Help the new guy with Greening/Ross

[Furcifer]

Hi, i'm new to the forum so i wasn't around when this issue was discussed. I'm trying to go through threads but i'm not getting any where. Can someone help explain Ross' argument? The way i read it he assumes a uniform compressive force without deformation on a 16 or 24 section of column. It appears to me the effect would be to shrink the column without losing any structural integrity? This is supposed to continue down for many floors during the collapse? Is this where the idea of symmetry comes from? He seems to be absorbing this energy ie: Hooke's Law. Any help with this would be much appreciated

[rwguinn]

Hi, i'm new to the forum so i wasn't around when this issue was discussed. I'm trying to go through threads but i'm not getting any where. Can someone help explain Ross' argument? The way i read it he assumes a uniform compressive force without deformation on a 16 or 24 section of column. It appears to me the effect would be to shrink the column without losing any structural integrity? This is supposed to continue down for many floors during the collapse? Is this where the idea of symmetry comes from? He seems to be absorbing this energy ie: Hooke's Law. Any help with this would be much appreciated

There are some posts in the sticky:
I recomend starting here (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?p=1911440&highlight=ross#post1911440) . R Mackey is very good at explaining things--better than I, by quite a bit.

[uk_dave]

How does one explain someone elses fantasy?

Some people think that you could knock out a few columns and the ones above the gap will fall perfectly on to the ones below.

Basically, such people lack imagination.

[~enigma~]

How does one explain someone elses fantasy?

Some people think that you could knock out a few columns and the ones above the gap will fall perfectly on to the ones below.

Basically, such people lack imagination.
That's imaginative...wrong but it really is quite imaginative. Sort of like how a magician pulls a tablecloth out from under a fully set dinner table :)

[Furcifer]

There are some posts in the sticky:
I recomend starting here . R Mackey is very good at explaining things--better than I, by quite a bit.

excellent. the link to mackey's orginal critique in here was ver y helpful, especially cuz it appears i was right.

[Unsecured Coins]

SOCK!!

Sorry... I had to.

[Furcifer]

SOCK? I'm not sure what to make of that. Thanks?

[Unsecured Coins]

SOCK? I'm not sure what to make of that. Thanks?

http://forums.randi.org/imagehosting/150514638f7deb943f.gif

[~enigma~]

http://forums.randi.org/imagehosting/150514638f7deb943f.gif
Democratic huh...your giving him 5 choices :)

[Unsecured Coins]

i like to be civil

[Furcifer]

ahhhh...yes. SOCK Well i'd like to think i more of a Henson creation, perhaps a Fozzy? or Beeker?

[PhantomWolf]

I wouldn't worry too much, heck I got called a sock when I started, I think it's sort of a trial by fire here, lol.

[Furcifer]

I wouldn't worry too much, heck I got called a sock when I started, I think it's sort of a trial by fire here, lol.

awww, you mean you don't get to post useless drivel and misinformation without reprise? i'm going back to youtube!