The Department of Positive Out of Body Possibilities [Archive] - Page 4

Tim4848

18th February 2008, 11:13 AM

You still haven't answered any part of this question.

Where do I start:

The 600 million out of body experience people do not know anything about it, because it is a average, and it is random.

On the other hand, if we did a better job letting people know about it a head of time, then you might have better luck in finding out if they are real or not.

What do we think is real about it to begin with ?

If is real enough for science to be doing experiments in this field. the only problem with that is how they are going about doing their experiments.

Example the natural order of things explain it this way.

Fight or flight

Does our energy flight from the fight of keeping our body going, when vital parts of our body is not in connection with our inner thoughts.

My thoughts are connected to my inner tough ts, so if my inner thoughts decide to head south for the situation, I am going as well, regardless how I feel about it.

Your inner thoughts put computers to shame, and the flow of the movement is just as good, based on how we think.

Imagine we have this person, who claims to be able to have these curtain type of out of body experience, the kind that make you feel they are real, but they have been doing them for so long, but they still do not have a way to explain that they are really leaving their body.

The patient claims in this state, they do not have a mouth and they can no hear normal voices as well.

What do we do?

We can't communicate with voice, they have no mouth and they know they can not talk, as far as hearing, we don't have a way of communicating that way anyway, so at this time, the hearing part just stops us from talking to a empty room anyway.

If we place our plan in place about my idea correctly, then if we do decide to continue open dialog with any potential out of body afterlife person, then we will have to do it with words, or different colors.

At this time we would have to do some research and see if past out of body people have recorded if they were able to see words or not. There is a good chance that hey can not, and if that is the case, it might help us in the password security side of it, and any concerns about inside trading as well, but that is getting a head of us anyway.

If we can not talk to them normal, then what other option can we provide, maybe a machine that is geared at following responses at a curtain location, just like the machine is set up to do now, the only exception is we will be allowing the patient in their new condition to interact with this machine.

Can the patient in this made up scenario be able to effect this out come?

We do not know, regardless what new words science might act that they have.

Science is very good at using what they have, but they don't have everything, and as they stare down at different experiments they are trying, they have not been getting the support they need in past patients, because the past patients have no clue what is expected of them.

Just because a patient in his mind believes he has checked enough stuff in this field to make theories, still leaves the potential patient.

We know if a person goes into a cave, and we see them do this, and then the cave opening caves in, that we now have a situation to Analise.

How far in the cave are they, did they get past the cave in on the inside of the cave, basically are they dead or a live at science standards?

How much air is in the cave, and how hard is it to get back in the cave.

So many questions, and so many different options, depending on the amount of time you have, and what experience the person have in the cave haves.
Maybe even what safety stuff is in the cave as well, depending if they got back far enough from the cave in.

How stable is the land around the cave in. Do you risk more people getting hurt or killed By science standards, to pursue this rescue or not. I would think at this point, cost is not an issue, because we are geared at saving real people, and as long as John Wayne DNA is in our genes, we are going to try everything we can, because it is the right thing to do.

Now with my idea, there is no danger to people helping, because the conditions are safe.

Now on the other hand, if the staff helping with BrainGate start deporting that they are being attacked by evil spirits, then we have a new situation to work on.

I would think that would fall under letting your mind get the better of you, but we can address that, if it is a concern on their part.

The moment of truth with my science falls can be measured at a curtain time, and in a curtain location, and the results will be made by the trained patient of that field of science.

Sure science does all the easy ones like we see the moon, we place a person on the moon, and we can measure it, mine is no different, but you can't see it.

to work with

Loss Leader

18th February 2008, 11:46 AM

Where do I start:

...

to work with

Jesus Tapdancing Christ.

Tim4848

18th February 2008, 11:52 AM

Jesus Tapdancing Christ.

With comments like that you worry me some times,

If you don't mind me asking, what faith are you anyway, and have you been doing your homework on that field?

Little 10 Toes

18th February 2008, 07:07 PM

Link showing 600,000,000 people will have an OBE? Proof you life inside energy (which, by the way, you still haven't explained based on todays science principles). Proof that BrainGate communicates by friction.

PS: Can you explain to me how you got from being a VP of Finance to working, I assume, entry-level fast food. You can PM me if you wish.

Where do I start:

The 600 million out of body experience people do not know anything about it, because it is a average, and it is random.

So you admit you have no proof for your number because "it is a average" and "it is random" and you haven't shown where you got it.

Here's a number that isn't random. Zero. That's the amount of proof you have shown.

Remember folks, zero proof, lots of rambling and making up of ideas, tons of pleas, but no proof. Let's let this troll starve.

devnull

18th February 2008, 07:12 PM

we've been trying, but someone always continues to post... like me, now :)

Tim4848

18th February 2008, 10:09 PM

Some people are so funny, do you know what funnimg is until ypu listen ti thrm?

It is true thay I have an idea thet is free,and I really don't care who does it first.

Tim4848

19th February 2008, 12:03 AM

Thank you for reading my thoughts,

Example:

I have been floating out of my body. it seams forever, and why won't humans thing of us?

they know that energy can not be destroyed, but they are deystroying us, by leaving us so isolated, and regardless what I do, I feel SO alone, and tomorrow will find me no better, because there was a time I had so many friends to communicate with but now they are all gone. and I don't see it getting any better. but what am I to do, I have no idea how to communicate from this state, so I will just float around and hope that it all works out.

That was an example of the other side, the one that you assume is gone, but do you really know for sure, could this be another New Orleans all over again?

Cuddles

19th February 2008, 04:58 AM

do you know what funnimg is

No. No I don't.

amb

19th February 2008, 06:10 AM

The one in Innaloo?
Your right. The only lobster available at this time of night would be the frozen kind in my local IGA supermarket. Not the same.
Innaloo fishmonger is a rip off. I refuse to pay $50 per kg for Barramundi fish.
Try Burswood fish supply. [half the price]

Little 10 Toes

19th February 2008, 08:00 AM

No. No I don't.
Cuddles, I'm surprised you haven't "ypu listen ti thrm" yet. After "ypu listen ti thrm", you'll know. And once you do, please explain it to me. :D

amb

20th February 2008, 12:47 AM

Found frozen lobster. Defrosted it in boiling water for 20 minutes. Delicious. Am still in my body though. I did think I was in another reality while eating said lobster. lol.

Tim4848

20th February 2008, 07:17 PM

Never had lobster, but I did save money on my car insurance and I did get my spell check working again.

:)

devnull

20th February 2008, 07:58 PM

Found frozen lobster. Defrosted it in boiling water for 20 minutes. Delicious. Am still in my body though. I did think I was in another reality while eating said lobster. lol.

Just to completely derail the thread in an attempt to make it worthwhile, you know that mustardy crap in the head of the cray/lobster? My wife eats it with a spoon.

She also sucks prawn heads.

Damn portuguese. They eat all sorts of weird crap.

Tim4848

20th February 2008, 10:31 PM

"difficulty communicating with the written word."

Please fill free to help me with a media kit on this topic, if you have the time.

There is more to life than just Lobster.

I will be the first to say this is true, and that is why I need a situation to talk about it, not write about it.

I am not trying to re-invent the wheel here.

BrainGate has already established that it can work. I just feel it is a better tool to be used for what I am trying to do. I know it is a lot better than a toaster.

All I am really doing is taking their idea one step further.

In baseball they call that following through

I believe that the core of BrainGate has to do with friction and math, and the difference in where the placement of their sensor must be in both situations.

In humans next to the skull, but it will be out in the open for potential out of body afterlife patients of BrainGate.

My plan is to get the patients to a plan situation to try an experiment from the inside out of space as we know it now.

Are we inside something bigger than we know?

I don't know, but I believe my idea is a common sense one for trying it, because we can expand off of my free Idea, by adding more bells and whistles, but we at least have a starting point.

Have I ever seen a ghost?

No

Do I feel we need more research into out of body experiences?

Not as far as trying to make them happen. We already have 60 million people on this Earth having one at some point in their life. I have already been there and seen it first hand, and I seen enough to understand what our best chance might be in that situation, as far as trying to communicate to one another.

My inner thoughts assure me, that if we can get this going, and start talking about it, we will make it happen.

Think of my idea as a puzzle, we have all the pieces we need now to put the puzzle together, everything else from there is just helping the percentages, because we started at zero to the idea, but after other factors being added over time, it makes this idea look better.

I saw a show one time about this math guy, who talked about helping your odds on a possibility.

Example:

He said if somebody told you that they just looked out the window and saw a pink elephant, that they was just trying to pull one over on you, but if all of a sudden you heard circus music, the chances of them actually seeing a pink elephant is now better.

I have no music to help my odds, but I would think the fact that I have been there, and the other 600 million people who will have it happen to them as well, is a good sign, when you take into consideration that we live inside of energy, and energy can not be destroyed.

I believe when I was in an out of body situation, that this idea would be our best option.

The machine communicates with thought, the only thing you will have to communicate in an out of body state. would be our thoughts.

We will ask the patients of BrainGate if they would be interested in trying this idea, and if they would do it for free.

We will be counting on their experience with the machine.

Some people donate parts of their body after they die, all I an asking them to do is go and try and play video games on this machine sensor. Some people get all the good jobs don't they?

We will play out a plan a head of time expecting the worst, just in case something happens unexpected and we have to try the idea sooner.

Expect the worst and the worst will never come.
Don't expect anything and that will be what you will get.
I paint a quick picture to get this ball rolling for free, and then I have no doubt that others will even build off of that.

Example:

We might decide that we want them to try their hardest at curtain times, so we can save on staff help of the machine.

Expecting the worst, that they can't make out words at first, and changing the way the room looks during curtain times, and we can talk about that in more detail later, as with anything to do with this topic.

I am only asking for 24 hours after they die of natural causes to try this idea, and that is only if the patient is willing to try the idea from the get go, in other words it will only be in their their wishes to try this.

We are already paying taxes for the machine and research right now, so we should be able to have a little say in the idea, and it is something we need to check for Homeland Security any way, just in case it can work.

Example: If we can do it, any country can do it

If we don't try, then we are just giving another country the opportunity to try it or not.

They say that you or me can not buy a BrainGate, but why do we have one in China?

Humans who are focused on something can do great things, and I also feel the patients will take this idea to great heights, if we support it correctly, and support them everyday for what they could be doing.

If we do my idea, and I can see no reason why we should not try, then we surely need to support these patients a lot better than we have been supporting our troops over seas, regardless how we feel about that situation as well.

If the inside of energy, or anything to do with energy could be destroyed, or if we did not have so much open space in the invisible force of clear space, and air was just air, I would not think my idea could be possible, but it is not like that.

This idea is still an option, and we should at least follow through with the option, so we can take it off our to do list if nothing else.

Some talk about others who have believed that their was something else out there as I am speaking and took their life for what they believe.

My idea does not reward anybody who takes their life as anybody who will get a free ride with this idea.

We will only be testing with the patients of BrainGate, until we have worked out all the things that science wants to see, and understand.

Bottom Line::

It is a wait and see free idea based on focus with a plan.

I hope this help answer some of your questions,

Tim

Tim4848

20th February 2008, 10:33 PM

I believe the only way this idea or any idea will work, is by supporting it 100%, until you make it happen, or you decide to place it on hold, until more can be done to decide it's out come.

More details:

I will need an opportunity to bond with the patients of Brain Gate, and see if they would be interested in trying my idea.

If one of them or more would like to try it, then we do the things we need to do, to help them with their efforts, but they have to be on board with the idea.

Red tape to what they are doing now, will need to be tweaked just a bit, for such a experiment like this, and there is always some type of red tape.

My role will be in charge of making the operations of this idea work.

To train the patients on what we are expecting them to do.

We will be giving them pass words that they can use in this state, so we can measure it.

The main thing the patients need to do right now, is what they are already doing, and that is getting better with Brain Gate.

The patients experience in this field will be part of the key.

The patient knowing a head of time where the machine will absolutely be waiting for them in this situation will be the key.

I am also counting on this field of science, to even be better at my moment of truth with this research as well, and what ever new things they are using will only help my idea as well.

Since some of the patients of Brain Gate might be people who have had near death experiences, that their chances of already being in this state at one time or another would be very good, and if that is not the case now, I would expect it in the future, making them even more experiences to the situation, not that they have too.

This idea is also counting on more support as it gets closer to happening, giving the patient the type of energy they might need to make the connection.
Why is the patient so important?

This give us the opportunity to try and place somebody in a place that we can not find at this time, or if we have, now we have somebody in that situation to verify it once and for all.

Will you see anything when it happens, other than what you will see on the monitor?

No, this is not going to be a visual thing for the human eye.

Will we watch the room for Orbs and cold spots?

If that is what you are into, or you feel it can add to helping us find out the truth.

I am betting that afterlife thought can touch the surface of what we want them to do, a lot better than us trying to find them. i believe the odds are a lot better if we have a plan, just in case, instead of doing nothing, just in case, when we should just focus on taking it off our bucket list and move on, because it is free and it is operational easy, compared to other things in life.

What other type of details would you like to know?

I believe that we live inside energy, and energy can not be destroyed as science saids, and I hope this idea of mine will support science theory by making it work better than what I am expecting at this time.

All that I have just spoke of comes right off the top of my head, but like any idea, it is only as good as the effort you place in it.

We could sit here all day and assume why it might not work, or why it will work, but the idea is practical, and it can be done for free, so why not try it?

I am also counting on the fact that the 60 million people who will have an out of body experience at some point in life, is just part of my bigger picture, because just like wet dreams, they mean something, and this something has aways been a constance in this field, so just maybe, out inner energy thoughts does have a plan when the body gives out, and we just need to play out this idea and see if we are closer to unraveling this mystery with what new tools we have to work with.

Where could we be in a year?

The patients agree to the idea, and I drive to Boston and train them, then they continue to live their life like they always have.

Where do I see it after 100 years if we are still focused on it?

What other parts of my idea would you like to know about?

What has been my biggest challenge yet?

Trying to explain the concept from start to finish.

This idea is not about ME, this idea is for you, please don't sell this idea short, because if I am right, and I might be.

This is the best way I know or see at this time, that might have the best chance of working.

Communicating back to humans in this situation is what my idea is all about, and trying to do it with what we have too work with and nothing else.

We could find out once and for all how good these mediums like Lisa Williams really are, or will God or an evil spirit might answer the first call?

What ever you think might happen, or could happen in your worst scenario, will have it's chance, but if we don't like the results at that time, we can always unplug the machine.

I hope this help explain any questions you have, but if you still do, please fill free to respond.

Thank you,
Tim

devnull

20th February 2008, 10:44 PM

Tim

Noone cares. Thats why we're talking about lobster.

mmmmmm..... lobster.

Regards.

Tim4848

20th February 2008, 10:59 PM

I learn something new everyday.

Please fill free to inform me when you are done eating or somebody cares to talk about this possibility, which ever comes first.

Tim

amb

21st February 2008, 02:47 AM

Just to completely derail the thread in an attempt to make it worthwhile, you know that mustardy crap in the head of the cray/lobster? My wife eats it with a spoon.

She also sucks prawn heads.

Damn portuguese. They eat all sorts of weird crap.Reminds me of my dear old departed dad.
He used to do that to chicken heads, suck out the eyes and brain. He would spend at least 10 minutes on the thing. You're lucky. while she eats the crap, she leaves the real thing for you. Sure she's Portuguese and not Chinese?

amb

21st February 2008, 02:57 AM

I learn something new everyday.

Please fill free to inform me when you are done eating or somebody cares to talk about this possibility, which ever comes first.

Tim
Sorry Tim. But a man has to eat sometimes. You're brain gate idea sounds like science fiction. Like that TV show, what's it called? Time gate? Where a person steps through a kind of gate, and finds himself in a different world. The name has completely left me. The possibilty of something like that ever been reality may become real in, say two million years. by witch time we will be long extinct.

Little 10 Toes

21st February 2008, 10:18 PM

Celebrities that have nothing to gain, by coming out with their experiences, because it was real to them as well, or 600 million people who will have an out of body experience at some point in their life.

We already have 60 million people on this Earth having one at some point in their life. I have already been there and seen it first hand, and I seen enough to understand what our best chance might be in that situation, as far as trying to communicate to one another.
[snip]

I have no music to help my odds, but I would think the fact that I have been there, and the other 600 million people who will have it happen to them as well, is a good sign, when you take into consideration that we live inside of energy, and energy can not be destroyed.
[snip]
They say that you or me can not buy a BrainGate, but why do we have one in China?

Links/proof reguarding anything you've mentioned in the mini-quotes?

AmyWilson

21st February 2008, 10:24 PM

Ron_Tomkins

21st February 2008, 11:21 PM

Isn't this thread beggining to qualify for being moved to the Humor section?

amb

22nd February 2008, 03:42 AM

Tim4848

23rd February 2008, 01:58 AM

I'm not appose to that as long as we start focusing on it.

Tim4848

23rd February 2008, 02:04 AM

Beef, where's the beef? It's been proved time after time that this phenomenon is the brain shutting down. If a person survives his/her ordeal, doesn't it prove that the person was not dead to begin with?

Now you are starting to understand it.

I guess the word dead will have to change it's meaning, with out doing anything to change the laws of science as we know it.

There is room for my idea, and I know how we can do it.

Think family feud, and what is the number one question I am looking for?

We will have open BrainGate night, and if you feel their is a out of body family member near you, train them at home, put them in a car and head to Boston, because you might have a Chance to play the reality DNA show of all time, what family can be the next to communicate with what some feel is the impossible.

It is all in the ratings.

Tim

Tim4848

23rd February 2008, 02:11 AM

Out of body experiences are a reality. They happen to more than a few people. That's more than enough for people to realize something of the sort exists. It's only extremists like on this forum who act like it's not real, maybe people here just don't have the intelligence to see what's real or not.

Thank you Amy for those words of wisdom, and what I have to usually take on alone.

This site reminds me of Larry King, when they bring other people in to argue with there point of view, and yes it gets boring at times, but I just hope the other people viewing this topic gets something from it. I don't know if they do or not, but they do seem to check it out quite often, so who knows, and every so often I get somebody like you who understands it better helping me out and I want to thank you for that, and it can only get better, once they get past the change of it and they got plenty to eat.

Tim

Little 10 Toes

23rd February 2008, 05:26 PM

Speaking of Larry King, how is that appearance date coming along? Or hasn't your wife made the call yet?

Tim4848

23rd February 2008, 09:28 PM

Speaking of Larry King, how is that appearance date coming along? Or hasn't your wife made the call yet?

No call yet.

Little 10 Toes

23rd February 2008, 11:01 PM

No call yet.
Who no call yet?

Tim4848

24th February 2008, 12:45 AM

Who no call yet?

Nobody!

I'm a slacker!

amb

24th February 2008, 01:24 AM

When one of you guys have a little scientific evidence, not much, just a little, will you let us know?
Till then, your hypothesis is science fiction, just like that TV show called Stargate.
Maybe you watched that movie ''Flatliners'' once to many times.

Tim4848

24th February 2008, 03:10 AM

Hokulele

24th February 2008, 09:10 PM

Nobody!

I'm a slacker!

Then why on earth would anyone ever trust you with money?

All this lobster talk has gotten me hungry. I think tonight calls for a little shrimp scampi, extra garlic. Mmmmm, garlic.

Tim4848

24th February 2008, 10:04 PM

Then why on earth would anyone ever trust you with money?

All this lobster talk has gotten me hungry. I think tonight calls for a little shrimp scampi, extra garlic. Mmmmm, garlic.

There is a difference between giving you the tools to make something happen and doing more than the company you work for expect from you.

That is one advantage of being a visionary problem solver, you always have the ability to do more than what is expected, a balance of control with growth, always taking a percentage and focusing on ways to make things run better than they already do. because you have to always blend the flag pole of every possibility that is out there, but you have to do it in a way that is fun, because it does not matter how much you make, because regardless your standard of living, you can always increase that number, but to do something because you love it is a completely different thing in it self, because all other rules are out of the way, allowing you the opportunity to do more than your own thoughts expect.

There is a time and place for everything and this idea time is now, regardless what else we talk about.

Why am I good in business?

I make it a Win,Win, and Win situation for all parties. The owners, the customers and the employees, but I do it off of a bonus plan, one that can be measured based on employees effort, and then I give the employees the tools they need to win. If the employees are truly happy, then the customers will be happy, and if the employees treat the customers like family, then they begin to make emotional deposits into the customer emotional checking account, and as long as we continue to make deposits, then if by some strange chance we mess up some way, then they don't mind as much if we have to make a with draw from time to time.

Minds set:

The customer is always right, unless it pertains to company policies, laws, or procedures.

Our business mind set will be that of a hotel that is never booked, there is always room for more customers.

There is a lot of bells and whistles involved in running a company right, with out having loss business, employee turn over, theft, and all the other problems. To do it right, you have to be able to do it right your self, and then be the best icon you can, cross training everybody on how to do it right.

A balance of correct pain and pleasure, in a way that they are doing back flips.

No man like to be told to take the trash out, but if you make it fun, and they did it because they wanted too, then you are on the right track.

Family don't steal from family, and that is the type of business I run, regardless of the size of the company.

The supervisors job is to help their employees look good in everything they do, and then they share in the rewards that are put in place for every different employee.

The higher up in the company you get, the less ego you show.

You do not bring people along, they bring you along.

I love to hire employees who say that they do not have a life, because what they are really saying is, I am bored and I want to be a part of something, a hands on opportunity to ride a journey going some where, so if it is business or this topic, the mind set is the same.

I won't make my idea work, somebody out there in Internet land will, by doing something to make the opportunity have light, and then it will be my responsibility not to over power you that I am right, but to get my idea tried, and let the evidence speak for it self, and it should be in the field of BrainGate.

Thank you for reading my thoughts,
Tim

devnull

24th February 2008, 10:16 PM

amb

25th February 2008, 03:40 AM

Then why on earth would anyone ever trust you with money?

[quote]All this lobster talk has gotten me hungry. I think tonight calls for a little shrimp scampi, extra garlic. Mmmmm, garlic. If the garlic doesn't make your partner or whomever leave their body, nothing will. :eek:

Tim4848

25th February 2008, 07:09 PM

Actually Tim, having pondered you incessant rantings, I wouldnt trust you with tuppence. I also have serious doubts that you have any business experience whatsoever.

No offense intended ofcourse.

ps. Please stop using 'we' and 'our'. It almost implies that I am somehow involved. It makes me feel dirty and, quite honestly, my self-esteem is suffering. Perhaps I should stop reading this thread, but its like a traffic accident I just cant look away from.

Thank you for those kind words on my birthday, it goes well with the fever I am having.

The accident I am worried about is the one caused by not planning, and that is what we have not been doing for quite some time with this topic.

Be the grass hopper and spend all your time having fun and eating lobster along the Way to what ever you think is waiting for you in your situation, but if you pull on my street and want directions, I offer them as free as my idea in this field, and if I can not help you, I would like to think others will help as well down the way.

My idea goes hand in hand with science, at least the science I was raised on.

http://www.banneker.org/education/dept/deptinfo.php?sectiondetailid=114

Thank you for reading my thoughts,

Tim

Little 10 Toes

25th February 2008, 07:52 PM

Why am I good in business?

Please tell me why an ex-VP of Finance who is now a manager of a fast food establishment is "good in business".

My idea goes hand in hand with science, at least the science I was raised on.

Please explain which science tells you that you live in energy.

Tim4848

25th February 2008, 08:38 PM

My science

amb

26th February 2008, 05:24 AM

My science
Which is? By the way. Happy birthday.

Tim4848

26th February 2008, 12:38 PM

Which is? By the way. Happy birthday.

Thank you ambnp,

I have been sick with a flew or something for the last couple of days, and
I am a big believer that your mind don't work as good while you are in this situation, so instead of me answering questions, please fill free to answer some of my questions.

What is the average life span of humans?

Ron_Tomkins

26th February 2008, 12:55 PM

Thank you ambnp,

I have been sick with a flew or something for the last couple of days, and
I am a big believer that your mind don't work as good while you are in this situation, so instead of me answering questions, please fill free to answer some of my questions.

What is the average life span of humans?

Dear Tim:

Stop smoking cigars

Thank you for reading my words

Ron

devnull

26th February 2008, 03:18 PM

Dear Ron:

Stop bouncing this thread.

Damn it, I did it myself, just now.

Thank you reading my words

Simon

Tim4848

26th February 2008, 05:20 PM

Thank you for reading my thoughts,

Another site told me that the average life span is now 70.

Now if you take the 600 million people who will have an unexpected out of body experience at some time in their average life.

What will that average be every year?

600 million divided into 70 = _______________

Tim

Hokulele

26th February 2008, 05:23 PM

If that is an example of your math skills, no wonder your science is bunk.

Little 10 Toes

26th February 2008, 09:46 PM

... and he still hasn't shown how he got his number.

devnull

26th February 2008, 11:23 PM

... and he still hasn't shown how he got his number.

Rectally?

amb

27th February 2008, 03:13 AM

I don't believe in an afterlife, so I don't have to spend my whole life fearing hell, or fearing heaven even more. For whatever the tortures of hell, I think the boredom of heaven would be even worse. [Asimov]

Tim4848

1st March 2008, 11:29 PM

Thank you for reading my thoughts,

Some feel if I want to make this a reality sooner I should go this direction.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Bilderberg+Group&btnG=Google+Search

They have the power and energy to make it happen.

What do you think?

amb

2nd March 2008, 03:01 AM

Tim4848

2nd March 2008, 10:33 PM

If I could read thoughts, I would be rich beyond compare.
Imagine the blackmail I could threaten, the pin numbers to people's bank accounts. The possibilities are endless. :)

Apologies for been out of topic. I couldn't resist.

That is why this idea must be monitored in ways that will prevent that from happening.

Now on the other hand we can say this sounds complicated and do nothing while another country takes your idea and takes it to the point where you wish you did find the time to work out these problems.

We could start my idea today, and still have plenty of time to focus on these issues, but to wait and fix the issues only opens the door for others to get a head start on us, and that would be a mistake.

China already has a BrainGate machine, and why that they do is beyond me, but they do, and to assume that they will not use it in this fashion is anybody guess, but in my world where you expect the worst, then the worst never happens, leads me to believe that we need to be pro-active, not the opposite.

Thank you for reading my thoughts,
Tim

amb

2nd March 2008, 11:15 PM

There may in the distant future be a kind of computer that may record our every thought, our very personality, and transfer the information on to a disc which in turn can transfer the information to a clone or computer, thereby ''immortality'' can be a distinct possibility. But at this moment, it's pure science fiction. We have avery good chance of becoming extinct before such ideas are put into practice.

