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ref
13th March 2007, 03:45 AM
As we all know, Loose Change Final Cut is probably going to be released sometime this year. And we can't wait to debunk it. There has been some speculation concerning the contents of the new film.

As we already knew, it comes as no suprise that controlled demolition remains as one of the core themes of the new movie. This has now been confirmed by the Dylan Avery blog. He is looking for people to document a soon-to-come demolition, as well as have people collecting dust samples for Steven Jones.

http://loosechange911.blogspot.com/2007/03/anybody-in-las-vegas-wanna-help-us-out.html

In his blog he writes:

"As you may or may not be aware, the legendary Stardust Hotel in Las Vegas, Nevada will be imploded at approximately 2:30 AM on Tuesday, March 13th. The nearby main road is being closed off between midnight and 4:00 A.M, and all signs nail the demolition at 2:30 AM.

The more steady, descriptive shots the better. We'll do whatever we can to compensate those that shoot footage. If you happen to get some coverage of it, please let us know.

Call our secretary Kristy at 607-267-4456 and square things away with her if you can send us a copy. We'd be there ourselves but we have simply way too much to do.

Also, Professor Steven Jones is requesting dust samples. Anyone who can help us both out wiil be thanked extensively. In fact, anyone who helps us will get a special credit in the Final Cut."

Well, this prebunking is easy. Every aspect of controlled demolition has already been debunked. We can just dig our archives. He will use some new CD footage trying to prove the same old stuff again and again. He will have Steven Jones making some "expert" analysis on the dust and comparing his findings to his WTC dust analysis. We are also convinced he is using David Ray Griffin as his expert. DRG is easily debunked, just look at his debunked "magic" claims and his responses to questions in there threads:

http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=76554

http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=74082


We can also be quite sure he is using the new BBC footage reporting the WTC 7 collapse too early, debunked by the BBC itself:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/theeditors/2007/02/part_of_the_conspiracy.html


This, before the film is even released. I guess he can not bring many subjects, we have not already discussed. He has posted his new stuff in his website, testing ground with them, and they have been debunked. If he had found something totally exceptionally new, he couldn't have kept it inside this long just to release it in his film.

So I'm thinking we are having quite an easy job this time. We have all the material already at our disposal. We just have to dig it up when the time comes. Of course the hardcore deniers will not be paying attention this time either, but they are lost to their conspiracies anyway.

GlennB
13th March 2007, 04:01 AM
Aren't there already hundreds of films of CD's floating around?
What's special about The Stardust? Is it a steel-framed building or something?

p.s. I particularly love the sentence "We'll do whatever we can to compensate those that shoot footage". It sounds a bit like "Up to 50% off all prices" - it clearly includes the concept of zero. :D

Brainache
13th March 2007, 04:12 AM
I think they should abandon Dr Jones and use Dr Smith instead, call it "Loose Change:The Bubble Headed Booby Cut".

Comsat Angel
13th March 2007, 06:37 AM
Hang on, this film is supposed to be released in March and yet they're still pimping for externally-submitted footage? It was supposed to be 90% complete ages ago!

ref
13th March 2007, 06:42 AM
Hang on, this film is supposed to be released in March and yet they're still pimping for externally-submitted footage? It was supposed to be 90% complete ages ago!

Don't expect the film to be released anytime soon. If they are going to use this footage, deliver the dust to Jones and wait for his analysis to be complete, it will take a long long time before they are ready. Something tells me they have nothing.

There is also the possibility they will not include Jones and his dust stuff. But why would they not wait for that analysis. CD is their main topic in the film.

WildCat
13th March 2007, 07:42 AM
We're screwed if they interview any of the living hijackers... :rolleyes:

steve s
13th March 2007, 10:45 AM
Also, Professor Steven Jones is requesting dust samples

[Troofer logic mode]

The collapse of the twin towers created a lot of dust.

The CD of the Stardust will create a lot of dust.

Ergo, the collapse of the twin towers was a CD.

[/Troofer logic mode]

Don't expect the film to be released anytime soon. If they are going to use this footage, deliver the dust to Jones and wait for his analysis to be complete, it will take a long long time before they are ready. Something tells me they have nothing.

Personally, I think Do-Over is just stalling and hoping that people will eventually forget about his little vid that he has promised for so long. As some others have said in other threads he's between a rock and a hard place. He has to please the nutty troofers, but he's afraid of being seen as a nut himself which might jeopardize his chances of making it big in Hollywood.

Steve S

milesalpha
13th March 2007, 10:59 AM
Hang on, this film is supposed to be released in March and yet they're still pimping for externally-submitted footage? It was supposed to be 90% complete ages ago!

Well a film this big would be lost in March, you would want the greatest expose of all time to go head to head with Spiderman 3 at the very least.

I think I have just proven that my drugs are better than theirs.

P.S.

Last time I read anything from Avery on the film (this was a good 3 months ago though, he has gotten stale) he was intending to include his peculiar version of the Reichstag Fire as proof of a false op. I can't speak for his science but his history will be easy pickings.

P.P.S.

They claim millions in financing but cannot afford to send a guy with a camcorder to Vegas?

Regnad Kcin
13th March 2007, 11:59 AM
...In [Dylan Avery's] blog he writes:

...Call our secretary Kristy at 607-267-4456 and square things away with her if you can send us a copy."They" have a secretary?

We'd be there ourselves but we have simply way too much to do...Wii or Playstation?

...Something tells me they have nothing.Something told me they have nothing months and months ago.

jhunter1163
13th March 2007, 12:00 PM
Supposedly, he was going to LA to begin production of LC:FC a couple weeks ago.

Yes, I said BEGIN. It's on his blog. I'm at work so I can't link to it, so if someone wouldn't mind...

ref
13th March 2007, 12:05 PM
Something told me they have nothing months and months ago.


Well, they never had anything :) I meant they have nothing new, similarly meaningless to present.

ref
13th March 2007, 12:07 PM
Supposedly, he was going to LA to begin production of LC:FC a couple weeks ago.

Yes, I said BEGIN. It's on his blog. I'm at work so I can't link to it, so if someone wouldn't mind...


Here it is:

2nd of March 2007
http://loosechange911.blogspot.com/2007/03/on-road-again.html

"Ladies and gentlemen, this Sunday, we leave for Los Angeles to begin production on Loose Change: Final Cut.

That's all I can say. Stay tuned."

The Demon's Head
13th March 2007, 01:23 PM
Here it is:

2nd of March 2007
http://loosechange911.blogspot.com/2007/03/on-road-again.html

"Ladies and gentlemen, this Sunday, we leave for Los Angeles to begin production on Loose Change: Final Cut.

That's all I can say. Stay tuned."

I can't wait for this massive amount of lies that this final cut will contain. The suspense is terrible.

The Silver Shadow
13th March 2007, 02:19 PM
What happened to Cannes, Sundance and the other places? I guess the next big one we can expect from them is the Toronto Film Festival sometime this coming September. If they do come, I'll be there!

Blackwell
13th March 2007, 03:03 PM
So Jones wants dust samples? Do they give an address that I can send to? I've been meaning to get rid of all the little bunnies collecting under my sofa.