Crazy Canadian 2: Revenge Of Val

[~enigma~]

http://www.dailyamerican.com/articles/2007/03/31/news/sunday/news03.txt

[Arus808]

goes to show just how insane many people of hte truth movement are.
jeff hill is one of them, and hopefully, what he does comes and bites him back in the $$$#$

[defaultdotxbe]

Hill said he was sent to a doctor for psychological help. Doctors said he was “uptight” and “paranoid,” and they prescribed him “happy pills,” which he never took.

well we know at least one truther is off his meds

[T.A.M.]

gonna be nice to see this idiot do time. Try calling "Big Frank" in cell block B without his permission Jeff. I am sure he'll tell you the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.

What a lame piece of Shaite.

TAM:)

[A W Smith]

He said he doesn't know what it would take to get his job back and at present he is in the process of being put on disability

:dl:

[~enigma~]

gonna be nice to see this idiot do time. Try calling "Big Frank" in cell block B without his permission Jeff. I am sure he'll tell you the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.

What a lame piece of Shaite.

TAM:)
Shaite?? Don't you mean Shurite :)

[Unsecured Coins]

I am sure he'll tell you the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.

And Jeff WILL be saying So help me GOD during this ordeal.

[~enigma~]

:dl:
Don't know the law in Canada but here he would not be eligible for disablity due to his noncompliance with his prescribed meds. Social Security he could get because he is bats[rule8]t crazy.

[Alareth]

Should we take bets on how soon Killtown will begin ranting on this since it involves Val?

[LashL]

Should we take bets on how soon Killtown will begin ranting on this since it involves Val?

Oh, he has already posted about it and even taken credit for parts of the story, in a fashion.

Jeff is not a "blogger" since he doesn't have one. I bet they were thinking of me:

Loose With the Truth Forum post (http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=6605)

[Alareth]

Shure could be a useful asset to the Truth Movement... if he channeled all of that passion and rage into something legal and less creepish.


That is by far, the single most rational post I've ever seen him make.

[Gravy]

And the turth goes marching on.

Soon he became obsessed with discovering what he describes as “the turth” about Sept. 11. He said he was put on sick leave from his job at Dell Computers, where he took phone calls for technical assistance.

[~enigma~]

where he took phone calls for technical assistance.
If anybody here is familiar with some tech support, is it really surprising that this is what Jeff did?

[jaydeehess]

Don't know the law in Canada but here he would not be eligible for disablity due to his noncompliance with his prescribed meds. Social Security he could get because he is bats[rule8]t crazy.


It may not be a gov't insurance program that he is applying to. Certainly not Workman's Compensation which pays out only for injury that occured on the job.

Employment Insurance (Federal gov't) does provide for loss of income due to illness and psychiatric illness may be covered. He would have to send in weekly forms stating that he is under the care of a physician and unable to work. I don't know if there is a stipulation about taking prescribed meds.

[jaydeehess]

If anybody here is familiar with some tech support, is it really surprising that this is what Jeff did?

Personal true story
Caller: I had to move my computer and now the cable modem isn't working.
Me: Are the lights or some of the lights on the top of the modem flashing?
Caller: All the lights are off.
Me: Is the light furthest to the right as you are looking at it on?
Caller: No, that one is off as well.
Me: Could you make sure that the black cable in the back of the modem is securly seated please.
Caller: I plugged in the cable when I moved it to the new loaction but its a white cable.
Me: The white cable is the signal input. I am asking about the power cable that goes to the square black power cube plugged into your wall outlet or power bar.
Caller: Oh,,,, damn do I feel stupid. I'll call you back if there is a problem.


Does that answer your question enigma?

[Foolmewunz]

Hill said he was sent to a doctor for psychological help. Doctors said he was “uptight” and “paranoid,” and they prescribed him “happy pills,” which he never took.

@TAM

How many doctors make such PROFESSIONAL diagnoses? "Uh, yes, son, I can see here in my Big Book of Medicine on page 83 that you're what's described in the profession as, like, uptight, dude!"