Tim4848

3rd March 2008, 04:35 PM

Little 10 Toes

3rd March 2008, 07:21 PM

China already has a BrainGate machine, and why that they do is beyond me, but they do, and to assume that they will not use it in this fashion is anybody guess, but in my world where you expect the worst, then the worst never happens, leads me to believe that we need to be pro-active, not the opposite.

Proof?

And to be proactive, please add this statement to the list of things that I have asked proof for and that you still have not provided.

Please explain what your "science" is.

Oh, you still haven't answered why an ex "VP of Finance" who is now a manager at a "fast food resturant" is "good in business". (This is NOT an ad hominum attack, but because you have stated what you used to do, and what you are currently doing, and you have made another claim without providing any facts.)

Tim4848

4th March 2008, 03:23 AM

Proof?

And to be proactive, please add this statement to the list of things that I have asked proof for and that you still have not provided.

Please explain what your "science" is.

Oh, you still haven't answered why an ex "VP of Finance" who is now a manager at a "fast food resturant" is "good in business". (This is NOT an ad hominum attack, but because you have stated what you used to do, and what you are currently doing, and you have made another claim without providing any facts.)

I use to enjoy playing with Hot wheel cars as a child. Would you like to know that information as well?

My idea is out there on different sites, and I would be more than glad to do a documentary on my idea, but my past employment or my future employment really don't have a bearing on this idea, because it is a different mind map.

My idea is explained on this topic, or another site under this topic. The only reason it is not all under this site alone, is because of the quality of question that are asked of me here.

I totally understand why. If you don't believe, then how can you ask the right questions.

amb

4th March 2008, 04:41 AM

Sorry Tim. But if you worked for me and you discussed such ideas, I wouldn't trust you to even make a hamburger.

Tim4848

4th March 2008, 04:37 PM

Thank you for reading my thoughts,

That is a good thing, because I have never sold a hamburger in my life.

Tim

devnull

4th March 2008, 04:43 PM

underqualified?

Tim4848

4th March 2008, 05:20 PM

Thank you for reading my thoughts,

Maybe for selling hamburgers, but when it comes to this topic, I have forgot more about it than some will ever know.

To save time though, please feel free to take your Lobster behavior toward me personally and go back to my topic The Department of Negative Out of Body Possibilities and express what ever you like, because I don't know what you are trying to sell, but I ain't buying.

My idea is in place and it is free!!!

Please fill free to explain why my idea will not work here if you would like.

Tim

Tim4848

6th March 2008, 10:58 PM

Thank you for reading my thoughts,

Very few seam to come to this site, so you do get my attention, and you do seam to ask good questions.

I have no idea how you could behave in this situation floating out of your body after death. All I can do is compare it to my out of body experience, when I feel I was of sound mind at the time, and now I have an idea where we can try it, if the BrainGate patients are up to all that they will have to do after death.

I know when I was having my experience I willed my way back into my body, and if in the future, I do not have that option anymore, then I feel this BrainGate would be that best option, but only if we begin to focus on that possibility.

I believe that if we are still of sound mind out of our body inside this energy that makes us be able to have this as an option, be it our inner thoughts, that in reality in closes us, gives us option, as I had in my experience, then why not try it. What do we have to lose?

Through out history people talk of experiences, with things, that gave the indication that it was caused by something that could not be explained, and all of that was disorganize, just imagine if we could train our ghost a head of time, just to see with the new tech that came out in 2005, can accommodate the life styles that we have come accustomed too, with e-mail, video games, and any other communication devise we have.

Your inner thoughts can be measured by going too the inner skull now, all I am asking is leaving a sensor out in the open, so it surface is touching space, and then I am expecting these patients Will try their hardest to make it happen, because it is something to do, and after you charge the energy and will with motivation in a positive way, then we try something different with every patient on different low energy sensor ideas, just like Edison would do. Don't try the same experiment every time looking for an element, no try different ones, until you find the right combination.
I know how to make this idea work, because my inner thoughts do it, not me, I make pizza's for a living.

I have no desire but to play some Pogo, or go to bed. I have no ego, but I do have the ability to respect my inner thoughts that takes me out of pain and into pleasure, when it saids it can be done, I have no doubt that we can do this, and we must do this for every lost sole to total communication across the board, and yes this Will take time, just like putting a fence around this country, but it don't have to be like that. Hook me up with Obama, Hillary, or McCain, and see which one is willing to take advantage of the next star wars toy out there, the one that can put the rest in the dust, with this idea, because 80 percent of Americans believe in afterlife, and if they believe that you believe in it as well, then they will believe in you that you can get it done, and done right.

Is it as expensive as health care?

No, it is Free, and it will also help the economy, it will help almost anything.

Crime
Suicides,
wars
drugs
Anything that is in the public eye after a curtain date, and yes I go into so many different topics on this idea, but that just tells you how it plays a part in making this Earth a true utopia, or at least better than what it could be.

Do you want to settle for less, when you have a chance to have better.

I don't know if it will work, but at least we focused on something that might make a difference, and we did it the right way, with what we have to work with.

Tim

Tim4848

6th March 2008, 11:49 PM

Thank you for reading my thoughts,

Do you like free music, who don't. How about a free way of finding out if there is afterlife or not?

It's free!

All you have to do is get me in front of the media and then you decide.

If I am wrong your inner thoughts will know it, but if I am right, you have a new way to look at life as you have never looked at it before.

Can you take it all with you?

Find out, call me on it in a media where you can decide, because typing is not my cup of tea.

I have forty thousand thoughts on average every day, and my typing just can't keep up with that, so please ask your self this one question.

If I promise I know how we can find out once and for all that there is an afterlife, and we can measure it, and yes you can be a part of it in the future, then why not find out once and for all, especially sense it is free!!!!

My favorite song right now is that Hannah Montana song, where she is ready to do something, and her dad don't won't her too.

I feel we could get this started now, but others don't know about the positive advantages yet, so we wait.

Turn The Department of Positive Out of Body Possibilities into some blog or something that will get it media attention so we can make this happen.

If you are one of those that can make it happen, even though you don't really have a clue what I am saying, please do, because this idea of mine is free, but it is deeper than any oil we can find these days.

Did you ever want to work toward a legacy at an early age, then advertise this idea, because I will not let your legacy down, trust me on that one.

If you were the one to make it happen, because you did something that made a difference, then you have something to be proud of, because I am just spinning my wheels right now until we make my idea a measuring devise.
One that might bring us closer to the truth.

This is a reality matrix, and this is your chance to help make it happen, and if the Government come and take me away, so be it, but you did the best you could, and I just was not able to get to the phone booth fast enough..

Think about this for a second if you like
Star Wars for example, imagine your afterlife as a star ship, where you can go out an explore the universe, just like out of body afterlife do now, except for the ones that don't understand it, and panics because they don't truly understand it. I'm not saying for some of you that believe that you will see your past relative or something. If you believe that, go for it, but after so much time, you might want to fill them in on my idea, and what they can do to make it happen as well, and their calls could be answered as well, once we know that their is a whole new market in the afterlife market, ones that like to make and spend money, just like you, a world that can be as normal as any thing else, and privileges for having the ability to follow the privilege opportunity that will be given, and what we will expect.

We expect that it will be done right, and nothing less, because this is a big thing, and you should feel good that you can help to make it a true reality, because in the big picture, if your experience winds up being like mine, then you are going to want to check out this option, because it fits your comfort zone so well, and did I bother to mention that it is free!

I believe afterlife is just like what a normal near death out of body experience is. A place where your inner thought energy, that can't be destroyed must go, because it has no choice to the constance it has been given. Think of your inner thoughts like a progressive Cd, one that has the ability to be read, once we allow the CD to get in position to make it happen.

Tim Brewer has been trained all his life to be anything that he set his mind too, and he improved on that by listening to CD while he drove on his last job, learning how to do all of them mentally.

Tim has the ability to make this idea work, because Tim honestly believes that he can do it, but we have to give him a chance, because this will not happen over night, but it just might happen when we wake up one day and take back our reality, and stand for something that we know that must be done, because too many things point that direction, and yes their is evidence that is produced by every patient effort, always trying different idea's, ones that our plan out a head of time, with forums, that will be pointed to that field, looking for different ways to generate different types of energy, that could be measured, if the conditions are right. If afterlife can control it self in a static field, then what can we do to make those conditions better.

Is clutter give off the right energy?

That will be some of the different things we must consider, doing our part, just Like Thomas A Edison did in his day.

We always have to be trying something new everyday on so many different levels always looking for answers, just like these, and if I am wrong, record it in history, Tim was wrong, or maybe you will say that Tim had a good idea, but we also expected him to find the media, or who ever I need to see to make it happen, until you finally understand, that my inner thoughts came up with the idea, but Tim is sure lazy in that field.

Maybe I should get an agent and see if they can do something to make it happen. Do you know any agents?

I would think, that somebody like Bill Gates, would have to get bored at times and search the INTERNET looking for something new, and take a interest in this idea.

Maybe I should go to business forums and put my topic there.

You decide the best forums for me to go, to place my topic there, and see if we can't do something to make it happen.

I am better at delegating, than I am at doing it my self.

I use to be good before my eyes changed, where I can not see as well up close, and I have lost a step or two, but internally I am running on all cylinders, and I welcome you to volunteer and help me make this free idea happen, just because we can, and nothing else for now, and see how it plays out, because I am truly bored just waiting to make this happen.

I believe you will be clear in nature, dominant to a static electricity field if you set your mind to it, telling it now, that this is what type of world you are ready to expect. and if it turns out that way, then you are a head of the game, because now you might be in a position to make a difference., thoughts that can be measured in a frictional world of math, or be ignored based on years of failures in that field based on the fact that the time had not come yet. We still are not ready mentally yet, because we don't know what to expect.

But this is what I expect to do for you.

Bring new jobs, energy, ideas, and even joy to our society.

Sure I am a nobody in this world, as I work a day job to pay the bills, and feed my family. But I have a belief, a passion, that this idea of mine can work and, if you don't believe it based on what ever, that is fine, but if your inner thoughts seam interested in the concept, the same inner thoughts that take you out of pain everyday, and keeps you a live every day. If your inner thoughts can see value, then please fill free to help me, for the rest of you, that just don't understand yet, because I have not explained it good enough, then please bear with me, I like to think that I have a few good things to say from time to time, but that is for you to decide not me.

Thank you for reading my thoughts,
Tim

amb

7th March 2008, 03:13 AM

You have got be kidding. If this idea of your's is so great, why not try and get some people interested enough to fork out some dough and invest in it. After all, if it works your investors and yourself will become squillionaires.
I'm sure you'll find some suckers with more money than sense.

Senex

7th March 2008, 05:37 AM

Tim, there is no shame in taking the medication.

creativecritter41

7th March 2008, 05:48 AM

Tim, there is no shame in taking the medication.

I was thinking the same thing. Is it Narcissism with a bit of Schizophrenia mixed in for added flavor?

:boggled:

Tim4848

9th March 2008, 04:31 AM

Thank you for reading my thoughts.

My goal:

Getting the consent of Brain Gate patients to try my idea from start to finish, and doing it for free.

Allowing similarities to the Brain Gate patients past results with the machine to those that might be detected during a twenty four hour period following the death of the Brain Gate patient.

Searching for real time math similarities to the Brain Gate patient past data information on this machine.

These similarity could come in the form of all types of different variations, until one of them gives the best measurable results.

I believe that time frame communication extensions should be allowed to past Brain Gate patient, if they are able to operate the cursor on the monitor, or we are able to verify any of their personal passwords.

If the patient personal password is verified during this 24 hour time frame I am wanting to measure, then we will analyze that data, and build off of it.

Thomas A. Edison believed in this idea long before I ever was born. The inventor who tried different experiments until he got the type of results he was looking for.

Our space program did not get all the results if needed with just one flight, and that is the same with this idea.

thank you for reading my thoughts,

Tim

Tim4848

10th March 2008, 12:16 PM

and to think I was the only one focused on this issue.

http://www.esalenctr.org/display/sbd07.htm

Cuddles

11th March 2008, 04:52 AM

Getting the consent of Brain Gate patients to try my idea from start to finish, and doing it for free.

Have you considered actually asking them? You've been spamming your nonsense here for months, why haven't you bothered actually doing something?:mad:

amb

11th March 2008, 06:01 AM

How do you convince someone to do an experiment into nonsense?
Have you tried the scientologists? Their coffers are overflowing with cash they are convincing the vulnerable and gullible to part with.

Tim4848

12th March 2008, 12:06 AM

Have you considered actually asking them? You've been spamming your nonsense here for months, why haven't you bothered actually doing something?:mad:

You are right Cuddles.

Not To make one of my long stories shorter. but

I was just thinking about that myself earlier today. I post this great thread that backs up what I have been saying all this time, and I am still waiting.
I went one direction on this idea, and they went another. Now maybe they can find out about me.

How do I do that?

Please give me some links that might help make this a reality. How do I track them down for free?

Do they have e-mails that I can get?

Is it wrong if just every so often an idea like mine to become a reality?

t want to thank everybody that has followed this site here. We are finally getting closer to making it a reality, and would this not be a kick in the pants to the people running for the biggest office in our country, to finally get the credit for this idea, and have the greatest political tool since Reagan's Star War toy.

More than Eighty percent of Americans believe in some type of Afterlife, six hundred million of them will have an out of body experience at some point in there life. We now have a machine that can communicate with thought. My idea is not to re-invent the wheel, but follow through with the one we already got, with people that are already in place, and giving them an opportunity to make history, as I have already done with this topic.

A place where we can find out a lot more about this topic.

We have not scratched the surface.

Everyday I try and go to every web site that I have posted this topic. Trying to count all the views. I noticed some sites are now gone, and one site banned me, but I don't know why.

I try and count up all the views, just to get an idea how many different people I have informed about this topic. I never get to the last one, because I always stop to answer questions.

Don't quote me on this one, but i believe that I have over a quarter of a million views by now, but I might be wrong.

So when do I stop?

How much informing do I need?

I don't know, am I entertaining at all?

Do you ever learn something new?

Have you ever checked me out at a different site?

Am I getting any better?

What can I do to make you happy?

Thank you for reading my thoughts,

Tim

amb

12th March 2008, 02:14 AM

That this nonsense has reached 21 pages is extraordinary in itself.
I suppose I'm just as guilty for bothering to post on this thread.
I really have no time for science fiction. There is to much science out there to discover without wasting precious time reading twaddle.

Cuddles

12th March 2008, 10:41 AM

How do I do that?

Please give me some links that might help make this a reality. How do I track them down for free?

Do they have e-mails that I can get?

How the hell should I know? It's your nonsense, you do the work. Spamming it on internet forums is in no way productive. You want to work with Braingate, talk to the people who make Braingate. You want to work with ill people, you talk to hospitals or research labs. Go away and actually try doing something instead of just dropping word salad all over the internet.

Tim4848

13th March 2008, 12:57 PM

Dear Cuddles,

This is not spam, it is follow through.

I have taken it to the White House,

http://maps.google.com/?cid=10419684663494331245&dtab=2&author=0c6dd0f33fae489d

What do you think America?

Sasha

13th March 2008, 01:19 PM

Tim4848

13th March 2008, 09:09 PM

What does this mean exactly? It just brings up a Google map of the White House.

Look under review 21

Sasha

14th March 2008, 05:04 AM

Look under review 21

OK, it says pray for peace and read Noam Chomsky. Also don't listen to Fox news. I still have no idea what you're trying to say there.

creativecritter41

14th March 2008, 11:14 AM

Look under review 21

http://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/spezial/jasons_smilie/inquisitive.gif

You need to get a hobby.

Tim4848

15th March 2008, 11:51 PM

Thank you for reading my thoughts,

If I had the power to make it happen:

I don't know what the proper procedure or proto call is in science, but I would like the opportunity to communicate with the patients and the staff of Brain Gate.

I would explain to the patients what I am trying to do, and if they agree, then I would talk to their staff, and do the same.

If I had the power and the tools, I would interact with the patients five days a week, explaining to them what the procedure will be.

I would get with the staff and listen to what their concerns are, if any and try explain what we are trying to do, and hope that is enough, but always explaining to them that this has to be a good deal for both of us, and if they are not behind the idea, then I totally understand, and we will continue to part ways until we find the right team.

After the team is in place, then we will begin the cross training, really working the hands on of it, and playing out different senoras.

By the time I get done with the patients that would like to try it, they will have the right stuff.

Now we know that the machine right now is measuring a number of neurons, and what my idea has to offer will vary in that area some what, and deciding what can be considered a measurement will take some creativity, but I feel it can be over come, if you decide the different type of sensors that will be used, will vary in what it has to offer, but that is just if I have the power and the tools to build all the different sensors that we can dream up, and what type of energy is helping in that situation.

We do not want just any type of energy during these experiments, but ones that could complement the situation at first, then take it from there with other stuff later if need be.

Example:

It would be nice if the afterlife we are looking for just show up in a flat screen TV some where, but that won't be the case, if anything they might be effected by the energy source, and they get lost in the situation some how.

I do not know what is acceptable or unacceptable in this situation for them,other than try and make it as safe as can be, and take it from there.

Let's say with in 48 hours of the first afterlife, the idea does not work to my first idea. We continue a routine with that afterlife patient, but now we start to plan what type of experiments we will try with the second patient. The goal is to always keep trying the experiments as though you believe they are there, just following different procedures to different sensors along the way after death.

I believe this is the same way Thomas A. Edison would do it.

The area of the planned experiments will be done in a location where we will measure the waves of this potential energy. Giving these afterlife patients every opportunity to make it happen, if it can happen.

All sensors will always be in a place where the potential afterlife will have a clear view to a monitor, so they can try the experiment.

All they have to do is touch the sensor toward doing things on the monitor, and then our goal will be to use some what the same math they are using on Brain Gate, and modify it to match the patients M.O. on the machine, and see if we can get any type of measurement. Now this measure meant might come in white noise, or impulses through a laser area of measurable space.

Now the machine might have to play out different reads during this time on as many as six or eight monitors on curtain days, or disregarding worded message's on some days and use a black or white code, that the patients will know as well, just in case they can not recognize words or numbers as well.

Our goal if I still have this power is to always have a foundation to continue to try this, just like we try so many other things through out life, but never giving up on it, regardless the results at first.

Is this idea just a number game where only curtain people have the ability to do it. Maybe that will turn out to be the case, then we will also have a Brain Gate unit open to the public, where it will always be, and advertised to the general public, so they also know that they have an opportunity as well, and if they can over come obstacles to get to this machine, and then if there is such a thing as Murphy Law, then some type of unexpected result should show it self at some point as well.

Regardless how much persuasion, power or influence I might have in this field to make the tools their for any after life. I can not do it all at this time. It will depend on the Will of the human spirit that is willing to see if this afterlife is nothing more than an extension to an out of body state.

Every thing in this post is just sticking to trying to make it happen.

As good as it might sound to have the power and tools, we can still do it the cheap version, and just use a few sensors, but just get rid of some of the ego in that science field,and get rid of any restrictions preventing me from doing it, and I would be happy.

Will you ever see a ghost during my experiments, doubtful, but you might see the cursor on a monitor behave as though a regular patient of Brain Gate is on it.

I hope that answered your question.

Tim

thaiboxerken

16th March 2008, 12:24 AM

Look under review 21

Wow.. I guess next time I want something from the government I'll write a google review about the White House. :rolleyes:

amb

16th March 2008, 01:50 AM

Wow.. I guess next time I want something from the government I'll write a google review about the White House. :rolleyes: Groveling to politicians in Government or otherwise, only works if you have lots of moola and influence with the people that matter.
Tim is living in cuckoo land with his 'Braingate'. I suspect he is afraid of death.
And this braingate business is just wishful thinking on his part.

Tim, accept it, we are mortal beings which can cease to exist in the next instant.

chillzero

21st March 2008, 07:40 AM

Posts moved to:
http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=96829

Tim4848

21st March 2008, 05:46 PM

Thank you for reading my thoughts,

Thank you once again for viewing my topic, and exceeding the number of views past 20,000 this week.

As much as I would like to teach a class about this topic on this site. Others do not want that to happen. they do not like the fact that I am capable of doing this, so in one day I have gotten 15 complaints that my free class is not on topic.

I will still post here from time to for now, but if you want to be a part of my free class, you will need to go here for now.

http://www.freewebs.com/tim4848/

I hope you get a chance to attend,

Tim

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Tim4848

21st March 2008, 11:16 PM

Tim4848

22nd March 2008, 08:04 PM

Thank you for reading my thoughts.

It is amazing to me, how some can't wait to record to the administrator, if they don't think I am communicating correctly on my topic, but when I ask questions about my topic, like how does it help any one if we don't do my idea, and they have nothing.

How does it help anyone is we don't do my idea?

As much as I know how we can do it, please explain to me why we should not do it?

I did not stutter, but I am sure waiting on the answer to that question.

I'm waiting, I'm still waiting.

If this is you, here's your sign,

"A time bandit who has something to hide."

Tim

Tim4848

23rd March 2008, 04:57 PM

Thank you for reading my thoughts,

I have this employee who works for me, that has a way of using gravity to operate a generator with out gas.

He also believes that his idea could be use with different motors like the ones cars use.

Now where can he go to get the tools he need to make his and our dreams come true?

You would think that we would be running to his house right now, and finding out more about it, but we won't.

We love to talk about all type of stuff, but we sure don't listen very good.

We assume real good.

They say that 60% of what comes out of our mouth is negative. I am not just talking about the language that we use, but how we use it.

Was it luck that he started to work for me?

Maybe it was, but I took the interest to listen to what he had to say, and that was not luck.

Some would lead you to believe that opportunities are not out there, but they truly are.

You just have to listen.

What does this have to do with my idea.

a couple of things right off the top of my head.

- One day Brain Gate might run off of this type of energy for free.

- To give you a idea how fast or slow other things just as important as my idea are doing.

Inventing is not hard, it is getting some place with it, that is hard.

Example:

On Donald Trump show "Apprentace", he had ego people. after ego people, who are focused on business, that could not get things done.

How do you expect anybody else to do it.

I don't hire people to fire people, and that is what is lacking in business today.

They are using the wrong measuring stick. A ego one.

Thank you,

Tim

amb

23rd March 2008, 11:58 PM

Cold fusion all over again hey Tim? Buddy, there's no such thing as a free lunch. The quicker you realize that the better off you'll be.
Cheers, Angelo.

Tim4848

24th March 2008, 11:26 PM

Thank you for reading my thoughts,

Maybe that is what the problem is with some not seeing this topic the way I see it.

I have it etched in my thoughts, but I have it based on how I would do it if I had the power, but I do not.

So I talk about it giving the chance to somebody who does have the power, but they lack the vision I have, so we are in a quagmire.

A paradigm quagmire

Whack01

25th March 2008, 01:02 AM

Thank you for reading my thoughts,
...

Example:

On Donald Trump show "Apprentace", he had ego people. after ego people, who are focused on business, that could not get things done.

How do you expect anybody else to do it.

I don't hire people to fire people, and that is what is lacking in business today.

They are using the wrong measuring stick. A ego one.

Thank you,

Tim

Thank you for reading my thoughts,

Maybe that is what the problem is with some not seeing this topic the way I see it.

I have it etched in my thoughts, but I have it based on how I would do it if I had the power, but I do not.

So I talk about it giving the chance to somebody who does have the power, but they lack the vision I have, so we are in a quagmire.

A paradigm quagmire

I spent 15 minutes trying to think of something to say in response to your post, then an image came to me of a rabbit balancing an eggo on its head being beaten by a yardstick, all whilst swimming in a swamp. I doubt this was your vision so I apologize for my lack of constructive criticism (as well as my lack of photoshop skills).

Tim4848, if you're paying the individual to work on the gravity engine you may wish to read up on trigonometry then head to your local library and find a book on general relativity (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_relativity) the "geometric theory of gravitation".

amb

25th March 2008, 05:03 AM

Sasha

25th March 2008, 06:38 AM

Openly discriminating against after life with no proof, should be against the law, because until you can prove that afterlife don't exist, then you are openly discriminating against them. The law was set up to provide help for the weak. And even though this minority could be there, we should respect the law and do some thing about it, when new evidence like mine has been brought forth.

Now that we all know is the right thing to do, like respect the law of this principle, because regardless if you believe me or not, we should always provide for those who might not be able to do it any other way.

What I am talking about has nothing to do with me having to provide proof, but the fact that we should not discriminate from any free avenue that might help the less fortunate.

We handicap safe all type of things, and I believe my idea is no different.

We need to help make it happen, because it is the right thing to do.

How does it help anyone if we don't do it?

_____________________________________________

How does it help anyone if we don't do it?

Please fill free to explain to me why it is better not to try my free idea?

I've read this several times now and can't seem to get my mind around what you're trying to say. You're accusing people of discriminating against the afterlife, a rather ridiculous accusation don't you think? Even if it were true, how would a member of the afterlife complain? When you say "the law was set up to provide help for the weak," who are you talking about and what law? I guess you could qualify dead people as "weak" but I don't know of any law that protects them (except for their corpses.) or why anyone would even consider it.

Your second paragraph says "respect the law of this principle." What law and what principle?

Loss Leader

25th March 2008, 07:41 AM

One day Brain Gate might run off of this type of energy for free.

Why not? An impossible invention should definitely be powered by an impossible energy source.

Hokulele

25th March 2008, 12:53 PM

Why not? An impossible invention should definitely be powered by an impossible energy source.

Especially when you are using it to do impossible things.

TjW

25th March 2008, 08:42 PM

So it should be done just before having breakfast at Milliway's.

Tim4848

26th March 2008, 09:35 PM

Thank you for reading my thoughts,

Some feel it is not possible, but they have nothing to show that they are right.

I claim if it is possible, that my idea would be the best way to do it, and that is based off of my out of body experience.

This is not rocket science. I suggest we use the best machine that we have to see if it is possible or not.

If I am wrong, I am wrong. I take full responsibility for my actions.

I suggest a follow through to what they are already doing.

I suggest that if it is possible, then it would lie in the invisible force. A place that is know to science, but has not really been explored to the point that they know everything about it.

My idea offers the potential afterlife patience an opportunity that they don't have now.

Call it what you like.

A potential back up plan

Paradigm Hope

Why not?

