The Department of Positive Out of Body Possibilities [Archive] - Page 5

Little 10 Toes

7th June 2008, 06:05 PM

Thank you for reading my thoughts,

The customer is always right, unless it pertains to company policies or procedures.But you haven't offered any services to anyone.

One of my goals is to treat you like a customer, even though I am only informing you about a topic that is growing everyday.But the only way it grows is with something new. You are continuing to tell the same things over and over again.

10% of six billion people, will have an out of body experience at some point in their life. It might even be you. Ignorance is expense and it will continue to be expensive until we try my idea.Proof of said statistic?

As a customer you are free to view this topic or not.

If you are only here to try and stop this possibility, or even delay the possibility, then you are just wasting your time.How am I wasting my time? You're the one, who when asked directly for proof, avoids answers.

What I said is recorded in this topic and it is free for all to see.

If you feel I am a liar, and you have lost all confidence in me. Please fill free to leave. You have my blessings. Don't waste another moment of your time here.I don't feel that you are a liar. Your actions have shown people that you are a liar. I feel that you are mistaken about your idea since you have shown no proof that your idea has the ability to succeed. How about you stop wasting your time here and provide proof? This is a skeptic board. You came here with some amazing claims that you have not backed up with proof. One of the reasons that I continue to post on this thread is to let others know of your continued lack of proof.

Company policy:

This has to be a good deal for the both of us.Sorry. Most companies don't have that as a mission statement, and so far what you have provided (or the lack thereof) isn't a good deal.

I live in an at will state:Please define that.

Our mind set is as follows:

If you don't like something. quit!Proof?

If you don't, all I can assume, and I hat to do that, but it looks like you are looking for negative attention. I hope that is not the case.I think that it is you who is looking for attention. What else might be a reason for you to spam the interwebs with your topic?

Now if I am totally wrong, then I am truly sorry, and I understand why you would won't to leave.We were here at this site first. It would be you who leaves here.

Good luck,
Now for everybody else, who wants to stay around. You will not believe what I am going to tell you in the weeks to come. We haven't even believed what you've told us so far, so we won't break the pattern.

I have no problems with negative comments, if they are aimed at the idea, not me. I am only sharing my thoughts, if you don't believe in them, please fill free to leave, and allow other the chance to come out of the closet.That's right, leave here, where you came and talked about an idea that has no foundation, and let others enjoy the same amount of non-proven ideas.

Other have given their life's to allow us the opportunity to share ideas like mine, and the least we can do is to return the favor.Names of said people who have given their lives so that you can talk about the afterlife?

So please don't think stupid, or waste our time, because from this point on, you will only be showing that you have a hidden agenda.

What is it? You must be the one with the hidden agenda Tim4848. I have asked you for proof of your claims (ranging from China has a BrainGate, sixty million people will have an out of body experiance, we all live inside energy, proof there is life after death, how a device that is designed to connect directly to the brain of a living person can work when it is not connected to anyone) and you have not provided any.

Why is it that you continue to avoid answering questions that are directed at your idea? Why haven't you provided any proof? Why don't you start "teaching" (and I use that word very loosely) on your own website where you don't have to listen to people asking for proof? Do you understand that most people here don't listen to you on your idea since 1) you cannot describe how to achive it, and 2) you haven't provided any proof? Why can't you do any of your own ideas? Why do you keep asking us to do your work?

amb

8th June 2008, 03:16 AM

Tim4848

8th June 2008, 04:01 AM

Thank you for reading my thoughts,

I have an idea concept. One that will have proof once it is done correctly.

For my idea to work. It will need support from the American people.

To do that. I will need an opportunity in prime time to make that happen.

The science will be in the results at the time of the experiment.

A BrainGate patient will be the one who will have the opportunity to do the experiment.

Instead of the censor being in their head before death. It will be out in the open.

The experiment will take place in a lit room for all to see.

The results of the experiment will take place on a big computer monitor.

At the time of the volunteered BrainGate death. National news will break in with a special report, and then every American will have the opportunity to watch the experiment happen.

At the time of the experiment, this possibility will draw a lot of attention.

We have seen man's first flight. We have seen man's first walk on the moon.

This will be no different.

Please take a moment to comprehend this.

The results are in the experiment, and the experiment can only happen after the death of a BrainGate patient, who wants to try this experiment, and they are allowed to do it.

We have to plant a seed, before we can expect to see something grow out of it.

I am sorry to those who thinks or expects results right now.

I don't make these things up.

The results can only happen after the death of the person doing the experiment.

Side note:

This is not my site, and I was not the first person here. This is my topic though, and I could care less about getting attention.

I am a introvert, and introverts don't care for attention.

I have brought this up on different occasions, so it should not be a surprise.

Now some claim that this is there site, or they were here first, so they must have some kind of bragging rights or something. They would lead you to believe that they are watching out for your best interest.

I like to call these people smoke screen people.

In the pizza business we call them sleezers, and they don't care about anybody but them self.

They complain that others are taking too many pizza deliveries at one time. Even though that is not true, as they try and take more deliveries them self's.

Most people in the past that has accused me of wanting attention on a site. Has always had more post that I do.

Please take the time to check that out if you like. Just bring up their profile, and see for your self.

Now for those who feel I don't have evidence. Needs to go back through this topic and read it more closely.

Side bar to those who like to take the time to examine my thoughts line by line.

Say what ever you want to say on this topic about what I have said. Go on and post like you are getting the last word, but in the big scheme of things. You are not.

You are here because of me. You have nothing to add to this topic that anybody really wants to here.

You spend your time at this topic because you know it is going some where and you want to be a part of that.

I look at things this way.

you are either going for wards or you are going back wards. You can not stay the same.

I plan on taking this topic forward, with or with out your help. i give you the chance to be a part of it, so you can take advantage of the opportunity, just like everybody else can.

I ask for nothing more at this time, than the opportunity to share it with everybody. So they can decide if they want to be a part of it as well.

Here is what I see. Every time I want to take this topic forward. You want to take it back wards. The question I have is why?

You act as if you have support.

Support for what?

I share my thoughts, and I want to turn some of those thoughts into action.

What is wrong with turning thoughts into action.

Why do you feel you need to to try and make me out to be the scum of the Earth?

Talk about some body who needs help.

Were you beaten as a child or what?

It is o.k. to agree to disagree, but to keep dragging it on. Just might be a little over kill.

Maybe you feel you have some kind of power, by trying to degrade other people. I hear their are people out there like that.

If you are into power, let me know. You are more than welcome to have all the power you want with this topic, if that makes you happy.

I am not into power, fame, or money.

I just want to see if my idea will work or not. If it don't work. Do with me as you like. I deserve it. What a fool I was to ever think it was possible. I don't even care if the idea works, and you banned me from ever having anything to do with it after that point.

I really don't care.

I would like to have that feeling of accomplishment if it does work. I know this idea is not mine, and others in the future, just like people in the past. will continue to have this thought.

If nothing else, they will know more about mine.

If nothing else, they will know where I was at.

I have named the equipment that can do it (BrainGate). I have explained the procedure on how we can do it, and how we can do it for free.

Sure I could go on and on about added bells and whistles, or even explain how I see it playing out, but you have to first decide what side of the line you are on.

Some feel that this site is designed to argue, just to be arguing, and they are just doing their part. I have no problem with that, but please put some effort into it.

Take the time to know the topic, and take less time thinking you know everything, because you don't. You truly don't.

I don't know everything, but I have taken the time to get better at a few things. Things that can be measured.

Did I make a lot of mistakes in these different fields along the way?

Sure I did, but I learned from those mistakes, as I have been doing with this topic.

Example:

This has to be a good deal for the both of us.

Yes, that is part of my mission statement.

Some feel I waste my time, trying to get you to understand better, but my vote is still out on that one.

Even though you have never given a good reason why you are here at this topic to begin with.

I have a reason to be here.

I am informing about my free idea concept to people who like to view this topic.

They never post anything on this site, they just view.

Most of them are not new to this site, because the views go way up with in 24 hours of any post on this topic.

I would like to thing they are here in support of the idea, but I can only assume.

I don't know if they like long post, or short ones. I don't know if they like me wasting my time talking to people who just like to post negative remarks on this topic.

I just don't know.

I guess I could go back on this topic and just add up everybody who has ever posted anything on this site, and assume it is all of them.

As you can see I love to analyze.

Is there a law against analyzing?

Thank you for reading my thoughts,

Tim4848

8th June 2008, 04:04 AM

Thank you for reading my thoughts,

I have some good news, and I have some bad news.

What would you like to hear first?

amb

8th June 2008, 04:15 AM

The good news please. I have to be back at work tommorow, so I couldn't possibly handle any bad news right now.

leonAzul

8th June 2008, 03:19 PM

The BrainGate System is designed to provide a means for people with severe motor impairment a new method to communicate with a computer directly with their thoughts.Link (http://www.cyberkineticsinc.com/content/clinicaltrials/braingate_trials.jsp)

That's not reciprocal; the computer does not inform the brain, but rather the other way around.

If you, Tim4848, can't comprehend that, then consider this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aO-TM9GA3Tg

:D

Little 10 Toes

8th June 2008, 09:12 PM

Little big toes, why do you bother? Watch it brother/sister, you may end up in the same assylum as Tim. Only females are supposed to shave their legs. Males can have problems when they try it and it does not improve the looks on male legs. Let's face it. Males do not have the curves that make hertosexual men go gaga at the sight of a beautiful females legs.

First off, "urb&p", it's 10. Not ten, or big. Secondly, I could be both options or neither. Third of all, male cyclists shave their legs to cut down on wind resistance. Just like boxers who shave their arms for the same reason, swimmers to cut down on drag, and streakers who shave their ...... wait, have I given TMI?

[Yes, I am being very sarcastic to ambnp. I did know a amateur cyclist who did shave his legs. The whole "boxers shaving" was stolen from an episode of "Taxi (http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxi_%28TV_series%29)" with Tony Danza. I'll take a guess about the swimmers, and I was being silly on the fourth.]

Tim4848

9th June 2008, 01:44 AM

Link (http://www.cyberkineticsinc.com/content/clinicaltrials/braingate_trials.jsp)

That's not reciprocal; the computer does not inform the brain, but rather the other way around.

If you, Tim4848, can't comprehend that, then consider this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aO-TM9GA3Tg

:D

Dear leonAzul,

I don't ever remember saying that the computer informs the brain.

I am counting on the patients of BrainGate to use their afterlife thoughts to communicate with BrainGate.

That will be when I have my evidence on this experiment, and not a day sooner.

Tim4848

9th June 2008, 02:04 AM

Thank you for reading my thoughts,

My one son just graduated collage. He is now a meteorologist.

He had to turn in this final paper before he could graduate, and it sounds like this paper must of been very good.

I guess there are these curtain type of tornadoes that kill a lot of people over the years, and up to this point. People in that field, said it was not possible to predict those type of tornadoes. I guess he has figured out a way.

They say you can take any historical information on these past tornadoes, and he can lay his formula over top them, and then he can show how it is done.

I remember one time on his birthday. He took a map, circled a spot on this map, and said there will be a tornado there, and there was one.

He has gotten a lot of praise from different people in his field about this paper.

They say that his idea could save a lot of lives in the future.

Now that in it self is good news, but there is more.

Would you like to hear more, or would you like to hear the bad news now?

amb

9th June 2008, 04:55 AM

First off, "urb&p", it's 10. Not ten, or big. Secondly, I could be both options or neither. Third of all, male cyclists shave their legs to cut down on wind resistance. Just like boxers who shave their arms for the same reason, swimmers to cut down on drag, and streakers who shave their ...... wait, have I given TMI?

[Yes, I am being very sarcastic to ambnp. I did know a amateur cyclist who did shave his legs. The whole "boxers shaving" was stolen from an episode of "Taxi (http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxi_%28TV_series%29)" with Tony Danza. I'll take a guess about the swimmers, and I was being silly on the fourth.]
Sorry about that. I thought you had a problem with your toes, hence ''big toes.'' Or little toes. :D :o Perhaps that amateur cyclist used his sport as an excuse to shave his legs, after all, he would need to be hairy like an ape for the hair to make any difference to drag efficiency. Swimmers? perhaps if a bit too hairy they could improve the drag by about 0001% by shaving their legs and about 003% their heads. :p

Little 10 Toes

9th June 2008, 08:48 AM

Dear leonAzul,

I don't ever remember saying that the computer informs the brain.

I am counting on the patients of BrainGate to use their afterlife thoughts to communicate with BrainGate.

That will be when I have my evidence on this experiment, and not a day sooner.

So you understand Tim4848, that the BrainGate device gets connected directly to a living persons brain. How then, can thoughts that have no brain to originate from, be detected? Please explain EXACTLY the execution of your experiment.

Loss Leader

9th June 2008, 02:25 PM

Tim -

Do you remember my last post: http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?postid=3740961#post3740961

Why should we trust anything you say when you have shown yourself to be a liar?

You lied when you said we could stop you. You lied when you kept posting. You lied when you tried to explain away your lies.

After all of that lying, why should anyone engage with you on any topic? How do we know you aren't lying about your thoughts? How do we know you aren't lying about believing in your BrainGate idea? How do we know you aren't lying when you explain how you want to test your idea?

Why should we trust you when we know that you lie?

Tim4848

9th June 2008, 07:36 PM

So you understand Tim4848, that the BrainGate device gets connected directly to a living persons brain. How then, can thoughts that have no brain to originate from, be detected? Please explain EXACTLY the execution of your experiment.

Good question Little 10 Toes,

"How then, can thoughts that have no brain to originate from, be detected?"

It did at one time have a brain to originate from. We will be measure that time as well.

Will that past information help us in the future?

I could not tell you at this time if it will or not, because we have not done the experiment yet.

Now for the rest of your question.

I believe that your inner thoughts do not need a brain to survive, if anything the brain actually limits your inner thoughts.

To actually operate your inner thoughts with out a body is a lot easier, because of the mass and the weight associated with it.

Do you have any idea how much your inner thoughts must do to keep you moving everyday.

Most people notice it on Thanksgiving after having a big meal.

Everything that goes on with you, takes extra energy.

The other option of being out of your body, and being a part of the energy around you. It gives you the opportunity to move around and touch different surfaces.

Yes there is some advantages to being a part of space as we know it.

Science knows that if they can take the sensor to the skull, they will get better results with the human patient at hand, but I am here to say, that they might get just as good results if they take the sensor to open space.

Can inner thought make this idea happen?

We will not know until we try it.

Does it sound like faith more than anything?

It might now

Things happen in life for a reason, and this idea is no different.

I just saw that movie today called "The Bucket List".

That is all my idea is.

A bucket list thing I would like to try before I kick the bucket.

Will my idea work like a bug zapper?

I hope not, but if others are afraid of that. I will be more than glad to try it first on the other side as well if you like.

Just give me the tools I need to make that happen.

Thank you for reading my thoughts,
:boxedin:Tim:boxedin:

Loss Leader

9th June 2008, 08:11 PM

I believe that your inner thoughts do not need a brain to survive, if anything the brain actually limits your inner thoughts.

Tim, how do we know that this is what you really believe since you have already shown by your actions to be a liar>

To actually operate your inner thoughts with out a body is a lot easier, because of the mass and the weight associated with it.

Why should we believe this when we know you are willing to lie.

I am here to say, that they might get just as good results if they take the sensor to open space.

Why should we trust a what a liar declares that he is here to say?

Does it sound like faith more than anything?

It sounds like the words of a known liar.

Things happen in life for a reason, and this idea is no different.

How can we believe you if you are likely to lie?

I just saw that movie today called "The Bucket List".

This could be another one of your lies.

Just give me the tools I need to make that happen.

You can't be trusted with tools.

Tim4848

9th June 2008, 08:27 PM

Tim, how do we know that this is what you really believe since you have already shown by your actions to be a liar>

Why should we believe this when we know you are willing to lie.

Why should we trust a what a liar declares that he is here to say?

It sounds like the words of a known liar.

How can we believe you if you are likely to lie?

This could be another one of your lies.

You can't be trusted with tools.

If that is all you are worried about. Please fill free to shackle my whole body as I help to make this happen.

If it makes you feel better. Think of me as one of those criminals that has to work in areas like this instead of making license plates or something.

Why do you waste so much time?

This idea is on my bucket list before I kick the bucket. Apparently it is not on yours.

Call me what ever you like, but the fact still remains, that this idea concept of mine is on my bucket list.

i offer it to everybody to have it on theirs as well, because I have faith in my inner thoughts. that as crazy at it might sound, it could happen.

We will never know unless we try.

Could Nicolas Cage be looking at my life as a future movie for him. Time will only tell on that, but he could play character with very little effort.

Thank our for reading my thoughts,

:crowded:Tim:crowded:

Tim4848

9th June 2008, 09:15 PM

Thank you for reading my thoughts,

Energy touching energy

afterlife is made up of energy, and if I am right. they assume a lot. They float around at will to what ever they want to do with in their realm.

They watch family members grow, and every other emotion.

At different times they go through different experiences. when it first happens to them.

They are scared, confused, and having to come to terms with their situation.

They are basically alone and isolated from everything else.

Even though some might question this possibility, the fact still remains that it could be possible.

The cold hard truth.

Our thoughts lean away from this possibility, as though we know this field of science, but we don't.

Just like me, we assume. we assume against the possibility, because if we are wrong. We sure did drop the ball on this one.

Think about it. Has our nation ever been wrong about anything before?

How long do some of these wrongs go on for?

Am I right. Who really knows at this point, but if I am right, liar or not. You still win!

How do you win?

Just like E.T., you have a way to phone home.

That is what I am talking about.

A free way to phone home, just in case you find your self in this situation.

This opportunity at hand, can only be possible, if we take the first step, and that is to agree on making it a valuable reality based on what we have to give up to make it a reality.

We don't have to give up much at all to do that.

Just some time and training with BrainGate patients, and having the machine and staff around to try it after the patients death.

What do you have to do?

Nothing

If I am wrong, what are you out?

Nothing

If I am right. What are you out?

Nothing

sounds like a win, win for you regardless.

I can read the headlines now.

Lying kid does good, just like his son.

Read all about it.

Don't give up until the afterlife lady sings.

Thank you for reading my thoughts,

Tim

Tim4848

9th June 2008, 09:58 PM

Thank you for reading my free invisible thoughts,

We have a machine now that can read your thoughts. Do you need it now?

No

You are quite capable of taking your thoughts any where you want to go.

Do with your thoughts in what ever way you want too.

Visualize as much as you like, and get into what ever you would like to do.

It is invisible to me what you ever think about, but it don't have to be that way.

You have choices in your life, and this idea concept could be one of those choices.

If your capable of doing it with out me, then please fill free to do that.

a preacher right now might want an amen or something, but all I ask is to move your head around any way you would like.

If it is in no to this possibility, then that is fine, but if you are like me, and feel or think that there just might be more to this than you can see right now, then by all means. Help me make this happen.

I am only as good with what I have to work with, and that is you.

For those of you who have been following my topic for a while, might remember me saying a while back that everything takes it's allotted amount of time, and this topic will be no different.

That time might be about to happen real soon.

My son will be in a weather reality show on NBC this fall during a prime time hour. They want him to do eight episodes. He will be the main character of this show. His girl friend will be on the show as well.

I wonder what the odds of a person who believes he knows how to communicate with the dead, will have a son on prime time this fall?

I would imagine he will be on all the late shows, morning shows, and everything else.

10% of six billion people will have an out of body experience at some point in their life, and that is just the ones a live now. To me that should tell you something, and that is our body is quite capable of doing it, and all we really need to do, is give our bodies the tools it needs to try and make it work.

I guess I should call my son and see how things are going. What do you think?

Thank you once again for reading my invisible thoughts,

:)Tim:)

Loss Leader

10th June 2008, 07:41 AM

Tim, you said you would stop if you didn't get 25,000 views. You fell short of 25,000 views but now you refuse to stop. You lied.

Call me what ever you like, but the fact still remains, that this idea concept of mine is on my bucket list.

How do we know this? You could be lying.

i offer it to everybody to have it on theirs as well, because I have faith in my inner thoughts.

You could be lying right now.

afterlife is made up of energy, and if I am right. they assume a lot. They float around at will to what ever they want to do with in their realm.

I don't know why anyone should trust your assertions. You've proven yourself to be a liar.

They are scared, confused, and having to come to terms with their situation. They are basically alone and isolated from everything else.

I have no reason to take your word for this as you are a known liar.

The cold hard truth.

You are hardly the person to state the cold, hard truth. You have proven by your actions to be contemptuous of the truth.

Am I right. Who really knows at this point, but if I am right, liar or not. You still win!

Wouldn't it be easier for us to investigate the ideas of someone who we know is not a liar?

This opportunity at hand, can only be possible, if we take the first step, and that is to agree on making it a valuable reality based on what we have to give up to make it a reality.

I don't believe that. I think you are lying again.

I can read the headlines now.

No, you can't. You're a liar.

We have a machine now that can read your thoughts.

No one has ever seen such a machine. Are you lying?

I am only as good with what I have to work with, and that is you.

Some people are only as good as their word and yours is the word of a liar.

My son will be in a weather reality show on NBC this fall during a prime time hour. They want him to do eight episodes. He will be the main character of this show. His girl friend will be on the show as well.

How can we know this? You have proven to all that you are a liar.

What do you think?

I think that we cannot trust you because you are a liar.

Tim4848

10th June 2008, 06:09 PM

Tim, you said you would stop if you didn't get 25,000 views. You fell short of 25,000 views but now you refuse to stop. You lied.

How do we know this? You could be lying.

You could be lying right now.

I don't know why anyone should trust your assertions. You've proven yourself to be a liar.

I have no reason to take your word for this as you are a known liar.

You are hardly the person to state the cold, hard truth. You have proven by your actions to be contemptuous of the truth.

Wouldn't it be easier for us to investigate the ideas of someone who we know is not a liar?

I don't believe that. I think you are lying again.

No, you can't. You're a liar.

No one has ever seen such a machine. Are you lying?

Some people are only as good as their word and yours is the word of a liar.

How can we know this? You have proven to all that you are a liar.

I think that we cannot trust you because you are a liar.

Is that the best you have Loss Leader?

What is an Opinionated Jerk Tagger?

Little 10 Toes

10th June 2008, 08:11 PM

amb

11th June 2008, 02:43 AM

Tim and homeopathy, and scientology have much in common. Balderdash.
Scientologist have their e-meter, Tim has some cartoon like contraption called a braingate.

Loss Leader

11th June 2008, 07:34 AM

Is that the best you have Loss Leader?

No.

What is an Opinionated Jerk Tagger?

Technically, it's "Opinionated Jerk, Tagger." They're two separate things. A Tagger is someone who can add and delete tags to a thread in order to make searching for common concepts much easier. This thread might have the tag "OBE" so that anyone interested in Out of Body Experiences will know that there is information about it here. They won't, of course, be able to know the quality of the information.

"Opinionated Jerk" is just my Indian name.

Tim4848

12th June 2008, 12:36 AM

No.

Technically, it's "Opinionated Jerk, Tagger." They're two separate things. A Tagger is someone who can add and delete tags to a thread in order to make searching for common concepts much easier. This thread might have the tag "OBE" so that anyone interested in Out of Body Experiences will know that there is information about it here. They won't, of course, be able to know the quality of the information.

"Opinionated Jerk" is just my Indian name.

Very interesting.

Tim4848

12th June 2008, 01:42 AM

"Here's a good analogy: I'll place EKG sensors in the air. This will then tell me my heart rate."