As a medical professional, wouldn't you say that the proper diagnosis for Jeff would be: "bats**t crazy"? (I believe that's the proper term?)

:crazy:

[Arus808]

If anybody here is familiar with some tech support, is it really surprising that this is what Jeff did?

my question is; did any customer of Dell actually understand what JEFF stated...his accent and use of the english language is atrocious. Dell's India outsourced tech supports speak better than he does.

[~enigma~]

It may not be a gov't insurance program that he is applying to. Certainly not Workman's Compensation which pays out only for injury that occured on the job.

Employment Insurance (Federal gov't) does provide for loss of income due to illness and psychiatric illness may be covered. He would have to send in weekly forms stating that he is under the care of a physician and unable to work. I don't know if there is a stipulation about taking prescribed meds.
Yes...you must be compliant with your treatment. just going to an office isn't going to cut it.

[~enigma~]

Personal true story
Caller: I had to move my computer and now the cable modem isn't working.
Me: Are the lights or some of the lights on the top of the modem flashing?
Caller: All the lights are off.
Me: Is the light furthest to the right as you are looking at it on?
Caller: No, that one is off as well.
Me: Could you make sure that the black cable in the back of the modem is securly seated please.
Caller: I plugged in the cable when I moved it to the new loaction but its a white cable.
Me: The white cable is the signal input. I am asking about the power cable that goes to the square black power cube plugged into your wall outlet or power bar.
Caller: Oh,,,, damn do I feel stupid. I'll call you back if there is a problem.


Does that answer your question enigma?
Hehe...it answers the question for alot of people.

[Alareth]

Personal true story
Caller: I had to move my computer and now the cable modem isn't working.
Me: Are the lights or some of the lights on the top of the modem flashing?
Caller: All the lights are off.
Me: Is the light furthest to the right as you are looking at it on?
Caller: No, that one is off as well.
Me: Could you make sure that the black cable in the back of the modem is securly seated please.
Caller: I plugged in the cable when I moved it to the new loaction but its a white cable.
Me: The white cable is the signal input. I am asking about the power cable that goes to the square black power cube plugged into your wall outlet or power bar.
Caller: Oh,,,, damn do I feel stupid. I'll call you back if there is a problem.


Does that answer your question enigma?

I was a supervisor for a call center handing Sprint home phone repair.

[LashL]

It may not be a gov't insurance program that he is applying to. Certainly not Workman's Compensation which pays out only for injury that occured on the job.

Employment Insurance (Federal gov't) does provide for loss of income due to illness and psychiatric illness may be covered. He would have to send in weekly forms stating that he is under the care of a physician and unable to work. I don't know if there is a stipulation about taking prescribed meds.

It does not appear that Jeff is claiming under WSIB or EI. You are correct on both counts, that WSIB only pays out for injury that occurred on the job (or was exacerbated by the job), and that EI does cover psychiatric illness, but would require evidence that the job loss was related to a legitimate illness (which he has not, apparently, been able to establish) and would require ongoing evidence that he is unable to work in any capacity as a result of a legitimate illness.

Jeff says he's seeking "disability" but it is highly unlikely that he could make any legitimate claim for "disability" under the WSIB or EI regulations. More likely, he is referring to a claim under the auspices of the ODSP (Ontario Disability Support Program) but it is unlikely that he will qualify there either because being "uptight" and "paranoid" is unlikely to meet their criteria for "disability". There are lots of "uptight" and "paranoid" people in the workforce, after all, and being "uptight" and "paranoid" does not preclude one from working in some capacity to support himself.

His refusal to follow recommended treatment would be a factor, as well.

[carlvs]

gonna be nice to see this idiot do time. Try calling "Big Frank" in cell block B without his permission Jeff. I am sure he'll tell you the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.


Sorry to burst your bubble, but while it seems that you read this part:

In Pennsylvania, it is a felony offense to record telephone conversations without the consent of all parties that are involved in the conversation, said Lucy Dalglish, executive director of the Reporters Committee for Freedom of the Press...

you overlooked what followed:

But because Hill lives in Canada, it is unclear if he broke the law, Dalglish said.