What is it going to hurt?

Maybe the time is right for such a possibility?

The way this country is going, why not?

A wing and a prayer

I believe that God would approve of this option.

I would imagine that atheist would like to see these results.

I would believe if you are religious you would want this to happen.

I would believe if you knew that you could not prove that it was not possible, that you would have to add value to it, as much as you can add value that it is not possible.

Example: If you really feel that it is not possible, but you also know that you can not prove that it can't be done, that you owe it to your self to give it an opportunity in your minds eye as well, because if you don't take the time to examine it from that point of view, then you are discriminating against a minority, even if that minority is nothing in your view at this point in history.

In a court of law my idea would be allowed, because it would be based on witness accounts.

Their is no witness of date, that could prove that my idea or afterlife are not real.

I understand that some see nothing, so they can't not relate to this concept, but that still does not mean the potential is not there.

If there is an inside to your inner:

Energy

Inner thoughts

Soul, then this is the best way i know for making it happen.

Afterlife energy, interacts with sensor energy, and except for what they will try and do on a monitor that will be in this room, and you should not see anything else.

Please fill free to add more if you like.

People I feel who would not want this to happen:

"People who would freak out thinking afterlife are watching them in private."

Can that problem be fixed?

"Yes!"

Things people say just to delay the possibility:

"Changes everyday, just read past strings to see what I mean."

For people out there that would just like to see it happen sooner than later, because they understand how things happen for a reason:

"Just keep viewing this topic until we starts doing the topic."

Thank you for reading my thoughts,
Tim

amb

27th March 2008, 01:30 AM

Tim for the last time. Your out of body experience may have been caused by the lack of blood in the brain, which has a calming effect and has been known to cause hallucinations to the people experiencing this phenomenon.

TjW

27th March 2008, 09:24 AM

It seems to me that Tim4848 with a working method of communicating with the dead would be just one more reason not to want to be dead.

Loss Leader

27th March 2008, 11:40 AM

In a court of law my idea would be allowed, because it would be based on witness accounts.

No, it wouldn't.

Hokulele

27th March 2008, 03:03 PM

It seems to me that Tim4848 with a working method of communicating with the dead would be just one more reason not to want to be dead.

I know it has been mentioned before, but Tim4848 may want to work out a method of communicating with the living first.

Ron_Tomkins

27th March 2008, 06:13 PM

I know it has been mentioned before, but Tim4848 may want to work out a method of communicating with the living first.

Nominated.

Tim4848

27th March 2008, 10:03 PM

No, it wouldn't.

Not even small claims court?

Tim4848

27th March 2008, 10:52 PM

Nominated.

Why would you waste the time?

We already know the machine works with humans, now we are going to do it with a date in the future.

That is the day the machine will test it's moment of truth.

A date in the future with a cross train patient of BrainGate.

24 hours after death and we know.

We know if i was right with my original idea, the one I claim is free, or we discover it with a more advance way, once we allow this type of thought to exist, just as my idea exist.

Do the math:

Trained BrainGate patients don't live for ever, so the math is easy.

If we know the day they die of natural causes, that they have 24 hours to try and make contact with the sensor.

I claim that our thoughts are inside energy, and we change form with the energy we make.

I limited my visit on this experience, because I was slowed by trying to comprehend the experience, because I only knew one thing, and that was to tag along with my inner thoughts.

Some might like to experience bungy jumping or things like that, but when you have been out of your body as I have, you can see my connections more easily.

Energy can not be made. Think about that. We can not be made.

Think about that for a while.

All these sperms are racing for the opportunity to be What?

This energy of a sperm that is racing to beat all the rest can not be made.

Think of your inner thoughts like the king of a chess game.

Protection, protection, to the point that it is boring, and once you have been there and done that with anything, why waste your time again?

I don't like reruns, once I sink it to memory that this or that is a slice of a wall that brings it all together, it would have to be something really good to stop it from happening now.

Let me explain it this way:

A BrainGate patient will get the opportunity to experience a BrainGate machine as much as policies and procedures now are in place.
they should continue doing what they are doing right now.

They do not even need to know about my idea right now.

If you like driving a car with out plates and insurance, then I am truly wrong.

We have already experienced miss opportunities with my idea. I have read of at least two patients of BrainGate had died of other reasons, than anything to do with the machine.

Now that we have some new information on how we should test my idea, then it is wrong to lead our patients down this path again with out giving them the opportunity to decide if they would be interested in trying this idea.

If my idea works, what questions of your would I have answered?

If my idea works, what claims have I made that would be right?

If my idea works, could you deal with it?

amb

28th March 2008, 01:51 AM

Judging from Tims last post, he's having a lend of us, surely.
Ever tried science fiction writing Tim?

devnull

28th March 2008, 02:18 AM

Im thinking more that his therapist told him computers would be a good outlet.

amb

28th March 2008, 04:57 AM

Scientology. Tim, I discovered where you would fit in like a glove. The church of Scientology. They will be all ears when you describe your fantastic ideas.

Loss Leader

28th March 2008, 08:04 AM

Not even small claims court?

Not even a basketball court.

Tim4848

29th March 2008, 04:00 PM

Hello,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hello

My goal is not to insult anybody intelligence, or to be politically correct all the time, but to inform you about my idea in what ever way I can until we can turn the concept into a reality.

Think about how my idea could make your life better.

You have the right to be happy!!!

Why waste your thoughts to visit this site if you could get so much more from it, like turning the idea into action.

A free back up option for you in the future. No down side only a upside.

Start it now, have it later.

You can't win if you don't play.

Option:

Do nothing, get nothing.

Do something, get something.

Thank you for reading my thoughts,

Tim

Tim4848

31st March 2008, 03:01 AM

Thank you for reading my thoughts,

I am amazed by how many people are viewing this topic now. Maybe they have always and I just did not notice it before.

I watched this guy on sixty minutes tonight that had a calling to be good at figuring out ways to have baseball numbers in your favor, like trying to understand what works best.

It's nice to watch some body in a field that has always been there, but nobody ever took the time to study it better.

They talked about how this guy use to be a night watchman at a pork and bean factory.

I don't think it matters who figures out something, but the fact that they took the time to analyze something.

I have been doing some light reading lately in all type of different fields, but I get bored so quickly.

Get to the point with simple words, not just for me, but everybody, because like it or not, an education in any field is not rocket science, and sure it is not my calling to exercises in any field, because I don't like to get involved with anything.

I can come say my piece and just walk away.

Some feel I have a ego, I do not. I have no problem with somebody if they can get my idea done.

If Hillary Clinton wanted to do it for me, I would not have a problem.

If McCain wanted to try it for a hundred years in a foreign country, that is fine too.

If Obama wanted to place me on his staff because he likes to have opportunity like me, because I am so full of it, then that could be one of his options.

I have no problem making fun of myself, because I can not show favoritism to any emotion.

I have a low ego by choice because I noticed I was more productive in thought.

I use my imagination like gadgets, and I do it in such a way, that I can imagine something, and then decide how I want to analyze it, to the point that I could re-produce it into a follow through scenario.

This way of thinking has always gotten a bad rap, because the only type of thinking we add this too, are people who premeditate something, and yes we have had a few of them over the years, but to use it on a focus topic like this one allows you an opportunity that might never have been there if somebody like me did not take the time to analyze it this way.

At first on this journey, i did not believe it my self, but little by little it started to come together, even though I have always envisioned the finish line, I never thought I would have to dive into the details as much as I have.

It must be from all those shows on TV now, that wants to know everything, not that they don't already know it, but they are so bored, they just want to hear it again.

We all have the ability to do what ever we want, but a lot of people never know what that might be. Would I rather be doing something else? Yes, but duty calls.

My Google page has all these need gadgets. I have this fortune cookie, that gives me a fortune every time I do it. While we are on that for a second, a friend once told me that you should always add "in bed." on the end of all fortune cookies.

My idea is about gadgets and fortune cookies. One day it might be possible for you to fly a ship in outer space with just your thoughts, and then a different planet in space like our, will wonder why you never stay around either.

I believe that UFOs are flown by thoughts from other planets, and while they fly through space, the ship they are in, is helping the thought to build them a new body.

Once they find our planet and look around a bit, they head back to there planet, if this was the type of planet they were looking for.

Now depending on how many chances they have to check us out over time, might be because they realize years ago that this was the best planet this direction to plant on.

They very well might have other planets as well, if in fact we do have a higher intelligence than you or me.

If in deed they have made different trips over time, then at times they might bring the ones that like to experiment on things, just like Hitler did. They might take things in a Bermuda Triangle, setting a trap.

We look to them as they are not real as well, when even Presidents, claim to see them.

Why would they want to show their self to us, when they have nothing to show.

Now are they smarter than us to be able to do this?

No, they just started sooner.

By trying my idea for free, you will get the answers to everything I claim, except maybe the growing a new body part. They might not of thought of that, because that might even be over the top for them as well.

If we actually place an effort toward being happy and working on that as our number one goal in this field, there is no limit to what is out there.

I bring all this up because I watched Larry King as he talked about UFOs on his show.

I don't like to get off topic too far, but with the results I am expecting from my idea, that these questions and a whole lot more will be answered at that time.

NASA, will begin to check into this field, just like all other fields of our Government will as well.

I heard that 50% of the people in Washington D.C. is spy's. I think I read that at a spy museum in Washington a few years back. That was a wild time back then for me, because here I am walking the streets of Washington for a convention, and that was the same time that guy and the kid was shooting all those people.

I was amazed by all the people that were living on the street. I heard that some of them were actually very rich. I saw one that had a chess board, and had books about chess. I got the feeling that a lot of them loved to analyze, because they seamed to be in deep thought, and not acting like they were in need of anything at the time, other than to be left alone. I did meet this kid, who showed me where is place on the side walk was, and why he picked the place he did. He also helped me around, and telling me about all the different places, and it was not a second thought to tip him, because he was so helpful.

Think of my idea as a tip, a chance to take the next step in change. You can do it. By us being the ones to do it first, gives us a chance to bail everybody out at the same time, and make comfort zone adjustments for the new opportunity. Like it or not, but the game we are playing now is so out dated that all three candidates left in this race don't have a clue, because they don't use me as an option, not because I want power, but because I am bored.

Believe it or not, but I actually could do even better with this idea if I was pushed into it more.

Anyway going back to where I went off of topic. I have a little note pad on my Goggle page, and I am going to start to use that toward excelling this topic toward completion.

I understand the only thing preventing my free idea from happening is not the fact that you don't see it actually happening like I suggest, but the fact that you have not associated an effort to go down this road yet. I suggest you take it one day at a time after we put my idea in place.

Afterlife evolution

Tear down that wall!

Give them a chance, from all that we know to be true.

If God actually gave us anything, as so many religious voters know he has, then they should also noticed if they are true to their belief, that Gad gave them something else.

a clue that is as true back then as it is now.

I don't read the bible, but think about this.

Like maybe Jesus was trying to tell you something when he could show you where he will now be at. Maybe he was the first person from our planet into this invisible force.

I would think that would bring new meaning in God We Trust.

He was telling you to trust him, that this is where he is at. Can he make conference calls through feeling to every after life that we might perceive as strange, but that is only our own ignorance in something that we have not taken the time to analyze. Do you think I enjoy going on and on trying to explain to you that this idea is i your best interest, as we all learn as we go.

Sure I could go back and make my string short and non productive, but what do we learn from that. Sure I could do a spell check on my thread, because that is the right thing to do, but where are we at with this idea.

I found at least a dozen threads today that could win my idea in Court, and I will be more than glad to get them for you if you like, but what does that get us, I say this you say that, or we try my idea, because regardless if I suggest it, or everybody suggest it. It will answer this question.

It will answer either we can do it, or we can not in the time period I suggest.

I wonder what that guy on sixty minutes would give my odds.

Thank you for reading my thoughts, imagination, passion, and vision.

Tim Brewer

indeed a special energy. one that could resurrect from the dead, to allow you an opportunity to see where he is at.

and to think the first book I ever read was the catcher and the rye.

TjW

31st March 2008, 08:25 AM

Is that the one about an alcoholic baseball player?

Tim4848

31st March 2008, 12:28 PM

Is that the one about an alcoholic baseball player?

Don't think so, but it has been a long time.

Tim4848

31st March 2008, 06:04 PM

Thank you for reading my thoughts,

I think I am getting addictive to playing pogo chess while I wait for answers to my questions.

My goal is to make a video showing how it all plays out.

I will then post it on the Internet.

Would you like to see something like that?

I will try and make the tape as close to what I feel needs to happen, so the idea will work.

I feel I already explain it in print now, but I will be more than glad to make a cheap video on it as well.

My one son video tapes tornado's, I will ask him the next time he is in town if he will help me with that.

What ever I can do to speed this bucket idea of mine along, and then you can let me know what you thought of that as well.

My video will be free as well.

What else can I do to make you happy?

I am also working on a petition on care about my idea as well.

i am a big believer in trying a hundred different things, and finding some of them that work. If they don't work, at least we know now, but to do nothing, only gets you nothing results, and sense we all decided this idea would be worth whiled if we could do it, then it is time to begin trying different preliminary things to test the waters for this possibility.

I do not have the time to wait until the cows come home on this concept, we need to take it to the next level sooner than later.

How do you feel about it?

Can back ground radiation be measured, like they measure Brain Gate patients?

Can a orb communicate like a Brain Gate patient does?

Can the option be measured in machine language?

We have airports for planes to potentially land, and now we will have a place for potential afterlife to go as well.

Opportunity like this helps is good, it allows us all to grow in different ways never thought about before, but just as doable as what we are doing now, except it will lower crime, create new jobs, connect families closer together, protect our borders, lower the cost of gas, and so many different things.

Why do I go on right now about my idea?

Because I have the time now, tomorrow might not be the case.

Thank you for reading my thoughts, and I guess I will go back to playing chess again.

Tim

Little 10 Toes

1st April 2008, 10:21 PM

Energy can not be made. Think about that. We can not be made.

Please explain how your parents made you. Please explain how your children were made.

I watched this guy on sixty minutes tonight ...

Is that the one about an alcoholic baseball player?

Don't think so, but it has been a long time.
15 hours and 3 minutes between your two posts and you don't think so because, "it's been a long time". :rolleyes: I wonder what else, along with the passage of time, gets distorted around you.

I can come say my piece and just walk away. You've been saying your pieces [sic] for several pages. Will you now follow through?

amb

2nd April 2008, 02:43 AM

Little 10 Toes. You are on a mission to nowhere with Tim.
Welcome to his world.

Tim4848

2nd April 2008, 08:07 PM

Little 10 Toes. You are on a mission to nowhere with Tim.
Welcome to his world.

Very well put ambnp;3583003!!!

Tim4848

2nd April 2008, 10:35 PM

Thank you for reading my thoughts in Tim's world,

How I see my video looking this summer:

I am talking to a BrainGate patient. Informing them about my idea.

One of them seam to like the idea.

I offer to do it for free, but instead I just see more and more red tape going up.

I then lay down and dream exactly how we can do it with out the red tape.

When I wake up this video is on the Internet for free!:)

Tim4848

14th April 2008, 01:16 PM

My written video

I'm sitting with a patient of BrainGate and talking to them about my idea, and after begging for several hours, they say yes.

We then ask the staff of Braingate, after the help of the BrainGate patient help in the begging as well, they said yes. That part was a lot of flips on the calendar, but it was a go as a well.

Throw in some Rocky music, and then we work on their normal training and then we get to the day of actually measuring and everything is a GO!!!

It makes CNN, and all the rest as well.

People are talking about it at water coolers, church, viewing, and funerals as well, because we have to keep up with reality as we now know it might be possible just like 911, or hurricane Katrina.

A patient is the true star of the show, just like you are the true character in your show.

You decide what you want, and then you make it happen.

This video will paint a picture where the patient will talk his way through their out of body experience, just like those talking animals you are use to in the movies.

Example:

I must be out of my body just like Tim said might happen. I guess I better make the best of what I have to work with now.

I will be using my one son who like too film tornadoes now. He has probably video taped over a hundred video's of tornado's.

I once called him on his birthday, and he was inside a volcano some where.

Yes, he is the next chuck Yeager for this part.

My one daughter will be part of the staff. She would of qualified for American Idol next year, but I heard Simon is not going to have the show anymore.

I will start out in the video as a little Rudi, or Rocky, being told no over and over until an unexpected event happened. Some big name person had an out of body experience and could see the value in the crazy idea, and we were off to the races, because this investor wanted results, and wanted them now. Not that they would force the topic or the results sooner. They just want to know.

Plain and simple:

Just want to know!

Sounds like a good reason to do anything that is worth doing right.

Science sometimes worry more about what is inside a black hole more than they wonder what is inside the invisible force.

Our patient video star will be going into the invisible force, as a being inside energy.

Afterlife energy is invisible, and by having that option, it is capable to see invisible in space, just by being in that space. A constance to all probability.

In other words you will be the fallen branch in the Forrest, and you will hear the energy friction as you move around, just on a open plain that you experience now with your inner thoughts.

Now do people have any experience in this field. No, that has to be a Pleasant ville updated movie, but what color will they be this time.

A 3-d green matrix background drop, as we all start the video.

Maybe I can do something with green pop cans or something.

Most of the video I am covered in red tape, until we pull the last one off my hairy skin.

What music can you play to that?

and then we have to see how many hits the video will get.

That will be the opening for the video as well. The beginning of the video has to have a starting point, so why not make it where the video is a big hit on the Internet.

We could start the video that it was not a big hit, but that is just a grain of sand, and love is all that matters after all, so let's move on.

Maybe I'm crazy, maybe you are crazy, maybe we are all crazy, and sure people go to the streams and pan for small amounts of gold, looking for something that is bigger than any one of us, and my idea might just be the biggest gold fine in a long time, or it could be a good time to get us all educated on all levels of the possibility and see where we are at, so people like you and I, can decide.

Who has the patent on total death?

Who decides my idea will not work?

Who is this grim reaper?

All red tape show your self

Now we could stop the movie at a point where it don't work. I have no problem with that.

Do you believe it will ever end there, regardless if I died today?

My thoughts will be read by million of people over the years and the right type of video should take it's allotted amount of time as well.

One day my idea will be played out in all type of bed time stories for children and they begin to understand how we want it to play out in our world.

The Jacob latter song, country.

Dad did not want his rich girl around some poor white trash, when she could have so much better. After she had her baby, then dad saw it from a whole new light.

Energy, it is who we are, and I hope my video, as crazy Robin Williams as it can get, with out every other mentor movie I remember using as my up bringing, we only be the beginning into a positive possibility that has never been explored the way it should. I deal in positive results, not that I am always positive myself, and that is the value I bring to this topic. I paint free as I go and you decide ny your views if it is worth me doing that or not.

I feel some of you are really interested in this field for what ever reasons that are better than mine, and you have the ability to take it to the next level in a way that works for you, be it media, or in your own writing, and I have no problem with that. i encourage you to take this topic any direction you would like, just as long it is in good taste, and it helps others in ways that they don't understand yet.

Believe me, believe me, believe me, if my free idea works, you are going to be better off. That is a constance. Regardless what anybody has ever told you. You will be better off.

Positive better off, energy positive better off, in ways that you could only imagine better off. Filthy rich better off.

Example:

You have value now based on your time.

Everything you do takes time, and you decide what time has it's value to you.

Example:
Playing chess has value to me. I love playing other people, the interaction of thought.
I enjoy it when they beat me, I hate it when I beat my self.

Note. or side bar: I have no value in this topic, all I am offering my services to inform you that I can offer my services even more to the point that we make it happen.

The bottom line is we need to decide what we want to do with this possibility. if it is being offered by me so many different ways, or somebody else. Do we just sit on the possibility as though it has not ever been presented and just hope that it goes away.

I always like to look at my "A" list of future concerns, and this idea tops all of them, because if did not make it a priority, to the point that we could mass produce them after it did work, then we are opening the door for a different country to be able to use this type of science to help smuggle bad things into our country, that 911 would look like two birthday candles to the cake that this ignorance could present itself, now that is just my "A" list, and to think Einstein did not even think his formula could be use for such possibilities, and here I am telling you that mine can, and to think we gave China one of these machines, and you can bet I William have that in the video.

How can I make a video about this topic?

This topic is so big, and I bring a free key to this big world we live in, and I have learned alot walking down this yellow brick road, like having the mind set that you are going down, effects your inner thoughts because they do not want you in pain, so it is always going to bring you up, and as it uses it's energy to make me better, i look for new ways to make it do it again.

If you do everything right, you have nothing to worry about, and I honesty believe that this free key idea of mine is a National Treasure right now, because you don't know, and you will never know, as long as you don't want to get off the rocks of life and do something about it.

It's easy to be right. it is easy to be wrong, and time goes on, and on and on, every second, and who controls the time bandits of life, the one who decide who makes a difference and who don't.

I would love to go on, but I have to go pay my taxes.

Pay for that 76 billion dollar research and development bill they have for this year alone.

I understand that life is like monopoly, and once you start down that road, you are in a structure that has rules. and I understand that rules can be changed, and that is one part of the video, fighting for our rights. A chance to see if family members are there, or was medium Lisa Williams just a very sick person.

We need to know.

I come from a family that I am proud of, and my family is proud that I am focus on this possibility and they wish me the best.

I go on about me, in different ways, because some of you want me to have more value, but to save time in the future, my idea could be done by any one of you, if given the tools so I really don't play a big factor in this result, other than to try and use different thoughts to express what it might be about to you.

Am I a Rush Limbaugh, Clark Howard, type of person, just throwing out free advice, that could be done by anybody, if they took the time to see it from my side.

I'm actually everywhere.

That is the way I look at everything, if I can comprehend it, I can place it anywhere on this Earth.

Take the map links and connect anything that you can comprehend anywhere.

The structure of open ended thinking always leaves box scores that are never complete, and that is why we pursue toward something new everyday on everyday is new reality day. a report card of any information that we decide we need to get, and that can be place everywhere as well.

Thank you for reading my thoughts,

Tim

Tim4848

15th April 2008, 05:27 PM

Thank you for reading my thoughts,

Am I Murphy law?

Am I something that is expected to happen at this time in history from a state that has a long history of inventors?

Maybe, or have they just helped in my thought process, I really don't know.

Thomas A. Edison was born in Ohio

Dayton is the home of the Wright Brothers, and while we are on that. Look up at any airplane and you will see it flying on the invisible.

Sure we know what makes every plane fly, but they are still flying on invisible.

I would imagine that birds played a part in people believing we could fly on invisible to begin with, because that was the only thing we prob-ally knew at the time that could do it.

I believe 800 million people having an out of body experience at some point in their life is a lot of birds. Out of body experiences has prob ally been around as long as birds, and they seam to be holding their own with birds in the future.

If air was just air, my idea could not work like the airplane, but that is not the case, so it should work better than the airplane. Our goal is to focus on setting up people to win, not by believing we have all the answers to things we don't know about, but what can we do to make it happen.

I could unload every motivational book ever made that points toward us making this free idea work, but that would be a waste of time at this time.

All or nothing, that is where we have been with this topic so long, with the emotional side leaning toward nothing, but that is not right when one of our country greatest inventors from Ohio Thomas A. Edison believed it was possible, and we sure got some good tools now to use to try his thought on this field of inventions, where the common sense of it is out there so plain to see.

I would believe that the average person who gets on an airplane, even know how they fly it on the invisible, but they sure do know how to get on and off it.

Afterlife is invisible to us, as much as it is to the out of body person.

The only something there is the energy. A mineral that provides our inner thought all it needs too take us on our next adventure.

Quick review of the math:

Imagine for a moment that your thoughts were stuck on one thought, and it was in your head like a bubble, gradually getting bigger as I continue to AL you to keep imaging that thought, what ever it might be. In reality you can not do that, because just by reading my words, your mind is changing thoughts, but let's get back to that Bible thought anyway.

That one thought is one, and it has a right and a left to it, just as everything else does.

We are now turning that one thought into a baby block. We decided that we wanted to train somebody on this thought sometime in the past, because we wasted our time on it, so it must be important, and we don't like to read the same stuff twice, so we decided to past it down as education. Now we also have to imagine that somebody in the future might want to review this baby block thought anywhere in space as we know it, so unless they are close to dangerous places like around a volcano, or something, this one baby block will be there for them to check out.

Now we could multiply this building block thought to the point that we have a copy of that same building block covering every atom space that we can imagine is there.

That is what value we can place on any thought that has been recorded on anything on this Earth, if we elect to do that, but it would be a waste of time to produce such a thought, but to visualize like this with anything that you do see that might have value, is taking advantage of every thought you behold everyday of your life, and it is done in the invisible as well.

Imagine this:

Some how some way, we have multiplied humans in our minds to the point that every atom in space is filled with humans, and all those thoughts pressed up against each other wondering what they are going to do, because this is not a good visualization to what options they would like, but that just might be the life of an invisible out of body afterlife, and I just might be the kid who figured it out, just like the story I heard about a kid watching this problem about a truck being stuck under a train bridge. After they checked it out, they could not figure out how to move it, until the kid said, why don't you take the air out of the tires.

This kid was not qualified to work for the city, but he saw something that they could not see. The invisible thought.

If you believe in BrainGate, then if you were put in a position to use the machine, your odds of being able to use it correctly, should be good in my opinion.

Now on the same hand, if you did not want it to work, you could behave in such a way, that it will not work.

You have to want it, to get it to work.

Getting back to your thought what ever it was. When the thought happens, it is like invisible ripples causing friction against other space, that can be measured, and it can be measured anywhere, just like the building block.

Everything you can imagine can be measured, you just have to decide if you want to measure it.

Try and decide below which idea looks like it is our best chance to communicate with afterlife.

(1) nothing, just keep making fun of the idea.

(1) Ask your religion, if any past religious figures like Jesus, really had a out of body experience like a resurrection. How did he do it? How could he do it? Did he speak? Was he really fully clothes?, if he did that yesterday, would you try and reach him back with Tim's idea with BrainGate. I mean if it happen yesterday, or billion of years ago, we still should be able do it.

If we are connected to God, and he is able to do it, or he has shown that he can provide it, then we are going in the right direction.

Just because they have had to weight, is fine now, but the longer we continue to doubt such a possibility, and I have to provide more than the kid did with the ego deflating thing, should show you something. (just reading my thoughts, and supporting me with your views to the point that someone is going to take notice)

Thank you for reading my thoughts.

Tim

Tim4848

15th April 2008, 10:05 PM

Don't under estimate this space all around you filled with the invisible force. It is not just air, it contains an energy that can be use by everybody.