That is close to my idea, but not quite.

Do the same thing with the BrainGate sensor, and then pick a time and place for the afterlife brainGate patient to meet there.

I wish I could give you evidence now of the possibility, as some one is able to use a fish finder or something, but we have nothing like that at this time.

All past, or present information regarding evidence in this field, has no way of being validated, but I feel with my idea stands the best chance, because it allows the patient the opportunity to make it work.

Example:

I knock on the front door of your house.

You decide if you want to answer the door or not.

I can not tell if you are in your house or not. All I can do is assume.

You look through you peep hole and see that it is me, and decide you don't want to have anything to do with me.

I understand, that is your choice.

I leave and don't come back.

In this situation, we both made a decision.

You decide not to open the door, and I decide to leave.

I believe my idea concept is giving afterlife an option they did not have before, because we did not have an option like this before.

Imagine you are at an amusement park.

They have this one game, where you point this squirt gun at this bulls eye, and if you get the water to hit the bulls eye, then the friction from the water makes the bulls eye to lean back that causes something to happen, and if you do a better job at this than your competition, then you might win a prize.

Energy works the same way. Your inner thoughts outside of your body is still making friction, and if you had a plan like the one I am suggesting, then you would move to the surface of the braingate sensor, and begin to apply your thought friction. You would see your results on the monitor that is with the BrainGate sensor.

An EKG sensor would do you no good, because afterlife don't have hearts, just thoughts, vision and the ability to move around. You still do have thought emotions, just like you do all your other thoughts, but no heart to measure like you are suggesting.

Bad news time:

My one son who is going to be on NBC this fall, was the same son I was hoping to help me make the video about this topic. I still plan on making the video, but I might have to see if I can get one of my other sons to help me now.

Thoughts about my idea:

Why could my idea work?

Because the experiment is broken down in such a way that is so simple.

Will every body believe it, if it happens?

Not if some still don't believe we landed on the moon.

I would imagine even after they put in there pin number, some will still think it is a trick, or some evil spirit is doing it or something.

You can't please everybody.

If I am right, and I feel I am.

You will have an option that has never been available to you or anybody else before.

Thomas A. Edison believed it was possible, and so do I.

I already believe you can see evidence of it. just by practicing that type of doodling I showed you before.

Inking up the surface of space.

I also believe you can see it, if you happen to have past relatives floating around you now.

Just act like you are going to do something bad, that can be seen through out the room you are in, and wait to see if something happens.

Maybe your animal will do something, if you have one, or your phone will go off, and somebody will be calling you about some type of distraction. We can only think about one thing at a time, and anytime we do something that looks like we are out of our character, at least for our family tree, then this might happen.

They don't pop up like something out of Ghost Busters or something, but they just might get your attention in a different way.

Can this be measured now?

Probably not, but if my experiment works, maybe then it could be.

Will an out of body afterlife BrainGate patient ever do an interview on the Larry King show?

Not unless we hurry up with the idea, or maybe one day Larry king could do it from this state himself. Now that would be something.

Am I hoping my idea will work?

No, my inner thoughts believe it is possible.

Is my inner thoughts hoping this will work?

Good question, I can't say right now with certainly. I believe my inner thoughts have given me the ability to go this direction with the concept. It leads me to believe it is possible.

Thank you for reading my invisible thoughts and please fill free to add yours as well to this topic,

Tim

cos

12th June 2008, 05:23 AM

Hello again, Tim.

An EKG sensor would do you no good, because afterlife don't have hearts, just thoughts, vision and the ability to move around. You still do have thought emotions, just like you do all your other thoughts, but no heart to measure like you are suggesting.

Yes! Precisely. An EKG would not detect any "afterlife people" because it requires a heart to measure.

What you don't seem to realize is that the Braingate operates on the same principles as an EKG. Both devices detect electrical activity in different parts of the body. They're very similar in a fundamental way; they really only differ in what they do with the data they collect. The Braingate is much more complex, certainly, but it receives the same basic sort of input.

Remember, the Braingate does not detect thoughts. It does not have a "thought sensor" anywhere on it. It has electrical sensors, exactly like an EKG.

How did you determine that the one will work for your experiment, but not the other?

Fasto

12th June 2008, 08:29 PM

Tim4848

13th June 2008, 02:47 AM

Hello again, Tim.

Yes! Precisely. An EKG would not detect any "afterlife people" because it requires a heart to measure.

What you don't seem to realize is that the Braingate operates on the same principles as an EKG. Both devices detect electrical activity in different parts of the body. They're very similar in a fundamental way; they really only differ in what they do with the data they collect. The Braingate is much more complex, certainly, but it receives the same basic sort of input.

Remember, the Braingate does not detect thoughts. It does not have a "thought sensor" anywhere on it. It has electrical sensors, exactly like an EKG.

How did you determine that the one will work for your experiment, but not the other?

Good question cos,

I was keeping it simple.

His question was this:

"Here's a good analogy: I'll place EKG sensors in the air. This will then tell me my heart rate."

My idea concept will not find heart rates in space. It will find friction. the friction you will get from the out of body afterlife energy. This energy has the potential to be detected by the BrainGate sensor.

I use his example because I thought it would help him to understand, since that seams to be the closest he has gotten to understanding it so far.

I am counting on the afterlife BrainGate patients to take their energy thoughts right to the BrainGate sensor. I am expecting the staff of BrainGate will try their hardest to make that connection.

Think for a second that energy is two things. My finger and some body else's for head.

I can smack their fore head all day long with movement and friction, but unless they understand it in a way that works for them. I am just a pain.

Taking my finger a sticking it in a light socket, don't mean anything to me, but take an afterlife and their energy, and match it up to BrainGate and it's way of measuring friction to it's programming, then throw in past results of that patient, when it's energy was confined to a skull, and you have more to go on than we have ever tried before. Why?

Because the staff of BrainGate has experience in this field

The patients have experience in this field

The patients experience with this machine has been saved.

I don't care what you call me, just as long as you call me when it is time to eat.

That is where my topic is for afterlife.

We as humans like to do things in baby steps, and we are very uncomfortable when It comes to jumping to the end of the follow through in anything. We would rather savor in what we have now, than plan for the future.

we have tried this experiment with animals and it worked. It worked so good, we tried it with humans. Now we need to invite it to the afterlife.

They don't care what you call them. Call them evil spirits or Angels, just make sure you invite them to the kitchen table as well.

I have heard and read about a lot of different things in my life about all type of paranormal activities, and of all the ones I have read. they all fall under my idea concept.

Imagine for a moment you are an afterlife just floating around.

If you want to communicate back with humans now. What options do you have?

Some believe that they can rewind tapes and hear voices, when afterlife do not even have a mouth to make a voice.

Some has spoke of lights flickering at viewings of past love ones, but what does that mean?

How do you measure it?

There is so many questions that could be answered if I am allowed to try my idea concept.

If it don't work, what are we out?

Almost nothing

Who should take the blame if it don't work?

Me

That in it self is a deal for you. If it don't work, blame me, and I will take Full Responsibility for my thoughts and my actions. Now if it does work.

You win!

What is the upside:

a better run country

More jobs right here in America

The potential for every past icon in our Nation history to return.

A chance to see if afterlife evolve

A chance to get almost every question of history answered

A chance to see how we can plant tools into outer space that can be used by afterlife.

Example:

Imagine that we now know more about afterlife, and we are better at communicating with them, that we launch ships into space at the speed of light, because we can always place an afterlife in it later. They could potentially float the speed of light to reach these type of ships.

Never underestimate all that we could do, if we have better information.

How good could the next President be, if he had mentors like George Washington to actually console in, or maybe some one like Ronald Reagan, John F. Kennedy.

Talk about a potential fantasy cabinet.

People like our founding fathers, or people that helped form this country.

Energy can not be destroyed, so they all could potentially be there.

An exception to that might be, if they decided to take off in space and travel many light years away. Albert Einstein might do something like this, and if he did, then it might be years before we might be able to hear from him again.

Is Elvis still in our galaxy. We won't know unless we start to make plans in this area of science.

Everything happens for a reason, and this idea concept is no different.

To some I ramble on, but this topic covers so much ground, because it basically effects everything we do, know, experience, feel, except for what we see now.

10% of 6 billion people will have an out of body experience. Regardless how long they have it for will not matter, because you will never see it.

In some ways, you almost think it is a human recall, because so many of these people actually come back from the experience with genius I.Q.s.

If you go way back in my topic, you will find a Dr. At water who has done a study on this.

You could also look at these experiences as short term trips, compared to the one they might have after they die.

Those would be long term trips of energy.

I believe we have to start with the fundamental of the concept first, and keep it simple with the best odds we have, and that is the patients of BrainGate.

I believe that this one piece of the puzzle will bring the whole picture home once and for all.

Carol Burnett once said " About the time I got my head on straight, my whole body fell a part"

Ignorance is expensive, and if I am the ignorant one, so be it, but if you are wrong. You will have to live with that mistake for the rest of your energy never dies thought life.

Since I first started this topic, I think back in 2005. I did not even know of a BrainGate. That is how far this topic has evolved.

Now I know how we can do it for free!

What else do you want?

Besides my family, and my new job. I enjoy analyzing the pick 3 in Ohio, playing chess on Pogo, doodling, playing 8 ball.

I found in the pick 3 that your imagination can only take you so far at picking numbers on a regular basis, and in chess I find that I like the challenge of playing another invisible mind, and that I do play better when I have balance in so many different fields in my thoughts. Imagining what I want to do, the drama of what they might do, what laws you must follow, and what price you must pay, if you make a wrong move. When I doodle, I think about other things, other than what I am drawing, I just run the pen up and down the page facing North, and sub consciously I do try and keep the shadow of the lines the same shade, that I keep the lines as close as possible, or at least in a shadow area, if i decide to take my glasses off. I have found. that even though I can not see up close very well, that I draw some very good pictures in this space, of where one shadow is, to where I am drawing, but just the same, I don't for the most part watch what is being dawned, until I am all done with it.

Now you would think that all the picture would have to offer was some lines up and down, but that is never the case.

Faces like you would not believe.

Science could say that it is an association, where maybe your mind is playing a trick on you. Now you could be in a desert, and think you see water up a head and walk right out of that desert and find real water, and maybe that is a trick your brain uses on you to get you out of pain and into pleasure.

they say that we are the smartest animals on this planet, and most of us is trying to learn something everyday. Why is that?

Because after the smoke clears, we don't know everything.

My idea concept might help in that area, as it will help in so many different area's of our life.

Some might worry about this or that, and i totally understand that.
my local news must think it helps their ratings, if they can keep me so scared of everything, that I just stay home and listen to them.

It was really bad after 911.

They say we have mad cows, killer bugs, white stuff in our mail, you name it.

We have nothing to fear but fear it self.

Once the private sector is allowed to sell in that new market, they will go out of their way to isolate all the evil spirits anyway. They will give them their own cable or something. They can watch old hanging or electrical chair movies or something.

Sure the supreme Court will probably give them rights down the road, basing it on the fact that they paid their debt to humans, when they did get hung, or electrocuted, and we will be able to answer those issues as well.

I imagine if my idea works, the pain and pleasure will change in our culture.

We might be more quick to place somebody on death row, then allow then curtain types of communication privileges after they are in an out of body state. Who knows, so many different mind map options.

Getting back to the history of this topic. since I first started it, my mother has been losing her memory. Now how will this play out in her afterlife?

I don't know, and I won't know, unless we begin to put our self in a position of measuring these types of things.

In our society it is o.k. to have your insides taken out, and place your life on the line to look skinny, and the money they pay to do these type of things, and others that is just as dangerous, but when somebody comes along and offers you an opportunity like the one I am offering, you just want to criticize, condemn, and complain about it.

Like it or not, but we ain't getting any younger.

Unless you know something that I don't know, we had no control coming into this world, we will have no control when we leave, so why not try now and see if you can put a Real limb out there just in case you are able to land on it, as you are thrown over the cliff at death.

Thank you for reading my invisible energy friction thoughts that should be able to be measured on BrainGate that measure friction and not actual thoughts, and it don't get any better than this for Free No I did not stutter about your potential future afterlife only back up plan out their besides your religion,

Tim

Tim4848

13th June 2008, 03:16 AM

Well... I've been reading this threat for a while now...

Tim, I think that one of the main problems with your idea is that you're fully relying on a technology that doesn't actually exist. Braingate is meant to receive information from people's brains - but it needs to be 'connected' to a physical organ, it does not simply pick up 'thoughts' that are floating around in the air.
Saying that we'd only need to modify Braingate to be able to pick up those kinds of signals (if they even exist!) is literally like announcing that you've found a way of making people float - we already have shoes, we only need to modify the design in order for them to lift people off the ground.
Don't you understand the problem here?
Your whole idea is based on a modification of the braingate machine that doesn't exist.
It's like saying that we can fly using cars, if we only modify the design. Well done, they're called planes. But they're not simply a modification of cars, they're an entirely different machine!
Also, I hate to have to correct your spelling, but I think I might explode if I ever have to read "please fill free" or "everything in life takes it's allotted amount of time" again.
It's "feel free". The verb is "to feel". You know... feelings! Feel free to argue with this, but I'm sure I'm right. Also, "It's" with an apostrophe means "It is". The possessive "Its" is spelled without an apostrophe. Feel free - and - its allotted amount of time.

Thank you for reading my thoughts Fasto as long as you have.

My goal has not been to perfect my bad grammar, at least not at this time.

I can understand how you feel, but you are missing the biggest part of the big picture here.

They have made cars that can do all type of things, but they were only able to do that because they saw a need and decided to focus on that.

I imagine at some point we have paid for a lot of ear marks, like the one that sends messages out in space, so possible culture that are more advance than us can come see us one day, if they have not already, and we have devises that listen for noise in outer space, but when it comes to inner space we have nothing. My idea concept can change that.

By starting where I am suggesting is just the tip of the ice burg.

Look how far we have come with flight after we decided to focus on it.

If I remember right, the Right Brothers use to live right down the road from me one time.

I understand to you that it might be hard to comprehend, but that might just be where you are at with it at this point in history.

You don't know at this point for sure do you. Might seam hard to imagine huh?

I mean what our the odds that this pizza maker out of Dayton Ohio would come along and claim that if we actually took the time and did this experiment correctly from start to finish, that it just might work.

Probably sounds about as crazy as all the other things we have learned along the way in history as we know it from our point of view.

Have you ever noticed how sensors act crazy when it is not positioned correctly on your body. They seam to act crazy don't they.

I was once told this from a person I respected, and I have never forgot it.

Either you know or you don't know, never assume.

At this time we both don't know, and it will remain that way until we bring something new to the table.

My idea concept is that new thing, and i have figured out a way to do it for free, if anything, amuse me and allow me the opportunity to try it, and as I said before, if I am wrong, I take full responsibility for my thoughts on and actions on this.

If you don't feel this is possible, and you would like to take your invisible thoughts and go follow the Big Foot topic, because they speak better their, that is your choice, but if you are like me, and can see the simplicity of this possibility, if allowed the opportunity to be done right, and given the chance to be focused on like the plane or car, then please feel free to support me in my effort.

"Paradigm Hope"

Thank you for reading my invisible thoughts,

Tim

amb

13th June 2008, 03:46 AM

Tim4848

14th June 2008, 01:45 AM

Thank you for reading my thoughts,

"it needs to be 'connected' to a physical organ"

It don't need too!

Who said it needs too?

they place the sensor o the scull to get better signals, that is all. They want to get as close to the action as they can, not that they have too. Other foreign companies in this field has already prov en that the sensor does not need to be implanted in the brain.

There is enough energy leaving your body, for them to get results in this field.

Will they get as the same results they are getting now?

We don't know yet, because we have not tried anything yet.

It's easy to assume, but that don't work.

This idea is nothing more than follow through to what they are already doing.

An energy wave is a energy wave, and just like a radio wave, it can be measured.

To make a long story short. You can say what ever you want about my idea or my concept, but you don't really know if it will work or not.

I would imagine there was a time when people doubted we could get a plane to fly on invisible space, but they did it.

I would imagine it is normal, since you have always thought it had to be a curtain way, but that don't make it so.

It just like our next election. It seams like a lot of people don't really like either one of the two candidates running for office, but rules being the way they are, we are going to pick one of them.

I'm sorry that we have not got my idea up to rocket science yet, because it is so simple, but some of the greatest discoveries are pretty simple.

Now some say, we must die and that is it, because there is no proof that it can be done.

How is that different that what the wright brothers did?

There was no proof that man could fly, until we did it.

My proof is at the moment of truth, after the Braingate patient dies, and I am sorry that a this moment of truth can't come any sooner.

Why can't it come any sooner?

One reason off the top of my head. You don't take it serious enough.

sure go out and have your fun before you die. Live it up, if that is what you are into, but we still should try this idea.

It's free, and you don't have to do a single thing.

I have said on many occasions, that you can do to me what ever you like, if the idea don't work, but you can't even wait for that.

You want to attack me now.

If somebody came up to me, and said that he could do this, and I did not have to do a thing, and I might make out in the deal. I would say go for it!

What ever your hang up is with this possibility. Let it go. Practice your breathing or something.

Do what you like to do and let it go.

At least give me the opportunity to say I told you so.

Am I hurting any one with this idea?

No

It reminds me of a story.

I once heard this elderly lady was going back to college to get a degree in something.

Her friends told her that she was crazy, because she would be 74 or something when she graduates. Her response was something like this. I will still be 74 at that time, but I will have a diploma.

When doctors discovered that washing your hands before surgery could cause a positive out come, it was not rocket science. Looking back now it seams simple enough.

I understand that you might be having a hard time seeing, touching and feeling this concept at this time, but that don't make it impossible.

As I said earlier in this topic, that this topic has evolved while I have been talking about it. If by any chance we do run into problems with the sensor, we can make different adjustments to it.

There is more than one way to feed my cat.

The last thing you want to do is shoot the messenger, because you don't get it at this time, or try and right it off, because you are having trouble comprehending the concept.

Yes it is true that I bounce around on this topic, but later after we get things in place for this possibility, we can always dive into any of it with more details.

Don't get hung up on the details.

Sure you can create your own opinion, but in all reality, it is nothing but a opinion.

Now you can say that about my concept as well, but at least I have an action plan that don't hurt anybody and it is free!

Please don't make me bring up the lobster story again.

"there is not a scrap of evidence that ''mind'' survives death. Once the brain is flat lining, or dead, it's just a a mush of gray matter and water and nothing more. Mind dies with the brain."

How can you expect to ever have a scrap of evidence, if you don't give the evidence a chance to happen?

You sound real convincing when you say we are dead when we flat line,even though you have no evidence that this is the case, and some where back in this topic. You should be able to find evidence that people have come back after being considered flat lined.

Even when I had my out of body experience the doctor had thought that she had lost me.

Now for your example to even be close to being true, you would have to have something that is consistent, and the only thing you have, is the fact that you don't allow idea's like these to be tried.

How is it, that some have out of body experience, and come back smarter than before the experience?

They are not getting any blood to the brain, but they come back smarter. Must be like that lucky cigarette or something.

The only problem we are having right now, is you trying to comprehend the whole thing.

You might believe one way about this topic as far back as you can remember, but that don't make it true.

My experiment is no different that what Thomas A. Edison would do with one of his experiments. Try different things until you find one that works.

You always have to have a starting point, and my idea concept is this one.

I am amazed that you would want to settle for less. This is America. The land of opportunity.

We can do anything we set our mind too.

Not to mention that this field of science will naturally get even better in the future.

For those of you out there who think you know it all, with out any evidence, are actually on the wrong side of this opportunity.

Either you know or you don't know.

I have a free action plan

What do you have?

Thank you for reading my thoughts,

Tim

wollery

14th June 2008, 02:59 AM

Tim4848

14th June 2008, 04:48 AM

Thank you for reading my thoughts,

Like it or not, but you are a part of evolution.

Every day is a gamble, and we do our best to stay on top of it. People see what they want to see, and how close to home it touches them, and how they see things in general.

I totally understand what direction you are coming from. I have been there. I have not always thought this way.

Common sense would lead you to believe that it is not possible, but after having different experiences through out my like, and taking the time to examine it. I have to change my vote when it comes to this possibility.

There are to many signals in life, that leads this direction.

the first example:

The core of many people beliefs.

Believe!

That is a simple message. It is not rocket science, but I bet it helped people in the field of rocket science.

I am not a liar, if you think of me in that way, then you are wrong.

I will always be tougher on my self than you could ever be on me.

My goal in my life is to do everything right, so I have nothing to worry about.

Am I perfect?

No

Do I know everything at this time?

No, but I do see the need to have a starting point, and this (free) concept is a good place to start.

Are we really out anything?

No

How do I see it playing out?

Positive!

What is wrong with being positive?

Who am I hurting with positive?

Why do you think we should not try, and please take out the emotions.

Did you bet on that one horse to win the triple crown?

Tim Russert passed away today. I was listening about it on the Sean Hannity show while I was delivering pizza's.

My thoughts and prayers go out to his family.

Sean talked about how positive he was, and how he was such a family man.

He spoke about this one time, when he heard that his son had gotten a tattoo. He ran up the stairs to the room where his wife and son was in. Then he began yelling and screaming at his son about the tattoo, when his wife and son pointed out that the tattoo had Tim's and Tim's father name on it.

At this point Tim started balling in tears.

It is easy to draw curtain conclusions, especially if they have been in grained into everything you do.

Why is it that more people are interested in hearing or seeing some body get executed, than throw a little energy toward communicating with afterlife.

I believe if nothing else, that if we focused on this possibility, we could get positive results.

I have no doubt, when the time comes, that I could fix any problem with my idea.

Example:

Do you feel helpless in your thoughts?

Do you feel it controls you more than you control it?

Do you believe your inner thoughts could pick the pick three number in Ohio tomorrow?

Does your inner thoughts have that possibility?

Some say they do from time to time.

they talk about how it just came to them.

Have you ever just have something come to you?

To get the full impact of my plan, you almost have to get trained on what mind set the patients will be in.

They will need be trained a curtain way.

A keep it simple touchy feel way.

Just like our troops, they will need your support.

I did not stutter,

You need to get this or it won't happen, and in the big scheme of things, you really do want this to happen.

You want to put it right there in your wallet.

a pin number

Pick one, place it in your wallet.

Now this pin number don't mean a thing, unless it is used for something.

Nothing to buy, no new Government agency, just take a piece of paper, make a square up and down doodle, like I have talked a bout before, and write what your back up plan wishes are.

You could write that you don't want to have anything to do with my idea. Now you would think, that was the case, why even have a pin number in your wallet to begin with. especially one geared toward your potential back up plan.

Example:

A police man goes through your personal belongings after they decided that you are dead, and they find your note. the one you decided to write.

You placed your doodle stamp on it, and you say that you would like the opportunity to try my idea at some point in the future.

By placing your own note in your pocket, or some where you like.

You have a back up plan.

I am like Clark Howard. I save you a lot of red tape, and I do it for free.

Add me to your will. i will be your go to guy in this field.

Just like the movie Miracle on 34th street. (I loved the black and white version)

That has always been my favorite movie. I cried every time Natalie Woods would yell to stop the car.

anyway, remember that one part of the movie, where they sent all those letters address simply Santa.

I am no Santa, but I would like to be your go to guy in this field.

If my son can have a reality show, why not put me in one, so you can better decide.

Sure you could throw me in a straight jacket and lock me away some where like they were going to do to Santa, and I could get depressed about that, but what type of evolution is that?

