Anti-Evolution Comics: For your enjoyment.

[Nathyn]

I was looking for pictures of Darwin the Robot (http://www.me.vt.edu/Robocup/Site/Home.html) on Google Images and I found this image:

http://fundamentalbaptistlinks.com/Darwin_as_monkey.gif

I clicked it and it led me to a gold mine of fundie nutjob material.

http://fundamentalbaptistlinks.com/creation.htm

In the page, you'll see some images along the right. Click them to see the comics.

My personal favorite:

http://www.chick.com/tractimages1920/0055/0055_01.gif

(Click here for the full comic)
http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0055/0055_01.asp

http://www.chick.com/tractimages1920/0055/0055_02.gif

http://www.chick.com/tractimages1920/0055/0055_03.gif

http://www.chick.com/tractimages1920/0055/0055_04.gif

http://www.chick.com/tractimages1920/0055/0055_05.gif

http://www.chick.com/tractimages1920/0055/0055_06.gif

Anybody else thinks there's a hint of anti-semitism here? I mean, the teacher is obviously Jewish. And the "good little Christian boy" is blonde (you know, Aryan).

[Dilb]

Anybody else thinks there's a hint of anti-semitism here? I mean, the teacher is obviously Jewish. And the "good little Christian boy" is blonde (you know, Aryan).

I dunno, a hint is unusually subtle (http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0014/0014_01.asp) for Jack Chick.

[SimonD]

I would say yes

http://www.pzg.biz/poster_poison_mushroom.htm (http://www.pzg.biz/poster_poison_mushroom.htm)

The first time I came across this guy was when I used to play D&D

http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0046/0046_01.asp (http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0046/0046_01.asp)

[jimbob]

here's a parody:

http://www.facts4u.com/OffSite_Stored_Pages/wyd_files/wyd05.htm

http://www.weirdcrap.com/chick/archive.html

compare and contrast with the original (and "best?")

http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0055/0055_01.asp

[Ladewig]

I mean, the teacher is obviously Jewish.

He is? What specific characteristics indicate that?

[Beerina]

(Click here for the full comic)
http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0055/0055_01.asp

It's truly precious when he has the instructor "on the ropes", and then flatly asserts gluons are made up with no evidence (yet, which he leaves out conveniently.) So the instructor asks how, and with a straight face, the kid starts quoting the Bible on why the atom is held together.

Foosh! No clue whatsoever. But it's not about logic or intelligence. It's about deceiving the ignorant to extract money.

[Darth Rotor]

Anybody else thinks there's a hint of anti-semitism here? I mean, the teacher is obviously Jewish. And the "good little Christian boy" is blonde (you know, Aryan).
Way to go with that stereotype, Mr Godwin. :p

I tend to agree with your "nutjob" assessment in general, however.

DR

[Nathyn]

I would say yes

http://www.pzg.biz/poster_poison_mushroom.htm

The first time I came across this guy was when I used to play D&D

http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0046/0046_01.asp
ROFL.

Also, there's a comic I found that's even worse than the one you just posted:

http://www.chick.com/reading/comics/0114/0114_fourpages.asp?Pg=01

He is? What specific characteristics indicate that?
The stereotypical features.

It's truly precious when he has the instructor "on the ropes", and then flatly asserts gluons are made up with no evidence (yet, which he leaves out conveniently.) So the instructor asks how, and with a straight face, the kid starts quoting the Bible on why the atom is held together.

Foosh! No clue whatsoever. But it's not about logic or intelligence. It's about deceiving the ignorant to extract money.
This isn't about money. Jack Chick sincerely believes this garbage, I think.

Also, anybody know: Aside from the Constitutional issues, is it in fact ilegal to teach the Bible or creationism in schools?

[ponderingturtle]

Also, anybody know: Aside from the Constitutional issues, is it in fact ilegal to teach the Bible or creationism in schools?

This does not make much sense. The constitutional issues are why it is illegal to teach creationism in schools(well we will see if this continues with the conservative swing of the supreme court)

[Ladewig]

What specific characteristics indicate that the professor is Jewish?