We learn new ways to use it everyday. This energy does not act the way Einstein would like it to act. Everything with his theory made sense until he got down to the atom. They did not act the way they should.

I would say that some of them behaved as one would behave in that situation, and no one person at the time could have more reason than to attract this type of audience. Out of body afterlife hoping that he would help in some way with this type of communication, or they just wanted to hang around a famous man.
Who knows, but if he was studding that type of area of science, I would think some out of body afterlife might take notice, it is just too bad that Einstein could not see it. Do you ever thought he might be studding some form of our afterlife. I would be willing to bet, the idea was never considered, and if it was, decided against it for either his religion, or just peer pressure in general.

With his claim on how atoms behaved, to explain it so closely to human behavior with out saying it, or to listen to science talk about when you look at things that are so small and how they almost look like they are alive, and just watching how fast magnets can multiply in no time at all, with hardly anything to begin with is just breath taking.

What is the difference between us and the speed of light? Friction

We carry more friction with our weight, but that is the only difference.

Think of the afterlife like that cell phone company Version, where they have all those employees following around all their customers.

For 24 hours after the death of this trained patient we will check for value to my possibility, and at no other time if that is what you wish.

I can pack for Boston and help with this idea any time they give the word. I would not have a problem if they would like to invite me their and explain me why their machine would not work.

I think we should get somebody to make a documentary why it could not work. I have never seen one, at least not one that comes close to my idea.

We are not talking toasters. I heard the ghost hunters, TAPS, I think their name is, was over at Wright Pat checking on ghost or little green men. they should give me their advise on this possibility.

Is their not one person out their some where who would reply to my topic in support of the idea.

You could give replies like this:

(1) I just can't believe it could be possible

(2) I believe there is afterlife, but I don't think we will ever have the technology to make it happen.

(3) I just read your threads because you are crazy.

(4) I believe my life is that of one on a conveyor belt heading toward the end of my belt, and as U look to a belt beside me, I hear you and wonder if this is an option I can use when my mortal belt ends. I no we did not come with instructions, and I know we need to head toward something that is meaningful, and this just might be it. Everything happens for a reason, and even though you are Ore the top at times, you do bring up some good points from time to time, and I just naturally likely to root for the underdog, so you get my vote.

(5) I am still trying to figure out the whole building block thing. You lost me at reading your thoughts. Now what if all atoms got turned into building blocks, would our inner thoughts live in these building blocks? Why do I get the feeling that I don't take up a lot of building blocks in the afterlife of space.

How in the past have we actually tried to talk to these building blocks that might be floating over some of us right now?

Surely if there was afterlife, and they have an education, they would of figured out a way to communicate back with us by now.

How?

How are they going to do it with what they have to work with?

the key is to allow them to let us read their friction in what they are trying to tell us. Maybe a modification to BrainGate, but just like some people know how to modify every thing on /Earth right now, it should not be a problem, but that can only happen if we start focusing on it.

Out of body afterlife needs a tool that they can use just for this purpose, not a toaster. A machine design to read thoughts.

What option looks better on Lets Make a Deal

Behind door number one, it is medium Lisa Williams. She claims for a price, she can communicate to your afterlife for a fee. People are running to get tickets to see her. So if she is the real deal, then if for some reason one of your relatives have money, you might get a chance to bond with her, if she is still around after you, who knows on that.

Behind door number two, we have ghost hunters trying to track you down in that situation, so they can tell you if you left a cold place in space, or they might of saw your orb. You don't really get much bang for your buck there, even if they are lucky to find you.

I saw one show where one of them got knocked down by something, like the out of body after life was upset that this is all they get, and they were expecting so much more.

Door number three is what ever you want to believe afterlife is or is not.

Door number four is my free idea on cross training BrainGate patients that we already have and seeing if they can make it happen or not 24 hours after their death of natural causes.

More than eighty percent of Americans believe their is some type of afterlife, and this was before I said a word about this topic.

We have what it takes to make it happen right or wrong, so why not do it, if it is free, and why not do it if it is the right thing to do.

If their is a possibility, then their might be a waym but we will never know if we don't act on the possibility, because a mind is a terrible thing to waste.

If I am wrong, I'm wrong, and maybe one of those other doors are a better option.

Do something and be wrong, and get made fun of, or do nothing, and get nothing. What direction would you go?

Who's got my back on this one?

Do we need evidence first, or should we create it with patients at the moment of contact with the possibility?

They say that nobody has ever come back from the dead yet, and I ask the question of how can we really KNOW, IF WE HAVE NOT GIVEN THEM THE TOOLS THEY NEED TO MAKE IT HAPPEN.

We have gotten very good giving some people tools they need for their conditions, and they work very good with humans, if it is artificial limbs, pace makers and everything else you can think of, from ear piece, to glasses, to a device that helps you talk.

My idea is just an extension to all the other stuff we are already doing. A follow through idea on how it might work, with out ever having the chance to do it.

Quick review:

Tim is sure trying to sell this idea real bad. Why is that?

If Tim would answer this question or this question, I guess it don't really matter, because I don't really care one way or the other, or I would of done something by now.

I just need somebody to explain to me how I can fix my profile so I don't have to follow this topic anymore, because he is just going round and round again, because he ain't got nothing, what a sad little man.

Thank you for reading my thoughts,
Tim

amb

16th April 2008, 02:43 AM

Tim, do you not see that no one is responding to your thoughts?
[couldn't resist]

Tim4848

18th April 2008, 10:12 PM

Tim, do you not see that no one is responding to your thoughts?
[couldn't resist]

Good question:

I was listening to the Prime Minister of Great Britain on TV today, as he told this story.

This man was in harms way, because there was this big flood coming toward where he lived. They sent a car for him, but he turned it away because he felt his God would take care of him. As the water got higher, they sent a boat for him, but he turned that away as well. As the water continue to rise, they finally sent a Helicopter for him, but he refuse that as well.

After he died, the man asked his God why he did not do anything to help him.

His God said this.

"I sent you a car, boat, and a helicopter."

I am no different than the person who drove the car, boat, or helicopter in the story, even if you don't know it yet.

In this world, you might feel that I am a fool to try so hard for this idea, but in the afterlife, you might feel I did not try hard enough.

Thank you for reading my thoughts,

Tim

amb

20th April 2008, 03:15 AM

That's like the fellow who prayed to god for a win in the lotto.
Every week he would pray,''god please let me win the lottery.''
Eventualy a great booming voice coming from above tells the man, ''you've been asking me to let you win the lottery, how about meeting me half way, how about buying a lottery ticket.''

An afterlife is human wishful thinking. Out of 100% the chance of one is less than .001%.

Tim4848

20th April 2008, 02:44 PM

That's like the fellow who prayed to god for a win in the lotto.
Every week he would pray,''god please let me win the lottery.''
Eventually a great booming voice coming from above tells the man, ''you've been asking me to let you win the lottery, how about meeting me half way, how about buying a lottery ticket.''

An afterlife is human wishful thinking. Out of 100% the chance of one is less than .001%.

Funny you say that, because I just started analyzing the Ohio pick 3 yesterday. After spending all night making charts, I picked the number for today's mid day number. Too bad I stayed up all night doing it, because I did not get up in time to go play it.

The number was 426. for those of you that are interested in that kind of stuff, just let me know. My goal one day is to hit a number straight for one hundred dollars. 100 x 500= A lot of time to focus more on this topic.

Three other people I know has been trying to get me to do this for quite some time, so last night I got the ball rolling in that area.

So yes you are right, if you don't play, regardless what you think or feel. You will not win.

Now back to my topic:

Where do you get your numbers from? .001

What is that based on so I can analyze that as well.

Thank you,
Tim

amb

21st April 2008, 05:13 AM

Tim4848

21st April 2008, 05:27 PM

O.K, I'll try to be clearer. The chance of there been an afterlife is zilch.
Lets try something different. Imagine a 24 hour clock as the history of this planet, the chance of there been an afterlife at the point of death is 1 second left before midnight.

Using the same clock as the age of the earth. homo sapiens has been here around the same time; 1 second before midnight. Using that clock makes it clear that this planet was not designed with us in mind. In fact the dinosaurs were here for around 20 million years which if that clock is used, at least they've been here around 10 minutes before midnight.

Thank you for reading these thoughts:

You bring up some good points, for why I am here to begin with.

I am the .oo1.

Because I can measure my self in this field, just like any other field out there, and we can get into the C.S.I. of that until the day I die of unhealthy life styles, and I have a lot to say today, because of different thoughts that come to me, but first I would like to talk more about my way of analyzing the pick 3 first, because in a round about way, it plays into this topic.

Like a branch off a tree, just like medium Lisa Williams part with this topic in the past, and some people are still talking on that link. U wish I had the time to check that out, but every body wans a piece of me, and everything takes it's allotted amount of time.

Example: I want to give you my numbers for the pick 3 in Ohio, before they actually do it.

This will help to show you that I can plan for the future.

To save time before the drawing, I will give you a group of numbers, and then explain more about it after the drawing.

Example:

the first number of the pick 3 will be

1111111111
or
0000000000
or
4444444444

The middle number will be:

00000000000
or
22222222222
4

The end number will be:

222222222
or
777777777
or
444444444
or
000000000
or
666666666

Now some might feel that I did not pick the number.

If I do or if I don't, I have put the future into a situation where you can make options from it.

My idea with BrainGate is just the beginning to what we can do to get the results we want.

My idea for picking the lottery is real easy, wont's you are explained, but we can do that after the drawing.

My time here in Ohio is 7:04pm.

The pick three drawing is at 7:30pm

I will give you the link to their result site for numbers, but if you want to do it your self, you know how to do it.

Here is my favorite numbers. Ones that a poor person could appreciate.

A dollar bet straight wins you $500.00, before taxes. Invest wisely!

Last two days have been odd numbers,
One has not come in for a long time, could be due

My goal is to end this post so it can be recorded before 7:30Pm 4/21/2008

Here is a way to look at it.

zero and 4 would be the natural way for the first number to go.

the number one, would be an odd ball in that, but quite possible.

The second number is two or four, and all the other numbers in this field of horses are running about the same, and we can't afford everything, and still turn a profit.

Even though I am not actually betting today, I just want you to feel the thought process.

Second column two is the natural way the number should go, and zero could be the spoiler.

Third column is a wide open field, with every number having it's own story, and I will just throw something out there.

If you want a even number again in this section of the pick three number, then you have a lot to choose from.

zero, two, four, and six, the only odd number we can afford is seven.

My cheapest pick for a dollar

107

Thank you for these preliminary thoughts of mine on something that is going to happen with results just like my idea will be some day.

Tim

Tim4848

21st April 2008, 05:51 PM

Thank you for reading my thoughts,

Here is the link to the Ohio state Lottery result site, a place where you can compare my notes, at this point in my topic.

I will explain how it all comes together in my next post.

http://www.ohiolottery.com/games/picks/pick3.aspx

I have not looked at the results of my prediction yet for the Poors man way of having to analyze a possibility, but time will tell on that.

My actual goal is to go over a lot of thoughts I have been having, and I just noticed it was getting close to the drawing, so I threw something together, and figured we can build off of that later, and if people do get into this Stuff as well, We can always add a link for gambling if you like.

Maybe I have some viewers who should open up to a gambling back up plan, because the things I could talk about that field could be use in any state lottery.

As I said, I have not had the time , or do I want to know how I did in the lottery yet, just because I want us to stay in the past for a while, and It has nothing to do with my result, regardless at this point if you do know what the answer is.

Please fill free to check it out if you like, and you might have a different way of thinking as you read other stuff I will be saying tonight, as my spare time permits.

Tim

Tim4848

21st April 2008, 06:07 PM

Thank you for reading my thoughts,

Throw that last idea out the window, my wife just informed me I only got one of the numbers right.

You know, the bowling theory. You knock down nine pins, but they remind you that you left one.

To make my idea work about this topic, we only need one.

I will be back,

Tim

Tim4848

21st April 2008, 06:31 PM

Thank you for reading my thoughts,

There Is a lot I would like to go over today, and I hope it helps you with understanding this topic better.

At this point in history we do not know if it is possible or not to communicate with potential out of body afterlife, and all we really have in this field at this point is me.

I do not say this with ego, because I do not think that way, regardless how today's pick 3 lottery would turn out.

I did not want to know the out come, because if I did pick it today, it might cause me naturally to have an ego, and I did not want it to be the case.

You can find anybody who might pick the pick 3, and have a theory on why they feel it will turn out one way or another, but how many people do you know that has a way for communicating with the dead?

I use the pick 3 as a measuring stick to hone my senses, to what is a right direction or wrong direction for me personally. Just like analyzing chess, or 8-ball.

I studied 8-ball a lot, chess a little, but afterlife communication was a joint effort between my inner thoughts and me.

In the pick three, I can make a good guess based on past results from the lottery, but I have no inside information on the results.

With my idea on how we can communicate with potential out of body afterlife, is a prediction that they will be at a set point at a set time, base on the fact that they are there.

Now if that is not the fact, then my idea will not work. I can not be more plain than that.

Lottery is guessing at numbers, while using the lowest amount of money as possible to get the best return.

Afterlife communication is putting a plan in place that is free, except for a few hours in the future.

I will be back, supper time.

Tim

Tim4848

21st April 2008, 07:11 PM

Thank you for reading my thoughts,

Am I normal?

I like to think so, but the way i think makes me wonder.

I have always made it a point in my life to learn from other people mistakes.

I would like to think that is normal.

I like to learn things that makes me better, i would like to think that is normal.

Now when it comes to this topic, I see it one way, and others see it another.

Who gets to claim they are normal in this field?

I was reading a book the other day and this is what it said:

Book: Practical Guide to Creative Visualization

Prov en Techniques to Shape Your Destiny

Denning & Phillips

I got it at the Library

If you get a chance, check it out.

Also while you are at the library check this book out as well.

Breakthrough Intuition:

written by Rosemary Ellen Guiley

I will be talking about some of the stuff from these books hopefully later, but now I have to go pick my daughter up from play practice.

Please fill free if you would like to post, but I do hope to cover a lot of stuff today later.

Tim

Tim4848

21st April 2008, 10:02 PM

Thank you for reading my thoughts,

Building value to any thought, depending on the thoughts.

Example:

a man believes one night that a space ship will fly across his back yard one night. So he has made a not to be up on that night to see it happen.

He has placed so much value on this thought, he has gone out and bought the best film equipment money can buy for such an event.

He tells everybody he can on the Internet, and they argue that it can not happen, but he saids it will all the way up to the day it is suppose to happen.

His inner thoughts tell him that this is the day.

What did it hurt?

I have a friend at work who saids his pick 3 numbers always come in on the day he decides not to play it. He even saids some of these numbers come to him while he is a sleep.

Does he have a gambling problem?

Should he give his numbers more value?

My idea is about a curtain day, one that can only be determined by the death of a trained patient in the field of communicating with their thoughts.

Will it be in my back yard? No

It will be in the present of people who are use to working with this type of training.

I will be watching like everybody else who is interested in this field. Looking for energy thought measurable contact. A cold case that has been going on since the beginning of time. all the way back to the dinosaur and any thing else with energy thought.

Imagine a world where all the air space is filled with invisible blank CD space, except for one CD. The .001 CD.

You do not know it has information on it, because you can not see it.

If this CD wanted to be heard, like an ever changing CD, like our thoughts are right now, then it will need the help of us, by estimating that it could be possible, and setting up a time and place to find out.

We know that pie is pie, and that a circle can go on for ever in theory, but we can not do that with this CD idea, because up to this point we can only see it from one perspective, not that it is not possible, but that is all we can see.

What is the C.S.I. of this idea.

Where could potential out of body after life be at?

Space, the air that you see. The invisible force, atoms, the inside of energy it self. The force that can't be destroyed.

These are all good answers for any C.S. I. investigation because it is true, and as sound as the ground under your feet.

Now can the future potential out of body afterlife back up these claims, that is the true question.

At this point in history no one has ever been asked to do that before.

Will this be luck like picking the pick 3 for example?

No, because we have potential inside information; something we do not have with the pick 3.

How is the pick three like my topic?

Probably in a lot of different ways, but here is what I think.

In the pick 3, there is only one thousand different numbers. If you actually pick energy one of these numbers every day, you would win, but your pay out from the state would be at a loss, but you could pick the number.

That makes your options better, because you know who the players are a head of time, and depending what value you place on those thousand numbers can determine the out come.

Example: You like to be right in everything you do, and you have the money to play every day, so you always have a winning ticket to show all your friends. That could be one class of people, or you could be like me, and you try and find the cheapest way to do it, with out having to spend a lot of money.

In the potential out of body field. There might be billion of numbers to deal with, basing it on everything that has energy thought, but we are only counting on one trained patient to make it happen. Now if we want to raise our odds, over time we could train a thousand patients to try this idea, and all the modification we could do to help our chances in that field, but for now, we will also use the cheep way as well, because it is easier to keep it in perspective that way.

Spending .001 on a point .001 idea is fine with me.

What does it hurt?

Nothing

Gambling is harder on you than my idea, especially if you have a problem with gambling, or you lose a lot.

I made a prediction today, but I did not bet, and you will see as I try my idea with this pick 3 that I will have some good days, and some could write it up to luck and they are right, because most things that goes on off this Earth is luck.

I have always felt that I am lucky, must go with that positive stuff I'm into or something.

If I told you today that I could pick a number from one to ten, then I did that in the pick 3 today. Now if you review the results even more, you will see that I was only able to do it one out of three times. That does not sound good, but please remember that this was my first try at it, and it is not based at this time on my intuition ability.

Today it was based on hot numbers, cold numbers, and expensive numbers.

Expensive numbers are the ones we can not afford to play, like all thousand numbers, or a group of ones that fall in a field of numbers that would cost a lot of money to play. Not that every number is important, but we can't play them all on a short Clark Howard budget.

Lets examine the number that came in.

901

I should of had the 9 in my equation as a hot number, since it has come in three times since I started doing my analyzing, but to save money, I back it out of my equation.

The 0 I hit, and yes it is a very hot number, coming in five times already in my equation.

Now number one was a number that fell in the expensive numbers.

It was not a cold number or a hot number, just one in a group that is now a little warmer in the equation than it was yesterday, and now we can add more value to it.

If every person was required to invest a dollar everyday in the pick 3. How would your value to this change.

Would you like to get more bank out of it or not?

Would it get as big a fantasy sports?

Would it have it's own time, just like the business channels?

Am I saying it is coming?

No, but it is something to do, regardless if you actually gamble or not.

It is like me when I go Deer hunting. I don't take a gun, I take a camera.

The only shooting I am doing is the visual one.

What is a hot number?

Example:

Imagine today is the first time we ever played the pick three, and we knew nothing about the pick three. To keep this simple, we will call it the pick one.

What ever number comes into day is a hot number.

The result of the game, creates a hot number everyday, now how well that number creates results will determine that hot number value.

If we look at the results in the first column of the Ohio pick 3 or one, we would see in the last ten games, the four is hot, coming in 4 times.

I will be back, hopefully today, because I got so much to go over.

Tim

Gravy

22nd April 2008, 03:51 AM

At this point in history we do not know if it is possible or not to communicate with potential out of body afterlife, and all we really have in this field at this point is me.Many people have studied the claims of so-called mediums, channelers and clairvoyants. You may want to look into the work of one James Randi in this field.

Am I normal?

I like to think so, but the way i think makes me wonder.It's good that it makes you wonder. It is very disturbing reading your long lists of disconnected fantasy themes expressed in sentence fragments. Simply put, you are spewing nonsense.

Don't concern yourself with being normal, whatever that is. Concern yourself with rationality, clear communication, and sanity.

amb

22nd April 2008, 05:14 AM

A visit to a mental clinic would also be very helpful, if only to check your mental capacity. I'm not inferring anything, just that the line between a genius and a mental patient is indeed very fine.

KarlG

22nd April 2008, 05:49 AM

Are all Tim's posts from some random word jumbler type thing??

Tim4848

22nd April 2008, 05:26 PM

Thank you for reading my thoughts,

My Ohio pick 3 number this evening on 4/22/2008 at 7:26 PM is 100. This is taking the .001 and turning it around. I did place a dollar on this one.

I will be back after the drawing to go over the stuff I did not have time to go over yesterday.

I will be back,
Tim

Tim4848

22nd April 2008, 09:27 PM

Thank you for reading my thoughts,

Everything in life takes it's allotted amount of time, and my life is no different.

I am going to have to wait until another day this week to try and cover all the stuff I want to cover.

Thank you,

Tim

amb

23rd April 2008, 03:39 AM

Are all Tim's posts from some random word jumbler type thing??
He throws every letter of the alphabet in this washing machine like tumbler, and out pops his latest post. At least that's what it looks like.
By the way, I love your avatar.

Tim4848

23rd April 2008, 04:34 PM

Thank you for reading my thoughts.

How am I an expense to you?

How am I costing you anything?

I did not stutter.

What was you expecting by viewing this topic.

What do you want?

I am at a loss, because I have thrown in everything but the kitchen sink.

I never ask you for a cigarette, sugar or milk. Who died and decided that we can't try some think that could take us out of a recession. Out of a war, lower fuel cost, lower crime to the point that it don't happen.

I am offering you a chance to be a part of my life.

To see if we can do what they said could never be done, and do it sooner than they would ever expect it to happen.

We will set up open opportunities for anybody to try if they would like, and this opportunity will come. How can it not, when we want something we get it, and that is just how the game is played.

We might not get it personally because the Government might decide that it is too classified at this point, and they should, but you can not let them sit around on it for too long of time, because this idea is not a monopoly just for the powerful, but for all of us, and that will be you and every person right to have that potential back up plan.

Think of this idea as a long shot that is always ready to be tried.

Why not try the long shot idea if it is free and it don't hurt a single thing if it don't work, other than you decide at that time what you want to do, about proceeding with the effort in that field of science, or throwing the whole idea out the window, and do what ever you want to do to me.

Send me to that bay place everybody keeps talking about.

Do you ever get the urge to try a long shot, especially when if might help you in a round about way, if you want it too, with no obligations of any kind, not by me anyway. I would assume the Government will want to get their cut of this type of technology when it hits the private sector.

What do I want out of this?

I have heard that men naturally likes to fix problems, and I am a natural as it gets, because I can rest at ease that my thoughts will take me out of pain and into pleasure.

I just have to listen with no ego.

Imagine a pond in my thoughts.

One ripple heads out in the middle of my lake head pond from what I am thinking, and then one from my inner thoughts.

I know I will naturally make some ripples, because we ail are made up that way, but now I know for the first time, that I can make a choice on this pond, to listen to what the other side might be saying through me now.

They don't want to talk about it, and they surely don't like me wasting my time in so many area's of my life right now other than focusing on this topic and it's completion.

So to answer the question quicker,

I just want to make you happy!

Tim

Think of me as Paul Revere, I am shouting what I feel I can do, and I am only asking to to try and experiment that is easy and it is free.

amb

24th April 2008, 04:04 AM

Tim, whatever makes you happy. But I truly believe you should try some other subject.
This brain gate idea of yours is a no goer. It's pure science fiction. I should not really respond to your posts, but I'm only trying to be nice, and I am a good listener.
Shalom.

Tim4848

24th April 2008, 07:37 PM

Tim4848

24th April 2008, 08:38 PM

Thank you for reading my thoughts,

What part of my idea do you have a hard time comprehending?

1) That out of body afterlife people could be real.

2) That out of body afterlife, if they are real. Could actually contact the BrainGate sensor of their own free will.

3) That you will be better off because of this type of idea.

4) other: Please fill free to explain.

I can not explain this topic any better in any one section of it, unless I know what part you are having a hard time understanding.

Thank you,
Tim

Tim4848

24th April 2008, 11:12 PM

Thank you for reading my thoughts,

I care

I understand all the touchy feely stuff you might think about when you think about this topic, and all the different possible emotions you could go through, but believe it or not, it will get better, and always in your favor if you want it too.

What can I do to make you happy

As crazy as it might sound, it still is possible, and I have ask this question a lot.

"What would it hurt?"

What is wrong with taking this science fiction idea to the next level?

All my idea needs is support, enough people who is willing to take it to the next level, by telling other people to check out this topic, and give them the chance to weigh in on this idea.

Be honest, please tell me about your concerns, vent all you like, or show your support with your views, exceeding my wildest belief's at this point in the reality of everything, and I can't thank you enough for your support in your views.

I don't claim to know everything have no intent to want too, and I know as a group over time we can talk more open about this idea, lord knows we have heard and seen enough movies about it, we just took it for granted that it was possible.

I actually saw along the way on my journey to this point an old twigh Light show where they actually took my idea with a machine to a whole different level, but at the end of the show, this religious lady broke the machine.

Why can't we all just get along, and pick a day and just tell the media to shut up, and all the advertising, and just be us, and enjoy being us, because when do we make it, or are we going to continue to be bought off with different perks through out our lives.

Today maybe we can build a better comfort zone, than yesterday, but boy that chocolate sure looks good, and hat do I think about that silly boys idea, I don't know maybe anything is possible, and this pulls the plug of ignorance we all might have if this idea is true, as my inner thoughts believe it might be.

What can I do to get into your comfort zone, that you should let other people weigh in on it, unless you are like me, and can't see another thing that they might add.

A concept

An idea

An opportunity

Does not break any laws of science, just adds to them.

It is free

Close to where I live. I could drive their from here. I could do it on my days off for free.

Is that not showing good faith.

I am throwing in everything but the kitchen sink, and I have two in my house that I will tear out of my walls if you let me do this idea right.

Energy, can not be made, can not be destroyed, it can change form, which includes friction, which is based on two tings having the weight of energy to make that happen.

Your energy keeps you out of pain and into pleasure for a reason, but you have to be in control of your emotions to the point that we would have to talk about this topic on Dr. Phil, and that will throw us on Oprah, just based on their associations, and being able to piggy back ride off each other ratings. If for some crazy reason I actually made it through a Dr. Phil show, and his ratings are good based on the topic, then Oprah might want to check me out as well, and I have to help David Letterman with the top ten reasons for something to do with this idea. Can you think of the type of top ten list that should be?

10 reason why we should not try it?

10 reasons why people view this topic?

10 reasons why you feel Tim has lost it?

!0 Reasons why so many people feel they can not interact about this topic, but loves to view it.