“If he were to come to the state of Pennsylvania, they could probably try to get him,” she said. “I'm not sure that legally there's much that can be done to him, at least not done easily.”

[CptColumbo]

Caller: I accidently dropped my computer tower.
Tech Support: Did it fall faster than freefall speed?
Caller: I'm not sure what you mean.
Tech Support: Did it fall suspiciously fast?
Caller: What's "suspiciously fast?"
Tech Support: Is it wired with explosives?
Caller: What? No, I was just clumsy when I tried to move it.
Tech Support: Why can't you accept the truth of what happened?
Caller: ...Is there someone else there that I could talk to?
Tech Support: I'll transfer you to the Sheeple department.

[Dave Rogers]

Caller: I accidently dropped my computer tower.
Tech Support: Did it fall faster than freefall speed?
Caller: I'm not sure what you mean.
Tech Support: Did it fall suspiciously fast?
Caller: What's "suspiciously fast?"
Tech Support: Is it wired with explosives?
Caller: What? No, I was just clumsy when I tried to move it.
Tech Support: Why can't you accept the truth of what happened?
Caller: ...Is there someone else there that I could talk to?
Tech Support: I'll transfer you to the Sheeple department.

Nominated for a coffee-on-monitor award.

Dave

[tacodaemon]

Personal true story
Caller: I had to move my computer and now the cable modem isn't working.
Me: Are the lights or some of the lights on the top of the modem flashing?
Caller: All the lights are off.
Me: Is the light furthest to the right as you are looking at it on?
Caller: No, that one is off as well.
Me: Could you make sure that the black cable in the back of the modem is securly seated please.
Caller: I plugged in the cable when I moved it to the new loaction but its a white cable.
Me: The white cable is the signal input. I am asking about the power cable that goes to the square black power cube plugged into your wall outlet or power bar.
Caller: Oh,,,, damn do I feel stupid. I'll call you back if there is a problem.



It's a commonly held belief in the computer industry that the phone company puts some kind of word-scrambling device on the phone lines serving tech-support centers. No matter which end of the conversation you're on -- i.e., whether you're the customer or the tech-support person -- the person on the other end will always sound like a drooling moron due to this device.

[A W Smith]

Originally Posted by T.A.M. http://forums.randi.org/helloworld2/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?p=2481626#post2481626)
gonna be nice to see this idiot do time. Try calling "Big Frank" in cell block B without his permission Jeff. I am sure he'll tell you the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but while it seems that you read this part:


Quote:
In Pennsylvania, it is a felony offense to record telephone conversations without the consent of all parties that are involved in the conversation, said Lucy Dalglish, executive director of the Reporters Committee for Freedom of the Press...

you overlooked what followed:


Quote:
But because Hill lives in Canada, it is unclear if he broke the law, Dalglish said.

“If he were to come to the state of Pennsylvania, they could probably try to get him,” she said. “I'm not sure that legally there's much that can be done to him, at least not done easily.”


sorry to burst the bubble you blew from bursting T.A.M.s bubble but did you read thus?


wanna hear how stupid I am,

When I first found out about freemansons and stuff I went and smahed the masonic temple with rocks ! cause I got angry and mad and fired up as alex would say

That was my first lesson in how not to do activism, at the time I thought I was doing something right and its a long story, I whish I could tell you about my personal stuff without you guys thinking the wrong way !

But hey I might have to go to jail for that in 2 weeks but atleast I will be able to bring up 9/11 in the middle of court In front of everyone, I have a PRETTY NUTTY
plan and would love some advice for court from people, does anyone want to help me fine tune my strategy or did I just make myself look like a nut by telling you guys only half the story !!!!!!

[VespaGuy]

Personal true story
Caller: I had to move my computer and now the cable modem isn't working.
Me: Are the lights or some of the lights on the top of the modem flashing?
Caller: All the lights are off.
Me: Is the light furthest to the right as you are looking at it on?
Caller: No, that one is off as well.
Me: Could you make sure that the black cable in the back of the modem is securly seated please.
Caller: I plugged in the cable when I moved it to the new loaction but its a white cable.
Me: The white cable is the signal input. I am asking about the power cable that goes to the square black power cube plugged into your wall outlet or power bar.
Caller: Oh,,,, damn do I feel stupid. I'll call you back if there is a problem.


