911blogger Hits New Low

[pomeroo]

In case you thought that the great minds at 911blogger.com couldn't possibly sink any lower, here's their latest revelation. It is, unusual for a fantasist blog, a concrete claim that can be checked.

Yes, yes, of course I understand that American Airlines is lying.

(From 911blogger.com):

In other news:

AA77 was not equipped with inflight-phones
We all know about the impossibility of phone calls from supposedly hijacked aircraft on 911:
David Ray Griffin tells us about Rowland Morgans book revelations that the Olson Airfone (Seatback phones) call could not have happened because AA77 was not equipped with inflight-phones.

[~enigma~]

In case you thought that the great minds at 911blogger.com couldn't possibly sink any lower, here's their latest revelation. It is, unusual for a fantasist blog, a concrete claim that can be checked.

Yes, yes, of course I understand that American Airlines is lying.

(From 911blogger.com):

In other news:

AA77 was not equipped with inflight-phones
We all know about the impossibility of phone calls from supposedly hijacked aircraft on 911:
David Ray Griffin tells us about Rowland Morgans book revelations that the Olson Airfone (Seatback phones) call could not have happened because AA77 was not equipped with inflight-phones.Are they actually claiming American Airlines didn't have air phones or do they mean Azerbaijan Air which probably never had airphones?

[T.A.M.]

Now, for any of you Fence-Sitters, or Undecideds, just read that again...

The truth movement are now claiming that American Airlines Flight 77 did not have Airfones.

And this is being held up as credible by the movements gradnd priest, Pope David Ray Griffin.

TAM:):jaw-dropp

[Civilized Worm]

Hey who are you do doubt Griffin? He's written far more books than you!

[T.A.M.]

how do you know???

;)

TAM

[~enigma~]

Now, for any of you Fence-Sitters, or Undecideds, just read that again...

The truth movement are now claiming that American Airlines Flight 77 did not have Airfones.

And this is being held up as credible by the movements gradnd priest, Pope David Ray Griffin.

TAM:):jaw-dropp
Shouldn't the fact that their "leader" is a theologian say alot...

[pomeroo]

Here is a link to the discussion:

http://www.911blogger.com/node/8129#comment (http://www.911blogger.com/node/8129#comment)

One of the most notorious liars, a fraud named "Real Truther" or "Verdadero Verdadero" (ya gotta love the chutzpah of these creeps), is participating. Apathoid destroyed this guy's falsehoods concerning the possibility of remote-controlled flight for Boeing commercial airliners. Another villain is posting ancient slanders about Barbara Olson.

[The_Fire]

Hey who are you do doubt Griffin? He's written far more books than you!

And Icke have probably written more books than Griffin......Don't make me trust his claim of the Queen of Britain being a lizard though........

[bje]

Now, for any of you Fence-Sitters, or Undecideds, just read that again...

The truth movement are now claiming that American Airlines Flight 77 did not have Airfones.TAM:):jaw-dropp

So they're claiming that American Airlines Flight 77 actually existed?

[~enigma~]

Here is a link to the discussion:

http://www.911blogger.com/node/8129#comment (http://www.911blogger.com/node/8129#comment)

One of the most notorious liars, a fraud named "Real Truther" or "Verdadero Verdadero" (ya gotta love the chutzpah of these creeps), is participating. Apathoid destroyed this guy's falsehoods concerning the possibility of remote-controlled flight for Boeing commercial airliners. Another villain is posting ancient slanders about Barbara Olson.
Mind if I post an acronym....OMFG :)

[slugmancs]

Is LCFC be released in many theatres or just in one slightly north of NYC known as the LC compound? Will it be available on the internet as well as in theatres or not? If it isn't, it broves the LC guys ARE purely in it for the money (this audience that obeys their every wish will gladly pay 10 bucks). Personally, I will buy a ticket to something else then "sneak" in to LC.

[~enigma~]

Is LCFC be released in many theatres or just in one slightly north of NYC known as the LC compound? Will it be available on the internet as well as in theatres or not? If it isn't, it broves the LC guys ARE purely in it for the money (this audience that obeys their every wish will gladly pay 10 bucks). Personally, I will buy a ticket to something else then "sneak" in to LC.
Airphones - LC:FC...nice segue...ask Dylan. He says LC:FC will be screened in NYC on 9/11/07 so tell me...how does one get from airphones and DRG onto LC:FC? Now going back to the airphone story...I can't comment since it really is too silly to give any credence.

[The Demon's Head]

Hey who are you do doubt Griffin? He's written far more books than you!

Doesn't matter how many books one writes if they are always wrong.

[slugmancs]

Airphones - LC:FC...nice segue...ask Dylan. He says LC:FC will be screened in NYC on 9/11/07 so tell me...how does one get from airphones and DRG onto LC:FC? Now going back to the airphone story...I can't comment since it really is too silly to give any credence.