Thank you for reading my thoughts,

Tim

amb

25th April 2008, 02:42 AM

If I respond any longer to your posts, I will do irreparable damage to my reputation.
So goodbye, and good luck.

Angelo

Tim4848

27th April 2008, 01:19 AM

Thank you for reading my thoughts,

Reputation

I understand, try a view from time to time, seams to work for everybody else that comes here.

The view numbers for this topic are strong here, just like they are at a lot of sites I visit, so I have no doubt if I was given a chance to reach more people with my idea, the better the chances you could talk about my idea any where you like.

Sure a lot of people scratch their heads when they think about my idea, but that is only causing friction with their aura while they do that anyway, and just like when you touch the inside of a tent when it is raining, something is getting through.

Imagine for a moment that everything on Earth gave all a glow at night like that green stuff that Superman was effected by.

I have seen that once at night while looking at my neighbors yard.

I had never seen anything like it until I saw the preview for the first Matrix movie.

I don't know why these things happen to me, but over a lot of years, they do add up.

I have tried for the hardest time to try and see it again, but it never happens.

They use to make fun of people by telling them that there is nothing up in their brains but empty space. I truly believe when you were born, that was about all you did have, except the things your inner thoughts do for you, but as time goes on, you start to get up to speed with your inner thoughts, and if you are lucky enough to listen to your body and read up more on your thoughts, you might start to work on being on the same page with it, as I try and be with mine.

I find the best way at first is to right down your thoughts.

Start a thread like mine. Use what ever name you like, and just start posting your thoughts. they do not have to be good or bad. just post them as they come to you.

Question things, and then try and question them from other people perspectives and try and do all this with no ego, no drama, no negative, and keep it going a direction that makes you happy.

What makes you happy.

Starting a family and living happy ever after until death does you part.

You don't want much, just a piece of ground you can call your own.

Write about what ever you like. I don't write about those type of things, because that is normal, and to stretch and grow as a society, you have to stretch normal. I understand that it is hard everyday just to keep up with the Jones, and all the demands of normal living, but I read some where one time that every body can act like a damn fool for fifteen minutes a day, the key is not to exceed that.

So I exceed it more than others, but in the big scheme of Mopes Law you need people like me.

I am home grown in the Heart Land of America. Home grown from my parents who are still alive.

My brother James died in 2005, and one day I envision me playing him a game of Chess on Pogo. The original vision did not have Pogo as the location, but that is the need thing about Evolution, you can fill in the details along the way.

Am I a long shot?

Yes

But that is why we have long shots. Something to occupy our thoughts, because we already have our daily task so organized, that we have time to use the rest of our 40, 000 thoughts a day.

I found that I had more time to focus on this topic when I decided and made a chose to say no.

I need time for me, and by saying no, it has allowed me more time for this idea.

I believe that I have studied this topic enough now to say with out a doubt, that there is something to my idea.

It can't go away, you all know about it, and it is just like the pink elephant thing. Try and not think about them, and they come back in your thoughts even more, just like a virus or something, and depending on how well you can visualize is only a plus when it comes to my idea.

Anybody can see with our generations, that we need a change anyway. we had generation x, y, and z. Why not go to the main Circe.

Ignorances is expensive, and the better we quit ignoring this possibility the longer we live in a backward society.

We don't understand why some people won't use science when they are sick because of their religion, but we are doing the same thing with my idea.

We want to back away from it, because we don't understand it, but then we view it from a far, because we know there is something to it.

See when I look at something, i want to try this and that as I visualize, and there is nobody at fault.

If the side of my right eye, feels the presents of a aura glow around me while I am doing this is only a plus.

I notice with some thoughts I type, that the lighting to my right gets brighter.

I have never really taken the time to analyze it, but I would have to think it is self generated by my thoughts while in a positive state.

I know some times now when I am talking to some people, that I actually close my eye lids, as my eyes roll back and I draw of of information stored deep in my thoughts, just as I could when I was out of my body. It is almost like I am help back by the mass of this body, just like a big General Motor car.

I don't really need all the attachments anymore.

I have visualized so much stuff in my life, and everything is a open door policy.

I love to imagine, and I honestly feel that my idea is a no briner. Everything falls in place with it, except your old reputation.

One thing I did a long time a go was work on my icon status. Always having the right phone script for every situation. the exact hat to wear, and believe me, I have wore a lot of hats in my day, and I have been very good at what ever I focused on.

I have always felt lucky, but in a positive way, and things just seam to fall in place so easy for me. It was going so good for me, that I got bored, just like I did when I was in first grade.

I try and look at the results in a laid back easy going common sense way.

I believe that I would make any Candida running for the office of President, a good cabinet member, one who is free to set up my idea, and see how it turns out.

At the point when i say out it turns out you are thinking negative thoughts, then you are being biased and that is wrong, because you have no reason to think that way, because the idea can not be pr-oven wrong, or do they even have a place to start, because in their eyes it is all contaminates, and they can not find the right conditions, but some times you just got to start some where.

How long do you see something at the bottom of the pool before you decide to check it out. We are on the edge of space all the time, and yes you notice when you ardently kick a leg on something and hurt your bare foot., but few pay attention to space in general and how the invisible force goes through you just like it does everywhere else.

Once you had an out of body experience like mine. One that was very normal for that type of situation, then you know what it is like to be energy thought free.

I don't talk about it a lot, but no one is going to be tougher on you, but you.

Imagine you are falling or it is your last day on the conveyor belt of life.

I am a branch to one thing and one thing only, and how good my branch is will depend on how much value you give me.

Tell your fiend's I am stupid, dumb, what ever you like. I honestly don't care. I have no ego, because I choose not too.

That is my chose.

U remember as a child something to do with not letting them know, because they will do Al these test on you, and you will be connected to all these machines.

I remember being told this as a child, but I just can't remember the context to it.

I decided early on that it did not pay to be important. I did not want to draw attention to myself. I noticed a lot growing up because I loved to analyze, and I made it a goal early in life what type of things I wanted to analyze.

I believe from listening to other people that I was placed here for a reason, and now I know what that reason is, and what you have gotten so far is what you can comprehends at this point on your life.

You will be back, because it is out of your control. Your inner thoughts have added it to your mission in life, because this topic is just crazy enough, that it just might work.

Energy makes it happen, and having a plan only helps our odds.

My goal this week end is to try and improve at picking numbers on the Ohio pick 3.

I have so many ideas about how to do it my energy level for the idea is high.

I wonder some times as though I am connected to Brain-Gate.

Let's do it in my next post

thank you for reading my long thoughts,

One day I would like to be given the chance to try and see how long I could go one day just posting different thoughts.

I heard one time that this one guy would visualize building a house from start to finish while running in the Boston Marathon.

It inspired me one time to do that but the next thing I know I was always jogging behind some girl and enjoying life as we know it.

The hour of running alone is where your mind goes along for inspirations.

I remember jogging all the way around the town my wife was raised in. I thought about what it was like living in a small town like that, and how people were so down to Earth.

I am no different than you. I put one on at a time and all that stuff.

I just have had a different experienced, and a good track record in anything I set my mind to do, and of all the ones I have done in the past, this one is easy, free to try, and worth more than most things I know when you look at the big picture.

The up side of this idea far exceeds any changed reputation, with regards to this topic.

More than 80% of Americans believe that their is some form of afterlife, so if you are worried about your reputation, you should be tiling your friends about this site, It is all good trust me.

Here is your handy dandy phone script.

Hey _________, they say that more than 80% of Americans believe that their is some type of Afterlife. What percentage are you?

If they say 20%, don't go any further, now if they ask you what percentage you are. I personally would say something like, the way this world is going, I open for anything good.

If they say they are in the 80%, then you decide if you want to give them my web site or not. Only you can make that choice, and I will only kW if that happened, by more people replying to my thoughts, or more views on this topic.

I actually have other sites where my topic was told that had more views than this site, but for now this is my gate in life.

If anything is ever going to happen with my topic, I hope to always be a nail in this site, where I can talk to you about different things fro time to time, regardless what is going on in my life, and where you are at with things, maybe from things I have said, IT things you have heard that falls in line with this idea, I don't know, but like it or not, time will only tell.

I think the first time I came here, somebody wanted me to try the challenge, and after getting everything set up with them for trying it. I started focusing on different parts to the idea, until I got to the point that trying my challenge was left open for assumptions, because some would think it was a defect in the wiring, evil spirits, or something other than what my idea was set out to do, but after visualizing the potential of BrainGate that just started happening in 2005, was a history connection to my idea, and depending where you jump into my thread, the idea is always there to be tried by anybody through history, as long as the information is available.

Sure their are times I get worked up about it with my passion, but that is just my thirty minutes or less mind thinking from Domino's Pizza for 15 years.

I enjoy the fast pace of fast food, that moment of truth with every customer from start to finish.

My goal is to make it uneventful every time. I expect they are ordering with the pleasure of everything going right, and I want to make as positive emotional deposits into their emotional bank account, that if for some reason we ever do have to make a with draw, like we took too long getting it to them correctly, then might be less likely to close their emotional account with us.

I take full responsibility for that moment of truth every time i work now.

If you do everything right, then you have nothing to worry about.

What is right?

Don't hurt others or your self.

Do on to others as you would like to be treated.

I'm telling you my thoughts, please fill free at anytime to tell me yours.

Tim

uk_dave

27th April 2008, 07:03 AM

Little 10 Toes

27th April 2008, 12:34 PM

The view numbers for this topic are strong here, just like they are at a lot of sites I visit, so I have no doubt if I was given a chance to reach more people with my idea, the better the chances you could talk about my idea any where you like.

People like watching a train wreck. That's all.

Tim4848

28th April 2008, 08:41 AM

People like watching a train wreck. That's all.

Dear Little 10 Toes,

I have not heard from you in a while. So what have you been up to lately?

I have a cold and I know my mind only works about 50% when this happens, so please bear with me, because I have come here to inform about all types of different mind maps leading up to my possibility.

What do I have right now?

Thoughts, ones that honestly feel that my idea will work.

I believe it.

Not that I can do it right now or that all the problems with making it happen can happen.

I am just going to throw some things out and see if any of it sticks.

Did God know in the beginning that my idea would some day be possible?

Yes!

How did he know this?

Because he would know more about everything he had to work with.

Do you believe that their is a God?

Don't know one way or the other, just like my idea.

If there is a God, and this God is only one. Should it be woman, man, or other, and they are truly like the Energizer bunny and they just keep going on and on, then they would need an energy to make that happen, and that type of energy, could come from atoms.

Imagine these two cave men walking down this path, and as they come near a hill they see a major city for the first time.

Could never happen in real life probably, with everybody wanting a piece of the pie, but that is how far we have changed.

It was not an accident, it was a series of accidents, until we got to the point we are right now.

If we keep going down the path we are going. Other countries will start airing public announcements about donating money to kids in America, so they can eat.

People don't get it, because people don't want to change their comfort zones.

We are losing, and if you are thinking anything else, then you are thinking stupid.

Stop what you are doing, and start your thought process at your own personal ground zero.

Think before you talk.

Now I am not saying this because I am upset with you, or anybody else, but to inform you, that when we talk about this topic, as life goes on.

We need to be blunt, and blunt, and blunt until we bend the flag pole about this topic.

No bars. no games, no red tape, or anything else that wasted time.

We have to stick to core thoughts, and build off of them, not excluding any variable that we know about.

In other words, we are not talking about opening a can of worms, but every atom making up everything in that can of worms, and everything out side of that can of worms right down to the last little atom.

Core thought:

what are you really into?

What really makes you happy?

Better find things you can do while you are floating around a room.

To me it is a fact.

Take the touchy feely out of it with my idea.

You see you think and you float. Around and around long after the cows come home. Long after a list of future cars and Presidents. You see, you have thoughts, and you float.

In life we make it a point to get credit for what we do.

We like to feel important.

we like to think that people care about us.

The reality might be that 80% don't care about your problems, and the other 20% are glad that you have them.

In my vision from experience. In the afterlife you just might be spending a lot of time alone. Just floating, thinking, and seeing.

Go watch that one movie with Tom Hanks, while he is not talking on that island he was deserted on.

He still has more option than we will.

In my vision you will not hear, you will feel, and with that feel, your mind will not be playing tricks on you. No not at all, it will allow to think you are hearing based on what you feel.

Did I just hear my mom calling type of stuff.

No I did not forget that we were all taking some time to go to our core thoughts, and right now, we are pretty far in context of that core belief.

The reason we need to stay at our core thoughts at this point, is because we need to show that we have the ability to do it to begin with.

Life is like that show the incredible race in some ways, and yes we are leaving our core thoughts at this moment, because we have to start some where on a long road of exp-laing every worm, but if that what makes you happy, I can slow down and do that.

(1) That is us. Being raised as babies and buying into the reality that we are given.

My mom always told me that I never finished anything I ever started.

Now through life, I have had to carry that information with me, as I make decisions through my life. It is not that we blame our parents for things that they do, or what type of day was they having, and how we must of noticed it, because we took that one day of information to heart, even though I know they have opened their mouth more than that through out their life.

No other words come to mind.

I have made it a point through out my life, to be picked. If we were playing basketball down at the park and their is 11 kids. I want to show fro my ability playing the game, that I always get picked.

We all want to get picked.

Why would you buy a dollar lottery ticket?

You want to get picked.

Do you like to go to places where people know who you are, and they are going to pick a conversation with you, or you already decided you are going to have one with them.

What makes me happy?

what works for you. Do you like to write off people who inform you about something hat just might be possible?

Not being bored. that is my goal. I hear some people are so good in so many different fields that they are not real good at any one of them.

Are you playing in sand.

Do you have a legacy?

I hear people talk of their kids as legacies. Is that because their kids have legs, is that why they associate that with legacy, I don't know.

If you were falling off a cliff right now. Would you be worried about your reputation.

What is your reputation about this topic?

what would other people think?

Believe me when I say this. It should not matter.

You can't take them with you with out my vision.

I understand so many people have hang ups just like I do, and trying to get your head on straight before your body falls apart does take a lot of work, and then somebody like me comes along, asking you to focus on this as well.

You car insurance, house insurance, you are working hard just to get health insurance. I know what you are going through, I made it a point in my life to live a poor life.

I could of given in to creating a great comfort zone. One of the best as a human. I probably could of even teach ed a class on the inner workings of a couch potato, but that don't work for me. It is boring.

I love to analyze and visualize on so many different levels, and please do what ever you like to do as well, but don't discount what I am saying about this idea of mine, if I am picked to do it or somebody else.

Keep up with it, and ask questions that work for you.

Please take the time to visualize floating around in your bored mode.

Just hovering around a place you decided works for you, and think about my idea.

Could you float to a free standing sensor that was there for you to try.

I believe you could, and I believe you could think your way through my idea if you wanted too.

I believe that you can bring even more good stuff to this topic, if you decided too.

what if in reality you were picked to try my idea from the other side.

Would you do it.

Have you ever practiced?

Would you like to practice?

Do you like to have a purpose.

would you like to have a sense of direction?

Maybe you are mixed on that question, or maybe you are open to new things, because some of my post have no direction.

I can make fun of my thoughts or myself, because in the big picture it don't matter. Is that not the way to look at things today?

Don't do anything, because your reputation might get hurt.

If they want to hurt your reputation they are going to do it any way.

They can take a normal picture of you and change it any way they want, and they have gotten so good, it just don't matter.

People still your identity and do what they want with your reputation.

Do you normally pass on free idea's?

Please remember as I go on, from topic to topic, and you are wondering what I am saying.

It is that I am trying to by pass your comfort zone today.

Get right in close to you, even though I don't do this to really get close to you, because everything takes it's allotted amount of time, and that is all I have as well.

What makes my idea work?

It can be measured.

What makes you or me work, is we can be measured.

At this point in history, potential afterlife possibilities could not be measured.

Why?

American Idol is going off of TV, and why as well.

You have no control over them taking that show off the air do you?

To have control you have to be picked.

That is the reality of it.

People don't remember a lot of information, because they don't place value to it.

This idea has a lot of value, if you want to have the option.

In my vision you will have control as you float, think and see through your out of body afterlife.

You will be fed by the energy of space it self, by being a part of clear space it self in our eyes now.

The only problem though, you just might not be picked.

Do you want control of your thoughts in this situation of utopia or not.

would you rather not comprehend it, just like my wife don't watch the news, or are you all in.

That is what your comfort zone needs to decide.

what works for you

not me, I just inform

I was picked to do this, as others have been picked to do other stuff.

I don't think that is the case when you look at my core values.

Some of Tim's core values from just off the top of my head right now.

Don't make big mistakes

I trust my inner thoughts

The customer is always right, unless it pertains to personal policies or procedures.

Stand for something, or fall for anything.

Just like my mother use to say

Finish what you start.

Just some thoughts to think about.

Tim

uk_dave

28th April 2008, 09:43 AM

Originally Posted by Tim4848 http://forums.randi.org/helloworld2/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?p=3643080#post3643080)
Thank you for reading my thoughts,

My Ohio pick 3 number this evening on 4/22/2008 at 7:26 PM is 100. This is taking the .001 and turning it around. I did place a dollar on this one.

I will be back after the drawing to go over the stuff I did not have time to go over yesterday.

I will be back,
Tim

Did you win?

Well, did you?

Tim4848

28th April 2008, 06:00 PM

Well, did you?

Off topic for just a second.

I picked 100

It was 114

Do they have forums where we can talk about off topic stuff like this from time to time?

Capt.Nemo

29th April 2008, 12:44 AM

Oh dear, I've actually read the whole thread now. If it wasn't so pointless and downright frightening to read how much time, patience and knowledge has been sunk into it, I'd hope for some sort of accolade for this feat.
Now I'm just thinking that the 'traffic accident' analogy is merely pretty close. It's more like those infinitely elastic seconds, dragging on with excruciating detail observed about the most mundane objects, before the final bone-grinding and spleen-popping crunch and crash of aforementioned accident.

Tim, I'm glad you got your spelling checker working again, now your writing is clear as mud. In fact, it reminds me horribly of that old "Spell Checker Poem"

I'll hang around a while longer, watching in horrified fascination the impending crash but, ultimately letting a sigh of relief escape me as the speeding 'car' escapes the accident and drives off into the wild blue yonder.

amb

29th April 2008, 06:15 AM

Capt.Nemo

29th April 2008, 06:31 AM

My thanks, ambnp! It will be a treasured memento.

Tim4848

29th April 2008, 12:55 PM

Thank you for reading my thoughts and helping me to get better. I thank you for that.

Please fill free to ask a question about the topic, and I will do my best to stick to the question you are asking.

Thank you for your patience and comments,

Tim

Giggywig

29th April 2008, 01:36 PM

Tim4848

30th April 2008, 06:15 PM

Ok, one question about the topic:
Do you know how BrainGate works?

Yes

cos

30th April 2008, 06:58 PM

Hello, Tim.

What part of my idea do you have a hard time comprehending?

1) That out of body afterlife people could be real.

2) That out of body afterlife, if they are real. Could actually contact the BrainGate sensor of their own free will.

3) That you will be better off because of this type of idea.

4) other: Please fill free to explain.

It's the second part that I truly don't understand.

For the sake of argument, let's assume that there is such a thing as an "out of body afterlife" person. A being like this, by definition, would not possess a brain.

How would such a being interact with a device which is designed to detect electrical activity in a brain? How would it trigger the sensor, when it lacks the very thing that the device is designed to interact with?

Loss Leader

30th April 2008, 07:22 PM

This is still going on? It's like J.Lo's marriage.

Tim4848

30th April 2008, 08:26 PM

Hello, Tim.

It's the second part that I truly don't understand.

For the sake of argument, let's assume that there is such a thing as an "out of body afterlife" person. A being like this, by definition, would not possess a brain.

How would such a being interact with a device which is designed to detect electrical activity in a brain? How would it trigger the sensor, when it lacks the very thing that the device is designed to interact with?

Good question,

You actually already answered the question with you question.

"interact with a device which is designed to detect electrical activity"

Afterlife energy is nothing more than the energy that was once in your brain.

Electrical is to energy, as thought is to friction. It can all be measured.

They started out with animals, that went real good, they went to humans, that worked good too. I just want us to take advantage of the potential follow through of this concept.

Loss Leader

30th April 2008, 08:40 PM

Electrical is to energy, as thought is to friction. It can all be measured.

You know, when I taught the SAT, we had a simple rule. If two words make up a common phrase, they have no strong relationship. That's because one word is necessary to modify the other.

Example: Dog is to house.

Is that a strong analogy? No. Some dogs live in houses. Some houses can be built especially for some dogs. The two concepts - dog and house - have a very weak connection. A quick way to see this is that "dog house" is an acceptable phrase.

In Tim's pretend analogy, "electrical energy" is a phrase. So, I'm pretty comfortable saying the two things are actually very weakly related.

Since Tim has never bothered learning what electricity really is, I am sure he will object. He will, however, be wrong.

cos

30th April 2008, 09:15 PM

Afterlife energy is nothing more than the energy that was once in your brain.

Electrical is to energy, as thought is to friction. It can all be measured.

As far as I know, any measurable electric field is created by the movement of physical particles, namely electrons. Someone correct me if I'm wrong here. If a being were not composed of some kind of matter, how could it generate an electric field?

And even if it could, wouldn't one of the many, many people who have died so far have been detected by now? Devices that measure electric fields have been around since long before Braingate, and a lot of modern equipment is sensitive to electromagnetic interference.

If there are that many OoBAPs (out of body afterlife persons) floating around, surely we would have noticed more anomalies by now?

Little 10 Toes

30th April 2008, 09:56 PM

Good question,

You actually already answered the question with you question.

"interact with a device which is designed to detect electrical activity"

Once again Tim4848, you fail to understand basic english, basic questions and a basic understanding of how to quote.

Here's what was truly said and asked:
How would such a being interact with a device which is designed to detect electrical activity in a brain? How would it trigger the sensor, when it lacks the very thing that the device is designed to interact with?

You seem to have forgotten the brain part.

Please answer the whole question as it was asked.

Tim4848

30th April 2008, 11:17 PM

Thank you for reading my thoughts,

I am not here to teach basic English.

My idea is based on your inner energy, not electric, even though electric is a bi-product of energy.

Energy can not be destroyed, electric can.

BrainGate is designed to measure inner energy, and to measure it in a way that we can use toward this possibility.

This experiment is not as cut and dry as you might be thinking.

Some might feel that afterlife are just lined up waiting for the change, and even if they were, and I don't think they are. How would you measure it with out some type of plan or past data?

With out a plan or using past data from a patient, you don't have anything that can be measured.

Example:

A doctor is listening to your lungs during a physical, and they ask you to take a deep breath.

I believe as long as you have confidence in your doctor and understand what your doctor is asking you to do, that this type of procedure would be very easy to do.

My idea is no different

I believe in some ways; communicating with afterlife is easier than communicating with me.

Gravy

30th April 2008, 11:32 PM

My idea is based on your inner energy, not electric, even though electric is a bi-product of energy.

Energy can not be destroyed, electric can.Specifically what comprises "inner energy?" How do you know? With what instruments and techniques can I measure it?

Specifically what comprises "electric," which seems to be a new use of this word, which is normally an adjective, not a noun? How is "electric" created and destroyed? How is it a byproduct of energy?

A doctor is listening to your lungs during a physical, and they ask you to take a deep breath.

I believe as long as you have confidence in your doctor and understand what your doctor is asking you to do, that this type of procedure would be very easy to do.Yes, most people would find it easy to take a deep breath when asked.

I believe in some ways; communicating with afterlife is easier than communicating with me.Word.

Tim4848

30th April 2008, 11:38 PM

Tim4848

30th April 2008, 11:40 PM

There is an inside to everything, and everything can be measured.

Gravy

30th April 2008, 11:44 PM

How would it trigger the sensor, when it lacks the very thing that the device is designed to interact with?

Modifications to their design.

We did not just stick with the Wright Bothers design did we?The Wright brothers' aircraft did what they were designed to do. Had the Wrights simply pulled nonsense out of thin air like you're doing, they would have accomplished exactly nothing, as you've done. Tim, you are completely unable to explain in a rational manner even the simplest aspects of your theories. Doesn't this concern you?

Gravy

30th April 2008, 11:46 PM

There is an inside to everything, and everything can be measured.Second time, Tim. Please try, really try, to answer these questions with specifics, not with vague mystical pronouncements:

Specifically what comprises "inner energy?" How do you know? With what instruments and techniques can I measure it?

If you don't know the answers, you will need to adjust your claims. Do you understand why?

Gravy

1st May 2008, 12:13 AM

Is that your final non-answer, Tim?

Tim4848

1st May 2008, 01:09 AM

Second time, Tim. Please try, really try, to answer these questions with specifics, not with vague mystical pronouncements:

Specifically what comprises "inner energy?" How do you know? With what instruments and techniques can I measure it?

If you don't know the answers, you will need to adjust your claims. Do you understand why?

How do you measure it now?

With patience

How do you measure my inner thoughts?

By me telling you about them.

Story time:

This Blondie lady called up her local fire Department and ask them if they could come to her house and put out a fire. They said how do we get there?

She saids dahhhhh, Big Red Truck!

We do not need to go over small details at this time, because you are just searching for detail analysis that can't be verified until this idea is tried to begin with.

We already have the big BrainGate machine, and we already have the great patients that goes with it.

If I am right and I think I am. These patients will die at some point in their life, just as we all will at some point.

Every death with no purpose in this field, leaves a void for that purpose in this field.

Darwin had noticed in his travels how different birds had changed in small ways, based on their different locations to one another.

These were physical changes to the birds them self's.

Before those changes could take place, there had to be a need.

My changes will not effect the physical body in any way, but the mental will to communicate if given the tools to try.

This concept is bigger than any one of us if given the chance to try. Just like the first oil will probably was, but the pay off is out of this world.

If there is an afterlife, and I feel there is. Why not help the comfort zone
of that situation if we can?

Sure you can say there is not an afterlife energy, and live your life with that belief. You need no tools to do that, other than stating to us.

Believe what you want to believe, that is your choice.

I am free to believe what I believe, and my belief consist of BrainGate and their patients, and yes I do need tools and yes I do need support.

I am not he first to have this concept and I will not be the last. why does the great oz not approve of such a concept, just because they can't comprehend it yet? Get me closer to the action and allow me the opportunity to sink or swim.

I support you in anything you would like to do. Just as long as it does not hurt you or anybody else.

Why not return me that favor?

It's a free idea. what would it hurt?

That is the question I have ask time after time and you continue to ignore it.

What would it hurt?