The stereotypical features.


I do easily see how the male characters that Chick hates are often portrayed with a fiddle-shaped body (feminizing them and making them appear lazy), but I really don't see that as a Jewish stereotype. What specific stereotypical features appear in this cartoon that make the professor appear to be Jewish?

[SimonD]

I do easily see how the male characters that Chick hates are often portrayed with a fiddle-shaped body (feminizing them and making them appear lazy), but I really don't see that as a Jewish stereotype. What specific stereotypical features appear in this cartoon that make the professor appear to be Jewish?

Look at the last cartoon frame in the orignal post.

Now go to http://www.pzg.biz/poster_poison_mushroom.htm (http://www.pzg.biz/poster_poison_mushroom.htm)

Scroll a little way down. You will see a picture under the "Der Stürmer" heading a of cartoon figure who is meant to be a 'classic' (Nazis 'classic' that is) Jewish man.

It is a judgement call - but there does appear to be a lot of similarties

[SimonD]

ROFL.
Also, there's a comic I found that's even worse than the one you just posted:

http://www.chick.com/reading/comics/0114/0114_fourpages.asp?Pg=01


That was truly horrible.

[Fronzel]

Also, there's a comic I found that's even worse than the one you just posted:

http://www.chick.com/reading/comics/0114/0114_fourpages.asp?Pg=01



I thought Nazis and Commies were so bad because they didn't love the Baby Jesus. But now they say they are evil because they loved the wrong Baby Jesus? I wish they would make up their mind.

[jimbob]

He is? What specific characteristics indicate that?

I agree with Nathan

http://badscience.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=987&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=20

I know two trainee teachers - both are homosexual - one in canada one in england... Are the US concerned about gay teachers????
Same people as these, mostly:

(Stupid physicists. Don't they know that Jesons mediate the strong force?)
On the other hand the both houses went democrat (is this a good sign?)


Did anyone else think that the evil/stupid teacher character looked distinctly like the sematic cartoon figures in fascist propaganda. If anything that is the most unsavoury feature of the lot.

I presume these aren't the pro-israel neocons then...


I still diodn't get the point of the cartroon:

Paraphrase.

What holds the nucleus together?

Some force

There is no evidence for that.

Electrostatic replusion means the nucleus should fly apart.

Why doesn't it?

I don't know.

(What about, this is the evidence that there is another force stronger than electrostatic repulsion...)

What is their preferred solution? The noodly apendage? The love of god?


I could have you jailed for that (teaching creationalism)

Irony?

Scopes monkey trial?

Do you think these people would like to [url=http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a3_341.html]to legislate that Pi is three (REMOVED FOR REASONS OF TASTE)?


/endrant

Again,


I'm guessing you got a little hot under the collar when you saw that panel with the tall blonde-haired student towering over the arrogant, ignorant Jewish intellectual.

Well, I do know enough history to find it pretty unsavoury; do you think the student could sing "tomorrow belongs to me" in that scene in Caberet?

Jim

I'll stop cross-posting, but there was some quite relevant stuff on that thread...

Here (http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/1051/1051_01.asp) is a chick tract praising Kent Hovind...

Jim

[Ladewig]

Scroll a little way down. You will see a picture under the "Der Stürmer" heading a of cartoon figure who is meant to be a 'classic' (Nazis 'classic' that is) Jewish man.

From a purely artistic point of view, I find it interesting that the propagandaist made the feet very pointy and included little highlights on the shoes. That, combined with the spats, very much gives the impression of cloven hooves.

It is a judgement call - but there does appear to be a lot of similarties

I'll concede that it is a judgement call. Most cartoonists that use Jewish stereotypes include a large, hooked nose. Because I didn't see that in Chick's cartoon, I didn't think the professor was intentionally drawn to be Jewish. On the other hand, the blonde student standing taller than the professor does highlight the differences in the two.