The topic on 9/11blogger is about the release of LCFC and links to IMDB for it, pretty nutty on that IMDB board as well. What can be said about the denial of airfones other than they are nuts if they do?

[~enigma~]

The topic on 9/11blogger is about the release of LCFC and links to IMDB for it, pretty nutty on that IMDB board as well. What can be said about the denial of airfones other than they are nuts if they do?
I still think that even the idea that AA77 had no airphones is worthy of a huge belly laugh.

[T.A.M.]

Once again, as much as I hate to admit it, I think there has to be some disinfo agents infiltrating their movement, and DRG and this new kook, Rowland Morgan are two prime examples. I mean noone is as blatently STUPID as these two in real life...right?

TAM:)

[pomeroo]

Once again, as much as I hate to admit it, I think there has to be some disinfo agents infiltrating their movement, and DRG and this new kook, Rowland Morgan are two prime examples. I mean noone is as blatently STUPID as these two in real life...right?

TAM:)



But, TAM, notice how the "respectable" Griffin cites the far-out Morgan. They have no ability whatever to separate the idiotic from the merely implausible.

[~enigma~]

Once again, as much as I hate to admit it, I think there has to be some disinfo agents infiltrating their movement, and DRG and this new kook, Rowland Morgan are two prime examples. I mean noone is as blatently STUPID as these two in real life...right?

TAM:)
Dr TAM...can smart people believe stupid things?

[apathoid]

Tr00fer research never ceases to amaze me. It took me 2 minutes to find this:

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0020665/L/

on edit:

Here is another:

http://web01.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=55280

...and another

http://web01.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=35569

[Dog Town]

Once again, as much as I hate to admit it, I think there has to be some disinfo agents infiltrating their movement, and DRG and this new kook, Rowland Morgan are two prime examples. I mean noone is as blatently STUPID as these two in real life...right?

TAM:)

Have you seen Judy Wood in action? Disinfo, I wish that was what they are.
It's all insane, as far as I can tell. I doubt it's disinfo though.
Who is that dumb, to ruin a rep, for this tripe? Don't see it. Maybe the pot of gold, is bigger than I thought, though.


My .02

[~enigma~]

Tr00fer research never ceases to amaze me. It took me 2 minutes to find this:

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0020665/L/

on edit:

Here is another:

http://web01.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=55280

...and another

http://web01.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=35569

More than anybody here I think you should be well aware that 9/11 PCTs and airlines do not mix...sort of like oil and water :)

[T.A.M.]

I really need to get a sarcasm smilie up here, as I occasionally am so subtle that what I say is misconstrued as serious.

Of course I do not believe in Disinfo agents, but my god if there ever was an argument for them, these guys are it...lol

TAM:)

[Dog Town]

I really need to get a sarcasm smilie up here, as I occasionally am so subtle that what I say is misconstrued as serious.

Of course I do not believe in Disinfo agents, but my god if there ever was an argument for them, these guys are it...lol

TAM:)

No, I thought you were being sarcastic. The JW question was meant as, she was another perfect fit. The rest was more or less questioning the dis believers. I was the unclear one. I see how that interpretation could appear.

[Arkan_Wolfshade]

Mind if I post an acronym....OMFG :)
Okay, this calls for more than OMFG, or even OMFGWTFBBQ?!

ROFLCOPTER and LMAOPlanes (http://www.rofl.name/lolcity/)!

[Unsecured Coins]

Dear Troofers.

There are always going to be 2 sides to every story, what happened, and what you think happened. In the case of the events of September 11th, you either believe it was a terrorist attack, or you believe the government is behind it. And I don't have a problem with that.

To believe the official version, you are of the understanding that 19 men with a hard on for killing everything resembling America, led by a multi-millionaire who has a bigger hard on for killing everything resembling America, after years of planning, hijacked planes and crashed them into buildings. And I don't have a problem with that.

To believe otherwise, however, you voyage into the realm where anything is possible and could have happened that day: pods, missiles, preplanted explosives, laser beams, nukes, computer generated imagery, remote controlled planes, the NWO, Nazis, you name it, there's probably a theory on it. And I don't have a problem with that, either.

But on a planet with just over 6 billion people on it, it would be only a matter of time before 2 people with 2 totally different ways of thinking were bound to run into each other, be it in person or on the interweb. I know alot of people who don't believe in the same things I do. Those same people believe in alot of things I don't, and that's ok, because I'm not the type of guy to knock anyone for anything they believe. However, I'm afraid I cannot say the same for supposed 9/11 truth seekers, and I have a problem with that.

