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pillory
8th August 2003, 11:55 AM
that's the question i will struggle rest of my life

Yahweh
8th August 2003, 11:58 AM
Drink alcohol, then you dont have to think about it.

komencanto
8th August 2003, 12:03 PM
What is your first language?
Note that in English (unlike romance langauges), the word "people" is singular, so you will need to say "Do people deserve to be hated", not does.

pillory
8th August 2003, 12:08 PM
look my threat hair splitters,i ha*e youu,do I

Sundog
8th August 2003, 12:10 PM
Originally posted by komencanto
What is your first language?
Note that in English (unlike romance langauges), the word "people" is singular, so you will need to say "Do people deserve to be hated", not does.

Komencanto:

Welcome, and you don't understand. Pillory is our poet laureate. Correcting his grammar will go over here like telling the Queen she has bad teeth.

Gradually you will discover that Pillory is perfect in his own way.

And, yes Pillory, people do deserve to be hated, all of us.

komencanto
8th August 2003, 12:26 PM
Ah, another like that crazy Korean guy who thought he was causing the tornados in America. Why does he write in that illiterate way?

Skeptical Greg
8th August 2003, 12:28 PM
Originally posted by komencanto
Ah, another like that crazy Korean guy who thought he was causing the tornados in America. Why does he write in that illiterate way?

If you have to ask...;)

Sundog
8th August 2003, 12:29 PM
Originally posted by komencanto
Ah, another like that crazy Korean guy who thought he was causing the tornados in America. Why does he write in that illiterate way?

As you surmise, I don't think English is his first language.

Pillory is neither crazy, stupid, nor illiterate. Pillory is Pillory.

GroundStrength
8th August 2003, 12:56 PM
Ah, another like that crazy Korean guy who thought he was causing the tornados in America. Why does he write in that illiterate way?

Nothing at all like that Agur. I read of pillory on the boards here several months before I read his post's.

Some things I have gathered...

pillory is not a troll

pillory is not stupid

pillory's writing style is not hard to understand (after a bit)

pillory is...

So in conclusion...

Lay of of pillory.

Lord Emsworth
8th August 2003, 01:07 PM
Originally posted by komencanto
What is your first language?
Note that in English (unlike romance langauges), the word "people" is singular, so you will need to say "Do people deserve to be hated", not does.

I could be mean and tell you that it's of course "Romance languages", but I wont. :p

Some people need grammar, orthography and suchlike, and some, like pillory, don't.

:wink:

Yahweh
8th August 2003, 01:38 PM
Originally posted by komencanto
Ah, another like that crazy Korean guy who thought he was causing the tornados in America. Why does he write in that illiterate way?
I doubt pillory is illiterate. I doubt pillory is korean. Pillory writes like that because he chooses to. Whether its an inside joke or not is irrelevant (although its quite funny to most of the people on the board).

The way are person talks does not reflect on their intelligence.

Besides, its just pillory's style, dont be a-hatin'. :p

Dragonrock
8th August 2003, 02:15 PM
Originally posted by komencanto
Ah, another like that crazy Korean guy who thought he was causing the tornados in America. Why does he write in that illiterate way?

pillory simply is pillory. His posts are hard to follow sometimes and people will poke good-natured jibes at him. But, I firmly believe that if anyone were to directly attack him then the entire forum would rise up and fall upon the transgressor with a force frightening to behold.

Melissa Johnson
8th August 2003, 02:16 PM
Originally posted by pillory
that's the question i will struggle rest of my life

Only the Belgians :D ;)

Dragonrock
8th August 2003, 02:19 PM
Speaking of pillory, are his english skills improving or are my pillory skills improving?

Melissa Johnson
8th August 2003, 02:30 PM
Originally posted by pillory
that's the question i will struggle rest of my life

Only the Belgians :D ;)

Sundog
8th August 2003, 02:32 PM
Originally posted by Melissa Johnson


Only the Belgians :D ;)

And Texans, apparently. :mad:

Tormac
8th August 2003, 06:18 PM
That is a beautiful question pillary.

It is certainly one that most moral systems have wrestled with for a long time.

I would say that there are many people that deserve to be hated, but the irony is that most of the ones who deserve hatred are not worthy of it.

Dancing David
9th August 2003, 09:11 AM
Vrey good , question, with very different answers.

yes some people deserve to be hated, but what is the effect on the person who does the hating.

hatred should be remembered as a protective mechanism but not engaged or encouraged.

Lord Emsworth
9th August 2003, 09:38 AM
A thought on hate:

Keep it personal

calladus
9th August 2003, 10:07 AM
Tormac said:
. . . most of the ones who deserve hatred are not worthy of it.

Dancing David said:
yes some people deserve to be hated, but what is the effect on the person who does the hating.

:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

THIS is why I have faith in humankind. Thanks guys!

gentlehorse
9th August 2003, 12:24 PM
Originally posted by komencanto
Ah, another like that crazy Korean guy who thought he was causing the tornados in America.

You may be jumping to conclusions here. Pillory, to my knowledge, has not claimed to have paranormal/meteorological powers. He may have some, for all I know, be he hasn't claimed as much.