[SimonD]

Here (http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/1051/1051_01.asp) is a chick tract praising Kent Hovind...
Jim

Jim - couldn't see any refernce to Kent in that link, however it was a fine bit of propaganda :)

I liked the part when Timmy prays 'so the devil won't get him' and 'if you believe in eveloution you are going to hell' :mad:

[jimbob]

Jim - couldn't see any refernce to Kent in that link, however it was a fine bit of propaganda :)

I liked the part when Timmy prays 'so the devil won't get him' and 'if you believe in eveloution you are going to hell' :mad:


It is in small print just below the 10th row of frames:

I found it from the following post:
Includes screenshot:

http://badscience.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=987&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=21

[Lynx2174]

Man, these things are hilarious and sad at the same time. I love the DnD one. It's surreal. What a crazy, anti-semetic guy.

COME HERE, NOW WE LEARN REAL MAGICK, QUICKLY, TO THE ENORMOUS PENTAGRAM. BRING YOUR OWN ROBE.

I don't know what it is about the art style, but I find it distasteful. Mabye it's just the word balloons. They look like they were erased and new funny text put in the place of the original text. It's probably the font.

Reminds me of the "machine code" meme.

[PixyMisa]

The first time I came across this guy was when I used to play D&D

http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0046/0046_01.asp (http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0046/0046_01.asp)

Hah, what a loon. Girls playing D&D. As if. :rolleyes:

[Fronzel]

Are the "6 basic concepts of evolution" real? Or is it just something creationists cooked up?



I was looking for pictures of Darwin the Robot (http://www.me.vt.edu/Robocup/Site/Home.html)



Do you read Servo? The Dec06, Jan07 and Feb07 had articles about him. I've got them electronic if you want.

[SimonD]

Hah, what a loon. Girls playing D&D. As if. :rolleyes:

Now that's funny :D

[UnrepentantSinner]

Are the "6 basic concepts of evolution" real? Or is it just something creationists cooked up?

No, that's specifically Hovind too, but it's made it's way into a lot of other Creationist claptrap. All the other areas are actually studied by Cosmology, Astrophysics and Biochemistry/Microbiology except the last one and even that's tenuous.

"Big Daddy" was written or revised with Hovind's input (you can see his influence in the "X man" list of fossils) and if you dig around Chick's website they even wrote a book on evolution together.

[jimbob]

No, that's specifically Hovind too, but it's made it's way into a lot of other Creationist claptrap. All the other areas are actually studied by Cosmology, Astrophysics and Biochemistry/Microbiology except the last one and even that's tenuous.

"Big Daddy" was written or revised with Hovind's input (you can see his influence in the "X man" list of fossils) and if you dig around Chick's website they even wrote a book on evolution together.


A Chick tract parody that doesn't just make fun.

It educates about evolution.

http://www.facts4u.com/OffSite_Stored_Pages/wyd_files/wyd.htm

This has almost has a scene-by-scene debunking fo the "original" including the six claims

Jim

[jimbob]

here's another from the onion:

http://www.theonion.com/content/node/39512

Evangelical Scientists Refute Gravity With New 'Intelligent Falling' Theory

[rastamonte]

I just wasted most of yesterday and this morning reading all these tracts.
Funny, scary, sad.

[Madalch]

I really love the bit about gluons.

Even a chemist like me knows that the nucleus is held together by the "strong force", which is hypothethised to be carried by gluons. Which isn't far off of Chick's accusations of "made-up particles".

But consider- something has to hold it together, which physicists have simply dubbed "the strong force" (which could just as easily have been dubbed "duct tape" or "God's velcro"). If Chick is right, and it's Christ holding the nuclei together (hold your laughter, just for a moment), then we have to ask the creationists why Christ isn't strong enough to hold together nuclei of more than a hundred protons.


Can Christ create a nucleus which is too big for Him to hold together as a stable atom? No, but we can.

[Gargoyle]

Can Christ create a nucleus which is too big for Him to hold together as a stable atom? No, but we can.

Well said! :clap:
Very useful if I run into any fundie with some basic scientific knowledge. Not very likely though...