See, in the great "WTF HAPPENED" debate that's been ongoing since the first window of the WTC was shattered by a commercial jet liner, both armies have come to the battlefield to defend what they say happened. Both sides say they have the facts, the stone cold truth, the evidence, the BE ALL END ALL argument winner. So how do you tell the sides apart if you don't have a scorecard? Easy, you ask for evidence. A skeptic of the 9/11 conspiracy will gladly and quickly respond with heaping amounts of facts that back up their story, eye witness reports, engineers, data sheets, pictures, video... ask a 9/11 Truther to supply evidence, and you might get a picture, a video here and there, but nothing solid. You might also get an e-mail from a faceless EMT who claims he was present during a 20 second countdown. Eventually, you will get a video called Loose Change thrown at you, a video so filled with truth they had to correct it 3 times. Press harder for actually evidence, and the pictures become speculation, the claims become more ludicrous, a truther will start to stammer, call names, accuse you of being a government plant, and avoid questions. Press harder, and the truther will ignore you, as seen in a video on my youtube account concerning Dylan Avery's behavior that suddenly went to a discussion about the WTC. 2 members of the 9/11 movement at the same time confronted me with claims of evidence, proof of an inside job, and called me childish names. When asked for evidence to support their claims, both of them stop replying to me. I'm a patient man, but after 2 days, I'm starting to think they ran from me.

And this makes us SAD, Truthers!! Us skeptics want to know WHY you think what you think, what made you come to this conclusion, what can you PROVE to us to makes it all clear to you? The very least you have shown me is that you have an extended vocabulary and a knack for ad libbing your way through a debate. If you want anyone to take you seriously, start acting serious. And if you cannot back up a claim, truthers, may I suggest that you do NOT change the story to something else you cannot prove?

Respectfully,
Unsecured Coins.

[~enigma~]

Okay, this calls for more than OMFG, or even OMFGWTFBBQ?!

ROFLCOPTER and LMAOPlanes (http://www.rofl.name/lolcity/)!
:D

[Gravy]

9/11 Commission Report, page 9:
At 9:12, Renee May called her mother, Nancy May, in Las Vegas. She said her flight was being hijacked by six individuals who had moved them to the rear of the plane. She asked her mother to alert American Airlines. Nancy May and her husband promptly did so.(56)

At some point between 9:16 and 9:26, Barbara Olson called her husband, Ted Olson, the solicitor general of the United States. She reported that the flight had been hijacked, and the hijackers had knives and box cutters. She further indicated that the hijackers were not aware of her phone call, and that they had put all the passengers in the back of the plane. About a minute into the conversation, the call was cut off. Solicitor General Olson tried unsuccessfully to reach Attorney General John Ashcroft.(57)

Shortly after the first call, Barbara Olson reached her husband again. She reported that the pilot had announced that the flight had been hijacked, and she asked her husband what she should tell the captain to do. Ted Olson asked for her location and she replied that the aircraft was then flying over houses. Another passenger told her they were traveling northeast. The Solicitor General then informed his wife of the two previous hijackings and crashes. She did not display signs of panic and did not indicate any awareness of an impending crash. At that point, the second call was cut off.(58)

9/11 Commission Report, page 455:
56. FBI report, "American Airlines Airphone Usage," Sept. 20, 2001; FBI report of investigation, interview of Ronald and Nancy May, Sept. 12, 2001.

57.The records available for the phone calls from American 77 do not allow for a determination of which of four "connected calls to unknown numbers" represent the two between Barbara and Ted Olson, although the FBI and DOJ believe that all four represent communications between Barbara Olson and her husband's office (all family members of the Flight 77 passengers and crew were canvassed to see if they had received any phone calls from the hijacked flight, and only Renee May's parents and Ted Olson indicated that they had received such calls).The four calls were at 9:15:34 for 1 minute, 42 seconds; 9:20:15 for 4 minutes, 34 seconds; 9:25:48 for 2 minutes, 34 seconds; and 9:30:56 for 4 minutes, 20 seconds. FBI report, "American Airlines Airphone Usage," Sept. 20, 2001; FBI report of investigation, interview of Theodore Olson, Sept. 11, 2001; FBI report of investigation, interview of Helen Voss, Sept. 14, 2001;AAL response to the Commission's supplemental document request, Jan. 20, 2004.

58. FBI report, "American Airlines Airphone Usage," Sept. 20, 2001; FBI report of investigation, interview of Theodore Olson, Sept. 11, 2001.

[orphia nay]

Okay, this calls for more than OMFG, or even OMFGWTFBBQ?!

ROFLCOPTER and LMAOPlanes (http://www.rofl.name/lolcity/)!

:newlol :D


Dear Troofers.

...

Nice post. Two thumbs up.

[PhantomWolf]

Tr00fer research never ceases to amaze me. It took me 2 minutes to find this:

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0020665/L/

on edit:

Here is another:

http://web01.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=55280

...and another

http://web01.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=35569

[CT hat]But two of those photos are from after 2001 (both 2003) and the other doesn't say it was N644AA so that doesn't prove that N644AA had airphones. :P[/CT hat]