Does it hurt hope?

Does it hurt your religion?

Does it hurt me going to bed right now?

At least give me an opportunity to take a field trip to Boston Mass., and allow the staff of BrainGate to explain to me why my idea would not work.

What would that hurt?

Gravy

1st May 2008, 01:16 AM

:boggled:

Golly, I could swear I said, "Please try, really try, to answer these questions with specifics, not with vague mystical pronouncements."

Bye-bye, Tim. I hope you resolve your problems.

Tim4848

1st May 2008, 01:33 AM

My final answer:

I know how we can communicate with the dead for free. How it can be measured, and the idea don't hurt you in any way what so ever, regardless how bad you might feel communicate about the concept, or anything else to do with me.

I have no problem if you want to ask questions about the topic, but don't waste my time with your negative comments toward me personally.

If you are so far in the box that you can not see the concept with out me, them I guess you need me, and if you need me, then you need to get me closer to the truth, because attacks on me mean nothing to me, because I have no ego, but you sure do waste a lot of time.

I am not like great people in history that got all upset and ran home and really dug in even deeper about their idea and brings it back at a later date. My idea is now.
Today, and everyday after that.

It is as ready as my grass is ready for my lawn mower.

I will never post my concept in any science paper. I don't need to do that, but if science would like to talk about how it could work it we try this or try that, then I would love to read it.

I do not have the plaque.

I don't bite
I have no ego

I don't know everything in life, and don't claim too, but if my idea does work, we might be able to open the door to some people who just might.

Some times in life you just have to believe in something, even if your silly common sense tells you not too.

I believe, how about you?

Tim4848

1st May 2008, 01:35 AM

"specifics"

Give me the tools and I would be glad to do that.

amb

1st May 2008, 02:32 AM

Good question,

You actually already answered the question with you question.

"interact with a device which is designed to detect electrical activity"

Afterlife energy is nothing more than the energy that was once in your brain.

Electrical is to energy, as thought is to friction. It can all be measured.

They started out with animals, that went real good, they went to humans, that worked good too. I just want us to take advantage of the potential follow through of this concept. Timmy, the brain produces the electrical impulses that drive our thoughts, and body. Not the other way around. If it was so, as one poster has already stated, we would be able to detect some of the billions of people that have perished. If a group of say 1 thousand dead people decided to prove to the living that they exist, they could concentrate all their thoughts as one so our detectors would detect them. There is nothing there to detect. We survive death yes, at least the atoms that make up our bodies do.
And these atoms are recycled by nature to produce something completely different, like a rat for example. Maybe that's what the Buddhist mean by karma. :eek:

Giggywig

1st May 2008, 07:05 AM

BrainGate is designed to measure inner energy, and to measure it in a way that we can use toward this possibility.
So your answer to my question should have been "no." Also, you could have added: "I know nothing of electromagnetism or the brain, so I could not possibly know."

Loss Leader

1st May 2008, 08:02 AM

At least give me an opportunity to take a field trip to Boston Mass., and allow the staff of BrainGate to explain to me why my idea would not work.

Who is stopping you?

Nobody here works for CNS. Noboy here has the power to send you to Boston or keep you from going. If you want to contact these people, contact them.

Here's the info for their research lab:

Cyberkinetics Neurotechnology Systems, Inc.
391 Chipeta Way, suite G
Salt Lake City, UT 84108
Email: sales@cyberkineticsinc.com
Phone: 801-582-5533
Fax: 801-582-1509
Directions:

From Salt Lake International Airport
Take I-80 heading East to the City Center. Take the 600 South exit and continue east to 700 East. Turn right and travel south to 800 South. Turn left and travel east on 800 South which becomes Sunnyside Avenue. After one mile turn left onto Foothill Blvd and stay to the right onto Wakara Way before the first light. Continue on Wakara Way traveling east; do not turn onto Chipeta Way but go through the 4-way stop and turn right at the second parking lot entry sign posted "Parking 391". The entrance to Cyberkinetics in Suite G is at the southwest corner of the building.

Here's the info for their corporate headquarters:

Cyberkinetics Neurotechnology Systems, Inc.
100 Foxborough Boulevard, Suite 240
Foxborough, MA 02035
Email: info@cyberkineticsinc.com
Phone: 508-549-9981
Fax: 508-549-9985
Directions:

From Boston and Logan Airport
Take 93S to 128N to 95S. Follow 95S to exit 7A (Rt. 140 Mansfield). At the second set of lights, just past the Piccadilly Pub on your left, turn left onto Forbes Rd. At the next blinking red light turn left again onto Foxborough Boulevard. Turn right at the first driveway (#100 Foxborough Blvd.) just past the Marriott Courtyard on your left. Entrance to the building faces the back. We are located on the second floor on the left side of the building.

Call them, write them, email them, drop by unannounced for all I care. Do whatever you want. Nobody here is denying you any opportunity to do anything.

cos

1st May 2008, 09:14 AM

How would [an out of body afterlife] trigger the [Braingate] sensor, when it lacks the very thing that the device is designed to interact with? [i.e. a brain]

Modifications to their design.

We did not just stick with the Wright Bothers design did we?

Correct me if I'm wrong Tim, but here you seem to be saying that the Braingate technology as it is currently designed would not detect "out of body afterlife" people.

Do you have any specific modifications in mind that would convert the Braingate into an OoBAP sensor?

And if the Braingate device as it exists right now won't work for your experiment, then isn't it a bit early to start training the patients?

Tim4848

1st May 2008, 06:54 PM

Timmy, the brain produces the electrical impulses that drive our thoughts, and body. Not the other way around. If it was so, as one poster has already stated, we would be able to detect some of the billions of people that have perished. If a group of say 1 thousand dead people decided to prove to the living that they exist, they could concentrate all their thoughts as one so our detectors would detect them. There is nothing there to detect. We survive death yes, at least the atoms that make up our bodies do.
And these atoms are recycled by nature to produce something completely different, like a rat for example. Maybe that's what the Buddhist mean by karma. :eek:

The Brain produces to a point and that is it, and no you could not get a whole bunch of afterlife together unless you planned it for them, because they can not see one another, as you can not see them.

Little 10 Toes

1st May 2008, 07:25 PM

The Brain produces to a point and that is it, and no you could not get a whole bunch of afterlife together unless you planned it for them, because they can not see one another, as you can not see them.

The brain produces what to a point? And how do you know that other dead people can't see each other? Proof? Evidence? Anything substancial?

[Opps, there I go again, ssking for proof. Will you continue your trend of not providing anything?]

Tim4848

1st May 2008, 07:38 PM

Correct me if I'm wrong Tim, but here you seem to be saying that the Braingate technology as it is currently designed would not detect "out of body afterlife" people.

Do you have any specific modifications in mind that would convert the Braingate into an OoBAP sensor?

And if the Braingate device as it exists right now won't work for your experiment, then isn't it a bit early to start training the patients?

Good question cos,

The sensor they are using now is designed to be an internal sensor. My idea will not be.

Tim4848

1st May 2008, 07:50 PM

Who is stopping you?

Nobody here works for CNS. Noboy here has the power to send you to Boston or keep you from going. If you want to contact these people, contact them.

Here's the info for their research lab:

Cyberkinetics Neurotechnology Systems, Inc.
391 Chipeta Way, suite G
Salt Lake City, UT 84108
Email: sales@cyberkineticsinc.com
Phone: 801-582-5533
Fax: 801-582-1509
Directions:

From Salt Lake International Airport
Take I-80 heading East to the City Center. Take the 600 South exit and continue east to 700 East. Turn right and travel south to 800 South. Turn left and travel east on 800 South which becomes Sunnyside Avenue. After one mile turn left onto Foothill Blvd and stay to the right onto Wakara Way before the first light. Continue on Wakara Way traveling east; do not turn onto Chipeta Way but go through the 4-way stop and turn right at the second parking lot entry sign posted "Parking 391". The entrance to Cyberkinetics in Suite G is at the southwest corner of the building.

Here's the info for their corporate headquarters:

Cyberkinetics Neurotechnology Systems, Inc.
100 Foxborough Boulevard, Suite 240
Foxborough, MA 02035
Email: info@cyberkineticsinc.com
Phone: 508-549-9981
Fax: 508-549-9985
Directions:

From Boston and Logan Airport
Take 93S to 128N to 95S. Follow 95S to exit 7A (Rt. 140 Mansfield). At the second set of lights, just past the Piccadilly Pub on your left, turn left onto Forbes Rd. At the next blinking red light turn left again onto Foxborough Boulevard. Turn right at the first driveway (#100 Foxborough Blvd.) just past the Marriott Courtyard on your left. Entrance to the building faces the back. We are located on the second floor on the left side of the building.

Call them, write them, email them, drop by unannounced for all I care. Do whatever you want. Nobody here is denying you any opportunity to do anything.

Good job Loss Leader with those directions.

I wish it was that easy to just show up there and get my way, but it can't be that easy can it?

I

Tim4848

1st May 2008, 07:57 PM

The brain produces what to a point? And how do you know that other dead people can't see each other? Proof? Evidence? Anything substancial?

[Opps, there I go again, ssking for proof. Will you continue your trend of not providing anything?]

I based a lot of my information off my own out of body experience, and those types of facts will not be there until the idea has a chance to play out.

Tim4848

1st May 2008, 08:07 PM

Thank you for reading my thoughts,

Don't forget I am still sick right now with a bad cold, and even though I do enjoy answering your questions. I must get some Nyquil shut eye. Please fill free to post more questions, and I will try and answer more of them tomorrow.

Thank you for your interest, information, and good questions about this topic.

Tim

uk_dave

2nd May 2008, 12:24 AM

amb

2nd May 2008, 03:33 AM

Loss Leader

2nd May 2008, 07:46 AM

Good job Loss Leader with those directions.

I wish it was that easy to just show up there and get my way, but it can't be that easy can it?

I have no idea if it's that easy.

I do know that you've gone on for pages and pages trying to convince strangers on the internet while you have not even tried to contact the people who make the device.

WE CANNOT HELP YOU. Even if we believed in your idea with all our hearts, we cannot help you. We have no ability to do anything to bring your idea to fruition.

If you want, contact the Braingate people. I gave you all the information you need. Otherwise, explain exactly what it is that you want us to do.

cos

2nd May 2008, 02:03 PM

The sensor they are using now is designed to be an internal sensor. My idea will not be.

Let's say I have an idea for a car that runs on carbon dioxide and produces oxygen for exhaust. Great idea, right? I mean, we've already got cars, so we just need to modify the design.

If that's my whole idea, though, we have a problem. I don't actually know what sort of change would need to be made. In fact, I don't even know if it can be done. It's just an idea, and a very general one at that. No one can help me with it unless I have some notion of where to begin.

Similarly, no one at CNS knows how to modify the Braingate to detect a previously undetected form of electricity. They wouldn't know where to start. Do you have any specific changes in mind? If you don't, then where is this modified Braingate going to come from? Who's going to know how to build it?

Tim4848

2nd May 2008, 07:55 PM

Can't you make your thoughts leave your sick body and use the electrical impulses to circumvent the keys on your computer keyboard and send signals direct to the computer processor to convey your thoughts without being hindered by a cold? Or something.....

....I mean what's the point of these incredible out of body thingies if you get laid low by a common cold?

Good question dave,

It is your natural body that brings down your inner thoughts. Not the thoughts but the feeling you get with your natural body.

Most people notice this on Thanksgiving after eating Turkey and potatoes.

Your intestines are doing so much work internally that it wears you out.

Now on the other hand, if your inner thoughts and energy did not have to haul that body around. The sky the limit literally.

You would not have too worry about the common cold, sex and so many other things that you worry about now.

But to get back to your question.

You can only focus on one thing at a time, and if you are wanting to work on the big picture. You better make sure you take care of your picture frame.

Sounds like a good field to study, but maybe the medical field already knows that answer when they say. "Drink lots of fluids, and get lots of rest."

I got sick last Saturday about an hour before I got off work, and I am still sick on Friday. I am clogged up all over the place. Am I in the bed with my favorite alcohol? No, I am thinking about this topic and answering threads.

So what do I know, except I feel this has more value than me.

I keep thinking how long you will have to wit for this type of opportunity if I am dead and gone as well.

Maybe you would actually do it then and name the event after me.

Here I go rambling again.

Loss Leader

2nd May 2008, 08:09 PM

I keep thinking how long you will have to wit for this type of opportunity if I am dead and gone as well.

Perhaps before you die, you should contact the BrainGate people. Neither UK_Dave nor anyone else on this forum can help you.

Tim4848

2nd May 2008, 08:20 PM

Let's say I have an idea for a car that runs on carbon dioxide and produces oxygen for exhaust. Great idea, right? I mean, we've already got cars, so we just need to modify the design.

If that's my whole idea, though, we have a problem. I don't actually know what sort of change would need to be made. In fact, I don't even know if it can be done. It's just an idea, and a very general one at that. No one can help me with it unless I have some notion of where to begin.

Similarly, no one at CNS knows how to modify the Braingate to detect a previously undetected form of electricity. They wouldn't know where to start. Do you have any specific changes in mind? If you don't, then where is this modified Braingate going to come from? Who's going to know how to build it?

A very good question cos.

I like the way you visualize.

First off:

Would any type of car work for your idea?

Second:

To keep it simple for now. I plan on just letting the sensor dangle freely in space up by the ceiling of the room we will be trying this free idea.

If a fish can find a hook, then the afterlife should be able to find this sensor.

Tim4848

2nd May 2008, 08:24 PM

Perhaps before you die, you should contact the BrainGate people. Neither UK_Dave nor anyone else on this forum can help you.

Would you if you could?

Tim4848

2nd May 2008, 08:56 PM

So let me get this straight. The dead can not see us OR each other. Jesus H Christ, what sort of existence is that? Imagine [censored] yourself for eternity, all alone, not a soul within light years from you. I doubt very much if anyone would be interested in your afterlife Tim. It's like trying to sell a freezer to an Eskimo. Thanks, but no thanks.

They can see us, have thoughts and move around.

The life and times of a natural out of body experience with true reality. Now this is only if you can comprehend it. Other wise, your inner thoughts will place you in a dream state, not because it don't like you, but the fact that it wants to take you out of pain and into pleasure.

I would believe your first day 48 hours would be the hardest. Knowing that this is all there is, and having to change your way of life.

It would not hurt to learn more about people who have out of body experiences. You should not have trouble finding that type of information, it has been going on for years and it will continue for years to come.

The last thing you want to do is be in denial about it.

That is an option, but why limit your self?

It only takes one time for my idea to work, and then the private sector will give you so many more options it won't even be funny.

I envision one day that robots will be operated by afterlife people with their own little nest inside them.

Orbots

Instead of a Jeanie in a bottle, you will have an orb with all it's movement in a robot, making it a Orbot.

My Mom use to say she could make coffee money from the things I use to say.

Loss Leader

2nd May 2008, 09:13 PM

Would you if you could?

Yes. If I believed in an idea, I would contact the only people on earth who had any ability to make the idea a reality.

Tim4848

2nd May 2008, 09:17 PM

I have no idea if it's that easy.

I do know that you've gone on for pages and pages trying to convince strangers on the internet while you have not even tried to contact the people who make the device.

WE CANNOT HELP YOU. Even if we believed in your idea with all our hearts, we cannot help you. We have no ability to do anything to bring your idea to fruition.

If you want, contact the Braingate people. I gave you all the information you need. Otherwise, explain exactly what it is that you want us to do.

I believe that I still need to reach more people about this idea, and give them a chance to weigh in on this idea.

I honestly believe that some one other than myself. Will help to get this whole thing started, and they might not even know yet.

they will say something or do something that will give this idea National attention in one way or another.

Maybe it is you, and you don't even know it yet.

You did give good directions on how to get there.

You might even throw in a visual link as well.

Maybe somebody else might find out if they do give field trips to the place or not, and what I would have to do, to get that chance.

Maybe somebody personally knows some one on the staff, or maybe even one of the patients.

My intuition tells me that more options will come in the future, I just have to learn to wait and listen.

If I did have a chance to just go there and ask questions with out them knowing who I was would be a big plus though, and if they actually would give me the time of day and work with me and not against me would be a plus for all of us as well.

Thank you for reading my thoughts. Got to go watch my favorite show numbers again. Too bad they just focus on bad guys, what a waste of energy.

Tim4848

2nd May 2008, 10:36 PM

Mind map this idea on a piece of paper. Draw a two inch circle at the top of your paper
and write this inside it.

(The Department of Positive Out o Body Possibilities)

Draw a line down from that circle about an inch and then make another circle a little bit smaller, and write this inside of it

(unlimited possibilities)

Now draw two lines off of that mind map, one of the two mind maps saying

the word (No), and the other mind map saying (Yes).

Should I go on, or have you already decided on no, regardless on what I or anybody else in the future ever have to say about the possibility?

Thank you for reading, making , and thinking about my mind map,
Tim

P.S.

If you are really into yes, and would like to be able to help me the best.

Get me on a radio or talk show and see if I sink or swim.

It is wasting all of our time right now, every time I have to go over the same stuff, every time a new person comes on this topic thread.

Everything takes it's allotted amount of time or mind map, and I am no different.

I understand the quickest way from point (A) to point (B) is a straight line, but that equation does not include the red tape of the experiment, or the culture we are living in now.

I feel the only way this idea will work right now in our culture is to tie it into a reality show, whee the staff of BrainGate is held accountable to the camera of the masses.

That way and that way only, can we get the right mind set from everybody that is a part of the whole situation can vote in on the next American Idol, and all the Simon's can moan at home if they want.

I will only do this free idea, if I feel we can make it work.

The right chemistry is very important to me.

It can be done other ways for our culture, but this one could be done pretty easy, and when I make my video this summer, I might use that format.

Adjusting our culture and the masses this direction, by laying all out there, has to at least be worth seeing as it all plays out anyway, don't you think?

They have to pick me, or somebody of power to make that decision.

I will not waste my time to drive all the way there to hear the words

"No"

Do that to me now if you want too and move on if you like, but if you want to help me, really help me. Tell me you do, so I can thank you, and get me in front of the masses so they can decide as well.

I would be glad to spend the gas and drive there if they wanted me.

Don't we all just want to be wanted in one way or another anyway?

What is your well thought out back up plan?

Don't be a Simon!

:)

cos

3rd May 2008, 05:08 AM

I hope you feel better soon, Tim.

To keep it simple for now. I plan on just letting the sensor dangle freely in space up by the ceiling of the room we will be trying this free idea.

But you see, we've established that the sensor won't work that way. Remember, the Braingate is not designed to detect thoughts. It's designed to detect the movement of electrons inside of a brain. If you dangle it in the air, it won't pick anything up.

If there really is such a thing as thinking without a brain, the Braingate sensor can't detect it.

Little 10 Toes

3rd May 2008, 09:06 AM

I based a lot of my information off my own out of body experience, and those types of facts will not be there until the idea has a chance to play out.

So your ideas come from something that we should take your word happened, and from things that have not happened.

You're still a troll, wanting everyone else do your work. You have been asked to explain your "thoughts" and your basis of your "thoughts" and you haven't produced them. When asked about "your science" you link to an elementary(sp) school website. You whine and complain ("Someone needs to talk to braingate people. Someone needs to get me on the radio") and do nothing.

Looks like that after 17+ pages, you still haven't provided anything. I'll read this train wreck of a thread later.

Loss Leader

3rd May 2008, 09:17 AM

I feel the only way this idea will work right now in our culture is to tie it into a reality show, whee the staff of BrainGate is held accountable to the camera of the masses.

There IS NO staff of BrainGate. The BrainGate is a machine developed by the staff of Cyberkinetics Neurotechnology Systems, Inc. There are no BrainGate people; only CNS employees.

After something like 950 posts in this thread, you still don't even know who makes the device you're talking about? You didn't know their phone number even though it's on their web site? When I type "BrainGate" into Yahoo!, theirs is the very first site that comes up. You didn't know that?

It seems obvious to me, Tim, that you have no intention of ever doing anything to make your idea any sort of reality. This is true even though the steps you have to follow are blindingly simple.

I will try not to post here again.

Tim4848

3rd May 2008, 08:27 PM

There IS NO staff of BrainGate. The BrainGate is a machine developed by the staff of Cybernetics's Neurotechnology Systems, Inc. There are no BrainGate people; only CNS employees.

After something like 950 posts in this thread, you still don't even know who makes the device you're talking about? You didn't know their phone number even though it's on their web site? When I type "BrainGate" into Yahoo!, theirs is the very first site that comes up. You didn't know that?

It seems obvious to me, Tim, that you have no intention of ever doing anything to make your idea any sort of reality. This is true even though the steps you have to follow are blindingly simple.

I will try not to post here again.

Dear Loss Leader,

I know all about Cyberkinetics, and I have tried to set up appointments with them in the pass, and I have never gotten back a reply.

Now by chance you have read some of my post on some of the other sites, while I was waiting for this site to catch up, then you would know that I have been having some computer problems. My volume don't work, and I can't send out e-mails anymore.

I have to re-boot all the time, because the computer freezes up, and I don't think I can save anything to disk.

Then you throw in the fact that I am only good at what I focus on, and computes is not one of them.

I don't even know my Ceil phone number. My one daughter showed me how I can find it on my cell phone if I need it.

Some might think this is crazy, but I found out later that Einstein was the same way.

He once said that he did not know his phone number, but he knew where he could get it, if he needed it.

Everything in life happens for a reason and there is a time and place for that measurable situation when it happens.

If you feel just calling them up on the phone is the best way, please fill free to explain to me how I should do it?

I have this idea and I want their input on it, or what.

Please post what how you would do it.

Play it out, show me how it can be done, I beg of you, because if you are right that it can happen by going through the front door, then I would think it would have to be done right.

The reason I never talk about Cyberkinetics is because I was trying to keep it simple. At one time I did not know if they would be the company to make it happen or not. At one time I had heard that other companies out side our country were actually doing better than Cybernetics in this field. Using equipment that did not have to go inside your head.

Example:

Instead of naming every pizza place all the time, I would rather talk about their ovens.

If you want me to bring their name up all the time, and all the people that work there I can, but that just adds to the mind map.

Back to your reply. You sound more impatient for results than I do, but you feel I must do it all myself.

Why?

Tim4848

3rd May 2008, 10:21 PM

Thank you for reading my thoughts,

I have always felt that I was here for a reason, kind of like "The Truman Show", but with my inner thoughts.

I just thought about it again, when I saw those 23,999 views on this site alone.

I really do have a problem with repeating old information too much. i just think it is such a time bandit.

Everything happens for a reason, and I am just waiting like a float for them to tell me to head out into the parade.

Tim4848

3rd May 2008, 10:25 PM

I hope you feel better soon, Tim.

But you see, we've established that the sensor won't work that way. Remember, the Braingate is not designed to detect thoughts. It's designed to detect the movement of electrons inside of a brain. If you dangle it in the air, it won't pick anything up.

If there really is such a thing as thinking without a brain, the Braingate sensor can't detect it.

Mine will!

Without going into details right now, because the more I analyze right now, the sicker I get.

Tim4848

3rd May 2008, 11:42 PM

So your ideas come from something that we should take your word happened, and from things that have not happened.

You're still a troll, wanting everyone else do your work. You have been asked to explain your "thoughts" and your basis of your "thoughts" and you haven't produced them. When asked about "your science" you link to an elementary(sp) school website. You whine and complain ("Someone needs to talk to braingate people. Someone needs to get me on the radio") and do nothing.

Looks like that after 17+ pages, you still haven't provided anything. I'll read this train wreck of a thread later.

"So your ideas come from something that we should take your word happened?" Yes!

"You're still a troll, wanting everyone else do your work."

I just want some help. You don't have to do anything if you don't want too.

I explain my thoughts, and you just don't get them yet.

My science is your science. I break no laws of science, and as I have said before. I am not here to insult anybody intelligence.

As I have said before under this topic some where.

I am working on being better at explaining this topic.

If you can help me with that, then please see what I am saying and help.

If you don't think I am ready for prime time with my typing ability, don't worry, I won't be typing in that format.

Now if I am using a written format, then I still do need more help in getting better generic answers. I like to call them phone scripts.

My best way of explaining this topic year to date, has actually come from people interacting with me on this topic.

I just type my thoughts as fast as I can, but i have no way of knowing if that works for you or not, unless you tell me.

I would think it would be in all of our best interest to do our part to help this topic, but maybe that is just me.

At work I evaluate what employees strong points are and count on those strong points to help make things run better.

I don't hire people and try and find reasons to fire them. This is not natural, and if people have to worry about their lively hood all the time, and how they should behave, then they are no good to me.

I want you to help because you want to help for what ever reason works for you.

I like to think i am helping in some way or I would not be typing right now.

I still have not seen Numbers this week, played a game of 8-ball, spent anytime playing any Pogo games, and I could go on and on.

You ask the questions, and healthy or not, I am here trying the best I can with what I have to work with.

I know it sounds crazy at times, and believe me, if i knew this was going to be my calling early in life, i should of paid more attention in school or something, but this is what we have, so we might as well do the best we can with what we do have, and take it from there.

Call me the new starting point or something.

You just might be the closer, I don't know.

Sure some people can go into details about anything and they can talk about all kind of interesting stuff, but that is not me.

I skip across topics, like a flat rock skips across a pond.

The things that come to me while I am typing amaze me from time to time as well.

To make a long story short.

Dear Little 10 Toes, if having to do something to help make this topic a reality weighs on you to the point that you feel so negative about the concept.

Don't worry, I am telling everybody on the Internet right now, that I am giving you a free pass on having to do anything with this topic.

I hope that helps you feel better,
Tim

Little 10 Toes

4th May 2008, 02:06 PM

"So your ideas come from something that we should take your word happened?" Yes! Ummm, no. You haven't even provided a foundation of proof for your ideas.

"You're still a troll, wanting everyone else do your work."

I just want some help. You don't have to do anything if you don't want too.You're right, I don't have to do anything I don't want to do too. I just want to do about the same type of work you've done on your topic. I've posted on the internet, except I've only done it on *one* website/forum.

I explain my thoughts, and you just don't get them yet.

My science is your science. I break no laws of science, and as I have said before. I am not here to insult anybody intelligence.

As I have said before under this topic some where.

I am working on being better at explaining this topic.

If you can help me with that, then please see what I am saying and help.

If your science is my science, please provide proof that "we are living inside energy". No links to elementary schools. Just stick to the question.

