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dglas
19th April 2007, 09:50 AM
A Quick Word of Thanks

(1) Several years ago, I had surgery to remove a blockage of my urinary tract. What I thought was a minor annoyance turned out, according to the medical specialists, to be a real and immediate threat of catastrophic renal failure - a fatal conclusion. I was in surgery within 24 hours. The anesthesiologist was excellent. I suffered absolutely no pain during or after the surgery - the joys of explorations into conciousness states and chemical effects thereon. The problem was efficiently and effectively dealt with with such minor inconvenience I barely even thought of the profundity of what had just happened. It is easy to overlook the measures taken to protect me from infection, and the purposeful, coordinated actions of each professional who took part in the procedure.

(2) Within two more years, I developed pneumonia (caught it from the ex). It turned out the cause was bacterial. I was prescribed some anti-biotics and within two weeks, the pneumonia had cleared, and I was back in near perfect health again. The trauma of pneumonia in human history is a matter of record. Imagine; two weeks to deal with a condition that only a generation or two ago was a frequent killer. Today, we say "pneumonia" and it has as much emotional impact on us as saying "sniffles."

That's two times I owe my life to modern, science-based medicine.

Why post this information in religon and philosophy?

There was a time, and it was not nearly so long ago as many might think, that either of these two problems would have killed me and all that could have been offered to me would have been some kissing of beads, shaking of rattles, mutterings of incantations to aloof and uncaring supernatural forces and beings. People who called themselves "kind" would have tried to make me feel better about and accept dying in the name of some ridiculous fluff and nonsense.

Fortunately for me there were people before me who had the courage and insight to try to understand human medical problems and resolved to develop effective means to deal with them. They determined that they were going to slough off the kinds of thinking that condemned us to the whims of fate. Beads and rattles weren't working, obviously so, and feeling good about dying is a ridiculous and inhumane way of thinking, however soothing-appearing the noises made seemed to be. Humanity needed and deserved something better than surrender.

So, again. Why post this in religion and philosophy? The science that developed the knowledge base and procedures to save my life is a means (a method), but the decision to choose efficacy over helplessness is a philosophical choice.

Why post this at this time? There are those, and the JREF is currently infected with (at least) one of these, who would advocate moving back to beads and rattles, who advocate resigning to destiny and returning to being helplessly blown along on the winds of fate. These throwbacks to a darker, crueler, dismal time wield such things as prophesy and purely internal realms as weapons to try to convince us to surrender our efficacy. Their hatred of humanity has them gleefully anticipating the wholesale slaughter of all of humanity in the name of a catastrophically horrific ideal. It is a mindset we must always guard against, one that took us a very long time to overcome. It offers us nothing, even if there was any reason whatsoever to accept any of it as true.

Fortunately, we have another tool - a philosophical one - that can help protect us against superstition spreaders and dogmatic doomsayers. It is skepticism, that simple determination to eschew certainty and Truth, to always reserve acceptance as conditional and subject to change; to always provide that essential room for growth and development.

So, I offer this small post as thanks to the people who had the courage to move beyond helplessness. To those people who had the courage to look the fanatic in the eye and say their way was not good enough. To those who had the insight to cast off the shackles of stagnation and eternal capitulation and choose methods that empower us. To those who made the decision to look beyond the insides of their own minds to become more capable of forging a better future. To those who cared enough to decide a better tomorrow was more important than dead-end thinking. To those who didn't just, metaphorically, lie down and die, as some would have us do.

I owe my life at least twice over to efficacy-based thinking. To my last breath I will thank those who gave me more breath to thank them with.

TheAntiLuddite
19th April 2007, 09:57 AM
A Quick Word of Thanks

(1) Several years ago, I had surgery to remove a blockage of my urinary tract.
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I owe my life at least twice over to efficacy-based thinking. To my last breath I will thank those who gave me more breath to thank them with.

This almost brought a tear to my eye. Excellent, excellent post. Nominated.

Glen.Nogami
19th April 2007, 07:54 PM
This almost brought a tear to my eye. Excellent, excellent post. Nominated.

Bah, beat me to the nomination. Quite fantastic.

Nothing but yes-menning agreement from me.

Solus
19th April 2007, 08:07 PM
I've thought the same thing but you have articulated it in a way I could not. I owe a everything to medical science for my own mental health. It's not because of some fictitious deity that I'm doing better today; it's because of thousands of years of human technological advancement.

Great post!

dglas
19th April 2007, 11:39 PM
Thank you for the nomination (my first!) and your kind words.

I invite others to add their own stories to this thread. I have begun to think that the best counter to the endless drivel deployed by some others is our own testimonies on the power of efficacy-based thinking and how it has improved (or even saved) our lives.

MG1962
20th April 2007, 04:22 AM
Yeah I think the orginal post is fabulous, and needs to be said and reflected on more often. The attitudes he discusses be it either from a anthiest point of view or religious are abominations.

For athiests, the answer is simply - progress has value, sure we screw up occasionally, but by and large each generation has it a little better than the last

From a religious point view. Suprisingly the answer is not much different. We are taught we are made in the image of God, we are taught to use our God given gifts.

God gave us the ability to dream, to imagine better things, he also made us incredbly curious. Not just about medicine, but absolutely everything. He then gave us the mind to go on these adventures.

For someone to promote the idea of unwinding technology and science in the name of religion, is in reality an insult to God. It is also an insult to Gods plan for humanity. Sure there are some areas of research I have trepidation about, but the funny thing is, it always seems to work out.

Regardless of your view of the existence of God, these people need to be resisted, actively opposed. Finally shown the sheer hyporacy of their standpoint.

SimonD
20th April 2007, 05:56 PM
I lived and worked in a remote area of Australia. I was having some pains in my stomach. After about two days this pain became unbearable and at 3 in the morning I called the Ambulance. They told me that it would take over an hour to get there so I decided to drive my car. In about 20 minutes I was at the hospital and within 4 hours I was in the operating room getting my appendix out - it had burst.

If this had happened 40 years ago I'd be dead. Thanks to humans for creating the car and modern medicine No thanks to God who gave me an appendix and the bacteria that caused the problem (no, I'm not blaming God, just making a point)

On a sadder note, my mother died of breast cancer when I was younger. She would most likley have survived if she had developed cancer today. Amazing the discoveries we have achieved in the last 20 years alone