I don't want to stray off-topic, but I just have to add my favorite 'customer service' anecdote. I'll hide it in spoiler tags so as not to eat up the thread.


Many, many years ago in my late teens, while working in a swimming pool supply store, a customer approached me...

Customer: I just bought a sand filter for my pool last week. I hooked it up, and it isn't filtering anything.
Me: Ok, are you sure that it's running? Is there water coming out of the return?
Customer: Yeah, it's pumping just fine
Me: Hmm. Well, if it's brand new, it shouldn't have any damage, but you may want to check the plastic 'fingers' in the bottom of the tank to make sure they aren't cracked.
Customer: I took the whole thing apart yesterday. Nothing's cracked.
Me: Hmm. After you took it apart, you put new sand in and it's still not filtering?
Customer: Sand?

For those of you unfamiliar with pool filters, sand is the filtering medium in sand filters, hence the name. Without sand in the filter, you are basically just pumping the same water back into the swimming pool.

This guy made my day.

[T.A.M.]

@TAM

How many doctors make such PROFESSIONAL diagnoses? "Uh, yes, son, I can see here in my Big Book of Medicine on page 83 that you're what's described in the profession as, like, uptight, dude!"

As a medical professional, wouldn't you say that the proper diagnosis for Jeff would be: "bats**t crazy"? (I believe that's the proper term?)

:crazy:

I prefer "Completely F&*ked Up!" myself;)

Sorry to burst your bubble, but while it seems that you read this part:



you overlooked what followed:

Well it wasnt really a bubble, more of a "finally one of these idiots will get what they deserve", but alas, this will likely not be the case...can't see them having any route worth persuing to have him charged...unfortunate.

TAM:)

[A W Smith]

I prefer "Completely F&*ked Up!" myself;)



Well it wasnt really a bubble, more of a "finally one of these idiots will get what they deserve", but alas, this will likely not be the case...can't see them having any route worth persuing to have him charged...unfortunate.

TAM:)

If they just follow the trail of broken windows and rocks at Masonic and Jewish temples they will find Jeff.

[jaydeehess]

It's a commonly held belief in the computer industry that the phone company puts some kind of word-scrambling device on the phone lines serving tech-support centers. No matter which end of the conversation you're on -- i.e., whether you're the customer or the tech-support person -- the person on the other end will always sound like a drooling moron due to this device.


We used to have a tech service rep that would constantly use the condesending "riiiight....." as in
Caller: I'm not able to access my e-mail.
TSR: Riiight,,,, and do you have Norton anti-virus software
Caller: yes, I do
TSR: Riiiight,,, well you know that on some occassions Norton will change your e-mail settings?
Caller: No, I didn't know that.
TSR: Riiight,,,, ok now open your Outlook Express and ,,,,,,,,,,,,,

The same guy once told a customer who was having constant problems that he (the TSR) didn't make enough money to worry about helping the customer that much.

I used to work for Transport Canada and one evening , being the only tech on duty I had to track down a problem. When FSS selected a standby VHF transmitter the pilots complained of a whistle in the audio. New equipment had just been installed that week so I checked the wiring and found that the push-to-talk voltage was going to both the primary and standby transmitter if standby was selected thus both transmitters came on. To top it off one side of the balanced audio also went to the main transmitter. This is a big boo-boo.

Of course I have never pulled any such boners in my carreer:D I'm perfect:D

[jaydeehess]

I prefer "Completely F&*ked Up!" myself;)



Well it wasnt really a bubble, more of a "finally one of these idiots will get what they deserve", but alas, this will likely not be the case...can't see them having any route worth persuing to have him charged...unfortunate.

TAM:)

Not charged perhaps but IIRC the agreement you sign with your telco says you will not make harrassing calls. He could have his telephone cut off if there are enough complaints to Bell Canada. (I believe that Sault Saint Marie is Bell territory)