Actor Chuck Norris blames secular progressive agenda for V.T. shooting

[Ladewig]

From World Net Daily (http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=55333)


Though one can point to Cho's own psychotic behavior and our graphic slasher media as potential contributors to his deplorable murder spree, we must also hesitate to consider how we as a society are possibly contributing to the growth of these academic killing fields. I believe those who wield the baton of the secular progressive agenda bear significant responsibility for the escalation of school shootings. Even conservatives who refuse to speak when evil flourishes must acknowledge some culpability.

We teach our children they are nothing more than glorified apes, yet we don't expect them to act like monkeys.

[snip]

Though I respect the Buddhist, Muslim and Jew who shared at the VTU convocation, our country needs to return and call out to the God of our founders, Jesus Christ.


I wish I could see it, but I cannot. How will America returning to Jesus Christ reduce the number or the effects of mentally-disturbed people who act violently?

[boooeee]

Sounds like somebody wants a roundhouse kick to the face.

[RandFan]

Yeah, when I think of intellectual my mind springs to Chuck Norris.

[joobie]

i blame chuck norris for the amount of stupid email forwards about chuck norris i seem to get.

[corplinx]

Chuck Norris is a Christian and believes Jesus is the answer. Nothing to see here.

[Kopji]

humm,

Chuck's point seems to be that science and reason are creating more psychotics than ever before. The solution to this problem is to return to a more enlightened age when seeing visions and hearing voices telling us who to kill were deemed normal, the hallmark of holy men and women.

And what precisely does "we must hesitate to consider" mean?

Primitive faith and belief like Chuck Inc. gives criminal insanity a happy and sheltered home to fester and thrive instead of being treated or recognized for what it is. He needs look no farther than his mirror to find both the cause and solution.

[corplinx]

humm,

Chuck's point seems to be that science and reason are creating more psychotics than ever before. The solution to this problem is to return to a more enlightened age when seeing visions and hearing voices telling us who to kill were deemed normal, the hallmark of holy men and women.

And what precisely does "we must hesitate to consider" mean?

Primitive faith and belief like Chuck Inc. gives criminal insanity a happy and sheltered home to fester and thrive instead of being treated or recognized for what it is. He needs look no farther than his mirror to find both the cause and solution.

You're over analyzing a karate guy's take on the shootings?

[RandFan]

Besides, every Christian knows that it is the violence in movies that is the cause for things like the V.T. Shooting.

http://www.exhibit5a.com/images/blog/Chuck.jpg

[Kopji]

You're over analyzing a karate guy's take on the shootings?

Sigh, I know, he's so darn deep:

...If we are ever to restore civility in our land and our schools, we must turn back the clocks to a time when such shocking crimes didn't even exist – when we valued life and respected one another much more then we do today.

It's not everyday that I run into someone who has the Answer to my problems and is not afraid to proclaim it from the rooftops.
Just whip back that clock to... (when was that again?)

...I hope and pray, in due time, we personally can win the battle for our minds and hearts, like the Amish did when shooters came into their schools months ago and took their own.

This one bothers me more than the gibberish. He distorted facts in favor of some good old demagoguery. There were never shooters who went into Amish schools, this is not evidence of a cultural war going on, (except in his mind). But it sounds better that way.

His total argument is founded on his mistaken belief that if criminally insane people feared God more, all this killing would stop. His argument is a form of insanity itself; it is non-sense and by it he encourages us to think and act in the same defective way.

I think he is worth a few words in rebuttal, even if he is a silly karate actor.

[The Fool]

as soon as I saw "from World Net daily" and "Chuck Norris" I new this was going to be a ground breaking revelation likely to influence political thought for generations.







not.......

[slingblade]

Pah. A textbook case of White Suburban Gun Guilt.



That's a joke, but honestly.....I can't figure out who I'm trying to poke fun at, exactly....

[SezMe]

I was initially with The Fool. When I saw a World Net Daily link, I dismissed the whole thing...but then realized that was not fair. The message should be judged by its content, not by the messenger. So I went to the link.

Norris said:
Though I respect the Buddhist, Muslim and Jew who shared at the VTU convocation, our country needs to return and call out to the God of our founders, Jesus Christ.

IOW, Norris is an unenlightened fool who has no understanding of "our founders" nor of the principles upon this nation was founded.

[timhau]

My first thought when I read the thread title:
"Actor Chuck Norris? Someone's being generous here."

[Didaktylos]

My first thought when I read the thread title:
"Actor Chuck Norris? Someone's being generous here."


Hey Hey - just wait till "I was Chuck Norris' Acting Double - A Film by Alan Smithee" comes out.

[Cleon]

Once again, the Liberal Hollywood Elite(tm) rears its ugly head.

[Cain]

All I know is that Chuck Norris is 67 years old and he can still kick all your asses. Total Gym is for real.

[Bob Klase]

This one bothers me more than the gibberish. He distorted facts in favor of some good old demagoguery. There were never shooters who went into Amish schools


Not that it makes Chuck right about anything else, but there was the guy that went into the Amish school last October and shot 5 girls and himself. I think the term 'shooter' could apply to him.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amish_school_shooting

[Mephisto]

Hey Hey - just wait till "I was Chuck Norris' Acting Double - A Film by Alan Smithee" comes out.