Oh, also extactly what type of modifications to a device that is connected directly to a brain will have to be done to be activated by something that has no brain?

Tim4848

4th May 2008, 06:25 PM

Thank you for reading my thoughts,

You ask some good questions, and i would love to focus on them, but as I have said before. It has to be a good deal for both of us.

You claim your effort is a no, but you want me to waste more time with you.

Effective 5/4/2008

I will not waste my time answering questions to people who waste my time.

I don't know what you are selling, but I am not buying anymore.

View and comment all you like, and go way out of your way to try and give me no value if you like, but I will not waste my time on you anymore.

You don't have to call me a great American, or the Ditto thing, but I better hear some empathy in your thoughts.

Let me please repeat. I don't know what you are selling, but I am not buying, and that type of interest you are showing is not motivating me in the least.

If you feel you are these type of people, why don't you go slam Hillary, Obama, or McCain. At least they are being accountable for something. All I am doing is informing with no reward, and no help from you.

Thank you for reading my thoughts,

Tim

creativecritter41

4th May 2008, 06:43 PM

Tim,

I have a object to the right of my computer screen. Can you project to my energy and tell me what the object is? It will be there for the next year. If this has already been done on other pages, I'm sorry to have repeated it.

I've sent my thoughts out to you, this should work.

Little 10 Toes

4th May 2008, 10:13 PM

I believe that this message is aimed at me so I will respond accordingly:

Thank you for reading my thoughts,

You ask some good questions, and i would love to focus on them, but as I have said before. It has to be a good deal for both of us. You have never defined what a "good deal for both of us" is, so I will assume you mean a good exchange of information. I am trying to start that exchange of information. Most people here do not "live in energy". You have used that term many times before. Since I am not understanding what you mean, I have asked you to define that term.

You claim your effort is a no, but you want me to waste more time with you. No. That is not what I said. I said:

I just want to do about the same type of work you've done on your topic. I've posted on the internet, except I've only done it on *one* website/forum.I have not seen any other work that you have done. I have claimed all you have done is post on the internet. My proof? Go to any search engine and look for Tim4848. You'll find you posting in several websites. I've read some of your posts and have found no action done by you. Please review this thread and you will find you have asked people to do things for you like to get you time on the radio (http://http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p=3672116&postcount=939).

Effective 5/4/2008

I will not waste my time answering questions to people who waste my time. And how are we wasting your time?

I don't know what you are selling, but I am not buying anymore.I'm not selling anything. You are the one trying to sell us your idea.

View and comment all you like, and go way out of your way to try and give me no value if you like, but I will not waste my time on you anymore.

You don't have to call me a great American, or the Ditto thing, but I better hear some empathy in your thoughts.

Haven't given you any empathy because you haven't asked for it.

Let me please repeat. I don't know what you are selling, but I am not buying, and that type of interest you are showing is not motivating me in the least.Again, let me repeat. I am not selling anything.

If you feel you are these type of people, why don't you go slam Hillary, Obama, or McCain. At least they are being accountable for something. All I am doing is informing with no reward, and no help from you.
But Tim4848, the only informing that you are doing is expressing an idea that currently has no scientific basis.

Tim4848

5th May 2008, 12:45 AM

Thank you for reading my thoughts,

I have spoke in the past that my vision on this topic is that you will be able to have your normal thoughts, see, and move around as you like.

You now have those options as well.

Energy is in every thing that has atoms.

My inner thoughts have the ability to do things that I have never been trained in school to do, and most of us, in my opinion take it for granted.

Let's examine some of those things:

It keeps us alive, even when we are a sleep.

It keeps us seeing, even when our eye lids are close.

I believe you can learn a lot about my idea, just by seeing when your eye lids are close.

Check out the energy.

Medium Liza Williams believe that afterlife might do better in an area that is filled with clutter, because of the added energy that clutter exposes, and I can not say right now if that could be the case or not.

In my bathroom, I have these six light bulbs that stick out independent of one another around the three different mirrors that are there as well.

With this, I have some option to try in that room.

I can turn the mirrors different directions where I can not see my body.

This visual if you do it right, gives the appearance to you that you are invisible.

We all know that you are not, but it does give you the feeling of what you have to work with in an out of body state.

This is a visual with your eyes open. You can also get a feeling close to that with out mirrors, if you turn your eyes a curtain direction, where you don't see any part of your body, including your nose.

Every night, right before I go to bed, I turn off the lights in my bed room and walk into my bathroom with my eyes close.

My goal is to feel the energy of those six lights.

I do this for only a few seconds, and then I turn off the lights.

I am left with a green picture. the closest thing I could compare it too, is the green matrix, from the movie "Matrix".

As I come out of the bathroom with my eyes lids shut. I can still make out things in my room for a few seconds.

I normally always sleep in total darkness, and I very rarely ever have dreams that I am aware of.

I do notice if I take a nap, or sleep in a room that has a lot of lite, I have more dreams.

This leads me to believe that our thoughts count on out side energy, not just the food that we eat.

I once threw away a bucket of some type of meat one time, and watched the magnets multiply out of what seamed to be nothing. Each one taking up it's own space, and like everything I think about. I imagine it on a bigger scale, after I play with the one plus one math.

Example:

If ma gets had the opportunity to multiply and take up all the space of atoms, they could.

They multiply in the temperature of energy. a constance that we could imagine, even though they are gross to look at, but they still do it. they become a thing that we can see. Can afterlife live in this type of environment?

Yes, because they are a energy, and mag its, regardless how many. Are a bi-product of energy.

I have also noticed if I have my eyes closed in a dark room.That my eyes are drawn to any light, before I am able to consciously do it my self.

We already know from science that are eyes are not the best, compared to other animals, and that some of them can see things that we can not see.

With so many things to go into detail about in this field alone could keep you busy thinking, but to say that it is not possible to take your thoughts, vision or movement away from something that is centered in this field would be an understatement.

I knew a long time ago, that I could not do it all. I would have to learn to say no to different things, because everything takes it's allotted amount of time.

I have asked questions on this site and others about anything you know that does not have a right or left to it.

As far as I remember. I have found no person to answer that there is something that does not have a right or left to it.

That was an easy question to what I have been saying all along, and that is the fact that there is an inside to all things, and that inside is a constance.

You can not have 100% inside to everything, and not think that there is an inside to you as well in energy.

Let's go back to the ma gets again. I don't know who came up with that name, but it sure is not a pleasant word in my thoughts, and it is hard to comprehend as you o watch them multiply.

Now some write all this type of thinking off to how nature keeps going on after we die, and they just use that energy a different way, but if that was the case. you could not have a magnets, light, heat, or a whole list of repeatable situations in space it self.
Example:

By repeating any science experiment. You are showing that nature is consistent, and that energy is consistent to a point. That point is what we decide is consistent.
I believe you can look at after life in a whole bunch of different ways, but regardless how you analyze it. My idea is still doable, and will continue to be do able, just like anything that we decide we want to focus on.
You see that now, with all the threads that the Internet has been able to provide in that 24 hour day of life that we like to use.

What is afterlife in a nut shell.

a energy bi-product.

I leave nothing for assumption.
It takes it's space in the invisible force of nature.
It holds it's own for it's size and weight, and how long it can stay in that form has yet to be discovered.

I like to expect the worst, and then hope the worst never comes with good planning.
But to do that, we need patients. People who will die. I know I am blunt, but it was true.
We can't get our foot in the door to this opportunity if we are living in denial.

Example: Watch Ghost Whispers, and they lead you to believe that you cross over into the light.

Now they have the luxury of being on prime time, just like so many other movies like this, as I have you.

No wonder so many people are confused. they see and hear this as they are growing up, and then some one like me comes along with limited resources, claiming something totally different.

As I said earlier. Close your eyes in a dark room, and venture out into a lit room, and see if you don't see a light.

I woke up out of my body in my experience, so there was no light, except the light in the ceiling while I was floating up there. I did not see anything different than the mirror experience, where I hid my body to get the same type of experience. Try that idea some time, and you will notice that you still think, just like you do right now.

Try it any where in a atom field in space that you like, and you should still get the same results.

Space is clear, regardless what energy is there, and some how between the clear space, your size, weight, and that energy, you are able to see.

When i first started studding this topic, the one that I was stuck on at first, was why I was floating in this state, but after studding it. I felt it was a constance to the invisible force.

I took two round flat magnets, both with a whole in the enter of them and placed them on a clear straw. The one on top, I taped the face of a person on it, and placed the other magnet in a clear plastic square box that I got at office max. Inside the straw, I place a lot of metal shavings.

Before I talk more about this experiment, try this other one the next time you go out to eat.

Take your straw in your glass of pop, place your finger over the one end of the straw, and flip the straw over, with the pop still in the straw, and then place it right back into the glass. After you let go of the straw, if it is place in an up and down motion in your pop ice, the straw should start to climb out of the glass, as the pop comes out of the straw, leaving the straw empty inside. Just that little difference changes the outcome from normal. Now this experiment was done in a liquid, and my magnet idea is done in the invisible force.

Once you have a magnet around the straw with the metal shavings, ones that you can get at a store that sells stuff to teachers. You will notice when the magnet is in line with the shavings in the straw, and then you raise the straw, the shavings go up, but only the shavings that are in line with the magnet. No shavings below that point will move.

Now if you place one magnet north, and one south, the one on top, that is not mounted like the bottom one, will go up, and take that picture of a person head right up with it.

Now we know that is you have a music tape and get it near magnets, it clears the music off the tape, but we also know if you have the tape in just the magnetic field that is all around us, that the tape will work fine. We also know that we can do 1+1=2 all day long in front of magnets with our thoughts and are memory is never cleared like the tape.

You know a fish needs it's water, like we need our air, invisible force, energy and everything else.

I can not speak of life as a sperm, because I was not developed in that form, even though I was an energy, a space and I was on the clock, and we also know so many different things as well, like a plant may die, but it still produces for next year, and then you have a tree that just keeps growing right along as it uses the invisible force.

you can actually produce the characteristics of a tree, with metal shavings a magnets if you wanted too. with out having to go into details, I will just show you some day on tape.

Last week on Numbers, they showed how a liquid can change it's properties to be a structure, just like walking down the side walk.

Anyway to make a long story short.

The evidence is out there, if we want to focus on that, or to save time, just try my idea for free.

If any kids are out there, and would like to try any of my experiments, just make sure your parents approve and they are supervising you while you do them.

Before I tried the close eye lid experiment, my eyes had already changed to where I could not see up close anymore, and I have always wondered after having my out of body experience, if this was a natural thing before you die, since so many people have it happen to them.

I would imagine that there is a lot of people up in there age that can still see up close, so it would not need to be the case, but I still hold off on ever having my eyes fixed, just in case it is.

there is so many things on this Earth that we do not know, but on the same hand, there is a lot that we do, but we just don't compare notes.

Some might feel that everything can be explain on our planet or any other, and I feel once you feel you know everything. You are a waste of time, because there is always a new way to look at anything, even if you feel it is a constance.

Thank you once again for reading my thoughts, and some of the reasons why I feel the way I do.

Tim

cos

5th May 2008, 07:32 AM

I have asked questions on this site and others about anything you know that does not have a right or left to it.

As far as I remember. I have found no person to answer that there is something that does not have a right or left to it.

I guess you don't remember, but some pages ago I did mention something that has neither a right nor a left to it: a starfish. Here are some more things: pearls, raindrops, amoebas, roses, electrons, tornadoes, etc. It's a long list.

Unfortunately I don't understand how the rest of your argument builds from here, so I don't know if this has any effect on your theory.

Tim4848

5th May 2008, 03:11 PM

I guess you don't remember, but some pages ago I did mention something that has neither a right nor a left to it: a starfish. Here are some more things: pearls, raindrops, amoebas, roses, electrons, tornadoes, etc. It's a long list.

Unfortunately I don't understand how the rest of your argument builds from here, so I don't know if this has any effect on your theory.

good question Cos,

I am short on time right now, and I do want to talk about the things you have listed. I hope to that later, but Before I do that, let me explain what I am trying to relate this too.

Some feel that when you die your inner energy of your thoughts just breaks up and is used in nature for other things just like pouring a glass of red dye in a river.

I do not believe that to be the case. I believe your inner thoughts are made to hold it's space. I believe it won't break up.

I will be back,
Tim

Little 10 Toes

5th May 2008, 05:08 PM

Tim4848

5th May 2008, 07:44 PM

Magnets do not "multiply".

The rest of your post is gobbly-gook because you do not define "mag its" and "ma gets". Please contact Mr Wizard and advise him you found out how magnets work.

[Edit]
Re-reading your post, I believe you mean maggots. You know, baby flies.
They are a life form, not energy. They can multiply. Once again you do not understand basic biology and basic science. There is no "temperature of energy" since there are power lines in Alaska.

Tim4848, before you bore us with more analogies and stories please expain your basic foundation of your idea and give concise examples of how "we are all living in energy".

Good job Little 10 Toes,

Yes, It was maggots I was talking about.

I'm glad to see that you are up to speed on energy, but just in case others are not, that is what this reply is all about.

Take a piece of paper and place anything you like on it.

Glue, ink, paint, sand, plastic, moisture, blue prints, diploma's, money, fire, or anything you like. Paper is a good foundation for all type of things, but it is not good for everything. Now on the other hand, energy space is.

I do not know everything as most people don't, but I do believe that once you are born into energy space. That space that was once blank like a Cd, or a DVD, before they place any information on it, is now filled with information, continuous thought, sight and movement. Movement that is based on that person, or anything with thoughts.

To comprehend this thought, you do have to back out other things.

Energy is movement, energy is the building block of everything, and it works well with everything.

You can have thought in Alaska, on the moon, on Mars, in the dark, under water, and just about any where else.

Sure other people can explain this field better than me, but we still need to talk about it.

I believe that out of body afterlife live in an invisible force, and they are just as constant as the invisible force it self, and if anybody has low self esteem and don't believe in this one concept alone, then we do need to talk about it more.

Dear Little 10 Toes, to get back to your question.

I have given you proof before that we live after we die many times, and with more effort I could find those results for you but I won't because it is a waste of my time, but I will give a quick review of some of them.

People die, machines confirm that they die for long periods of time, but then they come back after long hours of no blood going to that thing you call a brain, but they recover just fine, still report having thoughts during the time doctors say that their brain is not showing any brain activity, and they actually come back smarter than they were before they die. How many things do you know that can do that?

I believe that your inner energy, once it leaves your body does have the ability to move and it is not confined to any one place. Now this is also true to your thoughts as well, but in that situation, you do have to lug your body around.

In the reality of the natural world, the only thing limiting us is our culture.

sackett

6th May 2008, 11:12 AM

Tim, a moment for a serious question:

If you had to prove that you're not crazy, how would you do it?

Yes, that's a serious question, not a taunt. Because if you ever find yourself the guest of honor at a sanity hearing (it could happen), a lawyer arguing that you're nuts would only have to produce a sample of your posts and then rest his case.

How would you respond? Could you rephrase the stuff you type? If you did, would it sound sane? Please try to give that some clear thought. I've seen nutbars here and elsewhere on the internet, and they distress me. I don't accept the phrase, "harmlessly insane." You may well have something to say, but it's certainly not what you've been posting. See a doctor, get a referral to a mental health clinic, and put yourself under the care of people who can help you.

Pity is an unpleasant emotion, you know.

Tim4848

6th May 2008, 04:29 PM

Tim4848

6th May 2008, 04:48 PM

Thank you for reading my thoughts, and that is all they are at this time.

They are not sticks and stones.

Please take the time to read this link below that I am reading at this time, if you would like, or maybe you think they are crazy as well.

http://keithhotten.blogspot.com:80/2008/05/what-shall-we-tell-children.html

I feel that my idea is a good one, but you do have to be mentally ready your self to handle it when it comes.

Thank you for reading my thoughts,

Tim

devnull

6th May 2008, 10:07 PM

Im lost.

This is almost as confusing as watching a Mexican soap opera.

As far as I can decipher, Tim thinks he can modify the braingate to "talk to" the remaining energy field that is left after a brain dies. Unfortunately, at this time he is unable to detail such a modification, nor has any proof that the "dead brain energy field" exists.

Tim - apparently you are certifiable. I really think you should go have a long chat to a mental health professional now. Your idea is completely and utterly without merit, and is merely the deluded rantings of someone quite ill. *Please* go and speak with someone about this, for no other reason than it will perhaps finally allow this damn thread to die!

wollery

7th May 2008, 02:28 AM

People die, machines confirm that they die for long periods of time, but then they come back after long hours of no blood going to that thing you call a brain, but they recover just fine, still report having thoughts during the time doctors say that their brain is not showing any brain activity, and they actually come back smarter than they were before they die. How many things do you know that can do that?Please cite one scientifically documented case of a person being technically dead for hours. How about instances of people having their IQ tested before and after such an episode and their IQ increasing?

Please, only peer reviewed scientific articles from reputable medical journals.

amb

7th May 2008, 04:01 AM

Please fill free to stay on the topic and don't waste my time.
Typical. Tell a person they need help with a mental problem, they automatically go into denial. Everybody else has a problem except them.
The posts from Tim are not the posts of a healthy mentaly astute person.
He keeps on harping about some science fiction 'Brain Gate' myth that only lives in his 'brain'.

sackett

7th May 2008, 08:55 AM

Typical. Tell a person they need help with a mental problem, they automatically go into denial. Everybody else has a problem except them.
The posts from Tim are not the posts of a healthy mentaly astute person.
He keeps on harping about some science fiction 'Brain Gate' myth that only lives in his 'brain'.

Typical, but not unhopeful. Denial is an understandable initial response. If somebody said, "ambnp, you clearly have some bolts rattling," how would you feel? How would you answer?

And yet, the idea has been presented: two posters have now planted seeds of doubt in Tim's mind, or so I think.

Tim, nobody's wasting your time but you.

Tim4848

7th May 2008, 04:16 PM

Typical, but not unhopeful. Denial is an understandable initial response. If somebody said, "ambnp, you clearly have some bolts rattling," how would you feel? How would you answer?

And yet, the idea has been presented: two posters have now planted seeds of doubt in Tim's mind, or so I think.

Tim, nobody's wasting your time but you.

Dear sackett,

Everything in life takes it's allotted amount of time, and you are no different.

I welcome your feed back about this topic, and you would know that if you actually read any of the topic to begin with.

Please fill free to inform me about what part of this topic you don't understand?

Maybe you might want to even goggle this topic on the Internet and research it some more. One thing I would like you to do while you are doing that if you don't mind. Add up all the views of the topic at the same time, because some one told me recently that they felt it was up over a half a million views.

I have been called everything you can imagine, and you are free to say what ever you want as well, but if you want to attack my character for asking you to read my thoughts. Please fill free to post those comments on my topic.

"The Department of Negative Out of Body Possibilities" here at this site.

Thank you for reading my thoughts,

Tim

________________________________

Tim4848

7th May 2008, 06:24 PM

Thank you for reading my thoughts, and welcome back to my right brain thinking.

Warning: If you understand what 1+1=, then you are still in your left side of your brain. Please take the time to think about pink elephants.

I promised a while back, that I would imagine what it would be like doing my idea as a BrainGate patient.

I can feel the inside of my thoughts moving any where I want them to go.

To the left, to the left, everything I feel is to the left.

What a touchy feely world, but regardless what I feel. or as much empathy
as I have the time to show. This is your chance to feel it as well.

Place some value in this idea, because you are selling your self short if you do in my opinion only.

Take it or leave it, you decide, and I'll be back.

Tim.

Tim4848

7th May 2008, 08:23 PM

Thank you for reading my thoughts,

If I was a Brain Gate patient and I was trying this Idea.

I would first like to thank Cybernetics for the opportunity.

I would try and do everything that they ask of me to do.

Would I enjoy the fact that they will be placing this sensor into my head?

No, but I am willing to pay that price for this idea.

I would look forward to all the different things I might be able to do on their monitor.

Maybe I could send you an e-mail from that situation.

Maybe I could play you a game of chess.

I do know that I would try harder than anybody to be the best patient I could.

As time passed and I have a chance to work with them on different ways of measuring my efforts, and playing out different type of sensors to use with Brain Gate after my death. I would then be ready for that situation.

By knowing where the machine will be located after my death, how I will post my pin number, and which sensor I will try first, and then which one I would try after that.

The day comes when I die of natural causes.

This time I don't wake up out of my body. I mentally leave, just expecting the opposite of how I came back into my body after my actual out of body experience.

that is one of the advantages of having a normal out of body experience.

Once you been there, and done that. you have a level of expectation.

Sure I thought about the past as I was leaving my body, but I know I still have a plan a head of me, and with the mind set to expect the worst, and the worst ill never come. I will stay focused to the plan.

I understand some do not feel it is possible, and while I am in that state, that will be the motivation I will build off of to try my hardest to make it happen.

I understand that so many people might think that it happens this way or it happens that way, and sense we have never really established a plan like this before. We can only see what these results might hold.

So I am now in the room with the Brain Gate machine after I die.

I will behave as calm as Obama, and then I will begin to play out the procedures, just as if I was still a human Brain Gate patient.

The staff of Brain Gate has volunteered their time to try my idea for eight hours after my official death. this time will happen in two hour windows with different lighting to show what sensor we will be using. Each sensor tried, will be approved for that patients personal preference, and mine will be close to the ceiling, with a big screen monitor there as well.

People through out the years has spoke of things happening in space that could not be explained.

Einstein saids that God don't play dice, and he almost had it.

Einstein with his status at the time, could never claim atom activity to that of after life behavior no more than he could ask a cock roach for directions, but I can!

I offer an opportunity.

A communication back up plan to death, if it is possible and nothing else.

Thank you for reading my thoughts,

Tim

We will be setting up that opportunity.

Little 10 Toes

7th May 2008, 08:28 PM

Please cite one scientifically documented case of a person being technically dead for hours. How about instances of people having their IQ tested before and after such an episode and their IQ increasing?

Please, only peer reviewed scientific articles from reputable medical journals.

Tim4848, why haven't you answered wollery's question?

[Gobbly-gook message that did not answer my questions, but here are some selected highlights]

Energy is movement, energy is the building block of everything, and it works well with everything.
Once again Tim4848, you "mis-remember" basic science. Energy is not movement. I light a fire in a fireplace. Energy is produced, yet nothing is moving.

I believe that out of body afterlife live in an invisible force, and they are just as constant as the invisible force it self, and if anybody has low self esteem and don't believe in this one concept alone, then we do need to talk about it more.You believe something. Great. Have facts and evidence to back it up?

I have given you proof before that we live after we die many times, and with more effort I could find those results for you but I won't because it is a waste of my time, but I will give a quick review of some of them.No you haven't proved anything at all. I will *not* take your word for anything. If you said I was on fire, I would have someone else tell me that.

I believe that your inner energy, once it leaves your body does have the ability to move and it is not confined to any one place. Now this is also true to your thoughts as well, but in that situation, you do have to lug your body around.Great, you believe things that can't be proven.

Again, I will ask, what proof do you have that "we live inside energy"?

amb

8th May 2008, 03:21 AM

Dear sackett,

Everything in life takes it's allotted amount of time, and you are no different.

I welcome your feed back about this topic, and you would know that if you actually read any of the topic to begin with.

Please fill free to inform me about what part of this topic you don't understand?

Maybe you might want to even goggle this topic on the Internet and research it some more. One thing I would like you to do while you are doing that if you don't mind. Add up all the views of the topic at the same time, because some one told me recently that they felt it was up over a half a million views.

I have been called everything you can imagine, and you are free to say what ever you want as well, but if you want to attack my character for asking you to read my thoughts. Please fill free to post those comments on my topic.

"The Department of Negative Out of Body Possibilities" here at this site.

Thank you for reading my thoughts,

Tim

________________________________Tim, no one is attacking your character. It's not allowed on this forum to attack the person, only their message which is exactly what's happening.

sackett

8th May 2008, 09:45 AM

Tim, I don't understand anything you've posted.

Tanstaafl

8th May 2008, 12:34 PM

Tim, I don't understand anything you've posted.

Ah, so you do have something in common with him after all.

Tim4848

8th May 2008, 09:38 PM

Thank you for reading my thoughts,

Dear viewers of this site.

Some who visit here are very vocal that they don't understand anything about this topic. How do you feel about what I am saying. are you with me or not?

Do you find any interest in what I am saying, or is it just a waste of time?

Please let me know with your views once again and lift this topic up over 25,000 views by Saturday night.

Show how you feel with your views.

If you feel my idea is a waste of time and you don't understand it. Don't view this topic, and we can wait until this summer when I try and make a video about this topic.

If you truly want me to stop, don't view me, and keep the views under 25,000 views by Saturday evening.

Now on the other hand, if you enjoy my post, then view as much as you like until we reach 25,000 views, or we even exceed that with even a higher number if you like.

Wow me with views if you like to read more about my thoughts.

The reason I throw out this challenge, is because I truly am no different than most people when it comes to emotions.

I have better thoughts when my thoughts are free to listen. This is not always the case, when I am sick, or feel know body seams to care one way or the other.

I truly like to think that some of you actually do support my idea, and if that is the case.

Thank you once again,

Tim

Tim4848

8th May 2008, 09:42 PM

Thank you for reading my thoughts,

290 views

Looks like a lot, what do you think?

Can we do it before Saturday afternoon?

I will be back if you all can do it.

Thank you,

Tim

wollery

8th May 2008, 11:07 PM

:rolleyes:

amb

9th May 2008, 04:42 AM

Ah, so you do have something in common with him after all. I''ve never laughed so much. :) You should be writing script for real comedy sit-coms on TV. :D

Little 10 Toes

12th May 2008, 07:37 AM

If you truly want me to stop, don't view me, and keep the views under 25,000 views by Saturday evening.

View Count was at 24,951 as of 9:30am East Coast time.

Will you now stop like you said you would?

Loss Leader

12th May 2008, 08:38 AM

Monday morning and all is well.

Well under 25,000, that is.

Tim4848

12th May 2008, 06:36 PM

Thank you for reading my thoughts,

If you truly want me to stop, don't view me, and keep the views under 25,000 views by Saturday evening.

good job to those that don't want to view me.

You are now free to do something else with your life.

For those of you that do like to view this topic.

I will be back at a later time after this topic clears 25,000 views.

Thank you for reading my thoughts,
Tim

Little 10 Toes

12th May 2008, 07:25 PM

On May 8, Thursday:

If you truly want me to stop, don't view me, and keep the views under 25,000 views by Saturday evening.

