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AtheistWorld.Com
22nd July 2003, 11:12 PM
Some questions...

When you speak of morals, what moral standard are your reoffering to?
By what moral standard do you judge what is moral and what is not, what should be or not?

In life, is it important to you to be an achiever? If so, what do you hope to accomplish in life?
Do you care about the world/civilization and its future? If yes, what are you doing to help?
If not, what is the purpose of your life?

Also, what is an achiever and do you envy achievers?

Max

Yahweh
22nd July 2003, 11:29 PM
Originally posted by AtheistWorld.Com
Some questions...

When you speak of morals, what moral standard are your reoffering to?
The universal moral standard that harming people, animals, the environment, etc. is immoral.

By what moral standard do you judge what is moral and what is not, what should be or not?
Unusually worded...

Its the same question as above, just with more words...

In life, is it important to you to be an achiever?
Ok, fine, what is an achiever...

I'll assume its someone who "achieves" in life I guess... yes, its important to be an achiever.

If so, what do you hope to accomplish in life?
I want to have a steady job that I enjoy, a very loving affectionate wife, a pretty house, money to burn, and I never want my fun to end... looks like I've accomplised everything so far...

Do you care about the world/civilization and its future? If yes, what are you doing to help?
Yes. I recycle, I plant things, I teach children. Children are our future. If I teach the Children well, we will have a bright future.

If not, what is the purpose of your life?
Your mistake is assuming there is a purpose. As far as I can think, the purpose of existance is to play a meaningful role in ones community to help further the community in intellectual and utopian developement.

Also, what is an achiever and do you envy achievers?
No, I dont envy achievers. There is no reason why I should envy another because he or she actively pursued and achieved success and fortune.

AtheistWorld.Com
22nd July 2003, 11:37 PM
Your mistake is assuming there is a purpose.

You are correct. If you have not given your life a purpose there isn't one...;)

Yahweh
23rd July 2003, 02:03 AM
Originally posted by AtheistWorld.Com


You are correct. If you have not given your life a purpose there isn't one...;)
Philosophically speaking, what the f*dge?

DialecticMaterialist
23rd July 2003, 02:24 AM
When you speak of morals, what moral standard are your reoffering to?
By what moral standard do you judge what is moral and what is not, what should be or not?

In life, is it important to you to be an achiever? If so, what do you hope to accomplish in life?
Do you care about the world/civilization and its future? If yes, what are you doing to help?
If not, what is the purpose of your life?

Also, what is an achiever and do you envy achievers?


1)Intrinsic values aka raw feeling.


2) I have many basic standards, like "don't murder", "don't cuss out old ladies", "don't piss on the seat."

3) An achiever? I guess. You mean achieve something...well you always do. Even drifters achive some stuff.

4) Not much. LOL. Maybe write a book no one will read, play a lot of games, maybe even talk to a girl.

5) Hell yeah. Actually that's a new one for four: See how things change in the future. It could be like stepping into a sci-fi story as a background nobody.


6) Spaming forums.

7) An achiever is someone that satisfies certain values, that means everyone is an achiever imo (but not all achievers are good or equal). Of course I don't envy them, my envy gets more specific. Its over things like money, charisma and power.

Samus
23rd July 2003, 06:17 AM
Originally posted by AtheistWorld.Com
When you speak of morals, what moral standard are your reoffering to? My own moral standard, developed with a combination of society's morals, those instilled in me by my parents and family, those I have learned over time, and those I've given thought to and decided are worthwhile morals. I also, of course, follow the basic morals necessary for civilized society (I don't murder or steal, for example).

My personal moral code might not match yours, and that's okay.

Originally posted by AtheistWorld.Com
By what moral standard do you judge what is moral and what is not, what should be or not? I think I just answered this, unless you're driving at something else. I judge things with my own moral standard.

Originally posted by AtheistWorld.Com
In life, is it important to you to be an achiever? If so, what do you hope to accomplish in life? Not necessarily. It's important for me to do a good job, if that means achievement, then so be it. One can live a worthwhile life without ever having great achievements. If my actions result in great things, then that's great. If not, well, that's fine too.

Originally posted by AtheistWorld.Com
Do you care about the world/civilization and its future? If yes, what are you doing to help? Not particularly. I don't want to destroy the future, but I don't consider my actions to have a worldly impact for the future.

Originally posted by AtheistWorld.Com
If not, what is the purpose of your life? When I find a single person that can objectively answer that question, I'll let you know. I have goals for my life, but its purpose is the same as all humans: to live then die, and hopefully raise offspring in the process to keep the species alive.

Originally posted by AtheistWorld.Com
Also, what is an achiever and do you envy achievers? An achiever is one whose actions impact many other people. A president of a nation is an achiever. I don't envy such people, because with great power comes great responsibility (apologies to Uncle Ben).

But of course, it is necessary to differentiate between personal achievements and achievements that affect others. When I got my college degree, for example, it didn't have an impact on society. However, for me personally, it was an achievement. A head of government implementing policy that has a positive impact on the citizens is both a personal achievement and one that impacts society as a whole.

One can achieve many great things for themselves, and still not have a lasting impact on society.

AtheistWorld.Com
23rd July 2003, 06:31 AM
Hmmm very interesting responses thus far.

In case you are wondering, I am doing some research on these subjects and that is why I posted this thread.

I will do a paper and let you all see it when it is done.

Max

hgc
23rd July 2003, 08:27 AM
Originally posted by AtheistWorld.Com
Hmmm very interesting responses thus far.

In case you are wondering, I am doing some research on these subjects and that is why I posted this thread.

I will do a paper and let you all see it when it is done.

Max Yes, send it right over. I have to blow my nose.