Some has searched for Al antis

Some has searched for the Ark

Some looks to the stars for the answers

I look to you, and you, and you, and you.

Wake up, and don't think stupid anymore.

Break out of it

Make it a goal to write this pin number of yours down some where.

Write down what ever you want it to be.

Cover the number and letters up if you like.

It can be as long as you want it to be.

Now what do we do?

That depends on you.

If I am allowed to do my idea concept for free, with no strings attached, as long as I don't bring additional harm to anyone, then we are set.

To have a go to guy, you have to place them in that position.

That is only for your best interest.

If at any time, you would like to see where the topic has evolved too, then you will be free to do that.

everybody needs some body, and in this field, I will be your go to guy. Over time, we can always change that, but that will be your choice as well.

Example:

Lets say the idea works before you die, then you might decide to get a more professional pin number, and also have all the new perks that will always be there.

the model T days are over, everybody wants options.

That is what my idea is, an option.

I wish we could just take my idea down to the nearest vocational school, and ask the kids their to do this as a pet project, but we can't at this point in our vocational schools.

If you feel thinking positive about this idea is a waste of time, then don't write a pin toward this possibility, and do what ever you want to do with your life.

Regardless if you took a moment and did something like this, or not. You both can go on with your life, regardless if you did make a pin number or not.

I know I don't have to tell you what the options i feel you might have if you try mine.

Do you believe in Santa Claus?

Everything effects everything, and my topic is no different.

You remember that Clint Eastwood movie where he was suppose to fight this real good fighter, and everybody was wanting to see it.

Do you want to see it, or would you like to see me get thrown to the bus, every which way but loose.

Examples:

Energy can ark at any place because energy is every place.

If you believe in your inner energy, maybe you had an out of bod experience like me, but you are a afraid to come out of the closet about it yet.

take action, write a pin number down, and support my actions to make this free idea happen.

Summer school stuff:

Go find out more about all of "Murphy's law" on the Internet. then you will see that my idea concept is possible.

Part of your future evolution, just might believing a part of this concept.

Now you might be like me, and can only focus on one thing at a time, and sense you have already been carry around your belief this long. Why change it now. it is easier to pick on Tim, than help lay the first layer of this possibility. Paradigm hope.

i am not a religion, or anything like that. More like an explorer, just like Daniel Boone once was, as he explored this great country.

We know that leaves are dead, and if a animal dies, we don't really worry about it, because we could not actually talk to them anyway.

Now with a human, that is different.

We have been trained to believe that we should follow our dreams. Now why do you think or feel that is the case? brainGate only came out in 2005. It is new, Your belief in this field happened way before 2005. that is why it is normal for you to feel the way you feel. You have done nothing wrong.

Now some might feel they are just helping to save you and me some time.

Go to the mall, spend money or something.

The economy is down because people are staying at home and paying bills.

Please don't stay home on this possibility

All I am asking is your support toward this possibility.

I understand that this is a lot to take in at one time. Please fill free to print it out, read it some more, kick the tires or where ever you like to go to your cave and think, but when you return, try and think this way.

You want to hear more, and for me to proceed to share my thoughts about this topic

You want closing arguments, and then you will come back with a verdict.

Some times in life, you have to see past that silly common sense, and believe in something, even though it might seam silly.

Just in case one day you wake up after death and find that I just might be right.

It's simple

It's free

It's safe

Make your pin number a charm bracelet for the future, I don't care.

I argue the fact that you can't take anything with you when you die.

Energy can not be destroyed, and our inner thoughts have shown with people who have had out of body experiences, that our body knows exactly how to do it.

TjW

14th June 2008, 09:10 AM

If you don't need a brain, why would you need a BrainGate?

wollery

14th June 2008, 09:29 PM

Tim4848

15th June 2008, 01:52 AM

Except that the braingate device needs to be implanted in a living brain. Which you clearly did not understand.

Why should anyone subscribe to your idea when you clearly don't understand how the device you want to use works?

BrainGate is planted in the brain now, because that is the way they are using it now.

How have you been doing wollery. I'm sorry to hear about the Earthquake in your country. Are you doing o.k.?

Tim4848

15th June 2008, 03:45 AM

Thank you for reading my invisible thoughts,

My mental profile at this time:

Adaptable analytical Animated

About this topic:

Persistent Persuasive Peaceful Self-sacrificing Sociable

Strong-willed convincing Sensitive Patient Positive Refreshing

Respectful spirited Promoter Spontaneous Sure

Considerate Playful Out-spoken Optimistic friendly

Inspiring Deep Mixes easily Funny Diplomatic

Talker Leader Mediator Thoughtful Independent Confident

Pleasant Changeable Skeptical Blunt Repetitious Argumentative Proud

Unpredictable Forgetful Behaved Secure Loner Enthusiastic, and Loyal to this possibility.

When time permits:

Listener Perfectionist Detailed Chart Maker Introvert

Organized Involved Workaholic Productive Resourceful

Planner Idealistic Deep

Media Outlets: Interviews will be available, Do not post commercial advertisements.for details.

Production Companies:

My Doodling Art and imagination about this topic is available for production
use. Do not post commercial advertisements.

Public Speaking:

I am available for public speaking about this topic, Do not post commercial advertisements.

Thank you for reading my invisible thoughts,

Tim

wollery

15th June 2008, 08:23 AM

BrainGate is planted in the brain now, because that is the way they are using it now.It's implanted in the brain because it HAS to be implanted in the brain. It requires delicate and potentially dangerous brain surgery to implant the sensors. Do you think they'd do that if it wasn't completely necessary? It's not a design flaw, or a design choice, it's a requirement that in order to detect the neuronal signals it has to be hard-wired into the brain.

Little 10 Toes

15th June 2008, 02:20 PM

I am not a liar, if you think of me in that way, then you are wrong.

Sorry Tim4848, but you are a liar. You said that you wouldn't come back, but you did. Who's wrong? Me, for pointing out that you are a liar, or you for lying?

Oh, also, any scientfic proof of any of your babbling?

Tim4848

16th June 2008, 12:24 AM

Thank you for reading my thoughts,

Been playing around with this song today. what do you think of it?

Don't worry I am keeping my day job.

The Department of Positive Out of Body Possibilities:

Time stepping on time, reading your views, reading your mind.

Is it a map, a national treasure, paradigm hope, or just a long letter.

I won't give up, keep your float up, and smile like you do, everything takes it's allotted amount of time, and your idea will too.

I just can't believe Sebastian would of said,
after you were dead, that I am
lost and confused.

Should I try, or should you go?

What should I do?

He has never taken the time, to read your lines,
the way that I do.

I have been to your sites, talked about what you
liked, and I understand what you are trying to
do.

You believed in me, and I believe in you!

Others will be in the dark, that ain't something new.

So many have seen it, talked about it, some have even said it could be true.

What else do we have, if we don't believe in you?

Stay close, keep your float close, and watch what
you do, it won't be much longer, when more people believe in you.

Over the top, I would have to say not,

It's free, it's simple, it's safe, and it is long
time over due,

For you!

amb

16th June 2008, 02:43 AM

I see your still having problems seperating fantasy with fact Tim. Get a grip of yourself man.

Tim4848

16th June 2008, 04:12 PM

I see your still having problems seperating fantasy with fact Tim. Get a grip of yourself man.

No problems here, just being well rounded.

Take a moment to imagine your response to this with your right brain, and then please fill free to turn it into action with your left brain. That would be the typing part.

Reality can not exists with out fantasy. They are inter-twined don't you think?

wollery

16th June 2008, 10:32 PM

Reality exists fine without fantasy.

It's the reverse that has problems.

amb

17th June 2008, 05:18 AM

27 pages. :boggled:

leonAzul

18th June 2008, 01:26 AM

BrainGate is planted in the brain now, because that is the way they are using it now.

Not to mention that that is the way it is designed to work. Furthermore, according to their own literature, BrainGate™ does not "read" thoughts nor collect "emotional states", but rather detects electrical activity in selected parts of the brain. In order to become useful, both the computer/user require extensive programming/training to correlate the electrical activity to meaningful interaction with the computer.

IMHO, this is what our "straw man" is looking for...

eM00JScoSg0

:duck:

amb

18th June 2008, 02:31 AM

Tim4848

19th June 2008, 12:06 AM

Reality exists fine without fantasy.

It's the reverse that has problems.

I once heard that every body has the right to be a dam fool everyday, but the goal is not to exceed that. As long as you don't hurt your self, or anybody else.

I have just been saving mine up all these years, and I don't want to go over my right brain thinking minutes.

My right brain idea does not hurt anybody in the left brain field, if anything it has the potential to make their live better, even if they don't have the fore fight to see that it. In general left brain people only see procedure things, and they never question the baby steps they take. They do question anything that is connected to their baby steps, usually showing it as somebody who don't like change, and they will take the time to complain, just because being vocal takes less effort than actually doing something.
There is a difference in doing what is right, and what you are willing to do.
I am willing to help place value in this field of science. Why?

Because it is the right thing to do!

I use hear about some prisoner who was on death row, getting all these chances to drag out that day when they must die. I always had mixed feelings about that.

I understand the argument that just in case they are Innocent, we should not be too quick to follow the law. Just in case they did not do the crime.

I have always mixed feelings about that topic anyway, but in that situation. We might be giving an actual murder more time to live.

We made a decision to allow a potential murder more time to live, because we know at times that we do make mistakes. Why?

Because we are human, and part of our make up is to make mistakes.

I am only human and I thank you for all that you have ever done for me while I am a live. You have made my time on this Earth very meaningful, and I thank you for that as well.

I must of been very lucky in my life, because I have met some of the nicest people.

The only real concern I see. Is our exist from being a human. We just don't seam to care.

I won't lie. I was like that as well, until I found out about BrainGate, and all the possibilities as coated with it.

The only reason I was probably quicker to notice it, was the fact that I had an out of body experience, and my inner thoughts were entertaining the possibility.

Do I really believe it is possible?

Comely,

Yes I do.

Should we give it a chance for all parties involved?

I feel we should.

Who are all these parties?

What ever you believe.

Ghost, spirits, demons, the devil, God, you, me, BrainGate patients, Elvis, aliens, Big Foot, a turtle, past criminals, future criminals, and the list is very long.

Are we willing to give everybody and everything that has thought that can be measured their own Internet?

That is what I am talking about.

A total network that can be measured in different ways.

What they say can be measured.

The communication Network that I am talking about has room for any side of your brain to interact, regardless who you are or what you do, just as long as you have the ability to make it happen, and we can measure it.

Tim4848

19th June 2008, 12:08 AM

27 pages. :boggled:

Ive never noticed. Beep, Beep, Got to go, we have more to do!

Tim4848

19th June 2008, 12:26 AM

From what I understand of the brain, each section has a specific purpose. There;s the speech section, the hearing section, the pain section, the part that controls the various parts of the body, the sight section, ect, ect. Collectively it all comes together to produce mind and self consciousness. If any part of this enormously complex organ fails through injury or illness, the part that's injured no longer functions. That's all the proof we need to state beyond any doubt, that the brain produces mind. For any machine to be able to pick up thought waves, microchips would need to be implanted in every part of the brain which at the present time is beyond our means to do so, and remains in the realms of S/F until the far far future.

You lost me on that one. Please explain what you are saying better.

You are very correct. It produces it like an apple. some of us believe that our seed is when we have a child. that is part of it, but not all of it.

Sure we are adding to the number for that number in this measurement, but we have still missed the complete connection.

we have an inner energy, one that has the ability to take us out of pain and into pleasure, and science has shown that our inner thoughts do have the ability to show that it might be able to exit our body at the time of our perceived death. Now while I was in that state. I was free to move where I wanted to move, just the same as i do in my body now. The only difference, was I had less baggage to lug around.

Side bar:

I just read that at some point Lisa Williams has had an out of body experience.

That must be why I connected to how she was explaining how the afterlife was acting. I could see how that could help her in the field she is in.

That does not mean I believe that she actually talks to afterlife, but I can see how that experience she had. Helps her with selling her possibility.

I can't say from my short time in that situation if it all plays out as I have been saying, but it seams like a good place to start.

Thank you for reading my invisible thoughts,

Tim

Tim4848

19th June 2008, 12:48 AM

Not to mention that that is the way it is designed to work. Furthermore, according to their own literature, BrainGate™ does not "read" thoughts nor collect "emotional states", but rather detects electrical activity in selected parts of the brain. In order to become useful, both the computer/user require extensive programming/training to correlate the electrical activity to meaningful interaction with the computer.

IMHO, this is what our "straw man" is looking for...

eM00JScoSg0

:duck:

"but rather detects electrical activity in selected parts of the brain"

Can energy not be electrical? If given the tools in this situation, could you not duplicate this from an out of body situation?

I claim I had the ability to float around the room in that state. If I am right on that, then would it not be right to give me a chance, or anybody a chance to see they could do it.

Please take the time to watch the movie "The Lawn Mower man"

Sure he turns out to be real bad in the end, but the energy concept is what i am talking about. It does not take a lot to light a match. It can be done anywhere on this Earth.

What happens to dorm-id afterlife, ones that decided to live in their right brain?

Float off in space, or just going with the flow. i would think that your inner thoughts would really care one bit, just as long as you don't have to deal with it.

If given the tools, never underestimate Murphy Laws, or the spirit of every one of us, if given the chance to take our energy to the next level.

Please take the time to adjust your thermostat from time to time.

Have a can do attitude from time to time.

We can do it!

Just do it!

Don't think about it, don't talk about it, just do it!

We can still talk about it, while we are doing it.

Make this topic a reality show while we do it.

Let everybody be a part of it.

Take back the BrainGate machine we put in China and stick it in a reality show.

Now you claim it takes a lot of time for them to do this thing with BrainGate, when I saw a video where the very first guy said he did it in just a day or two.

Sure we can explain to everybody how to do it, and sure we can post signs to past afterlife, and then we can see what happens.

There i so many ways we can explore this possibility, but we don't.

W would rather give somebody on death row more chances, than we are willing to give our self, and to me that is not right, given what we know now.

Now you can claim you don't know much about it, and that is fine, but we do know something.

wollery

19th June 2008, 02:44 AM

:nope:

Little 10 Toes

19th June 2008, 07:39 AM

Tim4848, you still haven't provided any proof of your "ideas". Care to explain why?

Tim4848

23rd June 2008, 11:55 PM

Wollery, do you still live in China?

Tim4848

23rd June 2008, 11:57 PM

Tim4848, you still haven't provided any proof of your "ideas". Care to explain why?

That sounds like a loaded question Little 10 Toes. You know I can not have proof until my experiment is tried.

devnull

24th June 2008, 01:38 AM

Tim: I have a theory that if you send me all your money I will be able to speak with the dead.

Please comply promptly. Without trying my experiment we cannot know it will not work!

thanks

amb

24th June 2008, 04:59 AM

That sounds like a loaded question Little 10 Toes. You know I can not have proof until my experiment is tried.
What's lacking? a guinea pig?
Here's your chance to do something for the greater good of mankind.
Volunteer yourself for the experiment. :D
There's only two possible outcomes. One you become famous, the other you sacrifice yourself to science. :eye-poppi

leonAzul

24th June 2008, 03:08 PM

"but rather detects electrical activity in selected parts of the brain"

Can energy not be electrical? If given the tools in this situation, could you not duplicate this from an out of body situation?

I claim I had the ability to float around the room in that state. If I am right on that, then would it not be right to give me a chance, or anybody a chance to see they could do it.

Please take the time to watch the movie "The Lawn Mower man"

The premise of "The Lawn Mower Man" is that the same machinery that can provide a realistic virtual experience for a living person is therefore capable of detecting and modeling a personality. This is fiction. It is an enjoyable entertainment, as well as an interesting speculation, yet it is still fiction.

If you are sincere in your goals, perhaps you might want to give these people a hand and devise a way to falsify and test their claims:
http://www.cfpf.org.uk/articles/rdp/caasqp/caasqp.html

Wheezebucket

24th June 2008, 03:56 PM

I use The Lawnmower Man to prove all my theories too. Like my theory that Pierce Brosnon has laser eyes and can invade people's dreamscapes.

Tim4848

25th June 2008, 12:12 AM

Tim: I have a theory that if you send me all your money I will be able to speak with the dead.

Please comply promptly. Without trying my experiment we cannot know it will not work!

thanks

Dear devnull,

My idea is already free, why would I want to try yours?

Tim4848

25th June 2008, 12:18 AM

I use The Lawnmower Man to prove all my theories too. Like my theory that Pierce Brosnon has laser eyes and can invade people's dreamscapes.

Don't limit your self to just one way of doing it. I use to watch Gilligan's Island re-runs as a child as well.

Tim4848

25th June 2008, 12:29 AM

The premise of "The Lawn Mower Man" is that the same machinery that can provide a realistic virtual experience for a living person is therefore capable of detecting and modeling a personality. This is fiction. It is an enjoyable entertainment, as well as an interesting speculation, yet it is still fiction.

If you are sincere in your goals, perhaps you might want to give these people a hand and devise a way to falsify and test their claims:
http://www.cfpf.org.uk/articles/rdp/caasqp/caasqp.html

Please fill free to have them get a hold of me.

I did like the one link they had there.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/derby/unexplained/2002/life_after_death/life_after_death.shtml

Sounds like he is saying the same thing I am saying, but he saids some of it better.

Tim4848

25th June 2008, 12:34 AM

What's lacking? a guinea pig?
Here's your chance to do something for the greater good of mankind.
Volunteer yourself for the experiment. :D
There's only two possible outcomes. One you become famous, the other you sacrifice yourself to science. :eye-poppi

We are already past the animal section for this possibility, we are at the follow through section.

You sacrifice your self to science everyday now, what is the difference?

:)

amb

25th June 2008, 03:06 AM

Tim4848

25th June 2008, 07:24 PM

You may have a point there. Science is an ongoing thing. it never stops.
If for example it is discovered that mushrooms can cause cancer if eaten in certain quantities. We have to thank science for the information.
Also many times volunteers are seeked to try a new drug or a therapy.
This system has probably saved millions of lives by the new discoveries that evolved from such means.

and maybe if we take the time to try and communicate with aferlife, then we can see how they feel about those same mushrooms as well.

Don't only look at everything from your perspective.

It is over you that any afterlife will ever get the time of day from your actions.

We have to wait for somebody to always catch up in this time bandit life that we live in, if we don't put something in place first, and that is why we need to start the plan now.

You go to McDonald's because you expect them something, then you can decide if they met your expectations.

I offer something that we can set up now for free, and then you decide if it meets your expectation r not.

You decide if we should continue the effort in other ways or just forget about it all together and do something else, but to do that and to do that right, we have to set it up.

I am attempting to do my idea in a science environment through the help of companies like Cybernetics Neurotechnology systems Inc.

I am not claiming on taking their patients and running off to my basement or something.

I plan to ask them for their help in this field of science.

Maybe through a reality show or something,

I can't tell you for sure if it will work or not work, until we plug it in.

Tim4848

26th June 2008, 12:27 AM

Thank you for reading my thoughts as I listen to everybody explain to me that I must be crazy to try this idea.

During this time it is easy to get distracted while wasting time this way.

Example of something that I have noticed. Now I am not saying that there is an conspiracy going on here or something, but Wollerey spoke of living in China, and just the other day. I had heard that people in China are restricted from getting on the world wide web, by some way that they have of controlling their Internet. Now if this is true, and I had the time to interact on my topic should tell you something.

Now remember that we do have one of these machines in their country right now.

they have the ability to mass produce these machines for every person in there country if they would like, and for somebody from that country is willing to waste their time on my idea must mean something.

I sure could think of a lot of other things that I would be doing.

Please fill free to search back on this thread or the Department of Negative Out of Body Possibilities and find where he said it, because he has been watching this topic from a far for quite some times and I would have no doubt that he changes names t be a part of this topic.

He is here because there is something in it for him, or somebody else in his country.

If they are real good at it, they can get me to ramble on and on trying to prove my point, as all that time they are digging through it, to use in their goals toward trying to make this possibility a reality.

They already have more people, and why take advantage of it in the afterlife as well, where they would have an upper hand in this research and change the rules to the life that we have had.

Can China find an afterlife finder by using my concept?

Why not, anything is possible if you are focused on it.

Supply and demand of a product, and being able to produce that product in a market place that leans toward your way of doing things, and promising things that will never happen.

It is like a game of Chess.

If you have your pond just on step closer to being in apposition for being a queen, before mine can, you have the ability to control things that are not right. By being where you are in this process will make al the difference.

as I was saying, I do not know if he is a spy, but he did say he was from China, ans supposedly people in China are restricted to where they can go on the Web, and even if you get past all that, why waste your time at my site?

Do you see that I carry the missing Indiana Jones piece to the puzzle?

thank you for watching all the different CSI shows and Nancy Grace, and get to the bottom of this.

Don't be naive, either you know or you don't know.

And find out why we have a BrainGate in China anyway.

Call Nancy Grace and get to the bottom of it.

I don't make this stuff up, he went that way.

Dear Wollery and who ever gave the permission to put BrainGate in China. I hope you have good answers, and sure you can get away and change your name on the Internet, only goes to show you that people are taking notice of this possibility, and they are not even our people.

I have no problem taking my topic private, as long as we are working toward making this a possibility for our country as well.

I guess the question is this,

How long must I spill my thoughts about this possibility before somebody in this country of power takes noticed. Giving the masses the opportunity to weigh in on it as well.

Please fill free to list your major concerns about us trying this possibility, regardless how you feel about it at this time, but all the time supporting the effort because you can bet China could get their people motivated to try this possibility, and then be ready to mass produce it as a weapon in war.

Expect the worst, prepare for the worst, and the worst will never come. Be quick to assume, and go with a easy way out, and you will be further out in the future than you could just imagine, and it will be all because they had the upper hand in this field of science because we did not see the writing on the wall.

Everything in life takes it's allotted amount of time and my idea is no different.

Now just imagine if they could get the last piece of the puzzle to make my idea work.

there would be no stopping them.

Please show some restraint when trying to push the envelope to an imbalance in how we react to changes in possibilities, and who sees them first.

Regardless if I saw this possibility first, or if somebody else did, is not the real issue here.

The real issue about this idea is the fact that we place a BrainGate in China and we don't know what they know or don't know about using it.

Get Nancy Grace to check it out and see how good she is at doing it.

See if she is willing to get me to blast it all over the world.

Because of my lack of credibility in your thoughts, for what ever way you measure me, will do nothing for making this a possibility, it will only delay it. If you are that worried about how things are going as I play out this reality show. Have Dr. Phil stop by from time to time, and make sure that we are focused on making it happen.

This has nothing to do with me, you have already decided how you want it to play out.

I am asking the Americans of this country to take back this topic and come out in support of my idea and get things going. Don't let smoke screen people who don't want you to take me seriously as they tick around and take notes for their countries, and you better be darn right that it is not possible, because other countries have the ability to place my tools for this possibility in any format that they would like.

I hope these people have good answers.

I heard a story the other day that a week after Colan Power retired, he got a brand new free Jaguar from the Saudi's.

I wonder what China will give me?

Thank you for reading my thoughts,

Tim

Tim4848

26th June 2008, 12:34 AM

Thank you for reading my thoughts,

Do you remember me talking about baby steps.

Here is an example:

I have been saying all along that we will have to try the idea this way:

http://www.redorbit.com:80/news/health/1448880/individualizing_cancer_therapies_using_anatomolecu lar_imaging/

wollery

26th June 2008, 03:00 AM

Example of something that I have noticed. Now I am not saying that there is an conspiracy going on here or something, but Wollerey spoke of living in China, and just the other day. I had heard that people in China are restricted from getting on the world wide web, by some way that they have of controlling their Internet. Now if this is true, and I had the time to interact on my topic should tell you something.Hmmmm. Interesting.

The internet in China is blocked by a firewall, it's a fairly simple piece of technology. Most of what's blocked is porn, and a few websites that are critical of the Chinese government. They also block some blog sites. However, it's pretty easy to get around, and there is plenty of free software that lets you do it.

Now remember that we do have one of these machines in their country right now.Do they? Well, why not, it helps people with serious motor dysfunction.

they have the ability to mass produce these machines for every person in there country if they would like, and for somebody from that country is willing to waste their time on my idea must mean something.I seriously doubt anybody here would give a flying monkey's uncle about your idea, but what do I know?

I sure could think of a lot of other things that I would be doing.No comment.

Please fill free to search back on this thread or the Department of Negative Out of Body Possibilities and find where he said it, because he has been watching this topic from a far for quite some times and I would have no doubt that he changes names t be a part of this topic.Watching from afar? I've been an active participant in the thread.

He is here because there is something in it for him, or somebody else in his country.I've been a member of this forum for a lot longer than you've been around, and an active participant in threads on all sorts of subjects. Maybe you should use the search function yourself.

If they are real good at it, they can get me to ramble on and on trying to prove my point, as all that time they are digging through it, to use in their goals toward trying to make this possibility a reality.:dl:

They already have more people, and why take advantage of it in the afterlife as well, where they would have an upper hand in this research and change the rules to the life that we have had.You seem to forget that the machine is US made, and if the Chinese were to prove it worked then anybody, anywhere in the world, could use it. :rolleyes:

Can China find an afterlife finder by using my concept?

Why not, anything is possible if you are focused on it.No, because your "concept" is a pile of foetid dingo's kidneys.

Supply and demand of a product, and being able to produce that product in a market place that leans toward your way of doing things, and promising things that will never happen.

It is like a game of Chess.:boggled:

If you have your pond just on step closer to being in apposition for being a queen, before mine can, you have the ability to control things that are not right. By being where you are in this process will make al the difference.No, as pointed out above, if the idea were to be proved, then anybody could use it, the Chinese wouldn't have a monopoly.

as I was saying, I do not know if he is a spy, but he did say he was from ChinaWell, you pretty much did say that, but I'll let that one slide.

ans supposedly people in China are restricted to where they can go on the Web, and even if you get past all that, why waste your time at my site?Because pointing out the stupidity of your ideas is fun.

Do you see that I carry the missing Indiana Jones piece to the puzzle?

thank you for watching all the different CSI shows and Nancy Grace, and get to the bottom of this.

Don't be naive, either you know or you don't know.I have no idea what the heck that means. :boggled:

And find out why we have a BrainGate in China anyway.To help people with severe physical disabilities? Just a guess, it's nothing to do with me.

Call Nancy Grace and get to the bottom of it.

I don't make this stuff up, he went that way.What on earth are you rambling about now?

Dear Wollery and who ever gave the permission to put BrainGate in China. I hope you have good answers, and sure you can get away and change your name on the Internet, only goes to show you that people are taking notice of this possibility, and they are not even our people.No, you definitely aren't saying I'm a spy. Not at all. Not one little bit. :bwall

I have no problem taking my topic private, as long as we are working toward making this a possibility for our country as well.:nope:

I guess the question is this,

How long must I spill my thoughts about this possibility before somebody in this country of power takes noticed. Giving the masses the opportunity to weigh in on it as well.That would probably be when you make some sort of sense. Sometime around when hell freezes over.

Please fill free to list your major concerns about us trying this possibility, regardless how you feel about it at this time, but all the time supporting the effort because you can bet China could get their people motivated to try this possibility, and then be ready to mass produce it as a weapon in war.How the heck could it be a weapon of war??? :boggled:

Expect the worst, prepare for the worst, and the worst will never come. Be quick to assume, and go with a easy way out, and you will be further out in the future than you could just imagine, and it will be all because they had the upper hand in this field of science because we did not see the writing on the wall.:dl:

Everything in life takes it's allotted amount of time and my idea is no different.

Now just imagine if they could get the last piece of the puzzle to make my idea work.

there would be no stopping them.No stopping them from doing what? Talking to their ancestors? :confused:

Please show some restraint when trying to push the envelope to an imbalance in how we react to changes in possibilities, and who sees them first.

Regardless if I saw this possibility first, or if somebody else did, is not the real issue here.Nope, no idea what that means.

The real issue about this idea is the fact that we place a BrainGate in China and we don't know what they know or don't know about using it.I'd hope that the Braingate manufacturers gave them an instruction manual, or they'll be a wee tad miffed.

Get Nancy Grace to check it out and see how good she is at doing it.

See if she is willing to get me to blast it all over the world.Nope, another nonsensical sentence.

Because of my lack of credibility in your thoughts, for what ever way you measure me, will do nothing for making this a possibility, it will only delay it. If you are that worried about how things are going as I play out this reality show. Have Dr. Phil stop by from time to time, and make sure that we are focused on making it happen.:confused:

This has nothing to do with me, you have already decided how you want it to play out.

I am asking the Americans of this country to take back this topic and come out in support of my idea and get things going. Don't let smoke screen people who don't want you to take me seriously as they tick around and take notes for their countries, and you better be darn right that it is not possible, because other countries have the ability to place my tools for this possibility in any format that they would like.:nope: Paranoia much?

I hope these people have good answers.

I heard a story the other day that a week after Colan Power retired, he got a brand new free Jaguar from the Saudi's.

I wonder what China will give me?Wild guess? Some chopsticks?

Okay, for the record, I'm British, speak very little Chinese, have no involvement in any research that's anywhere near the field you're talking about, and frankly don't care. I'm a research astronomer. You can do a search in the forums on my name, I've given out more than enough info for anyone coming to these forums to find out who I am and what I do, and a lot of forumites have met me in real life.

If I'm a Chinese spy then my cover is absolutely brilliant!

amb

26th June 2008, 03:38 AM

Tim when will you realize that an afterlife is only wishful thinking on the part of mankind?
Death is the end of human as well as other life forms that may exist elsewhere.
Even if some form of life has survived extinction somewhere in the universe and is thousands of years ahead of us technologically wise. To separate mind from the brain is an impossibility.
S/F has produced a brain been kept alive in a jar containing some kind of chemicals that are never explained, with probes attached to the jar to pick up this brains thoughts.
But S/F is all it is.
The story of Frankenstein also has a brain kept alive in a jar full of chemicals. But the difference is this brain only comes alive when it's attached or inserted into the monster.
And is revived by a lightning bolt.
The technology of ''braingate is an attempt to make people like the late George Reeves [ superman] able to move his limbs even though the spinal chord is damaged beyond repair.

wollery

26th June 2008, 07:14 AM

Loss Leader

26th June 2008, 07:34 AM

Thank you for reading my thoughts as I listen to everybody explain to me that I must be crazy to try this idea.

Tim, I don't think you're crazy. But I don't think you're trying your idea. You have done absolutely nothing to make your idea a reality. You haven't contacted the BrainGate people, even after I gave you addresses and phone numbers. You haven't contacted any OBE organizations who might be able to help you. You haven't, as far as I can tell, sunk one thin dime into your own idea.

All you have done is ramble on about it to people who cannot help you.

And, of course, you've lied. You said we could stop you but you didn't stop.

It's not that we're naysayers, it's that you're the kind of person who people don't want to help.

Little 10 Toes

26th June 2008, 09:38 AM

That sounds like a loaded question Little 10 Toes. You know I can not have proof until my experiment is tried.

Please show me where it is loaded? You have claimed that there is life after death, the dead can communicate with us, China has a BrainGate, and that we all live in energy.

A loaded question would be, "Tim4848, have you stopped beating your wife?"

Tim4848

26th June 2008, 10:24 PM

Tim4848

26th June 2008, 10:28 PM

Minor nitpick, it's Christopher Reeve.

Did you miss my minor nitpick about how you say that you are from China wollery, but I heard that people in China are limited about how they can communicate with the rest of the world. How do you fix that?

:jaw-dropp

wollery

26th June 2008, 10:35 PM

Did you miss my minor nitpick about how you say that you are from China wollery, but I heard that people in China are limited about how they can communicate with the rest of the world. How do you fix that?

:jaw-droppDid you miss my long response to your long ramble where I explain that?

It's in the first paragraph.

Or do you completely ignore what other people say to you?

Post #1069, in case you have trouble finding it.

Tim4848

26th June 2008, 10:41 PM

Tim, I don't think you're crazy. But I don't think you're trying your idea. You have done absolutely nothing to make your idea a reality. You haven't contacted the BrainGate people, even after I gave you addresses and phone numbers. You haven't contacted any OBE organizations who might be able to help you. You haven't, as far as I can tell, sunk one thin dime into your own idea.

All you have done is ramble on about it to people who cannot help you.

And, of course, you've lied. You said we could stop you but you didn't stop.

It's not that we're naysayers, it's that you're the kind of person who people don't want to help.

Thank you for not thinking I am crazy, now i just have to convince 6 billion more people of that, and the reason I am not trying to go right to the source
with my idea is based on what I have been explained by people on the Internet, and that is the fact that I don't have any credibility, but as a group if I can get past that part where they think I am crazy as well, then maybe we could do it as a reality show or something.

"It's not that we're naysayers, it's that you're the kind of person who people don't want to help."

one who denies, refuses, opposes, or is skeptical or cynical about something

Please fill free to explain to me what type of person do people like to help?

A typo is not a lie

What could I do better over a short period of time to be better at getting people to help them selfs, and me with this positive possibility?

Tim4848

26th June 2008, 10:51 PM

Did you miss my long response to your long ramble where I explain that?

It's in the first paragraph.

Or do you completely ignore what other people say to you?

Post #1069, in case you have trouble finding it.

Thats good, because I have always like interacting with you on the topic.

They do have a very interesting spy museum in Washington D.C. that I had went to one time.

Now you are one person who should never accused me of not listening to you.

Tim

wollery

27th June 2008, 12:11 AM

Thats good, because I have always like interacting with you on the topic.

They do have a very interesting spy museum in Washington D.C. that I had went to one time.

Now you are one person who should never accused me of not listening to you.

TimWhat an interesting response.

amb

27th June 2008, 03:59 AM

Minor nitpick, it's Christopher Reeve.:o Of course it was. I got my Christophers mixed up. George was murdered if memory serves me right. [According to a film ]

Alice Shortcake

27th June 2008, 04:46 AM

I'll probably regret asking this, but who the hell is Nancy Grace?

wollery

27th June 2008, 05:00 AM

http://nancygrace.org/

I'm going to guess that he's referring to this woman.

No, I don't know why either.

amb

27th June 2008, 05:16 AM

http://nancygrace.org/

I'm going to guess that he's referring to this woman.

No, I don't know why either. Wow, she's beautiful. She can park her shoes under my bed any time if she asks nicely. :eye-poppi

Loss Leader

27th June 2008, 07:54 AM

Wow, she's beautiful. She can park her shoes under my bed any time if she asks nicely. :eye-poppi

Are you high?

Loss Leader

27th June 2008, 08:18 AM

Thank you for not thinking I am crazy,

I was being polite; I do think you're crazy. You refuse to listen to anyone who disagrees with you, you persevorate on a single topic, you are unable to correctly guage the emotional responses of others - these are all symptoms of mental illness.

maybe we could do it as a reality show or something.

Failure of sufficient reality-testing is also a symptom of mental illness.

Please fill free to explain to me what type of person do people like to help?

Easy: A person who helps himself; a person who learns as much as he can about his area of interest; a person who asks questions in order to gain knowledge; a person who creates and pursues a roadmap to success; a person who advocates for himself to those who have the power to help him; and, mosts of all, a person who listens to others.

A typo is not a lie

A typo means hitting the wrong key on the keyboard. It meens spelling "means" with two e's. It means changing words around a word around and not deleating the old.

You wrote two solid posts in which you promised to stop posting if people did not show 25,000 page views by Saturday. How were those two separate posts a single typo?

What could I do better over a short period of time to be better at getting people to help them selfs, and me with this positive possibility?

1. Read a scholarly book about the nature of energy, especially electrical energy. Here's an easy one (http://www.amazon.com/Teach-Yourself-Electricity-Electronics-Gibilisco/dp/0071377301).

2. Write up your proposal in detail and mail it to Cyberkinetics (they're the company working on the BrainGate project).

3. Write a step-by-step plan of exactly what needs to be done to accomplish your plan. Break each step up into three mini-steps. Break each of those up into three mini-steps. Identify who is responsible for each and the cost of each. Get working on step one.

4. Identify exactly who can help you with your plan and do not try to communicate with anyone but those people.

5. Stop posting on this forum. The people here cannot help you.

Tim4848

27th June 2008, 08:54 PM

I'll probably regret asking this, but who the hell is Nancy Grace?

She has a show on CNN.

She likes to get to the bottom of everything. I think she use to be a Prosecutor at one time.

wollery

27th June 2008, 10:37 PM

She has a show on CNN.

She likes to get to the bottom of everything. I think she use to be a Prosecutor at one time.Well, I guess that answers my question about reading my responses.

Little 10 Toes

27th June 2008, 10:38 PM

Tim4848. Please provide proof of anything you have said that you deem important.

Tim4848

28th June 2008, 12:20 AM

I was being polite; I do think you're crazy. You refuse to listen to anyone who disagrees with you, you persevorate on a single topic, you are unable to correctly guage the emotional responses of others - these are all symptoms of mental illness.

Maybe I could Gage their responses better, if they did answer the questions I have ask. I know that I have ask a lot of questions that have still not been answered to this day.

I have no problem listening to you if it has something to do with the topic, and there is more to it than you don't want me to do it, because you feel it is impossible.

I was the first to gage that Wollery was saying he was from China, when in fact he was not.

Especially when you take in consideration that it has probably been close to a year when he spoke about where he was from.

You claim that I am a lier on post that you are reading wrong, but when I catch somebody who saids they live in China and then changes it, and you do nothing. You sure come across as somebody who wants to delay this possibility, because you are quite capable of going to a lot of different sites here, but you like to stay at this one, so that in it self shows that I should stay here, because you really don't know what makes you happy.

I also notice that you don't like me to ramble on, because it is a hassle when you like to break everything I say one line at a time.

Who does that in the real world?

I have no desire to break your remarks down line by line.

Sound to me that you are on some kind of power trip or something.

You want to dominate every conversation, and you want me to leave.

I desire no power except what could qualify me to follow through this possibility, and allow more people, regardless how smart they are, a chance to be heard.

You seam to be coming off as some one that Carla Simon's wrote a song for.

"Your so vain, you probably think this topic is about you, don't you?"

and then you break every Clark Howard law out there and want me to buy a book.

You want me to spend more money on this book than I was planning to on spend on every thing to do with my idea concept.

Have you not been paying attention to my topic at all. Maybe that is why you feel I am a lyre, is because you just don't get it.

The big thing about the days leading up to so many views was the fact that I would be off work on Sunday and Monday, and I was looking forward to communicating that week end, but the topic did not hit the views on time, and I lost that opportunity. I waited until later in the week before I replied, and those were on days where I did not have the time to focus on the topic as good as I can, when I am not having to have to meet other responsibilities.

If you follow this topic you know that I could talk about this topic until the day I die, and if I did post the thread wrong, I take full responsibility for it, but my intent was to send a message out to those out there that just want to argue just to be arguing, that they could wait until this summer and see the video, if they were having a hard time understanding this topic.

I believe it can be an art to act dumb, when in fact you are not.

I was once trained by some very wealthy people on just how to do this.

I am very good at reading people, and I know when I am being played, regardless what type of intentions they think I am misreading.

Regardless if I believed everything that came of your mouth, does not mean I will trust you any more or any less than anybody else, because that would be a mistake on my part, as it should be on yours.

My goal is to paint pictures about this topic and then allow you the opportunity to see if you get it or not.

Everybody has a different experience about this world we live in, and if my idea was a song, and you did not like it, does not mean it is a bad song just because you did not like it, does not mean that other will feel the same. All I have to do is find enough people who do like my song, or topic.

It is quite clear that you do not support this possibility.

As I have said before, if you don't like it on this topic, leave!

I have no problem if you want to stay around and ask only good questions.

I have spoke in the past that I will not always answer every post because of time restraints from time to time, and your chances of me ever responding to your post after you try and belittle me. Makes your chances of getting any response very little. On those days you better just hope that I am in a real good mood.

You do what you feel works for you, as I try and do the same.

Apparently at some point you decided that I was at the top of the pedestal for what reason I don't know, and that I am being kept accountable at the level of a President, and as that might be flattering to some, it don't work for me.

I have the ability to make things happen, because I know that I am only as good as all of you, and my goal is to give you the power to make this happen if you want it.

Example:

Sean Hanity talked about drilling for oil off the coast line or something, and he asked them to do something on his web site about it, and the next thing you know, they did that, and now they are talking about doing it.

Sean did not have to go talk to the oil people about it, he did not have to get with his parents, and have his parents go talk to the oil people parents.

I am not going to my neighbor and asking to borrow his lawn mower, even though I wished it was that easy, but knowing how our culture is, and how we like to create red tape, I have no doubt that it is there some place, and the only way to bi-pass that, is to do it like Sean Hannity did it, and I better be on top of my A game when we get to that point.

Now if you actually believed that i have nothing, then it would be in your best interest to get the media involved now before I create the best politically correct statements for them, because I would think if you are correct in the way you think, and how you do feel it is in your best interest to protect people from me, that you would do that.

The only reason I can think of that you would not want to turn me over to the press, is that you are worried that people just might want to do it, just like drill off the coast.

Maybe there is more people out there like me, that buys into everything they hear, like politicians that say that drilling off the coast will not bring down the cost of gas tomorrow.

Where do they come up with these remarks, and we pay them to do there job.

where is there sign, because you would think that anybody would know that they could not do it as soon as tomorrow.

Then they say that it will only save about a penny on a gallon of gas.

Maybe at todays prices, but they don't say that.

The only respect I am looking for, is people that would like to talk about this possibility with an open mind.

Now just because you might post some stuff that I do like, does not mean I will do everything that you like as well.

If talking about this topic works better for you, as if I am not here. We can do that just for you, and then you will not need to aim any of your remarks toward me.

Just how flexible are you?

If you feel negative in parts of my post tonight, it is only because I had to work real hard today, and when I finally get a chance to stretch and grow about this topic, instead we have to go over time bandit touchy feely stuff again.

Think of me as a cartoon or something that is not real.

Do not try and measure me to what you perceive as your standard, that you place on everyone similar to me.

I don't know how many times I have said this, but I am just the messenger of my inner thoughts.

I once heard that every thought is a religious thought, even though I do not believe that.

I believe you are capable of having two different type of thoughts.

The ones you have, and your inner thoughts.

I know we could analyze this part of the topic into more details, and find that there are curtain cases that are different, but for the most part, that is your options.

Now I would love to go into the two different thoughts we have and which one might be religious, and wish one is probably not.

Another thing I was wanting to talk about was this:

I have noticed that people who throw up smoke screens, usually have something to hide.

I have noticed that people who worry a lot, have some thing to hide.

What are they protecting.

Are you worried about me?

I am not worried about you.

You can never be tougher on me than I can be to my self.

If you feel that people have been tough on me that i want except that my idea will never work. that has not been hard, because my inner thoughts believe it is possible, and it has always done a better job of keeping me out of pain than you have ever done.

I do believe I could live quite well if I just focused on the all mighty buck, and didn't care about you, because that is what this topic is actually about.

Me caring about you!

I have been there, and if I have been there, and at least 600 million others have been there to some degree with their energy, then there might be a good chance you could be there some time.

We are not talking about just a couple of weird people.

Example: The Rain man

He has abilities that we don't seam to have, and if that was all I had, and you gave me the benefit of a doubt and said o.k. Tim, The Rain Man is different, and maybe his energy could do it, but that is not what I am saying.

I am claiming that 600 million will have this happen to them in one way or another, with the Near Death ones, being the most real, because they are in a life and death situation. A situation at times that shows the person dead in everything that we can measure, and all the time, that person is floating around the room.

If you want to measure my experiment correctly and start with the 600 million.

Now it would be one thing if this happened next to power plants or something, but it is happening everyday all over the world.

I understand that it is hard to openly speak about this topic, imagining that other will single you out because they know you come to this site or something, or maybe you feel the Government is involved now, as they check out Wollery and think about what they want to do with me.

Anything is possible

I have worked for those people in the glass houses, and you would be surprised what they worry about.

Maybe I should change my style on this site to that of a paper boy, just read off the headlines, and if anybody ask, I will just say that I don't know nothing, I am just the paper boy.

Read all about it.

Nut claims he has come up with a way of communicating with the dead. Don't blame him, Thomas A. Edison made him do it!

One paper left, get it while you can. (now when I make post like that, you do not have to take me at my word. this is me posting thoughts, not my application to be the best icon in the world in your eyes.

I do not want to be perfect, never had that as a goal of mine, in any aspect of my life.

I like to play the best players in 8-ball, chess, video football, or with this topic, because I know it will make me better, and I do not mind if you beat me, I just hate it when I beat myself.

Examples:

Running the table in 8-ball:

I enjoy getting in the dead zone of pool and running the table, or leaving them with a very hard shot.

I enjoy the rush of making pizza's on a busy night Friday night, and trying to make sure that everybody order is correct.

My goal at work is to make every customer happy, and I like to think I am getting better at that everyday.

Now going from that situation to this one is not that much different except I am the only one taking us down this path.

If you don't want to walk down this path with me, you are more than welcome to leave.

Is there anyone here right now that has come up with a better plan than mine?

My goal is to take people from "He's crazy too "what can I do to help make it happen"

That seams harder than doing the idea.

a long up hill road, or maybe the reason you want me to leave this site is because the big wheels come through here more often, and you don't want them to see this topic and see how you are having a hard time making it go away.

In Battle ship, they would call that a direct hit, but that would be assuming on my part, just like the thing with Wollery and people checking him out.

All that is a waste of time anyway, what we need to do is talk more and more about this topic, until the people in the closets are tired of that cramped place and just say I don't care anymore, and let my inner thoughts be known as well.

Please fill free to cut apart this topic as you have done in the past, but please pretend before you send it, that you are also sending it to your self, as though you must see if from both perspectives, and if your replies can past that test, then I will make an effort to focus better on what ever you would like to talk about.

Failure of sufficient reality-testing is also a symptom of mental illness.

I'm in management, how much reality do you want to hear?

Easy: A person who helps himself; a person who learns as much as he can about his area of interest; a person who asks questions in order to gain knowledge; a person who creates and pursues a road map to success; a person who advocates for himself to those who have the power to help him; and, mosts of all, a person who listens to others.

I helped myself by coming to this site and me other like it, because everybody I interacted with learned something that they did not know before about this topic, and now it gives them an option to explore it better than I ever could if they would like.

My goal is not to keep up with the Jones, but to inform them where some good deals might be at.

It is a good deal for everybody to get better with this topic, and it is not my job to be the best at it.

I do not need to re-invent the wheel.

The wheel in this direction as been there all the time, we just lost our interest in this field because of all the bad press this topic has gotten over the years, but even with that, even the movies are getting better in this field some.

Ghost

That one movie with Bruce Willis in it, where he is a doctor and he thinks he is a live.

Medium Lisa Williams show

Ghost Whispers (Now she acts as though they all need to go to their right brain way of thinking. If this is the case, then we might find this out.)

That guy that was in field of dreams, and a movie where he is chasing all these clues like I am doing, and he finds a child that he did not even know he had.

Ghost Hunters at night, Rooter Rooter man at day.

Sure we all can have fun with movies like Ghost busters, but that does not mean we have to give up.

People make fun of all type of things that are real, and this is probably no different, except we have not gotten our afterlife float in any parades lately.

Thank you for reading my invisible thoughts,
Tim

A typo means hitting the wrong key on the keyboard. It means spelling "means" with two e's. It means changing words around a word around and not deleating the old.

You wrote two solid posts in which you promised to stop posting if people did not show 25,000 page views by Saturday. How were those two separate posts a single typo?

1. Read a scholarly book about the nature of energy, especially electrical energy. Here's an easy one (http://www.amazon.com/Teach-Yourself-Electricity-Electronics-Gibilisco/dp/0071377301).

2. Write up your proposal in detail and mail it to Cyberkinetics (they're the company working on the BrainGate project).

3. Write a step-by-step plan of exactly what needs to be done to accomplish your plan. Break each step up into three mini-steps. Break each of those up into three mini-steps. Identify who is responsible for each and the cost of each. Get working on step one.

4. Identify exactly who can help you with your plan and do not try to communicate with anyone but those people.

5. Stop posting on this forum. The people here cannot help you.

I don't need help, and neither do you.

All we have to do is just get along.

No drama, just a free idea concept.

Maybe that actor who played in National treasure could get my idea to work. He sure seam to be able to do everything else.

What ever happened to all the John Wayne's of this country?

You can still watch reruns of "Match". and still be able to be a John Wayne.

Don't allow them to get you to buy in to their old way of thinking.

Just because they refuse to except the possibility, don't make it any less possible, when they say that they want proof, but they don't allow you the opportunity to try it.

I speak for no person at this site except for myself, and I hope that all of you are willing to do the same.

Speak what you feel, and then what you think. allow both sides of your thoughts to come out.

What do you think about trying my idea?

What do your inner thoughts think about the idea?

How do you feel about my idea?

How do your inner thoughts feel about the idea?

What do your friends, family, or anybody else that you have contact with feel about this possibility?

wollery

28th June 2008, 12:26 AM

It would help a lot, Tim, if you could learn a simple thing, like how to use the forum's quote function. It really is incredibly easy, and makes reading responses a heck of a lot easier.

Little 10 Toes

28th June 2008, 12:55 AM

Tim4848, why haven't you done anything to get your "idea" working other than posting on the internet? Remember, "it's free".

More importantly, why should I believe anything you say since you said you wouldn't come back here, but you continue to post?

Why haven't you provided proof for the basis of your experiment? What are you hiding from us?

amb

28th June 2008, 05:35 AM

Are you high?
:o Yes.

Loss Leader

28th June 2008, 07:52 AM

What do your inner thoughts think about the idea?

You are mentally ill.

Ask your family for help today.

Wheezebucket

28th June 2008, 11:43 AM

What happened to all the John Waynes in this country? Well, the one I knew about died a while ago, and since we don't live in a god damn movie, I imagine all the other ones only ever lived in your sick, sick head.

So far all I've been able to take from Tim's posts is that he loves the Lawnmower Man and John Wayne. We should move this thread to the Entertainment section.

leonAzul

28th June 2008, 12:17 PM

Wow, she's beautiful. She can park her shoes under my bed any time if she asks nicely. :eye-poppi

But have you listened to her voice?

Loss Leader

28th June 2008, 03:21 PM

What could I do better over a short period of time to be better at getting people to help them selfs, and me with this positive possibility?
1. Read a scholarly book about the nature of energy, especially electrical energy. Here's an easy one (http://www.amazon.com/Teach-Yourself-Electricity-Electronics-Gibilisco/dp/0071377301).
You want me to spend more money on this book than I was planning to on spend on every thing to do with my idea concept.

Tim, this book and many like it can be found for free at the library.

leonAzul

28th June 2008, 05:44 PM

Tim4848

29th June 2008, 02:59 AM

Tim, this book and many like it can be found for free at the library.

Please fill free to direct me to a book that explains what is inside energy, because the last time I heard, they did not know what was inside energy.

To know what is inside, you would also have to be able to know your thoughts, and they have no way of doing that as you have said, but they can measure friction, as you direct the energy to what you want it to do.

Tim4848

29th June 2008, 03:02 AM

Thank you for reading my thoughts,

How do I go about having a poll on this topic?

wollery

29th June 2008, 04:05 AM

Please fill free to direct me to a book that explains what is inside energy, because the last time I heard, they did not know what was inside energy."Inside energy" is a meaningless phrase. Energy is that which causes actions, or allows for the possibility to act.

To know what is inside, you would also have to be able to know your thoughts, and they have no way of doing that as you have said, but they can measure friction, as you direct the energy to what you want it to do.More meaningless drivel.

Read a book or twenty on energy and physics. Seriously. You have no idea what you're talking about.

amb

29th June 2008, 04:42 AM

You are mentally ill.

Ask your family for help today.
No, yesterday.

amb

29th June 2008, 04:43 AM

Tim if you say ''thank you for reading my thoughts'' one more time, I will slash my wrists.

Loss Leader

29th June 2008, 08:15 AM

Please fill free to direct me to a book that explains what is inside energy, because the last time I heard, they did not know what was inside energy.

1. Direct yourself to a library.
2. Direct yourself to the help desk
3. Ask the librarian for help in as little or as much detail as you would like, showning her, if necessary, this thread.
4. Receive a book from the librarian for free.
5. Read it.

Little 10 Toes

29th June 2008, 10:54 AM

Please fill free to direct me to a book that explains what is inside energy, because the last time I heard, they did not know what was inside energy.

To know what is inside, you would also have to be able to know your thoughts, and they have no way of doing that as you have said, but they can measure friction, as you direct the energy to what you want it to do.

Um, no. You direct us to a book that, "explains what is inside energy." YOU have claimed that we live inside energy. When asked for proof you linked to an elementary school website. If "they" do not know what is inside energy, how do you know?

I don't believe energy has friction. Please explain what you mean.

You provide proof like Dennis Miller provides explainations.

Akhenaten

29th June 2008, 11:06 AM

Thank you for reading my thoughts,

How do I go about having a poll on this topic?

Same way you've gone about having a discussion on it. Talk drivel to yourself and post it. To make it into a poll, try and include a graph of some kind.

Tim4848

30th June 2008, 01:14 AM

"Inside energy" is a meaningless phrase. Energy is that which causes actions, or allows for the possibility to act."

Inside energy is that which causes action, or allows for the possibility of out of body afterlife to act.

wollery

30th June 2008, 01:54 AM

Inside energy is that which causes action, or allows for the possibility of out of body afterlife to act.The first word of that sentence is not needed. I said in my last post that energy is that which causes action, or the possibility to act.

The second half of the sentence is pure conjecture with no evidence to back it up.

I'm going to try to help you out here Tim.

I assume you mean internal energy, i.e. the energy contained within the brain, which makes the brain work, producing thought and action.

If that is the case then you have to explain how the electrical and chemical energy which is a function of the brain's synapses (the material parts which allow electrical transfer) and the blood (which supplies the glucose and oxygen required to power the synaptic actions) can be supported outside the brain.

Tim4848

30th June 2008, 01:58 AM

Thank you for reading my invisible thoughts,

If you were invisible in the future, what else could you be but your invisible thoughts?

My thoughts right now are invisible, and there is a core to it, a place where all information can be moved too in space. Regardless what part of the brain clocks in at any given time you are thinking about that part of the brain. It still carries a mental memory that is store in this part of the brain.

Remember: If your inner brain knows how to move your head, it will always have that on file, and if it has felt pain before, it will still know what pain is, and regardless if it don't have the old section of the brain that produced it, it still has it on file with all the emotions that are experienced for that situation, but it also has the ability to make the most out of what it has to work with, and that is space energy itself.

I fore see it as a harmless place in space.

How much space does an atom take, and is is more than one atom?

I don't know. Give me those tools and I would love to explore it. Sounds like fun.

I would imagine the best way to explain inner energy is to think about your own thoughts, and what you believe in, because that might be what you will have when you are out of your body.

You might actually be a lot smaller than you are now, but if it makes it easier, just imagine you are taking up about the same space as you feel your thoughts are taking up now.

Move around through out the day, just worrying about the space that make up your thoughts, your invisible thoughts.

Now your thoughts now sleep every day, because the negative side of you must get it's rest, and then you can be positive again.

If you research history, most problems happen when people are in their negative side, and all the things that goes with it.

I see it here at this site all the time, and I try and make a point to ignore it, but it is hard for some people to look at different things from different paradigms.

Thank you for reading my invisible thoughts,
Tim

I would imagine as an out of body afterlife, that you are free to experience different things, and you enjoy the freedom of moving around where ever you like. You have almost everything you need except for afterlife back to human connection.

We claim on this end that we don't buy it. There is no way that there is afterlife and there surely could not be any way of communicating with them.

Pretend for a while that I am just the mediator between two parties.

I totally understand what direction you are coming from and why you feel the way you do.

It all sounds crazy. I get that.

Now if you were an out of body afterlife. How do you think it makes us feel, that you are not going to give us an opportunity to interact with you.

In curtain fields of something that I enjoy to analyze, such as this topic. I like to imagine what some worst scenarios could be about it, and one of the first ones that comes to mind is this possibility.

Is this something we have just over looked, and there just might be something to this, and after death you are inside energy, for your size, features, thoughts, friction, space, movement, possibilities, changing, and just behaving as if still in your brain, but now you are free to move around on your own.

A lot of people use to feel that you just went blank after you die, because they feel it is over, but the math don't play out that way, and here is why.

If you take anything back in history it goes through this part of your core inside energy.

Example:

Where do you see pictures in your thoughts?

Are they on front of you forward up down right or left, or back as well all those different directions?

Just pick forward or back wards.

Your inner filing cabinets all come from one location when it gets to you.

You compile all your information at one location in your brain. That is your inside energy.

The core of you that can be measured.

It use to be blank at one point, but it will not be in this situation. It is you, and it will continue to be you, and even though you have lost the human body. It just might not be over.

I can not tell you that there is such a place as I can not tell you a lot of things, but the possibility could be there and if the concept is free, then why not try it?

wollery

30th June 2008, 02:14 AM

Okay, so we can add neurology and brain function to the list of things you clearly have no understanding of.

(Hang on, wasn't that on the list already?)

Tim4848

30th June 2008, 03:19 AM

Thank you for reading my invisible thoughts,

Electrical inner transfer energy, that is free to float out side of the body as well.

Keep finding any fancy word you function you would like that the brain or your thoughts do, and there will always be and inside to it, because there was an inside to the sperm that made you, and that DNA Dis will always change and keep doing what it has always been doing ever since you can ever remember.

No change here.

You are who you know you to be, and it could always be like that.

You just might want a forum to communicate some day.

Hopefully it will be one that is willing to give you the chance to will your self to this possibility, and we start to count the days to this possibility, and then to get the chance to see it work.

I understand if you don't think it might work.

I totally understand where you might feel you are coming from, but My experience feels it is possible. We do not have to split atoms on this possibility, then the chance that me or you could catch a fish in five minutes.

You feel there is nothing in space, and I beg to argue, because I have history in my favor in that field.

You have recorded information in books as old as the Bible, talking about people leaving their body, we know from science that our thoughts can be fooled by a fake out of body experience, and as far as we know our body has the ability to do it, so why could it not duplicate that as your inner thoughts has the ability to duplicate anything in nature, if given the time to focus on it, but how much time do you really feel that this possibility has been studied correctly?

Who before me offer trained patients with a machine that has the ability to read your thoughts.

If you think this direction, it moves the cursor that direction.

At this point some might feel that the space in energy can not make this possibility happen, and they are basing it on less than five minutes of knowing anything about this topic, or what we know or don't know.

Science has had a history of some bad press in the early years, and if you are just floating around. It would not take you long to decide and go do something else.

Science don't go on field trip much when it comes to how all atoms behave.

Most science is in looking down and something and analyzing it.

If science an afterlife are to ever be on the same page, they are going to have to listen to make believe patients for now, until we can get some real ones.

Example:

I look at everything a BrainGate patient does today on BrainGate, as something they can do again in the concept idea situation.

Afterlife float up by the lights of the room because they will feel there energy even better.

I guess the best way to imagine afterlife, and all the places they might be.

Just look out side at night and watch the lightning bugs, and that should give you a Murphy law of how many are around you at any given time.

Did you know that they say that there is a spider with in six feet of you at any given time, and on average we swallow some.

There is a lot of things in life that happen for a reason, and this topic is no different.

Some could have any excuse why they feel it is not possible, as I can claim that it is, but my side of it is willing to try it for free, and your side has nothing to offer than theories on top of theories, with not one of them ever being played out correctly, and the proof is in the 600 million people who don't even expect that they are going to have an out of body experience when it does happen.

Sure you hear the wars stories about all type of different out of body experiences, but most of them is like laying back and having dreams, but the ones experienced by near death victims are the ones where they seam to be actually floating out of the body.

When I was in that situation, I was inside space. A space that allowed me to see, to feel like I feel with my thoughts now. In my thoughts.

I knew when I was in this state, that sex was a thing of the past, because that part of your body is no longer there.

If you like to watch Golf.

You should be able to watch as much of that as you would like.

Rich people in power made sure that rich afterlife can find a golf course.

Have you ever heard somebody speak about the energy in a room
being strong tonight.

The room was so quiet, you could cut it with a knife.

If the energy in the room is strong with friction. Will the afterlife be able to use that to their favor, or if no friction is moving, because the room is empty, waiting for any activity that might have the ability to mock patterns of a previous BrainGate patient.

Follow through in as many inexpensive things out there, like the different amount of different vacuum cleaner attachments that we might try through out this process, because the price of every sensor attachment will not be very expensive, because of the size of the sensor.

When making the light bulb. Thomas A. Edison knew that everything he tried would be small and the cost would be small as well, because you will only try it a very few times, if only once.

Having the material to try things like this really only comes down to what sensors you would like to try.

It is kind of like going fishing in a way.

What lure would you use if you were going fishing. What would use, if you could only go fishing for five minutes.

Now you might say.

Tim, that is not a long time to go fishing.

Some people go fishing all day, and never get a bite.

Well look at my idea concept.

I am not even being allowed five minutes to see if one of our brother or sisters in the big picture is allowed to try and be caught as well, but I can't even get five minutes, because some feel it is impossible, but I feel it is a number thing, just like a Murphy law would be, like if enough people only fish for five minutes, the fish might adjust to that and some people will get a bite, just like we would stand a better chance of communicating with potential afterlife.

Maybe one day, Braingate will be like a cable channel that can be sent to your computer allowing you to set up this possibility in your own family tree.

You know those houses where they have all the bells and whistles in their back yard.

Everything that Fisher Price makes.

Safe, safe, safe, that is the way to think, but just watch what you might not be thinking about.

I believe that this topic has done very good over time. Giving us a chance to talk about a lot of different fields of this topic, but as you can see, there is still a lot more, and how it will play out.

Regardless what area of your life that you are in, you should explore this possibility, just in case 600 million out of body afterlife are just showing a early picture of what it will be like, so why not explore Tim' possibility, not because Tim was the one who provided it. Forget all about that tim guy, just think about the fact that this might be new information that we should really take more serious, since every body else seams to always be pulling something over our eyes, and it is quite obvious that Tim went to great lengths to humiliate him self, if this possibility did not have something to it, because every body knows, if there is something to it, there is usually something to it.

Example:

Your mail box is gone. It did not just get up and walk away.

What happen to it?

In the experiment that science did with the patients that thought they were having an out of body experience were alive, and were always alive during the experiment.

Some feel that your mind is playing tricks on you.

It must be pretty smart to want to play tricks with me. Effortlessly smart as my inner thoughts are, but when blood pressure goes to not, is when this effortlessly inner energy changes from the human form to the space form and unless you have somebody from the inside focusing on this possibility as you do in so many different parts of science, you will never know. How could you know. You have done nothing to put your self in that position from any other directions that it is not possible, and yes some could spend their life time just focusing on different possibilities in this field other than my idea and maybe some way some how they could place their efforts in a situation where it could be measured, but I just don't see that. all I see is my idea, and what else I can bring to it, if given the chance.

Thank you for reading my invisible thoughts that seam to go on for ever,

Tim

Loss Leader

30th June 2008, 05:59 AM

Refuses to get a book from the library. Check.

wollery

30th June 2008, 08:15 AM

Random stream of consciousness babble in response to simple question. Check.

Little 10 Toes

30th June 2008, 10:41 PM

Tim4848, why haven't you provided any proof of your beliefs? Why aren't you answering my questions? What are you hiding from?

Tim4848

1st July 2008, 01:30 AM

Thank you for reading my thoughts,

I am doing just fine. I am not hiding from anything.

If you don't believe me, inform any media to contact me.

You know at work when I answer the phone, people tell me that I have a radio voice, and I do believe if given a chance to express my views on this topic in front of the media, that this could help to move on this process.

As I said before. How do I go about placing a poll on this topic?

I would like to give the viewers out here the opportunity to weigh in on some different questions that I would like to ask.

I will ask every question in a yes and no format, and anybody will be free to vote one time.

Now how do I go about doing that under this topic?

Can it be done or do I have to start a new post focused on doing poll questions?

you tell me, I could use a little help here.

Yes here where we are always trying to find different ways to get this possibility to the main stream and allow them the opportunity to weigh in on this as well, than let them here about it a different way that might not be correct.

I welcome your invisible thoughts on this topic as well.

Thank you,

Tim

wollery

1st July 2008, 02:41 AM

To start a poll you need to start a new thread.

When you start it you'll see an option to include a poll. Tick it, and select the number of poll options you want. You have to post the thread first, then fill out the poll options. You have a limited time to do this.

Apathia

1st July 2008, 07:16 AM

And don't forget to include a Planet X option. :arrow:

Little 10 Toes

1st July 2008, 09:43 PM

Why won't you provide us proof of your ideas? What do you mean when you say, "Electrical inner transfer energy" and, "If the energy in the room is strong with friction. [sic]"? Why do you keep asking us to do your work when all you have done is ramble on? You have made claims that China has a BrainGate. Proof please.

amb

2nd July 2008, 02:00 AM

I believe Tim is having trouble separating S/F from reality.
Tim prove me wrong and post some glimmer of proof that we can study instead of your ramblings that don't make any sense at all.

Tim4848

3rd July 2008, 03:18 AM

Thank you for reading my invisible thoughts,

For some reason last night I ended up at this thread below.

Could afterlife live in anti gravity?

They do float, at least the 600 million people that will have an out of body experience on average at some point in their life time unexpectedly.

http://magnetenergy.wordpress.com/antigravity-holy-grail-of-the-21st-century/

Is this the same holy-grail where out of body afterlife live?

Looks like science is ready to knock on afterlife's door.

Maybe now they should try my idea.

It's free and it plays right into what they are already doing.

In my experiment they could watch the possibility happen, and it won't cost them any money to do, but some of you question that they could stumble across something that consist of what you are capable of doing.

Think about this for a second.

Space probably covers a very high percentage of everything around us, except for things like our heads,

Now if we wore a really special helmet that could block outside energy from your thoughts, then that would probably be a very good trick, and how you will act is such a field would be something, but here on Earth. Playing the game of life we are playing, must live in a magnetic field, regardless what type of helmet you wear.

Space plays a bigger part in who you are, than you are probably aware of.

Afterlife is like a picture.

You see him over here in this picture, and you see them over there in the next.

This is movement, and it can be measured once you locate where you want the picture to be taken.

My idea sets that place.

they can bring in there equipment and see if this holy grail anti-gravity acts differently as the monitor is going as the afterlife is sending measurable possibility that we have yet to begin to try to this date.

Show your Independence and talk about this topic to who ever you want.

Like it or not but you are surrounded by space and it has you from head to toe 24/7. All of your life this space is all around you and against you.

Your thoughts are part of this magnetic field.

Your body can leave, and your thoughts are still a part of that magnetic field.

Your inner thoughts know that, and science knows it as well.

What science don't know, is if this truly can happen, as near death experience people have claimed it was, and all the data that goes with that.
things like it was not expected, and every one had the same dream.

Even though these people saw things in those situations that could not be seen from where they were.

If you really want to know if it is real or not. Take the time to read all the stories from people who have had near death experiences.

They are not making this stuff up.

Either they are experiencing in their right brain or their left brain, or maybe both.

Just record in your thoughts what they were up against.

People ignoring them as though they were not even there. Even though I heard over 80% of people believe there is some type of afterlife. Where are they?

I am sorry right now that afterlife are any more clear than they already are, but that is just how the matrix of space works.

If they kept a dirty space, then we could not see anything.

The gravity of this afterlife space of atoms and everything else can do so much for us, if we only take the time to try and measure this for what it might be, but we will never know unless we get this topic up to speed.

This country was founded on dreams and every body legacy is to follow their dreams, and if you get to my situation at some point in your life, and you feel like you have run out of options, and I hope that day never comes, then try and remember me and the dream I had, and see if anything ever came of that free idea, because like it or not. This concept idea of mine is for you, and it has always been there for you, and sure you don't except gifts and you might have a habit of making them feel bad for wanting to give you a gift like this, and if that is the case, then I am sorry, but you could shoot down everything I offer, if for no other reason but you can, but it still is my dream to see that my inner thoughts make this a reality, and that you are happy to have such a possibility some day.

I don't know why I try.

I would like to say that I get no respect, but the person that use to say that is dead, and I seam to be the only one here who is respecting him as much as I am respecting you.

Yes I am playing both sides. I am doing this idea concept for free for humans and afterlife. It is a good deal for both of them.

You are not obligated to ever try the idea if you don't want too, but regardless how you feel about it, or anything else to do with me.

I did it for you!

Think about this. How many people you know is willing to claim that there is afterlife, and on top of that. claim that he knows how to communicate with them for free.

What else am I getting out of it, unless I make it happen?

Why would my inner thoughts do such a thing after all it has done with this topic so far?

How many people you know that could even come up with such an idea, and then on top of that. Be able to figure out a way where it actually can be done for free. there are no smoke or mirrors on this possibility. It will be measured in science. That part of the idea concept is already in place.
The staff is already in place. Everything is in place except for me.

It will only be done with real patients of Brain Gate that has volunteered their time to this possibility.

Thank you for reading my invisible thoughts,

Tim

wollery

3rd July 2008, 07:23 AM

Tim4848

3rd July 2008, 11:11 PM

No

That is the best you can do Wollery?

Little 10 Toes

3rd July 2008, 11:45 PM

Is your whining and complaining that no one will do your idea the best you can do Tim4848?

wollery

4th July 2008, 12:29 AM

That is the best you can do Wollery?If I engage in reasoned debate, you respond with screeds of non-sequiturs.

If I make fun of you, you respond with screeds of non-sequiturs.

If I respond to other people in this thread, you respond with screeds of non-sequiturs.

So I simply boiled the message down to the essence of what everyone has been saying to you since you first posted here.

Your idea is silly, your reasoning is completely flawed, your evidence is anecdotal, your beliefs are completely without evidence, your understanding of the machine you suggest using is almost completely non-existent, your understanding of neurology is almost completely non-existent, your understanding of psychology is almost non-existent, your ability to communicate is woeful, you have done nothing to advance the proposed project by yourself (despite having been given the address, phone number and email of the braingate company), you've accused me of being a Chinese spy, nobody wants to be involved in your scheme in any way, shape or form, and you've been posting here for over a year, saying the same things over and over again.

If you had the faintest idea what you were talking about you might get at least some people here to take you seriously, but nobody does.

In essence, the response to you is, No.

Cuddles

4th July 2008, 07:44 AM

Why don't you tell us how you really feel, Wol? ;)

Alice Shortcake

4th July 2008, 03:06 PM

Don't hold back, Wollery! I can't stand all this pussyfooting about...

Tim4848

6th July 2008, 02:10 AM

Thank you for reading my invisible thoughts,

We are at a very important time in our lives. Gas prices is raising everybody comfort zone to higher levels than ever before, and the price at the grocery is going up as well.

Seams like everything is going over seas, and you know all the rest.

Then you know what is going to happen if each one of the candidates wins.

Side bar:

Don't underestimate your inner energy, if it is anti-gravity, or some other part of it, we are there as you are here today, because you can not underestimate an energy that has the capability that our inner energy can do.

There will be a movie like the one I am about to tell you a little about. Not that there actually will be one, but they should.

Another Time machine movie where they go back to the past, and then they go to the out of body afterlife future, and how it will play out after it happens.

The Government will hire a lot of them for National Security potential, and then ADT hires them to monitor security equipment, and some will teach classes on the Internet, and all the money they will make will go to something like Pay Pal, and then it is passes down the family tree in things like taxes, and yes the Government will get their cut, and the Internet will be where new jobs will be made, because somebody will have to monitor this afterlife potential, and the wealthy will want to play in on this new game as well, and then they will have people understand how it should play out, because they have the ability to look down the road.

they know what their role will be in that position, and it would be in the role of helping any way that any of us can, but we first have to buy into it, because even if you are religious and you hear about the day the world will come to an end, and all this stuff, and then they could go to heaven or something like that.

If that is the case, then they knew way back when that we do have the ability to leave our body and with stand anything that you would think could hurt us, but it don't.

Because they have learned one way or another real quickly that they don't have options in this possibility, and you might as well just lay everybody off and just take us out of or misery or something, because if you see happier days a head in this next election.

I believe we can do it all.

If you study my topic to a lot of religions, you could see how this possibility could play out.

If we try my idea and it works. Believe it or not, but that might also be the day we could take our first step toward building ships to communicate with aliens.

Please take a moment to sit down, it only gets better from here.

Please pay attention so you can explain it at the water coolers, or where ever you work.

One alien ship has the potential to carry a lot of afterlife people, and given the fact that most aliens never seam to leave there ship because of equipment problems and we will leave it at that, depending how rich they are and capable of doing this type of stuff.
You don't have to worry if the ship went real fast, because they would not even notice it.

In the future things are going to change quite a bit, as all the countries decides how many people can be born in one year for example.

At some point we try my idea and we do it just as I in vision we might have too, and then if it works then we will ask a lot of questions to the afterlife.

They will be on the front page of USA newspaper,CNN,NBC,CBS,ABC,Fox,science channel, and all the rest, because now we will have the opportunity to know the answer to the test, and what we can do with that information will open up a brand new market of people. We will need to do this. if we ever expect the opportunity to go through space to a different environment, and all the time we are trying to get the out of body afterlife more opportunities to do different things, that they might want to do to help out, and get paid for it.
I believe they will be able to help us out in a whole lot of different ways.

You will never have to worry about your kids again.

You will have one of the fastest first alerts that will be out there, and you can get that one probably in the family tree plan, and at what point each family tree will be allowed the money coming their way, based on their family tree, and how we decide how long our bills could go, but in the afterlife, your over head is pretty cheep, except for what ever plan you will have to pay, if you want all the options that afterlife will be provided, and the Government will make sure that their is not a monopoly in this field, and that people here in this country will have first bids at these type of jobs, and what ever else in that fields, because the opportunities can be done with out spending gas, and what gas is left will be used toward Government, even though we will be at a same amount, in case something ever happens, and all the Internet boot camp training that everybody could have the opportunity to be a part of, regardless of any age, because the Government sees new tax opportunities so they restore the dollar, and make it stronger than ever before, and it just keep growing and growing, and the biggest new strength to our military is the afterlife potential and even if there was not that many of them doing it, you still have to wonder, but that is where National Security comes in, and why it is important to have so many check and balance in this, and there will be jobs for that as well.

then one day after reviewing potential problems that might happen in 2012, we decide to place so many volunteer afterlife, that our willing to try this possibility, and place as many of them that would like to out into outer space and see if they could get a jump start into outer space, and maybe they will find a new Earth that has an magnetic field that is open to the same type of set up we have here.

Are you good at asking questions?

Would you like the opportunity to ask afterlife questions?

What would it hurt if I am right. I would imagine if you compare my idea against all type of strange things that has happen over the years, you just might find, that this topic fits them pretty good.

You can not stop movement, and this is the easiest way I know how to do it.

If I ask you not to try it. Just keep doing what you are already doing, and when our time comes, would we be interested in this idea, just in case it is possible.

Now we can set a date in the future where everybody will be given a pin number, one that they use, if they ever decide to try this idea.

Say they can experiment on it for one hundred years, and then you will be given the opportunity as well.

Does a hundred years sound like a good time to extend the private sector the opportunity.

sounds good, because that gives us a chance to stay up with the potential possibility that another country could be doing this as well.

Now for some that might seam hard to believe, but what country do you thing the kid sitting next to your school is from?

We train the smartest people in this field for all over the world, and if one or two gets an opportunity to try it, because we have thing where we won't to beat something to death before we will act on it, as another country could look at this as an opportunity.

Tim4848

6th July 2008, 02:39 AM

I imagine a few things to help you imagine more.

Would like a job at home where you get paid to watch the afterlife on the Internet, so you can use gas rations in the future toward things you want to do.

Not only do I offer a free idea to communicate with afterlife, and potentially all of us, and now I am telling you that you could get a job that you can do at home and you watch the afterlife during this time, and every once in a while they might come check that you are doing what you say you are doing, and that is why they are paying you, but hat is not for me to decide what way you want to play out your options in the future, I imagine some of you probably got it all figured out.

take this dot for example: . You can see it, at least I hope you can, but in the field of anti-matter. That little space has all type of potential energy, and if heat could make it rise for it weight, then I would imagine if you find your self in that situation, keep a cool thought.

What would you say to your self everyday in this situation.

What would you do in this floating situation, so it would never got old?

Maybe talk to some one, even if you had to wait a very long time.

How long in that situation are you willing to wait?

If you can entertain your self for long periods of time as I have practiced while being an introvert, then you should have no problem getting this to work for you as well, because if you have ever been in a situation where you are just bored to tears. You did make it through, but regardless if you get these type of tools or not in that situation, will depend on how far we are willing to use all of our imagination, and just like Disney was able to build his little dream, so could you, because you will have so many options, that the fun will never end, because the Rat Pack will be back, and hope will talk about how he thought he saw Elvis and you think I am wasting your time, wait until the past comes back and tells you about the vacation they have been on, and if their has ever been a number that you should try and some point in your life, and you want to add it to your bucket list as well.

This idea concept of mine is it.

Even with higher gas prices, it is still free!

I was not in that situation very long, but I can run the numbers if energy can not be destroyed, and everything is in everything, but it is not on C.S.I., so it must not be true, but afterlife don't have a voice in main stream, and they really should, because this is the direction we really need to go, and sure if gas goes up tomorrow my idea will still be free.

I am more than willing to ride a bike there if they would allow me the opportunity and I could not afford the gas to get there. What ever it takes, just in case I am right.

In closing:

I am doing this for you now, but I would like the opportunity to do it with you at a later date.

Thank you for being a part of my invisible thoughts, and I hope you have a nice Holiday week end.

wollery

6th July 2008, 09:08 AM

Q.E.D.

Little 10 Toes

6th July 2008, 09:11 AM

Tim4848, what have you done to promote your "idea"? Why haven't you done anything other than post on websites? Why do you keep avoiding answering relevant questions and comments?

Apathia

6th July 2008, 03:17 PM

I must say that Tim has gotten far more attention here than at any other forum site.
Sadly, it's not the kind of attention I'd want.

Hey Tim,

The guy at the state fair, the one in the dunking chair, he gets lots of attention.
But the guy who's enjoying the fair with his friends or his date, gets a whole better quality of attention.

Get out of the dunking chair, Man!

I confess. We enjoy every time you fall into the water, especially when you're insisting you're still high and dry while you're soaking wet.
But please stop giving us this cheap and pathetic entertainment.

I know this is like speaking to an abused spouse.
But all you've got to do is post around in other threads and be a part of the community.
Take Plumjam for example, a fun and particpating member, though most don't buy most of what he says. But we like him.
And you could be liked to, for more than just a target.

roseglass

6th July 2008, 03:47 PM

No overt offense, but I thought I was reading a Heaven's Gate infomercial when I started reading this final thread.

This would be a great topic for the humor forum.

Tim4848

7th July 2008, 08:16 PM

Thank you for reading my thoughts,

I have no problem after the concept idea is in place doing what ever you feel I need to be a more well rounded person, but not until then, unless you can show me that it is not possible.

This idea goes a lot deeper than just a request on a piece of paper for a bucket list.

What would it hurt?

Everything in my bucket is free!

No obligations

My whole concept is basically for you, and I don't see where there is a problem in that.

If you don't want the free gift. That is your option. I am not claiming that you would ever have to do this in that situation.

what are you worried about. Be free to believe what ever you feel happens to you after you die.

sure science has helped to extend that possibility even longer now, so it might not seam to be something you should worry about right now, and I believe that is even better reason we start focusing on it now, so you would have a better understanding of it at a later time when it might mean more to you.

Example:

You have a better idea of where the experimenting for this possibility is taking place, and then you find that you are in a situation to try it as well in that state, and you make it happen because you knew more about the concept as well.

I believe you don't have to know everything about everything, but you should at least have the just of the topic, just in case you might need to draw off that possibility at a later date.

Example:

I never see people in wheel chairs any more. they all seam to have some fancy machine that they are driving around in. If I ever find my self in that situation, it would be nice to have that option, and then I have a little bit of experience with that topic as well, because I work for a fast food company one time who did not want to fix their side walk for people in wheel chairs. I understand how things are when you only look at it from one direction.

We now live in a society where we don't trust any one any more, and at that time we also lost some of that free spirit as well.

There is a lot to be said when somebody like me comes along one day and saids that I got your back, and you say that you don't want to have any part of it.

I have been there. I have seen what you can not comprehend at this time. I looked around and posed the question. If all of us were place in the situation that I was in, and you wanted the ability to communicate with family members, or any body else. What would be the best way to do that, and then I offer my idea.

Can I tell you that it will work?

No

Can I tell you that if you don't try something. It will not work either?

Yes

Why this idea over others?

Because this idea can be done in a way that can be measured by science as it is happening, and it can be done for free.

The last I checked free and safe is a good thing. No animals or humans will be hurt in any way during all aspects of this possibility.

The plan is to create an open door possibility for any body interested in this possibility.

We all have heard of the no student left behind plan, and I have no doubt that cost a lot of money, and then I am claiming don't leave any potential afterlife behind and offer it free, and we are back to a dead stop.

It will always be a dead stop if you look at it that way.

Dead stop, over, done, and anything else you could imagine, but you only imagine that way, because that is the way you have been programmed all your life, even though people tell you that you should question everything, you decided to leave the dead alone.

We have never asked the dead if they would like to be alone.

We assume that they would like to be alone.

We sure do assume a lot in this field of science.

I was there, but others assume I was not.

They say that 80% of Americans believe that their is some type of afterlife, but we assume that we are just hoping, even though we don't know that their is a built in reason why all most every body believe this. Is it a built in thing from our inner DNA?

They say to always listen to your body because it knows when you need to know something about it, but science leads you to believe that your inner thoughts just like to trick you, and I have no doubt if your inner thoughts are tricking you that there is a reason.

I have the freedom to explore this topic, and yes it is a big topic to explore, but that is only because nobody else has taken the time to explore it.

Sure I would like to think that over all, that I an not much different than any of you, but until we do something in this field of science that I feel is being over looked, then this topic is what I am focused on.

Have you ever wound up doing something, because you knew if you did not do it, it would not get done.

You can't say that I am lazy when it comes to promoting this possibility.

It just needs done at this time in our life.

It just needs a chance to become a part of main stream possibilities, because it is the only option I see that might work in the situation I was in.

What if there is out of body afterlife, but this experiment will never work?

At least we tried and we gave others the opportunity to try as well, and no one is out anything.

Paradigm Hope

Been there done that

Everything takes it's allotted amount of time

Sure I would love to enjoy life, and play corn hole all day, but that has not been my calling in life.

Sure I could stop posting on the Internet, and this topic would drop back in to the archives and it may never be seen again.

Is that what you want.

To never be seen or heard from again?

I don't believe that, or you would come to this topic once. Call me stupid, a drugy, and everything else you would like, but you don't do that.

If you do feel that way, then please fill free to call me what ever you like and leave for a month or something and then come back and see if every body else has done the same.

Don't be surprise to find that the views went up while you were gone.

We can measure this?

If you don't agree with my concept. Leave this topic and send a message to me that it will never work, and do what ever else you would like to do.

I will even help you to do this.

I will measure it for you.

I will take a paper and write down every body who post on this thread after I place this post.

Every one that claims what ever they want to claim, and then allow them to say what ever they want about me, and then leave.

I will write down the date that they posted last, and then report how long to their next post.

Just remember while you are doing what ever you are doing with your post. that afterlife right now do not have that option.

So where are we at again?

say your site name is John Doe, and you have followed this topic and you feel that my idea will never work. Then you post that on this site, and say what ever you want about me as well, and then you show your value by never coming back to this topic again, because you are sending a message to me and others that you don't believe in it or support it with your time.

Now you can change the subject and stay around showing me that you do need attention now and in the potential afterlife.

You might help me in a way that I could never imagine. Maybe you spoke of this possibility to somebody who turns out making a bigger difference in this field than I ever could.

I believe that things happen for a reason, and my idea concept falls into that possibility quite well.

So who wants to be the first person I can measure on my paper, and then I can post it later?

Tim4848

7th July 2008, 09:00 PM

I do admit that some of the other sites here are getting a lot better.

Here is a interesting link they have at the beginning of this one topic.

http://www.zteck.com/directory.htm

I wonder if any of this could be connected to this topic as well.

Akhenaten

7th July 2008, 11:16 PM

Apathia

7th July 2008, 11:32 PM

Clunck.
Splash!

Loss Leader

8th July 2008, 11:00 AM

Space probably covers a very high percentage of everything around us, except for things like our heads,

Present company excluded.

Now if we wore a really special helmet that could block outside energy from your thoughts, then that would probably be a very good trick, and how you will act is such a field would be something

I imagine that you would act like you were suffocating to death.

The staff is already in place. Everything is in place except for me.

Amen, brother.

You can't say that I am lazy when it comes to promoting this possibility.

It just needs done at this time in our life.

It just needs a chance to become a part of main stream possibilities, because it is the only option I see that might work in the situation I was in.

Oh, I can say you are lazy when it comes to promoting this possibility. You Are Lazy When It Comes To Promoting This Possibility.

You have done absolutely nothing to promote your idea. You haven't written up a proposal. You haven't contacted the company that makes the BrainGate machine. You haven't contacted any scientists doing any work in neurology. You haven't bought a book to learn how the basic concepts work. You complain that $23.00 is more than you intend to spend implementing your entire concept. You haven't gone to the library to get a free book even when a title has been suggested to you. The only people you talk to are people who cannot possibly help you.

So, yes, you are lazy. You refuse to do any real work.

Investigate some time just how much work Edison and his employees put into the lightbulb (your favorite example). Investigate how much money Edison invested in the idea. Investigate exactly how much hard work it takes to make even the best idea into a reality.

You Are Lazy.

Tim4848

14th July 2008, 07:46 PM

Thank you for reading all my past invisible thoughts under the Topic "The Department of Positive Out of Body Possibilities.

It has been a breaking story for quite some time, but as of yet. The press has not reported on it yet.

They don't report, you can not decide.

Where is Fox?

Where is CNN?

Where is MSNBC?

Where is ABC?

Where is that other one? yeah CBS?

this story has been developing for quite some time on the Internet, but people are still undecided on this because they are not getting enough information about what Tim has been talking about for quite some time.

It seams as though they can not get enough of him.

Tim Brewer use to say that everything takes it's allotted amount of time.

Now he is saying that the clock is ticking, and enough is enough!

Tim Brewer is out of Dayton Ohio, but he speaks to all markets around the world, and what he keeps saying seams to be consistent with all the information that all reporters have reported about this topic since the beginning of any type of Data in this field.

This idea cross over into every person that has ever been a part of this life.

Please fill free to research anything in this field and you will find that it is all connected to this topic, and just reporting that could keep the ratings up for anybody who is willing to Air Tim Brewer's Possibility.

For those of you that are new to this idea concept and would like to know more about it.

Just goggle:

The Department of Positive Out of Body Possibility.

This topic is safe for all ages, because it effects all ages.

Ignorance is expensive and this topic is over due for a coming out party, because Tim Brewer has struggled enough.

Tim Brewer is looking forward to his next topic:

"The Brewer play book"

" I plan on starting that topic as soon as this topic is finally resolved."

He is not getting any younger and this idea concept has been ready for quite some time.

It is quite obvious that Tim Brewer is not willing to do it the right way, but you still can't discount the concept idea all together, because we have invested a lot of time in it, and it is good back up plan that would be easy to implement during a time in history where everything else is going through the roof.

Not this idea concept though. the longer we wait, the cheaper it gets.

The next time Clark Howard is in Dayton Ohio, he should check on Tim Brewer, and see the $350.00 car he drives around in.

How is it, that a man who was born and raised in the back yard of the Wright Brothers, Paul Lawrence Dunbar, NCR, potentially IBM, home of Wright Patterson, and those little green men.

The peace talks, birth place of Thomas A. Edison.

they say the fruit stay pretty close to the vine, and sure he might be a dud, but to ignore a possibility when everything about it has free written all over it, is beyond me, but it happens everyday, and regardless how many times Tim Brewer speaks for him self, because he does not have anybody on payroll, has only helped to slow down this possibility.

Even though he enjoys working every day and helping to support his family, he is only as good as the time in the day that is allotted to this possibility, and after he worked all day and night yesterday making pizza, and yelling to his wife to rub is leg in the middle of the night from leg cramps, as he was all tangled in the blankets.

How many more time bandit post must he make before he is given the chance to focus just on this topic, and also give him the tools he needs to explore this possibility and report his findings while doing the experiment.
given the tolls to explain it better?

Tim Brewer is offering America a chance to explore something worth exploring. and be able to do all of it for free, when you relate it to this idea concept.

Free!

Is it possible that Tim Brewer might be on to something after all.

How can you decide?

No media outlet has attempted to report this topic.

How can you keep up with it everyday, if they don't report it every day.

this is the first topic in this field that needs more attention than ever before, because there is so many details where people need all the answers.

They need to here the best information they can, so they can decide.

What media outlet has that type of power to get the information out, but to place Tim Brewer in a situation where he can translate it better than he is doing now.

It is quite obvious that he is rambling on about something and the longer they keep the American People in the dark about this idea concept, the more
the American public will start to question just how serious you are about reporting anything.

It is O.K. to scare the American public, but to not let them decide for them self about this possibility, is just plain wrong.

Please take the time to goggle this topic and count all the views on all the different sites.

Might be a million by now, if not more.

The information is getting out there, and a lot of voters are being kept in the dark about this possibility for quite too long, and it will only be a matter of time before it could potentially come back to hurt us in so many ways, if we continue to ignore this potentially positive idea concept.

Don't kid your self, the possibility is quite real, and it can be done right here in America, and the first politician who takes advantage of this possibility will have more new undecided Vote's if they address the topic correctly, because 80% of Americans believe that there is some type of afterlife, and all Americans enjoy taking their self out of pain and into pleasure every day, and if you address it correctly. It would go into action now and it will not cost your campaign one penny.

Just by supporting it. they will give people hope, and inform them of something that the media is not reporting on at th same time.

Sure they can discuss it in different ways with out referring to this topic, but they can actually get a free action plan out of this one and more Votes than their opponent.

Arnold might make the air cleaner in Washington.if he is appointed, but Tim Brewer will offer a way of communicating with potential out of body afterlife and helping in every other way.

Some have felt for a while that I could do the country some good if I was given a chance to also focus on other issues a well, because i do seam to touch on things with down to Earth common sense, even though some might not agree on everything I believe in, but they are willing to over look that, because they can relate to me in so many ways.

I am blunt honest every time I post anything on the Internet, and I truly care.

I care so much I never talk about it.

I don't like watching these politicians out there selling them self everyday and how they are doing it.

I would not have a problem if they did some of this after they got the job, but not before.

They act worst than me, when I am trying to sell this topic.

I ignore a lot that goes on, because I am lazy. If you want me to help, then you have to push me, because that is the only way you will get this country running better, and anything else is a denial dream that has been going on way to long.

Today though we will continue to just talk about this topic as things continue to get worst.

Where is this countries Free idea concept Hot Line and how do they go about to listening to the Heartland of America?

What do I have to say or do with out compromising my dignity that this is a good idea concept, and as much as L don't like posting some of the advertising in most of these post. I must continue to do it until it hits a safe media hot button or something.

Maybe it is the fact that NBC is driving my son all over America and following him around with his girl friend and doing a reality series while his dad has been out here for a few years spilling his guts about this Free idea that could benefit all of man kind, and done in a way that is safe, easy to do, and free.

Side bar:

Press Conference time!

"Hello, my name is Tim Brewer, and I support my invisible thoughts, just like you should support yours.

I like to try a hundred different thoughts, and see if maybe one or two of them just might work.

I'm sorry if somebody else thinks that way, like Thomas A. Edison, but why re-invent the wheel, if you don't need too?

You decide Election 2008

Side bar Press Conference sleeper:

President Bush could do something with this topic now, and take a chance and see if it don't help his legacy as well, because he could build this in any one of the wings of his museum. because history will show that he is always willing to do what is best for the American people, and do it in a way that an be understood by every man woman or child, if need be, and he is not afraid to drill for this possibility, or any other, if it helps all man kind as this possibly could, and sense he has so much money tied up in so many different fields now. he could still make an impact with this possibility, because it does give all baby boomer's hope, and when they are getting closer to their final page as a human, they don't need the embarrassments that they are filling their thoughts with every day.

They deserve more than that.

they need to know that they will not be left behind as well, because our parents deserves more.

We should not be embarrassed to talk about this possibility, and place it on hold, as it is so easy to do, with very little thought now.

This idea concept is easier to put in place than programing an old VCR.

Believe it or not, but we don't have nothing to fear but fear it self.

I don't know about you, but my dad is 78 years old, and even though he can play corn hole with the best them. He is still in the dark about this possibility, because it is not main stream enough.

The assembly line of life might be longer now, but it still is only an assembly
line.

I'm willing to back up my comments. and follow through on this possibility if asked and given the correct free tools.

Tim

Giggywig

14th July 2008, 08:01 PM

tl;dr

You expect news agencies to report on anonymous internet threads on random forums? Have you contacted them? Please do, and please report back with their answer.

Tim4848

14th July 2008, 08:47 PM

Present company excluded.

I imagine that you would act like you were suffocating to death.

Amen, brother.

Oh, I can say you are lazy when it comes to promoting this possibility. You Are Lazy When It Comes To Promoting This Possibility.

You have done absolutely nothing to promote your idea. You haven't written up a proposal. You haven't contacted the company that makes the BrainGate machine. You haven't contacted any scientists doing any work in neurology. You haven't bought a book to learn how the basic concepts work. You complain that $23.00 is more than you intend to spend implementing your entire concept. You haven't gone to the library to get a free book even when a title has been suggested to you. The only people you talk to are people who cannot possibly help you.

So, yes, you are lazy. You refuse to do any real work.

Investigate some time just how much work Edison and his employees put into the lightbulb (your favorite example). Investigate how much money Edison invested in the idea. Investigate exactly how much hard work it takes to make even the best idea into a reality.

You Are Lazy.

I have already invested the time and figured out a way were we can do it for free!

roseglass

14th July 2008, 09:10 PM

I have already invested the time and figured out a way were we can do it for free!

Lay it down on the table, don't double deal, be real - what's the degree to which you mean free?

Appreciate a clear and direct, but relevant, response ...

Cheers.

Tim4848

15th July 2008, 04:06 AM

Lay it down on the table, don't double deal, be real - what's the degree to which you mean free?

Appreciate a clear and direct, but relevant, response ...

Cheers.

Good question roseglass,

Cross training the patients of BrainGate does not cost money.

It could be set up in one day, and I could do it for free.

A different mind set with tools that we are already using do not cost money.

I would like the chance to work with the patients of BrainGate, and then let them decide if they want to do it or not. On a regular basis it will not effect one single thing they are doing now.

the only difference will be after their death of natural causes.

They will once again have the chance to try the machine for free.

This will be their new vehicle into the future.

The only gas needed is for me to drive to Boston and spend a day with the patients of Cyberkinetics Neurotechnology Systems, Inc.

They don't own them do they?

I feel it is a good deal. They are already experimenting with the machine now anyway. Why not just follow it through.

With so many handicapped people being allowed to go to the front row of life now. why would this be any different.

The get the chance to try it first and decide if they can do it or not.

Yes, there is a difference in setting it up for free and if you believe in the idea or not.

Side Bar:

Press Conference:

Don't just get caught up in just learning French for Obama, and take some time to visualize my concept.

In short, don't be distracted with all the things you could be focused on, but we are not. Fox talks about we report , you decide.

Where are they at?

I don't see them reporting, so how can you decide.

I believe that this concept is good for America.

It is always good to have something to work toward, and if it turns out to happen, then we made it happen just by trying it.

In the Big picture of friction energy, it is inside information that is measured by friction.

You might be smart enough to name a few things that don't have an inside to it, but most things do, so that in it self. Shows the percentages are in the favor of this possibility.

Example:

Somebody might believe that we turn to nothing after we die.

Our reality now is based on nothing.

I have been in the Near Death out of body reality, as I have been on field trips for other human sites as well.

Believe me when I say that we can do this. Just get Fox News or somebody else to do a report on this topic, and let other decide as well, or you know some body who can pull some strings and do this as it should of been from day one, and that is taking this possibility right now at a National Security problem, if we don't address it correctly.

Energy can not be destroyed and there is an inside to a lot of different things in science, and this possibility might be the same as well.

Do I believe that medium Lisa Williams can communicate with the dead?

No more than I can tell you that my idea will work.

I do believe that Lisa Williams has had an out of body experience because of the way that she presents her self, but she is doing it for money, as I am doing it for free!!!!!!!!!!

As safe and easy as dying of natural causes and having a gps plan just in case I am right.

Example:

What do you do after you fall off your conveyor belt of life some time?

Are you expecting signs to what you are to do next.

Do you think your energy just takes off like something out of control heading up or down, or if you have trouble with that. You just don't exist anymore, but that is not how I see it happening.

I see ocean of afterlife thought. A ocean so vast that it makes the sky Blue.

This is not the case from outer space except for wet spots that will show up as vast energy as well.

We see afterlife in the vast of blue outside, but we don't see it from space.

That makes this type of energy no different than any other energy, except that it is inside it's environment, and we need to give them the opportunity to phone home.

Science has always had a problem seeing the big picture, because they have to spend so much time on just one slice of any field, as I am free to come and go into any field and see where this possibility might happen. Sure there has been others who believe things in this field that I am lecturing on, but I do believe I have the best deal out there, if I am allowed the opportunity to try it.

Believe it or not, but we have made some mistakes through out history, it not for any other reason than the fact that we have not truly analyzed it correctly as I am trying to do.

If you want all the bells and whistles with this possibility, then that can be talked about at a different time, but don't let this paradigm Hope fade for some family DNA trees of life, as we have done in the past. Now that we could make this a good plan.

Everything in life happens for a reason and my idea concept is no different.

Just something to think about, as you do that for free as well.

If you believe you got all the answers to everything that might be possible in this field then please disregard every thing I have ever said and go on with your inner thoughts, and do what ever makes you happy, but if you are like me and can see the value in this possibility, then please help this lazy guy make this happen, because regardless how easy it is for me to visualize the out come of continual evolution regardless the state of dead space in this realm field, We will still have an inside and nothing can change.

Science also has a problem of looking down at stuff, because it is easier for one.

They also do not make it a habit to research this field in the area I feel could get better results.

They like to write it off to write off theories, like you are dreaming, your thoughts are playing tricks on you because you have a lot going on and we would not want you to freak out in that situation.

You too one day might have the opportunity to try this concept as well, but it don't take a rocket science to know, that if you don't buy into my concept, hook line and sinker as I have spoke about it before, then the chances of it working is much Creator.

We can not win if we don't play.

I report, you decide.

I have painted many thoughts on this topic so far, and I hope you have the ability to see what direction we need to go.

I watch as banks need saved, because somebody made too many mistakes.

Please take the time and ask somebody else other than me to report on this possibility and see if there is something there or not.

Sure you can go back through this topic and read about a lot of people that don't like how I explain the possibility, or that my post are long, but at least I am reporting and even though the media might have to work a little harder and follow this story, or you can put this on hold even longer as other countries try and take advantage of anything we are lazy on.

Murphy law I would imagine:

Something bad always happen when we put things like this on hold too long.

Just because some might feel I am lazy in this or that, does not have to stop you from drawing on that weak nest of mine and help me make this idea concept a reality.

It seamed to me that every body was happy to see those people come back after being held for so long.

Please find it in your heart to give this possibility a chance as well.

If we can get excited when Lindbergh crosses the ocean in an airplane that uses gas, then we should consider this alternative as well.

Believe it or not. there is a reason in life why we always like to hear both sides of any story, and that is to allow us the opportunity to make a good decision, and we all have seen people who have only looked at something one way, even though that one way might be wrong.

My idea is just allowing somebody else the opportunity to try and tune in the channel we are trying to measure, and see if things happen on that monitor.

If I was allowed more time to just focus and train on the fundamentals of this possibility.

The sooner we could get it done for free.

Side bar: Press Conference

Would you like the opportunity to communicate with humans,

Just in case you find your self in that situation?

Would you like the opportunity to communicate with humans,

You don't have to believe me. Check it out.

How can science have it both ways?

How can science say the sky is blue based on vast space, but looking back down on Earth from outer space, turns out not to be the case..

There are so many things out there that could save us time.

I retired many years ago from unorganized sports and I question if there might be a need for unorganized science.

When I played sports. We did everything they did on a TV, game, and we did it with a lot less players, and we wasted no time deciding where the out of bounds are, but this concept of mine is like the free button on a bingo card.

Thank you for reading my invisible thoughts,

Tim

Your reality places you in a sports car, and if you decide. You might haul your body to this location and buy that car.

This idea concept of mine is no different except the patients of Brain Gate gets the first chance at it.

If your mind set can't believe it is possible, then you are letting your emotions control your thoughts, because the directions to this possibility is really quite easy to do.

Think of it like calling a play in flag football.

You try it, and you see if anything happen.

Believe it or not, but the ,ore times we try this idea concept, the better it's chances, because if it was not possible today, does not stop it from evolving tomorrow.

Inner energy as ours is already there, and all we have to do is give them the opportunity to try it again after they die.

they move to this energy surface where friction will be measured for anybody to analyze, and decide if there is anything here or not.

By placing patients in this situation, and trying different sensors if needed, then you can at least say you have a plan.

You could honestly say to your self and everything you stand for.

That you might be back.

They will turn in a flight plan before the situation happens and what type of customer science friendly it might be at that time.

Patients emotions and everyday training will be the key, because if there is an inside energy, then this might be their opportunity to operated this machine sensor.

Sure we could imagine thousand different things like if this was possible, why not try a different way now, or what ever, but this is my free idea concept, and with out dragging this out any longer.

I conclude this side bar Press Conference, until further notice.

wollery

15th July 2008, 05:29 AM

Lay it down on the table, don't double deal, be real - what's the degree to which you mean free?

Appreciate a clear and direct, but relevant, response ...I assume that you haven't read the rest of the thread, or you'd have known that the response would be none of those things.

Little 10 Toes

15th July 2008, 07:31 AM

Tim4848, please define friction energy.

Loss Leader

15th July 2008, 12:17 PM

Jesus Tapdancing Christ

Hokulele

15th July 2008, 01:02 PM

The only gas needed is for me to drive to Boston and spend a day with the patients of Cyberkinetics Neurotechnology Systems, Inc.

That is not free. Pay for it yourself. My time isn't free. Contact them yourself.

roseglass

15th July 2008, 01:39 PM

I assume that you haven't read the rest of the thread, or you'd have known that the response would be none of those things.

Yes and no for that one Wollery, - some of it was too mind boggling to read. I wanted to see if the word regurgitation system was as efficient as it has already been proved to be, or if, on the off chance, that there was a point to the ramblings. Experiment failed, there was no point.

:alien009:

Tim4848

15th July 2008, 02:21 PM

Yes and no for that one Wollery, - some of it was too mind boggling to read. I wanted to see if the word regurgitation system was as efficient as it has already been proved to be, or if, on the off chance, that there was a point to the ramblings. Experiment failed, there was no point.

:alien009:

What experiment are you talking about?

Tim4848

15th July 2008, 02:23 PM

That is not free. Pay for it yourself. My time isn't free. Contact them yourself.

Thank you for your support, and I did send Cyberkinetics an email today.

Tim4848

15th July 2008, 02:42 PM

Thank you for reading my invisible thoughts,

I stand on this topic for what it is, and that is a topic.

I stand for us exploring this field of science regardless if you believe their is any science to it or not.

I do not flip flop on this topic regardless who I speak too about it.

I am always open to new information where science can prove that I am wrong, and then we all could just focus on something else. That time is not here, and it might never come, because my idea might be right.

Now science throws things up there from time to time, maybe using wording that might be hard to understand, or trying to make something sound complicated when it is not.

Bottom line:

Science can not tell you.

Some of you out there seam to feel that you can take there information and take it to the bank.

Can you truly bank on bad advice?

Have they ever been there?

What emotion are they measuring their data with?

My goal is to focus toward what data we have and give the other side just as much opportunity.

The potential other side don't have options

Side bar:

There is no right or wrong with anything we talk about because we are just visualizing thoughts, of different free thoughts.

Our founding fathers would of done this the same way.

I don't look at any of this as something that is going to help me.

I am looking how it could help everybody, but on the same hand I believe we need to get it started as soon as possible.

I do not flip flop on this topic, as you are free to do the same, but on the same hand.

There is other options.

roseglass

15th July 2008, 03:31 PM

What experiment are you talking about?

Ah good question Tim4848!

I will attempt to explain ludicrously as possible

Well, some folks don't believe in the experiment.

This much I will address for free, since the need to know is so great that those that need to know, don't know much about the knowing that they need to know.

Our founding fathers knew of this great experiment and thusly proclaimed it from sea to shining see!

This much we can be assured of by invisible spectrums of coalescences, as they deeply reach a mental confluence of agreeableness with the medulla-ablongata

Tim - of that which you seek to know I will only be able to address through effervescent images sketched into the lobial frontage of brain nerve cordage.

Given that my trans-galactic press conference will only be organized by others siders - we know the outcomes given for verbal insertion.

Who will afront my gassage?

I shall personally come to you to express the meaning of the 'great experiment'.

My bookings for plane tintinnabulations is in need of fundage though, so the rest will be explaination for free!

I feel the world deserves this much - only the other side would reject so

All impressions aside, dodging the direct question of experimentation in favor of light, run on sentences will bad grammar and indirect sounding confabulations should be of some entertainment to those that have see the light of the lobes in question!

Yea though we wonder aimlessly through the Valley of Anton Wilson, my slack and my staff does comfort me.

The Reverend of Stang knows of the experiment of which I speak, go unto him thusly.

The noodley appendage doth thwap me and waken me from my slumber.

Whence forth do I yack?

Yaks may be involved in the experiment, upon whose question you seek to inquire!

Can you possibly directly ask a question while being steeped in indirection and predilection?

One can only ask.

May you see the experiment with your invisible thought lightbodies!

As many have seen before, before their bases were all belong to science

Lobially Etched,
Roseglass

juryjone

15th July 2008, 04:52 PM

Ah good question Tim4848!

I will attempt to explain ludicrously as possible

Well, some folks don't believe in the experiment.

...snip...
The noodley appendage doth thwap me and waken me from my slumber.

Whence forth do I yack?

Yaks may be involved in the experiment, upon whose question you seek to inquire!

Can you possibly directly ask a question while being steeped in indirection and predilection?

One can only ask.

May you see the experiment with your invisible thought lightbodies!

As many have seen before, before their bases were all belong to science

Lobially Etched,
Roseglass

Now THAT makes sense! Finally!

Wheezebucket

15th July 2008, 05:15 PM

Tim4848

15th July 2008, 10:13 PM

Ah good question Tim4848!

I will attempt to explain ludicrously as possible

Well, some folks don't believe in the experiment.

This much I will address for free, since the need to know is so great that those that need to know, don't know much about the knowing that they need to know.

Our founding fathers knew of this great experiment and thusly proclaimed it from sea to shining see!

This much we can be assured of by invisible spectrums of coalescences, as they deeply reach a mental confluence of agreeableness with the medulla-ablongata

Tim - of that which you seek to know I will only be able to address through effervescent images sketched into the lobial frontage of brain nerve cordage.

Given that my trans-galactic press conference will only be organized by others siders - we know the outcomes given for verbal insertion.

Who will afront my gassage?

I shall personally come to you to express the meaning of the 'great experiment'.

My bookings for plane tintinnabulations is in need of fundage though, so the rest will be explaination for free!

I feel the world deserves this much - only the other side would reject so

All impressions aside, dodging the direct question of experimentation in favor of light, run on sentences will bad grammar and indirect sounding confabulations should be of some entertainment to those that have see the light of the lobes in question!

Yea though we wonder aimlessly through the Valley of Anton Wilson, my slack and my staff does comfort me.

The Reverend of Stang knows of the experiment of which I speak, go unto him thusly.

The noodley appendage doth thwap me and waken me from my slumber.

Whence forth do I yack?

Yaks may be involved in the experiment, upon whose question you seek to inquire!

Can you possibly directly ask a question while being steeped in indirection and predilection?

One can only ask.

May you see the experiment with your invisible thought lightbodies!

As many have seen before, before their bases were all belong to science

Lobially Etched,
Roseglass

Trying to be a copy cat to my thoughts going a wrong direction is nothing more than a time bandit.

Wheezebucket

15th July 2008, 10:39 PM

Time Bandits? Another good movie.

Tim4848

15th July 2008, 11:25 PM

Guys I just got back from seeing 'The Hulk', and I've got some theories about black holes I'd like to run by you if you get a chance. I'm working on some string theory numbers too, but I haven't had a chance to see Hancock yet so they're a little iffy. BUT, if I'm right, this'll be even bigger than my Goonies/DNA connection.

All hail movie science!

Besides the cell phone what else has it brought us over the years?

I would imagine if you throw in books and magazines, because those things would be considered evidence as well when people thoughts are persuade in the way they follow through with things.

Copy cat evolution is natural, but at times, just like coping a different copy of the same picture or memo. It has the ability to change in the way it looks.

Pandora box is the original to my claim, but you must give Pandora the opportunity to find you.

When Tom Hanks was stuck on that island, it was us who decided not to give him the tools he needed to leave that island.

We could of place a safety box on that island with GPS, and anything else that we would like to do. but we elect not too.

Right brain thinking can solve almost any problem if given the tools needed to make it happen, but if my idea works, that could all change.

A man can only live so long in our culture now, but if my idea is able to make that time even longer basing it on science law, that energy can not be destroyed.

80% of a job is just showing up.

People are always worried about leaving something behind after they die in our culture, maybe a legacy or something.

What they will be leaving behind is something that can not be destroyed.

Inner energy.

How many shows of C.S.I. do you have too watch before you realized that there is evidence to everything.

The blue sky and how it interacts with light is based on this concept.

Talk in this space and you make friction.

Think in this space and you make friction

Friction of energy from with in space that will determine if it is possible or not.

Friction in energy of inner thought.

The law for my idea is nothing new.

When we were kids we could talk in different ways and draw the attention of a friend or something, but now with all the options we have. This idea of mine could be done, if we just focus on it.

An on and off switch might elect to decide if any thing can work or not. At least the things we are able to harness anyway.

My idea is now ready for an on or off switch.

You elect to try it, and we try it.

To save time with this, lets take a vote, and to save time with that. we will try a Murphy law elections.

Only three votes can be cast, but they have to be cast in every scenario.

The votes will be added, and then we will have a Murphy law election.

Your vote no as a human in this example is No = 1
Afterlife vote yes as an potential vote yes = 1
My vote is yes based on Murphy law potential of yes=1

Look up at a blue sky and it is so vast that it is blue, but look back at Earth but you don't see it in the same way.

Get next to anything vast up close and it can be over whelming, but look at it from a far and it is nothing.

We take space for granted and our inner thoughts as well, because so many are taught to think of it more as keeping us out of trouble and nothing else.

In old movies they use to make every thought you had as a bad evil one, and every one your inner ones as that of a good angel, and when I come to you and tell you that old Timmy can't do it all with your help, because my inner Angel believes this is possible. You try to disprove it with nothing but my grammar.

Please take a moment and relax.

this idea concept is out there, regardless how well you tried to comprehend it, and in the big picture of things.

It has nothing to do with me!

The idea concept stands on it's own.

I'm sorry, but that is just how it works out.

Let me try and break it down this way.

Once upon a time. A brainGate patient posed this question on there own.

Dear super nice staff of Cyberkinetics Nanotechnology. Would you please leave the machine on for a couple of hours after I die, so I can try and make it work after I die?

Would they say Yes. or would they say no because Tim Brewer does not have good grammar?

This idea concept is complete to the example above.

Regardless if I ever get any where with any one of you or not is not the issue.
Regardless if I ever type another useless post or not will not matter, because Murphy Law will place a patient at some time in and out of body state before they ever use that BrainGate machine, and they will think about the same as I think about, but they will be i a better position to try it based on their association with it.

Kids use to occupy their thoughts on long trips with an Etch-N-Sketch in the back seat of a car, as they might go on long trips, but now kids do the same with lap top computers connected to the Internet, and yes my idea will happen with or with out me. The only difference is the extra time it will take, and the price you will have to pay for that time.

Example:

How many lonely thoughts do you have every day?

Multiply that with for ever.

If you have forty thousand thoughts a day, and you spend most of your time always waiting for something, then that number could really add up.

What if you did finally get a chance to use this type of technology, but you let too much time past, and it don't happen until you are no longer here as a human.

Should of had a pin number, because all your credibility as the human you are right now is gone!

Maybe you might get lucky and still an afterlife identity pin number for a while.

Good luck with that.

Good luck with why you would want to shoot your self in the foot with not trying to have fun with this concept, and seeing how your angel inner thoughts feel about it.

Just remember if they continue to think no as you. That you just might be trying to alter their out come just like some try to do to mine.

Example:

I place a free example how we can do this, and some are more worried that they have to take their free time and read what I have to say, and then god for bid, if they have to support such a claim that will do nothing more than not effect them in the least if they choose to go that route, but it could help so many others who would like it to happen, and as much as we can read the writing on the wall that 50% of our culture do live an unhealthy life style, and they do want us to do the wrong direction that they are going, that all of this attacking me is probably normal.

I am sorry to some if you feel that you have nothing to live in the big picture, but you do.

I believe if I am given this chance at some point. That I will have more time to work on my grammar.

I try and make it a point not to criticize, complain or condemn anybody, because they always ave the ability to change.

I knew when I first started this topic. That some would like to resist just like some body pulling on a rope, and they would like nothing more that have me pull the rope the other direction, but potential afterlife do not have the ability to pull any rope. Even though they are connected to us through science string theory. they do not have the ability at this time to pull rope or speak for them self at this time.

I would imagine when the first person went to somebody and said that Helen Keller could get better. That person with out even thinking. Said something negative. That is normal, but just like anything else. We do get better in any given field it we focus on it.

I have given you a good place to start focusing

take away all my long post, and
I have given you a good place to start focusing

My idea is as easy as the doggy door.

We put it in place. Take away all my bad grammar and now we wait for the dog to come through the door.

Some might doubt that I have a dog, and decide to go do something else.

I have given you the best doggy door that is on the market right now, and I have given it to you for free.

Thank you for reading my invisible thoughts on such a clear blue day today here in the heartland of America.

Where everyday is a new reality, and we do have the ability to learn from our past mistakes, and we do have the ability to install this new doggy door.

Tim

My

Tim4848

16th July 2008, 12:36 AM

Blog everybody about this information

Thank you for reading my invisible thoughts.

The topic I am talking about covers everything that is good about America.

I believe it is time to Blog everybody about it.

What do you think?

Don't everybody have the right to decide for them self?

I report they decide everyday, because everyday is a new reality.

This topic covers everything they do from entertainment, sports, News, Presidential campaign of Obama and McCain, and what is the best direction to go to reduce flip flopping from any curtain party.

We all just try and do the best we can with what we have to work with, regardless what that is, or how much time we have to do that.

Science claims that energy can not be destroyed and my goal is to place a different type of door into this opportunity. One that measures friction of thought intention.

By focusing on this field of science. We are allowing our self the opportunity to have more options.

Negative or positive.

The goal for now is to get your mental wiring correct about how you should think about this possibility.

If any part of you is having negative thoughts about this possibility, then you have too much negative wire in play.

Everything to do with this topic is in the positive section of your inner thoughts.

If you decide to organize them in such a way where you can actually listen to them with out ego, negative drama, or anything else that actually only distracts the process, then you will have a better insight into this possibility.

I truly understand how some might be afraid to get their feet wet and would rather attack me, or my grammar, but this concept is out there and it is doable and it is free.

Anybody who has studied knows that their is reasonable doubt, that I just might be right, and regardless if we do find that we can study things like this, on nothing more than following through on a potential concept, and actually seeing it play out.

Side bar:
If you get a chance and read some of the past post.

What can you do?

That is up to you.

I will always be around, how about you?

Side bar:

The interest on your credit card would go down if they knew you could live for ever.

Would you like to enjoy the option of living better than you have ever have.

Have you ever had the chance to lay in an hamick under a palm tree in the Bahamas?