On May 12, Monday:

View Count was at 24,951 as of 9:30am East Coast time.

Will you now stop like you said you would?

Tim4848, nice dupe post. The posting was less than 25,000 when you posted. In fact, when I posted, the view was already at 25k with you posting the last message.

Will you go away now with your unrealistic idea like you promised?

Apathia

12th May 2008, 11:00 PM

Tim,

Don't waste anymore time here, when you could be talking to the dead!
(They'll listen.)
This bit of viral marketing will tell you how:
http://www.talktothedead.org/

Tim4848

14th May 2008, 05:02 PM

Tim,

Don't waste anymore time here, when you could be talking to the dead!
(They'll listen.)
This bit of viral marketing will tell you how:
http://www.talktothedead.org/

Nice thread Apathia!

I did leave a reply there.

I told them to come to this site.

Why you ask, because my idea is free, and it can be measured.

Thank you for reading my thoughts,
Tim

leonAzul

14th May 2008, 06:29 PM

Happy anniversary.

(Someone had to say it.)

:D

Little 10 Toes

15th May 2008, 07:50 AM

amb

16th May 2008, 04:00 AM

That this thread has reached 25 pages is austounding. A bit like the Seinfeld show. Popular because it was a show about nothing.

Tim4848

20th May 2008, 10:01 PM

Happy anniversary.

(Someone had to say it.)

:D

Thank you leonAzul,

for being the one to say it.

I will be back,

Tim

Little 10 Toes

20th May 2008, 10:31 PM

Why aren't you answering any questions tim4848?

amb

21st May 2008, 02:18 AM

Thank you leonAzul,

for being the one to say it.

I will be back,

Tim
They sound like fighting words. McArthur said that when he withdrew from south east Asia.

Tim4848

23rd May 2008, 11:14 PM

They sound like fighting words. McArthur said that when he withdrew from south east Asia.

Good comment ambnp. No that is not a fighting response, but a post it note.

I once heard that this comment, "I will be back", is the best thing a spouse should say, when leaving the other spouse.

If it is good enough for a spouse, then it should be good enough for you.

Sure I might have some funky stuff after I thank you for reading my thoughts,
but I am always trying to improve, as I hope you are doing as well.

Either we know or we don't know, and yes I have been gone for quite some time, and yes I don't even read your questions anymore because I am getting so incredibly bored.

Imagine you went to Canada to See the Niagara Falls. after your trip is done, and you are trying to come back into the United states, and they would not let you do that, until you answer all the question you always ask me.

My idea is free to you, and all you have to do is do it.

We all are going to cross over toward this possibility one day, and on that day. Your options will be limited.

They are not today. If they are, you are making them that way.

I have not been posting my thoughts here any more. I write them down, and save them.

One day I will die, and there they will sit, until something happens to them.

I don't care, my options will be limited as well, thanks to you, and you, and you.

I created value in you.

i thought we could talk about anything.

I would think that judge Judy would have her own forum. I picked this one, because my past brother name was James.

In my thoughts I am standing in Canada just waiting in the pouring rain, not noticing which type of water is making the most noise.

Noise has no boundaries!

I am a free long shot and nothing more.

What is a free long shot?

The answers to the test.

Yes, I am cutting back on my thoughts at this site. Not because I don't love to do it, but for so many other reasons.

I am changing jobs this week end, and i will have to be focused on them more, until I do more to help them than they expect.

They have been wanting me to work for them for over two years, and they have been saving me a location to manage for over a month.

I have never been happy with the upper management for the company I am with now. Tomorrow is the last day of my two week written notice with them.

I would love to post more thoughts, but this new company wants me to focus on them.

Everything in life takes it's allotted amount of time, and I am no different.

I have been writing my thoughts down on paper more lately, and I am allowed to go off topic on paper more.

I'm no Howard Stern, but my idea does cross over a lot of different topic's.

I am lazy when it comes to re-writing my thoughts, even though I would probably do a better job with them if I did.

I'm sorry, but I d need some positive feed back from time to time.

I am not Simon, from American Idol.

This has to be a good deal for the both of us.

I can put up walls as good as the next person, and that is the crazy part of this topic.

Regardless what happens to me everyday, this topic will still be viewed, and people will try and take in as much as they can, when they can.

I don't have to say another word about this topic anymore, it sells it self, regardless what my personal options are.

I understand that I talk of informing people of this topic, but who really cares.

Do you care, or are you bored with it as well.

Are you bored, or are you against the ropes about the possibility.

Do you base the possibility on true science, or do you base it on my grammar.

Sure I would love to see a joke about me on Saturday Night, but I would also like the opportunity to try it as well.

Example:

a joke is only as funny as you feel it is to your intelligence, right or wrong.

What paradigm do you feel my idea is not good enough?

Did you invent flight, did you invent the light bulb, did you pick the pick 3 number today, did you beat me at chess on Pogo yesterday. What have you done, who died and made you boss?

i don't care what you believe, but my goal is to try and make you happy.

now how can I talk to you this way, and ever have a chance of making you happy?

Because my paradigm believes that we are family, and family should be able to speak their mind from time to time, not so much criticizing, complaining, or condemning people like you see on TV shows, but share your thoughts.

i would love to come on a site, and let it all out, but we don't live in that type of culture yet.

We should be a able to question everything, not because it my ruffle some of our feathers, but to see if we are going the right direction in life or not.

I don't know about you, but I feel I am pretty good at fixing problems, but I also feel I am not being used in that field correctly. What should I do?

This must be the Dear abbey part of the topic.

Be a big boy Tim, and only think normal thoughts today, and the last thing you should do is watch that "Truman Show" movie again.

I'm dying here, and I feel some thing needs to happen soon!

Don't ask what you need from me, but what can you do to help this topic.

Think about this for a second.

I am willing to focus totally on this topic and make it happen, and all you have to do is call the media in your local town, and ask them to interview me.

I know that one person out there can make this happen, and then your local town media will decide if there is a story there or not.

Let them decide, and all you have to do is give them this link.

How can you go wrong

If they like it you win, if they want to make me out to be crazy on the
National news, you win. If they just take the link and do nothing with it. You tried.

Do you remember what tried and done felt like.

they tried to go to the moon before and they did that.

I remember and it felt good to do that. I have not forgotten 911, as I have so many other things, and you will never forget about me.

Am I a:

what ever happened to that tim guy, you know the one who believed we could communicate with afterlife. You remember that one thing he said. You remember, don't think about pink elephants.

I'm not happy

I want to be happy, and the only way I see that I can be happy, is if I am given the chance to try my idea, if only through a walk through if nothing else.

What would it hurt.

Pick any person you know on the Internet, that likes to video tape events, and have them do a walk through of my idea, just as I want to do, and then decide for your self.

Are you worried to pass this link to any body?

Mail it to them, no return address.

Call and tell them over the phone from a pay phone. Do what ever works best for you.

I have no volume in my thoughts, or do I?

I feel that my thoughts are loud tonight, and quick to move on from this to that, because I am always limited on time, and today is no different.

I believe that some might feel they can be famous by doing negative things, but you can also become famous by doing positive things as well.

Narc on me, promote me, complain about me, do what ever works for you, and let them decide.

Wait around and let somebody else do it, and then see which media outlet jumps on the topic first.

sure I may be wrong, and sure I may be right, but we will never know, if we don't do something.

I believe we should always do curtain things, and this topic is no different.

Example:

I have no problem excepting the fact that we are sending messages into space, hoping that some body out there is friendly, and they rush back here to us, singing the song, that they are here to save the day!, and even if they had that ability, they would have to understand how to measure friction in a way that could be measured.

Example:

We send a wave of noise into space as you go out side and yell that supper is on the table.

The volume of that friction, or wave will be gone at some point, but not the inner space of that possibility.

Example:

We are sending messages into space, hoping, and paying a lot for it as well, and my idea covers the other end of the gambit, by allowing the inner thoughts the opportunity to start focusing on my possibility.

I would think, regardless how small inner out of body afterlife thought is, if there is such a thing, would stand a far better chance for any type of success rate, if we would at least first, give them a chance to be heard.

I do not want to speak for all afterlife good or bad, but I must. not because I am wright or wrong, or indifferent, but because I care enough to show my softer side of Sears, if nothing else.

thank you for reading my thoughts,

Tim

Little 10 Toes

25th May 2008, 05:54 PM

Good comment ambnp. No that is not a fighting response, but a post it note.

I once heard that this comment, "I will be back", is the best thing a spouse should say, when leaving the other spouse.

If it is good enough for a spouse, then it should be good enough for you. But what if it's from an abusive spouse?

Sure I might have some funky stuff after I thank you for reading my thoughts,
but I am always trying to improve, as I hope you are doing as well.
I notice that you have impoved the length of your messages as well as your non sequiturs.

Either we know or we don't know, and yes I have been gone for quite some time, and yes I don't even read your questions anymore because I am getting so incredibly bored. Ditto! :)

Imagine you went to Canada to See the Niagara Falls. after your trip is done, and you are trying to come back into the United states, and they would not let you do that, until you answer all the question you always ask me. But there's a big difference, you're avoiding our questions and we still don't know how we all live "inside energy".

My idea is free to you, and all you have to do is do it.Why don't YOU do it?

We all are going to cross over toward this possibility one day, and on that day. Your options will be limited.

They are not today. If they are, you are making them that way.

I have not been posting my thoughts here any more. I write them down, and save them.

One day I will die, and there they will sit, until something happens to them.

I don't care, my options will be limited as well, thanks to you, and you, and you. Poor Tim4848. :( No one will be able to communitate with you when you're dead. The good thing is you haven't supported your claim that there is an afterlife or that you'll be there.

I created value in you.Bull. You haven't created anything in me, let alone value.

i thought we could talk about anything.You have talked about anything, yet you refuse to have a meaningful dialog. What's the difference? Think of the wacked-out crazy guy on the corner back in 1999 declaring end of the world on Jan 1, 2000 (Y2K bug). Someone goes up to him and asks him specific questions, but the guy still shouts random giberish. That's you. A meaningful dialog would have the streetcorner guy answering something like: "Over 80% of all banks use the EZCa$h program that only computes your CD interest by using the last two digits of the year. If the current year is less than the start date, the program will then take all of the original deposit as well as any interst, and apply it as a addition to the bank assets. I know this since I was a company supporting the EZCa$h program and have seen the help file." That would be a nice dialog.

I would think that judge Judy would have her own forum. I picked this one, because my past brother name was James.Oh. But James Randi was born Randall James Hamilton Zwinge, and you've started this same thread on several other website, including AARP (http://community.aarp.org/n/pfx/forum.aspx?tsn=1&nav=messages&webtag=rp-health&tid=7979).

In my thoughts I am standing in Canada just waiting in the pouring rain, not noticing which type of water is making the most noise.

Noise has no boundaries!Yes it does. It needs a medium to transmit sounds. Go to outer space and scream.

I am a free long shot and nothing more.
What is a free long shot?
The answers to the test.What test?

Yes, I am cutting back on my thoughts at this site. Not because I don't love to do it, but for so many other reasons.

I am changing jobs this week end, and i will have to be focused on them more, until I do more to help them than they expect.

They have been wanting me to work for them for over two years, and they have been saving me a location to manage for over a month.

I have never been happy with the upper management for the company I am with now. Tomorrow is the last day of my two week written notice with them.

I would love to post more thoughts, but this new company wants me to focus on them. Good luck on your new job. Are you staying a pizza manager?

Everything in life takes it's allotted amount of time, and I am no different.

I have been writing my thoughts down on paper more lately, and I am allowed to go off topic on paper more.

I'm no Howard Stern, but my idea does cross over a lot of different topic's.

I am lazy when it comes to re-writing my thoughts, even though I would probably do a better job with them if I did.

I'm sorry, but I d need some positive feed back from time to time
I am not Simon, from American Idol..Wow, if you go off topic on paper more then what you do here, then wow. And no, you're not Stern, or Simon. I'm sure they are glad that they're not you as well.

This has to be a good deal for the both of us.You keep saying that, yet when we ask for more details/explaination of your thoughts, you ramble on (like this post (your's or mine it doesn't matter)). So far you haven't made this "deal" "good for us".

I can put up walls as good as the next person, and that is the crazy part of this topic.No, walls are not the crazy part of this topic.

Regardless what happens to me everyday, this topic will still be viewed, and people will try and take in as much as they can, when they can.

I don't have to say another word about this topic anymore, it sells it self, regardless what my personal options are.

I understand that I talk of informing people of this topic, but who really cares.

Do you care, or are you bored with it as well.

Are you bored, or are you against the ropes about the possibility.

Do you base the possibility on true science, or do you base it on my grammar.This topic doesn't sell anything except your lack of understanding of science. You still haven't explained what your "true science" is. Your half-assed attempt was to link to an elementery school. Oh, please don't invite us to your pity party.

Sure I would love to see a joke about me on Saturday Night, but I would also like the opportunity to try it as well.

Example:

a joke is only as funny as you feel it is to your intelligence, right or wrong.

What paradigm do you feel my idea is not good enough?

Did you invent flight, did you invent the light bulb, did you pick the pick 3 number today, did you beat me at chess on Pogo yesterday. What have you done, who died and made you boss?Huh?

i don't care what you believe, but my goal is to try and make you happy.

now how can I talk to you this way, and ever have a chance of making you happy?No, your goal was to get someone to modify BrainGate. Or is it that you want someone to do something for you?

Because my paradigm believes that we are family, and family should be able to speak their mind from time to time, not so much criticizing, complaining, or condemning people like you see on TV shows, but share your thoughts.Then your "family" is more like a TV show. My family has told me that it's stupid for me to take apart fireworks and light them. Nearly lost an eye because I didn't listen to them. In addition, I'm glad I'm not part of your family.

i would love to come on a site, and let it all out, but we don't live in that type of culture yet.Please explain then your actions when you've posted on other sites and have let it all out.

We should be a able to question everything, not because it my ruffle some of our feathers, but to see if we are going the right direction in life or not.

I don't know about you, but I feel I am pretty good at fixing problems, but I also feel I am not being used in that field correctly. What should I do?Yes, we should be able to question everything. We should also be able to get comprehensible answers too. Here's are a few problem you can fix: Why can't you give straight answers to straight questions? Why do you continue to use non sequiturs?

This must be the Dear abbey part of the topic.

Be a big boy Tim, and only think normal thoughts today, and the last thing you should do is watch that "Truman Show" movie again.

I'm dying here, and I feel some thing needs to happen soon!Non sequitur

Don't ask what you need from me, but what can you do to help this topic.

Think about this for a second.You want us to help the topic, but you won't help us. Why don't you help this topic by providing evidence?

I am willing to focus totally on this topic and make it happen, and all you have to do is call the media in your local town, and ask them to interview me.

I know that one person out there can make this happen, and then your local town media will decide if there is a story there or not.

Let them decide, and all you have to do is give them this link.

How can you go wrong

If they like it you win, if they want to make me out to be crazy on the
National news, you win. If they just take the link and do nothing with it. You tried.Again, you want us to do work that you won't do.

Do you remember what tried and done felt like.

they tried to go to the moon before and they did that.

I remember and it felt good to do that. I have not forgotten 911, as I have so many other things, and you will never forget about me.I hope I can forget you!

Am I a:

what ever happened to that tim guy, you know the one who believed we could communicate with afterlife. You remember that one thing he said. You remember, don't think about pink elephants. (See above comment)

I'm not happy

I want to be happy, and the only way I see that I can be happy, is if I am given the chance to try my idea, if only through a walk through if nothing else.You're not happy? Suck it up, walk it off, (insert some other motivational sports quote here). That's life. Go try your idea and quit complaining.

What would it hurt.The efforts of the patients that BrainGate was designed to help.

Pick any person you know on the Internet, that likes to video tape events, and have them do a walk through of my idea, just as I want to do, and then decide for your self.

Are you worried to pass this link to any body?

Mail it to them, no return address.

Call and tell them over the phone from a pay phone. Do what ever works best for you.Again, you ask for me to do your work.

I have no volume in my thoughts, or do I?

I feel that my thoughts are loud tonight, and quick to move on from this to that, because I am always limited on time, and today is no different.

I believe that some might feel they can be famous by doing negative things, but you can also become famous by doing positive things as well.

Narc on me, promote me, complain about me, do what ever works for you, and let them decide.

Wait around and let somebody else do it, and then see which media outlet jumps on the topic first.

sure I may be wrong, and sure I may be right, but we will never know, if we don't do something.

I believe we should always do curtain things, and this topic is no different.
Again you ask someone to do your work.

Example:

I have no problem excepting the fact that we are sending messages into space, hoping that some body out there is friendly, and they rush back here to us, singing the song, that they are here to save the day!, and even if they had that ability, they would have to understand how to measure friction in a way that could be measured.Friction can already be measured. I immedately think of heat.

Example:

We send a wave of noise into space as you go out side and yell that supper is on the table.

The volume of that friction, or wave will be gone at some point, but not the inner space of that possibility.What is "volume of friction"?What inner space?

Example:

We are sending messages into space, hoping, and paying a lot for it as well, and my idea covers the other end of the gambit, by allowing the inner thoughts the opportunity to start focusing on my possibility.

I would think, regardless how small inner out of body afterlife thought is, if there is such a thing, would stand a far better chance for any type of success rate, if we would at least first, give them a chance to be heard.

I do not want to speak for all afterlife good or bad, but I must. not because I am wright or wrong, or indifferent, but because I care enough to show my softer side of Sears, if nothing else.

thank you for reading my thoughts,

TimBack to the basic questions then Tim4848. Any proof that there is an afterlife? Your personal, untestable experience doesn't count.

amb

26th May 2008, 03:01 AM

You won't get an answer. I think he has bolted to some other forum.
I didn't think they allowed mental patients near a computer in psychiatric hospitals.

Little 10 Toes

26th May 2008, 12:07 PM

You won't get an answer. I think he has bolted to some other forum.

Well, he said he wouldn't come back, but he did. So he probably will still view his "topic".

Tim4848

27th May 2008, 12:31 AM

Thank you for reading my thoughts,

Timmyanna Jones, the last frontier, Truman World, The matrix of everything, the edge of everything, the invisible Force, facial space, the ability to have thought, which in it self has evolved. Don't you think we were pretty lucky when our thoughts decided to build a scull around our thoughts.

How lucky we are, to know this is the best of all worlds, but to live in denial about the real truth is only hurting you in the long run.

I do not need evidence anymore, there is evidence all around us, including the tools to make my idea work.

Sure I could ramble on about this and that, but that won't get us any closer to making it happen.

It truly has to be a good deal for both of us.

I don't need to inform as much as I need the opportunity to try it.

Please don't forget this part. This is the important part of the whole concept.
It is doable and it is free!

We can throw things toward Mars, as Americans are struggling to get by and understand, but when we have an opportunity like mine, that is close to home and it can do more good than anything else, and to deny it the opportunity, when so many people could benefit from it, is astounding to me.

I understand that I come from a Fast food back ground, and I am use to doing things fast, but how long do you have to hang out by the food truck before you are willing to try this?

A week , a month, a year?

How long do you want to wait?

Do you want to wait until some other country does it?

Is there a law against trying new things in our country?

Who died and said we can not do anything, but send every thing over seas to other countries.

Are we not free to try and help me in this field?

I will say this again. "What can I do to make you happy?"

Answering questions is what you want, then please fill free to answer some as well.

Answer my questions and I will answer yours.

Like, why are you here viewing this topic?

like, If you can see that my idea is doable by any person, if given the resources to try it, and it don't hurt anybody, and it is free, then why not do it?

Why are you not excited about the opportunity?

Why would you not want to have a back up plan like this?

Your answer must also address the part about being free.

I could understand an argument, if I was asking for money, but I am not. I am asking for a chance to try an idea that has never been thought up before.

All I do ask, is your help in getting the concept going, by letting as many people as possible know about the idea. I understand some of you don't feel you can do that for what ever reason that might be, but I do believe one of you could make a difference.

What kind of difference?

History making!

If my idea works or not, it will still make history, just as it is doing now.

From the moment I first posted my thoughts about my idea on the Internet, it was news. Big news with a little audience, but still news.

I have painted a picture that is now free public domain to anybody who would like to try it.

Free, free, and free through out eternity, and it will always be that way.

There is nothing you can do to change that, regardless if you tried.

a simple plan, that has come of age right in front of us, and for most people, it is hard to comprehend.

Not for me.

I have always looked up to so many different people through out my life, and some of the things they have created, is simply amazing, and at no point did I ever think I would be that type of person, but if I am or not, will only be decided by being given the chance to try.

Please list three reasons we should not try my idea?

Example:

I do not feel Tim is qualified to be given the chance to try this idea. based on the fact he has never tried it before. He should go to school some where and teach him how to do it, even though they have not done it before either. Maybe he should not do it, because his grammar is bad, or some times he seams too blunt, in a hurry, upset about something. I think he should just answer questions all day, because I like t hear the answers, it makes me feel all good all over. I think he should answer the questions, because if he ever looses it, and gets on the Nancy Grace show, we will have all the facts.

Thank you for reading my thoughts,

Tim

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Tim4848

27th May 2008, 12:48 AM

Thank you for reading my thoughts,

The tools for this idea is now for sell.

http://phoenix.corporate-ir.net/phoenix.zhtml?c=182802&p=irol-newsArticle&ID=1149103&highlight=

Everything in life takes it's allotted amount of time, and this idea will be no different.

Who will it be?

Donald Trump, Martha Stewart, Sergey Brin, David Geffen, Oprah Winfrey, Larry Ellison, Michael Bloomberg, Rupert Murdoch, Steven Spielberg, Bill Gates, Mark Cuban, Warren Buffet, and Tom Cruise.

What power would like to take it with them when they go?

Thank you for reading my thoughts,

Tim

Tim4848

28th May 2008, 12:34 AM

Thank you for reading my thoughts,

I officially started my new job today, and mo, it has nothing to do with this topic.

How are we coming on the questions I asked yesterday?

Answer my questions better, and I will do the same for you.

Please fill free to stretch and grow and inform as many people you know about this topic.

The back up plan that you don't want to be with out.

Everything in life takes it's allotted amount of time, and this topic is no different.

Sure when I first post it, people could not comprehend it, and some are still in denial about it, but it still holds as possibility now, as the day Thomas A. Edison believed it was possible.

To speak to the dead.

Question time:

Can out of body afterlife people go the speed of light?

Can out of body afterlife achieve this effort on their own, or do they have to in the path of a greater energy?

I just thought up these questions, and my first thought of an answer would be this.

When I was out of my body. I was in a safe tought process, one where you do everything slow as you analyze your surroundings. Some times in life you don't get those chances. I like to feel I did a good job for the most part in mine. I based that on what I was thinking about at the time, and what I saw and didn't see. I never looked at my body when I was out of my body. Not that I did not know basically where it was, but the fact that I feared seeing it. You don't have to read my post for long, to know I am not big in details.

More of a Dr. Phil, touchy feely kind of guy.

Yes, I am still a guy.

Have you ever seen my picture?

I have one out there some where on the web. If anybody knows how to bring that here, sure would be awful nice of you.

Please take the time to see what product I am offering.

The parts are for sell.

Buy you a part of history.

Here is the worst scenario:

I have come and gone, and I can not make head or tells what you are doing toward this possibility.

I'm floating around, but I can not make out what you are saying.

Now I can connect my self to another human, but what does that do for me. they need their space, and I need mine.

Imagine for a moment that you are an out of body afterlife and you are sitting on top of your head right now, seeing what you are doing, but not having control of the movement of your head.

example:

Look straight a head as the head your thoughts are in, takes a slow turn to the right, like a big plane making a turn to the right in flight. Just do it real slow. Just remember, you have no control if you are floating out of your body, and you decide to connect to somebody.

Trust me, their is plenty energy around for you, when you are out of your body.

For one, you are space weight. You follow the laws of energy.

The fuel that you need to last is what you are made of, except you hold your own, based on the laws of inner space.

There is an inside to everything, regardless what that might be.

Think of your self in an out of body experience, like a pixel on a monitor screen, or a "Lite and Brite" toy.

You have those types of abilities, except you have the ability to have thought and move around at will. Some of the other pixel's have the ability to move around, based on their experiences, and their thought process would show up on a surface, after that, it would depend on us, if we would want to observe it.

What we might want to do, before we explore this possibility too far, is to explore your fears of this possibility.

Like any new thing, there is always some things to remember:

Don't get paranoid that afterlife are watching you. don't think that you have to act different in front of them. Just keep doing what you are doing, that type o situation will never be a part of this possibility.

For one:

Afterlife will never get permission to interact as a stalker. That type of filtering can be fixed at the get go.

Second: There is no second, because that will be fixed at one. Privilege communication.

Now I can only say that, if I am in charged, but I can't speak for other countries.

Never underestimate the human spirit. Afterlife is the opposite to explosion, but just like other mistakes we have made through history, maybe not as many, as grammar errors I make, but changing moments. We know that people don't like change, and some would be quite happy if slavery was always around, but we know that is not right, so we changed that, and we knew we should not separate anybody from anybody, but we do that now. I believe my idea in the future will answer a lot of these questions.

Is it wrong or right to try and speak with the dead for free.

Is it wrong or right to try and do this for as long as we can, not because of any other reason, than it is the right thing to do.

Is it wrong for me to ask you to help me make this idea a reality?

Is it wrong to ask the staff and patients of BrainGate for this opportunity?

Is it wrong for me to just keep asking questions that has never been asked before?

Is it wrong to ask for help in a field, that is lined with a field of charm bracelet possibilities, if the idea does work, as I envision it to be.

Is it wrong for me to believe that I could go on and on about this possibility in so many ways until the day I die, and I honestly believe my grammar will get better.

I truly wish I could go on and on, but that truly depends on how much value you are willing to give me.

Should I continue this topic or not. What do you think?

Do you want more, or have you already decided.

With what information you have to work with, do you feel thee is something there or not?

After reviewing my idea more. I feel it is more a concept, than an idea, because the resources are already in place.

It is nothing more than cross training.

A free concept:

Think about this:

Imagine you just died. You did not see that coming. The only thing that made it was your thoughts, and your vision. Yes you could still feel, and that does play a part in your movement abilities. Now for some of you floating in space. You will have a plan. The opportunity to move back to a machine that you have trained on, and have an opportunity to make history. No it is not mars, but it just might be there.

What do you think?

Even if you just viewed in the past, or this is your first time here. Please fill to reply this time.

Thank you for reading my thoughts,

Tim