Why does he write in that illiterate way?

Why does a robin sing?

Why do we exist?

Why do some folks ask if the Pope is a bear?

Why, indeed...

joyrex
10th August 2003, 04:11 AM
Why do people hate? I think it is a some kind of malfunctioning of the mind. The results are rarely constructive or beneficial in any way. If you truly hate someone in a 'psychotic' manner, it could lead to very immoral actions.

Now go meditate.

wollery
10th August 2003, 11:31 AM
Originally posted by komencanto
Note that in English (unlike romance langauges), the word "people" is singular, so you will need to say "Do people deserve to be hated", not does.

More to the point - if you're going to correct other peoples' grammar then please make sure that you do so correctly yourself. People is plural, not singular, if it were singular then does would in fact be correct, as in - "does Joe Bloggs deserve to be hated?"

:rolleyes:

gentlehorse
10th August 2003, 06:02 PM
Originally posted by wollery

"does Joe Bloggs deserve to be hated?"

:rolleyes:

Yes. Yes, he does.

ImpyTimpy
10th August 2003, 06:31 PM
Another one bites the dust...

Seriously though, like others have said, this is a pretty deep question. Then again , this is what I have come to expect from Pillory. His/hers writing style on the surface appears to indicate gibberish but when you actually read what he or she says you discover a quiet clever mind indeed.

Pillory is an excellent exercise in critical thinking - do not assume what you see is what is, look deeper. But I am getting distracted.

I'm guessing some people deserve to be hated on the bases of what they have done - paeodophiles or people who prey on innocent children, murders, rapists etc.

Others, do not. Hate is a fairly irrational feeling however, emotions are rarely rational :)

Originally posted by wollery


More to the point - if you're going to correct other peoples' grammar then please make sure that you do so correctly yourself. People is plural, not singular, if it were singular then does would in fact be correct, as in - "does Joe Bloggs deserve to be hated?"

:rolleyes:

joyrex
11th August 2003, 04:37 AM
Despite emotions being irrational, methods can be applied to find the source for them. Hate is a negative emotion, just like frustration, anger, depression. If one hates and expresses the feeling, it creates a vicious circle. With behaviour it is transmitted to others, such as young ones, who are especially exposed to emotional conditioning. This way people might learn that hate is 'natural' to humans. But I don't feel this to be so. What does hate produce - a wall between the subject and object? - which just makes it unfruitul. Surely some kind of (emotional) barriers could be broken as a positive aspect, but there are certainly alternative ways.

It has something to do with accepting things as they are - unless there is place for judgement.

Perhaps the only cure would be the end of Kali Yuga. I hope I was irrational enough. Some people are just born insane.

Zep
11th August 2003, 05:00 AM
I have the suspicion, completely unfounded mark you, that pillory is on assorted medications and libations that cause his linguistic skills to become questionable while at the same time causing his mind to run freely with interesting and arresting ideas. Or perhaps he could be just working in the dark without a lightbulb, physically and metaphorically. Hard to tell, really.

I do like the idea of using pillory's posts as ignitions for our thinking. It reminds me strongly of De Bono's methods for initiating radical thinking patterns - dissociation from straight-line patterns.

Perhaps we should ask him to paint for us also - that might be truly startling!

And what about the idea of a pillory dictionary for the newbies??

The Central Scrutinizer
11th August 2003, 10:07 PM
Originally posted by pillory
that's the question i will struggle rest of my life

I think it is wrong to haterize others.

The Central Scrutinizer
11th August 2003, 10:10 PM
Originally posted by Dragonrock
Speaking of pillory, are his english skills improving or are my pillory skills improving?

Yes

evildave
11th August 2003, 10:28 PM
(Maybe it's blood alcohol content that affects pillory's writing style.)

My take on the question is "not really".

We're trained all too thoroughly to look at people through a good/evil perspective.

Everything has to be a melodrama to our culture. Usually the truth is a tragedy.

I can deplore people's actions without hating them.

I can distrust people without hating them.

I can be seriously wronged by people without hating them. (A "cooling off" period is usually in order.)

I can be hated and not hate back.

It's not hard. Maybe it's my choice not to. Maybe I'm just not wired that way.


I have met people who openly hate. They're spooky. Like talking to someone who thinks there are roaches under their skin and watches over their shoulder a lot.

I have met people who don't forgive. Who even accumulate wrongs done to other people historically as additional wrongs not to forgive. These people disturb me in a different way. They hide their bugs better, and seek to pass them on.

UnrepentantSinner
11th August 2003, 10:47 PM
NO! Cannibalism is wrong. People never ever deserve to be ated. You're a sick man for suggesting such a thing pillory, and I hope you can suppress all your Dahmerish inclinations.

komencanto
12th August 2003, 03:59 AM
Originally posted by wollery


More to the point - if you're going to correct other peoples' grammar then please make sure that you do so correctly yourself. People is plural, not singular, if it were singular then does would in fact be correct, as in - "does Joe Bloggs deserve to be hated?"

:rolleyes:

Hehe, I noticed that after posting it, I was just waiting to see how long it would take for someone to pick up on it.
Really... I´m serious!