. . . or The Virginia Tech Massacre - If I had done it, oh wait, that's OJ. ;)

[brodski]

Not that it makes Chuck right about anything else, but there was the guy that went into the Amish school last October and shot 5 girls and himself. I think the term 'shooter' could apply to him.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amish_school_shooting

But, unless there was more than one of him I think that Kopji’s point stands (note the bolded “s”es )

[Upchurch]

Besides, every Christian knows that it is the violence in movies that is the cause for things like the V.T. Shooting.

http://www.exhibit5a.com/images/blog/Chuck.jpg
This is absolutely the first thing that sprung to mind. Whatta maroon.

[rikzilla]

Cho was a psychopath, which of course means that his act was based solely on his interaction with his self-created fantasy world. In short it was about as randomly senseless as anything can possibly be. This leaves a blank slate upon which to draw one's own conclusions about Cho's actions. The "great unwashed" abhor a vacuum, and it's neediest members will attempt to fill said vacuum. But any attempt to make sense of something completely senseless and random will itself be nonsense.

This is the stuff, the building block, of religion and woo. It is the attempt to imagine a cause and thus to empower the general public by proposing a simplistic and moralistic solution. All of this is couched in the terms of the favored popular religion and is thus meant to promote the morals of this religion.

We can't experience the fantasy world of the psychotic, but that doesn't stop other people from attempting to push their own agenda by overlaying the issue with their own brand of nonsense.

The one striking aspect of this massacre and the subsequent popular attempts to understand it is the complete abandonment of reason by both the perp and the public.

-z

[Beerina]

I wish I could see it, but I cannot. How will America returning to Jesus Christ reduce the number or the effects of mentally-disturbed people who act violently?

Because Jesus is an @$$ who only heals people if they believe, without proof, that He will hold off Himself from torturing you after you die?

This is smart and loving on a scale far greater than humans, by the way.


we must also hesitate to consider how we as a society are possibly contributing to the growth of these academic killing fields

Skeptics must keep pounding the bush (yeah, :confused: shut it) as to whether there is even a statistically noticeable problem here. You'll notice they're all saying it's the worst school shooting. They don't say it's the worst school killing, because that happened a hundred years ago when a loner blew up a gradeschool.

[Unabogie]

Cho was a psychopath, which of course means that his act was based solely on his interaction with his self-created fantasy world. In short it was about as randomly senseless as anything can possibly be. This leaves a blank slate upon which to draw one's own conclusions about Cho's actions. The "great unwashed" abhor a vacuum, and it's neediest members will attempt to fill said vacuum. But any attempt to make sense of something completely senseless and random will itself be nonsense.

This is the stuff, the building block, of religion and woo. It is the attempt to imagine a cause and thus to empower the general public by proposing a simplistic and moralistic solution. All of this is couched in the terms of the favored popular religion and is thus meant to promote the morals of this religion.

We can't experience the fantasy world of the psychotic, but that doesn't stop other people from attempting to push their own agenda by overlaying the issue with their own brand of nonsense.

The one striking aspect of this massacre and the subsequent popular attempts to understand it is the complete abandonment of reason by both the perp and the public.

-z

Hence the legal truism "hard cases make bad law".

Sometimes, bad stuff just happens and there's nothing you can do to stop it or even remedy the situation after the fact. And often, doing anything at all makes the problem worse. Taking the violence of one psychotic kid and using that to turn us into a Christian Taliban state seems to me to be a perfect example of that.

[thaiboxerken]

I had no idea Chuck Norris is a creationist. What a monkey!

[KoihimeNakamura]

Remind me of something posted on the library bulltin board that is summarized as Atheists to blame for VT - since they don't understand good and evil.

Some people will just make political hay of anything, because they have no shame.

[Tony]

Since when do monkeys go around shooting people?

[aerosolben]

Cho was a psychopath, which of course means that his act was based solely on his interaction with his self-created fantasy world. In short it was about as randomly senseless as anything can possibly be. This leaves a blank slate upon which to draw one's own conclusions about Cho's actions. The "great unwashed" abhor a vacuum, and it's neediest members will attempt to fill said vacuum. But any attempt to make sense of something completely senseless and random will itself be nonsense.

This is the stuff, the building block, of religion and woo. It is the attempt to imagine a cause and thus to empower the general public by proposing a simplistic and moralistic solution. All of this is couched in the terms of the favored popular religion and is thus meant to promote the morals of this religion.

We can't experience the fantasy world of the psychotic, but that doesn't stop other people from attempting to push their own agenda by overlaying the issue with their own brand of nonsense.

The one striking aspect of this massacre and the subsequent popular attempts to understand it is the complete abandonment of reason by both the perp and the public.

-z
Hey, a post by rikzilla in Politics that I completely agree with this. My head asplode. :D

[Pardalis]

Here's a fact: Chuck Norris is an idiot.

[Ohmer]

Skeptics must keep pounding the bush (yeah, :confused: shut it) as to whether there is even a statistically noticeable problem here. You'll notice they're all saying it's the worst school shooting. They don't say it's the worst school killing, because that happened a hundred years ago when a loner blew up a gradeschool.

Good point, but your details are a bit off:
Bath School bombing (http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~bauerle/disaster.htm)
It was 80 years ago and it was a demented school board member upset about losing his farm and paying his taxes. Andrew Kehoe killed his wife, blew up his own house, set off an explosion at the school, then suicide car bombed the school.

This is a good counterpoint for those who pine for the "good old days" when this sort of thing didn't happen. 45 were killed. Most were children. Murderous, suicidal psychopaths are nothing new. We must learn to better recognize them before they strike.

OTOH, this was two years after the Scopes Monkey trial. Maybe Chuck is right :rolleyes: