What is the best case for NDE?

[CFLarsen]

We've heard a few anecdotes about people having NDEs, but which is - by the "experts" in the field - actually the best argument that NDEs are paranormal?

Steve Grenard has thrown out a claim of "100s of other documented cases".

Which one is the best? The five best?

[Yahweh]

What is the best case for NDE?
A fantastic anecdote from this guy I know.

[EdipisReks]

this glowing guy once said something to me. then i realized i was stoned.

[reprise]

Can you refine the question. Are you asking which study into NDEs is the "best" in terms of scientific method, or which individual cases offer the best evidence in support of consciousness surviving death, or something else entirely?

[CFLarsen]

Originally posted by reprise
Can you refine the question. Are you asking which study into NDEs is the "best" in terms of scientific method, or which individual cases offer the best evidence in support of consciousness surviving death, or something else entirely?

Of course, my bad.

Which individual cases offer the best scienctific evidence in support of consciousness surviving death?

Better? :)

[Thanz]

Originally posted by CFLarsen


Of course, my bad.

Which individual cases offer the best scienctific evidence in support of consciousness surviving death?

Better? :)
The movie "Flatliners" starring Kiefer Sutherland, Oliver Platt and (I think) Julia Roberts. It was all true, man.

[Skeptical Greg]

Originally posted by CFLarsen


Of course, my bad.

Which individual cases offer the best scienctific evidence in support of consciousness surviving death?

Better? :)

How can an ' NDE ' offer evidence in support of consciousness surviving death?


I think I understand your point, I hope you understand mine...

[CFLarsen]

Diogenes,

I do. I am merely asking... :)

[Segnosaur]

I remember a poster here once mentioning a hospital that had a word or message attached to the top of one of their hospital room operating lights. The idea was, if someone 'died' during an operation but they remained in the room (many NDEs have people claiming they were floating/looking down at themselves), they should be able to see the message. If someone remembered the message following their experience, it would prove that they actually had an NDE (at least one where they had left their body but remained in the room).

[Pyrrho]

Originally posted by CFLarsen
We've heard a few anecdotes about people having NDEs, but which is - by the "experts" in the field - actually the best argument that NDEs are paranormal?

Steve Grenard has thrown out a claim of "100s of other documented cases".

Which one is the best? The five best?
Claus, all such cases are equally valid.

[tracer]

Originally posted by CFLarsen
We've heard a few anecdotes about people having NDEs, but which is - by the "experts" in the field - actually the best argument that NDEs are paranormal?
Well, there's been a lot of chit-chat here recently about this one (http://host.randi.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=24900).

[sackett]

Near-death experiences all seem to have something in common: the subjects thought they were dying or about to die.

I recall reading an account of a vision experienced by a mountain climber who fell a long distance, long enough to think about it as he dropped. He described, in the detailed manner of so many reports of mystical experiences, nothing less than a vision of the Pearly Gates, with rosy colors, golden clouds, the whole candy box. Then he struck a deeply snow-covered slope, and the vision vanished. He was injured but he lived, and clearly was very impressed by this undoubtedly vivid experience.

My point? The man was not physically ill in any way as he fell; his body and brain were not in any medical sense "near death," but he assumed that he was about to die, and he experienced what sounds like a pretty conventional revelation of the entrance to a cornball heaven. (Well, what would you expect? Mountain climbers can't afford to be very imaginative people.)

I had a near-death experience when a bullet missed me. Didn't have any visions, though; I guess I didn't have time to think about it.

Bring me an honest-to-pete POST-death experience. Bring me Lazarus. "But Lord, he stinketh."

[Dragonrock]

Originally posted by Thanz

The movie "Flatliners" starring Kiefer Sutherland, Oliver Platt and (I think) Julia Roberts. It was all true, man.

No, Brainstorm (http://www.imdb.com/Title?0085271) is better. And it REALLY is true, I heard they use the technology from this study to create the mind control techniques in use today.