To go snorkeling, until you get so far from the shore that you start to think that you are a big Bologna sandwich or something.

Ignorance is expensive, and I will be the first one to tell you that, but it don't just goes toward me. We all makes mistakes and that is fine, because we really did not have any good instructions.

Everybody acts like they have the perfect plan, and depending on how well they come across depends on you.

I don't want to argue with somebody who I respect as a person about this topic, but I will if I have too.

Unless somebody can actually explain why it is not possible. I would have no other options than to support all afterlife energy.

I will not flip flop on that issue, unless new information comes fourth.

I will not flip flop on supporting the longest running free thing that has never been claimed in the history of our great nation.

Make a difference with everything this topic supports and make a positive vote for this possibility.

roseglass

16th July 2008, 10:36 AM

Trying to be a copy cat to my thoughts going a wrong direction is nothing more than a time bandit.

This thread really needs to get moved to humor.

http://www.h-online.nl/dvd-time-bandits-2.jpg

Cheers

Little 10 Toes

16th July 2008, 07:49 PM

Tim4848, why are you avoiding answering my direct question to you? Is it because you lie?

Tim4848

17th July 2008, 01:37 AM

Thank you for reading my invisible thoughts,

More than 80% of Americans believe that there is some type of afterlife.

If so many people might be right. Why do we not have a back up plan?

If so many are right, why do we not talk about it more?

Medium Lisa Williams claims she talks to them all the time.

They say that 10% of 6 billion people will have an out of body experience at some point in their life.

I was one of those 600 million people on average.

Thanks to a company by the name of Cyberkinetics out of Boston Mass.

I believe I know how we can communicate with potential out of body afterlife in a way that can be measured and done for free!

Are you still with me, or is this over your head?

I am trying to keep this concept as simple as possible for now.

Anyway this company uses a machine that can communicate with your any humans thoughts.

The name of the machine they use is called BrainGate.

Check anything I have said on the Internet, because you will find that it is all free.

I like to think I have your back in this field of science.

This idea concept has been on my bucket list for quite some time, and I would love it, if we would at least try it.

I have gone to so many different sites trying to find somebody who could shoot my concept out of the water, but they only help the cause.

I totally understand that you might have never given this type of topic the light of day, but others have, such as Thomas A. Edison.

He believed it was possible to communicate with the dead.

He also said he would never build anything, if he did not believe he could sell it.

I have figured out a way where we can do it for free.

Do you love to communicate to different people everyday now?

What if you did find your self in this type of situation as medium Lisa Williams explain it?

What is your back up plan just in case you discover what I have spoke about on so many different sites.

For some reason your only option right now would be. To try and figure out where Ghost Hunters are going and maybe they will see your inner energy in the form of a Orb.

Maybe your family can get people like medium Lisa Williams to interpret what you may or may not be saying.

Maybe you are willing to believe what people tell you through out your life, and that your story and you are sticking to it.

Please fill free to follow what ever option at that time you think you should do.

Please take the time and check out your options in this field.

I don't know about you, but I am not getting any younger.

I am getting older every second, and one of my older brothers is no longer alive.

Don't wait too long to consider this free safe back up plan, or at least get some body like Glenn Beck to interview me more about this possibility.

If you believe you might be one of those 80% of Americans that believe their is some type of Afterlife, then you don't want an opportunity like this drag out.

Trust me. If Glenn Beck can get you free Batman tickets, then he should have no trouble getting you a free pin numbers for my possibility.

Everything in life takes it's allotted amount of time, and this topic is no different.

You want to see afterlife?

Just step out side and look at a blue sky that is so vast with afterlife that it makes the sky a lighter blue.

The blue color you see is the vast connection of all afterlife.

Yes it can be measured.

Now if you are in space you will not see this same vast blue.

Even though I am home grown in inventor paradise in Dayton, Ohio.

I have not had any contact with any media person that I am aware of.

Now on the other hand. I have this great son of mine, who is driving all over America with NBC making this weather reality show.

Soon you will know more about my great son, but don't ever count on hearing from me.

Even though my idea concept has the potential to fix almost every major problem facing this country. You just might never hear more details about me.

Side Bar:

Now I have explain how you can measure afterlife out side. Now lets take it inside.

I have this special way of doodling that can show you the active afterlife.

Please take the time to research all the great men of our time and all the different type of doodling they did. They were close, but they just were not close enough.

How many C.S.I. shows do you have to watch before you realize that their is always something that can be measured.

Side Bar:

Did you know the head guy on the TV show for Vegas has had an out of body experience before.

Please take the time to check that out as well.

It could actually hurt an actors career to come out public with something like that. but he has and many others as well.

Please fill free to goggle that as well.

I could go on and on about so many directions with this topic, and believe me it even gets better.

Example:

If we try my idea concept and it works as I believe it can.

Your bills will actually go down, and this country we live in would actually be great again, but that is not all. There is so much more, but like I said earlier, you will probably never hear me in the media, because I am a true diamond in the rough.

Sure my son just graduated this year and his final paper about Tornadoes is getting great reviews because he has figured out a way to predict with in 50 miles of tornado's that science thought could never solved.

He was able to take his formula and lay it over past history of such Tornado's and show them time and time again that it works.

If his claim is correct. It could help save a lot of life in the future.

I am proud of all my kids and i only hope the best for them, as I hope the best for you as well.

I don't flip flop though on this topic.

My inner thoughts believe it is possible, and as many times as my inner thoughts have taken me out of pain and into pleasure through out the years. I am more than willing to let it ride on this one, especially since it is safe and free.

Side bar:

Science Saids that energy can not be destroyed. what do you think your inner sperm was way back when?

Science saids that energy can not be made.

Believe it or not but your inner thoughts live in energy.

Science is now looking at the Holy Grail of energy, and that lies in anti-matter.

Science saids that energy can change form, and last year science made the claim that your body is capable of creating an out of body experience.

Now you know they always go with that story that your body is playing tricks on you. You know the ones where your inner thoughts make you believe that there is water up a head while you are walking across a dessert.

now I understand some people have heard so many different out of body experiences that they are confused about the whole topic, but I can explain that too you as well, but I believe we first need to set up this free idea concept by letting somebody in power know that we just might have one.

Do you like to see banks close, or would you like to see my plan to open even more banks.

I honestly believe if we focus on my idea and it works.

I have a plan for it to turn out positive.

Do you want it to work, or would you like another country to do it first?

We have a choice to set the rules for the biggest big brother ever created, or we can just allow some other country to do it first.

Even though this machine is not for sell to people like Tom Cruise yet. I heard we already placed one in China. Go figure if that is the case.

I wonder what they could do with it.

Talk about home field advantage.

I have rambled on quite enough tonight, but I will say this.

I am not Thomas A. Edison, Indian Jones or the guy who played in both of the National Treasure movies.

I am home grown in the heart land of this Great America, and I believe I have forgotten more about this Homeland Security possibility than some will ever know.

Everything happens for a reason and this topic is no different.

What goes around comes around this topic is no different.

If you already feel your plan is better than this one. Please follow it, but if I am given the chance to interact with the patients of BrainGate, and they do decide to try my idea concept, and it does work.

Everybody has the opportunity to win.

Side Bar:

I am a lot like Glenn Beck. There is a lot of things that I don't understand as well. Like why build a level three wall around New Orleans when you know that their is level three hurricanes.

I have been told by some very important people this one thing.

"Either you know, or you don't know"

Now I hear the news say.

We inform, you decide.

That is great if they inform you about my idea concept, but they don't.

Please take the time and watch anything on the news and see if it holds a candle to my possibility.

My idea can stop wars, drug trafficking, Sex offenders, create a new market and all the taxes that the government will receive for making sure it runs right.

you will have the opportunity to take Pay pal or some other Internet banking with you.

Your My space pin could be your future contact in this field, so please take the time to make it the way you like.

Yes banks will see that you can live for ever and the first people who get in the door first will have a chance to find jobs that they like.

Yes you will have responsibilities in this different life.

Say you are grand ma, and you pick up a baby sitting job.

You watch the kids, and if they do something bad. You are free to go to a location where you can report that.

You decide that you want to help in the war. So you decide to to go in that building and see if any bad terrorist are in there first.

Did you ever wanted to have super powers. this could be for you.

Please checkout the old out dated BrainGate that came into the market in 2005, and start thinking about the best free safe back up plan out there.

Just remember when you are watching how they do BrainGate now. Will be nothing like the customer safe options you will get.

No we do not need to re-invent the wheel. Just how to use it better.

Everything I claim about this topic falls in the realm of everything science is already doing or they don't know yet.

I do not flip flop on this topic.

Side Bar:

I did not stutter.

We now have a chance to finish something that Thomas A. Edison never had the time to do, and we have a chance to do it right.

Side Bar:

Did you know that most people think when your heart stops beating, that your brain is cut of by air, and if you do come back from the dead. That your brain would be worst.

Science has shown that some kids at curtain ages. Actually come back from these types of experiences, and start to show Genius capabilities.

Did you know that Winston Churchill had an out of body experience and then started warning countries of Hitlers intension's long before he did them.

Even though he did have the insight in this. He never could get them to change what they were already doing.

I understand that this topic is long, and most people are more effective if they can keep it short, but there is just too much good stuff to talk about it.

Thank you for reading this post with your great invisible thoughts as well,

Tim Brewer

P.S.

If you do happen to find a media outlet like Glenn Beck to talk about it. Please let me know and I will be more than glad to explain to them how they could reach me.

Ignorance is expensive. If you don't believe me, just check out my grammar.

wollery

17th July 2008, 02:18 AM

If you do happen to find a media outlet like Glenn Beck to talk about it. Please let me know and I will be more than glad to explain to them how they could reach me.Why don't you search on the internet and email them yourself? :rolleyes:

That's precisely the sort of lack of action that's been pointed out to you before! :nope:

leonAzul

17th July 2008, 02:48 AM

If you do happen to find a media outlet like Glenn Beck to talk about it. Please let me know and I will be more than glad to explain to them how they could reach me.

Perhaps a call to George Noory (http://www.coasttocoastam.com/) would garner the attention you seek for your idea.

Nothing ventured, nothing gained.

If you don't play, you don't win, nor lose.

Most of all:

"Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm"--Ralph Waldo Emerson

Ignorance is expensive. If you don't believe me, just check out my grammar.

And talk is cheap…

Thank you for weeding my shards.

p

amb

17th July 2008, 03:02 AM

1162 posts. I can't believe it. Some guy [Tim] comes along with an out and out idea that belongs in a S/F thread and manages to stir so much interest.

Tim I take my hat off to you, only problem is, I don't wear a hat.:D

Oroborus

17th July 2008, 03:36 AM

Thank you for reading my invisible thoughts,

More than 80% of Americans believe that there is some type of afterlife.

If so many people might be right. ...SNIP...

Ignorance is expensive. snip.

And once people believed the stars were where hummingbirds poked holes in the sky. If ignorance is expsensive, you sir must cost a fortune ;D

1162 posts. I can't believe it. Some guy [Tim] comes along with an out and out idea that belongs in a S/F thread and manages to stir so much interest.

Tim I take my hat off to you, only problem is, I don't wear a hat.:D

Ambnp, I'm in agreement. It's kind of a morbid fascination on how such inane and ignorant comments draw all this brainpower like a moth to the flame.

amb

17th July 2008, 03:52 AM

I think it's the way we are hard wired, that's how most religious leaders manage to get their followers.
The more way out the ideas, the more people are in awe or dumbstruck, take your pick.

Alice Shortcake

17th July 2008, 06:04 AM

Little 10 Toes

17th July 2008, 07:32 AM

Tim4848, can you prove any of your claims? Why do you keep ignoring me? Why can't you answer my easy, basic questions? Is it because I bring up reality and shatter your fantasy?

I do not flip flop on this topic.

If you don't flip flop, why did you come back after you said that you wouldn't? Doesn't that make you a liar? Do you remember that?

Tim4848

17th July 2008, 09:20 PM

Why don't you search on the Internet and email them yourself? :rolleyes:

That's precisely the sort of lack of action that's been pointed out to you before! :nope:

Good question wollery,

I can not send an e-mail.

One day one of my other sons will come over and fix that, but it has not happened yet.

My chances of being heard correctly will only happen if people focus on the concept, and until they do that. It sounds interesting or crazy, and that is it.

If you know a sure fire way of me being able to get my foot in the door. Please feel free to inform me.

Example:

Dr. Kennedy. There is a man in the lobby that would like to talk to you about communicating with the dead. Should I let him come back and see you?

No, tell him I am busy cutting my nails for the rest of the day, and I can't be disturbed any more than that.

or,

Dr. Kennedy. Glenn Beck is on the phone and wants to know if you would like to be on his show and help him explain to Tim Brewer why his idea will not work. Would you like to take the call and be on National television in the future?

As long as they pay to have my nails done.

Thank you for reading my invisible imagination,

Tim

Little 10 Toes

17th July 2008, 09:51 PM

Remember Tim4848, your claim. You need to provide proof. Why aren't you answering my questions? What are you trying to hide? I will be glad to start listing the things that you haven't proven.

Tim4848

17th July 2008, 10:11 PM

Tim4848, can you prove any of your claims? Why do you keep ignoring me? Why can't you answer my easy, basic questions? Is it because I bring up reality and shatter your fantasy?

If you don't flip flop, why did you come back after you said that you wouldn't? Doesn't that make you a liar? Do you remember that?

I do not flip flop on the possibility of communicating with potential out of body after life people. I might change how we can get there, or I might throw a concept out there in a fields of science that might turn out to be wrong in the future, but not with this possibility.

I have has countless post claiming that this topic is bigger than me, but some would rather keep attacking me and then expect me to waist my time with them.

Sure I do not like to criticize, complain, or condemn them until they are no longer around, but with my topic. That could be a very long time.

I totally understand that some can not help the fact that they can not change in one day, and as long as they feel it works for them, then they will continue to do it, and as long as we allow that type of behavior to continue, then they will feel that it is alright.

If you have true thoughts with out ego. Please fill free to speak them.

Now what icon in your life do you copy for that comment?

There is no ego, icon, or anything else in your inner thoughts.

That is reality.

Will my inner thoughts flip flop on this issue of trying to inform people about communicating with (potential) out of body afterlife.

Lets just say, that I am always the one who adds in the (potential) part.

Thank you for reading my invisible thoughts on strike one.

I thank you for cleaning it up a bit, but you still have a long way to go.

Please take the time to read your post back to your self and ask these questions.

Is there any negative in my post and do I want to have the ability to ask Tim more questions in the future or not.

I really don't have any problem just seeing how many people took the time to view this topic.

Like it or not, we are in the positive side of this topic, and everything is really looking pretty good here, regardless where here is.

We have the machine

We have the patients

And just because I have had a different experience than you, and expect higher options than you, but offering them to you as well. Is not a bad thing in my thoughts.

Please fill free to jump in front of me for anything in life that you want.

Call me stupid, call me what ever you like any time you like, but continue to do it under this topic, then don't complain when I don't answer any question you ask.

They keep on knocking but they can't come in.

Am I the fool on the hill?

No one seams to know me, they say I am just a fool.

Know one seams to like the fool on the hill.

Just for following this topic as long as you have.

I am giving you the opportunity to go do what ever you really want to do.

Now if all the people that view this topic like you, then i should see the views go down, but I don't.

Please fill free to address your problems to the viewers, and not me.

I once heard that 80% of people don't care about your problems, and the other 20% are glad you have them.

Maybe people come to this topic because they know that my grammar is bad, and they enjoy reading it.

Please fill free to ask them.

Maybe they will listen to you and come forward.

Maybe you can come up for a reason that it is wrong for them to listen to me.

Please fill free and see if you can control them as you feel you could control me.

Please take a moment and think about what I am about to say.

I will not flip flop on this idea concept until science claims it can not happen and they can explain how they came up with that answer.

If this is your exit. It was nice to get to interact with you, and thank you for your time.

If I had more time. I would probably be more patient but I do not.

I just started managing a different fast food place, and I am working longer days and only taking off one day a week.

I did not want to be in that type of situation where I had less time for this topic, but that is how it must play out right now.

The location I am running has never made money, and one of my goals right now is to change that.

If I can build the sales up to a point where I can afford to have two days off, I will, but that will take some time.

Time, time, time, everything takes it's allotted amount of time.

Please think before you waste mine.

Thank you for reading my personal thoughts, and internal thoughts,
Tim

Tim4848

17th July 2008, 10:29 PM

Tim, I honestly don't know how you manage to maintain relationships, hold down a job and generally function in everyday life. You appear to be suffering from a serious mental illness and should be seeking professional help, not posting reams of gibberish on this forum. What does your family think about your obsession with BrainGate?

They support me, and they don't understand why you have such a hard time understanding it as well.

"You appear to be suffering from a serious mental illness"

Why did you not list what this mental illness is?

The mental illness of trying to make your Russian roulette Afterlife possibilities better than you are capable of understanding.

What do you do if your nose goes on strike?

Pick it.

Here is your strike sign as well.

I believe all of you have the ability to ask god questions, but you just refuse to take the negative out of what you are saying.

Are you upset that I am about the only person who seams to bring anything to this topic, so why not just attack the messenger.

Please fill free to do that at the topic called "The Department of Negative out of Body possibility"

The topic is still there, and you are free to be as negative there as you like.

Please fill free and see how many viewers besides me. Would love to go see what you post there.

Why don't you take the time and explain to the viewers of this topic what your game plan is.

My relationship with my family right now is just fine.

I feel good,

like a dreamer should.

I feel good, just like you could.

I feel good, I feel good, cause I am helping you!

wollery

18th July 2008, 12:46 AM

Good question wollery,

I can not send an e-mail.

One day one of my other sons will come over and fix that, but it has not happened yet.If you can post here you can use an online email account, such as hotmail, gmail, yahoo mail, or any other number of services.

Get you finger out and do something. :nope:

leonAzul

18th July 2008, 05:57 AM

Tim4848

20th July 2008, 12:00 AM

If you can post here you can use an online email account, such as hotmail, gmail, yahoo mail, or any other number of services.

Get you finger out and do something. :nope:

Thank you wollery,

Who would of figured that you might have made the biggest contribution to this positive possibility so far.

Who is next?

What could you do to help all of man kind as wollery has?

My invisible thoughts had over looked this possibility, but thanks to wollery solution things can start to happen quicker.

It is amazing all the things people can do when they focus on a problem.

If for some wild chance I do get to Washington to help. I sure would like the chance for wollery to join me. Now that does depend if he can clear the secret service.

I am only as good with what I have to work with, and most of the time. That person just might be you.

Think of me as fallen, and I need your help to get up.

Please fill free to give me some e-mails to contact, and If I feel they are good one. I will tell you what they said good or bad.

Please take the time to list some, as I set up this new e-mail, and I will be back.

I would also like to thank all the people who find the time to read this topic,

:boxedin:Tim:boxedin:

Tim4848

20th July 2008, 12:24 AM

I note well that you have not responded to my message Link (http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p=3868182&postcount=1162)

Allow me to clarify:

:rule10 (defecate) or get off the pot!

Thank you for threading my taughts.

:duck:

Do you see the difference in this post and wolleries?

Here is your sign. a mirror of you all alone trying to explain why you are actually waisting the group time. Please wollery show these people to The Department of Negative out of Body Possibilities.

Crossing a line that can give you a better time. Out weighs any negative whining.

This opportunity is like waiting for the ring to go off, on the last day of school.

The sooner you are ready to head for new opportunities the better.

Don't waste your time complaining.

We are beyond that.

It is time to send wollery a celebration picture cake for all he has done to help this topic, and join me in ignoring time bandit remarks.

I am not saying that you can not disagree with my concept, but if you have remarks, questions, or concerns. Please find a positive way to post it here, or just try your luck in The Department of Negative Out of Body Possibilities. Every once in a while i will answer questions there as well. I grant you it has been a long time, but just like measuring afterlife in the future.

You have to have guidelines.

It has to be a good deal for all parties concerned.

I will be back.

One way or another, how about you?

Thanks to wollery working both sides of the line. My inner energy is floating high in my invisible thoughts tonight.

I can't remember if I have ever given him a strike before, but if I have. They have been removed.

History will show that wollery wound up playing a key role in this possibility, and he will not be the only one.

The next person to get such honors will be the one who provides an email or thread that finds an interest in this possibility and helps to get it even closer to reality.

Tim

Tim4848

20th July 2008, 01:09 AM

Thank you for reading my thoughts,

According to this thread. My idea falls right in line with what this country needs to make life better.

Maybe I am wrong. What do you think?

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://bp0.blogger.com/_KkX-1KLIOVE/Rs8O3Sae5pI/AAAAAAAAATM/CWZhxWQb5kw/s400/_44075887_outofbodysplcred.jpg&imgrefurl=http://awakentopeaceandlove.blogspot.com/&h=152&w=203&sz=4&hl=en&start=117&sig2=6zVlinNn9KHqw2QzsIbpxQ&um=1&tbnid=TF9ui6hfxxxMlM:&tbnh=79&tbnw=105&ei=JdyCSOraEpaypgS3ja3MCQ&prev=/images%3Fq%3DThe%2BDepartment%2Bof%2BPositive%2BOu t%2Bof%2BBody%2BPossibilities%26start%3D100%26ndsp %3D20%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26rlz%3D1G1GGLQ_ENUS258%2 6sa%3DN

Tim4848

20th July 2008, 01:19 AM

Thank you for reading my invisible thoughts,

I guess the link I provided, took me up on my invisible thoughts, and went north from where I was at on this thread.

If I come across the correct location of the thread I wanted you to see. I will re-post it.

How are you coming on finding me some better emails and threads as well?

Maybe yours will make a difference. as mine did not.

leonAzul

20th July 2008, 10:01 AM

Do you see the difference in this post and wolleries?

Here is your sign. a mirror of you all alone trying to explain why you are actually waisting the group time. Please wollery show these people to The Department of Negative out of Body Possibilities.

I am not he who is "whining his waist" ;)

Do I really need to source this?

A little bird was flying south for the winter. It was so cold the bird froze and fell to the ground in a large field.

While it was lying there, a cow came by and dropped some dung on it. As the frozen bird lay there in the pile of cow dung, it began to realize how warm it was.

The dung was actually thawing him out! He lay there all warm and happy, and soon began to sing for joy.

A passing cat heard the bird singing and came to investigate. Following the sound, the cat discovered the bird under the pile of cow dung, and promptly dug him out and ate him.

Moral of the story:

1. Not everyone who :rule10s on you is your enemy.
2. Not everyone who gets you out of :rule10 is your friend.
3. And, when you’re in deep :rule10 , it’s best to keep your mouth shut!

So whuchya gonna do? Continue to whine about how there is no one who helps you? Or are you going to invest the time and effort to research the evidence that leads you to your conclusion?

Now. There is no other time.

Peace,

p

Tim4848

20th July 2008, 11:20 PM

Thank you for reading my thoughts,

I now have a new email address thanks to wollery!

Am I allowed to post it under this topic here?
:confused:

Tim4848

21st July 2008, 01:49 AM

I am not he who is "whining his waist" ;)

Do I really need to source this?

So whuchya gonna do? Continue to whine about how there is no one who helps you? Or are you going to invest the time and effort to research the evidence that leads you to your conclusion?

Now. There is no other time.

Peace,

p

What is there to research?

The plan is solid regardless if I am under a pile of anything or not.

I will take the time to address curtain people with emails from time to time and see if they would be interested, or if they are just willing to turn me over to their cat.

Everything takes it's allotted amount of time, and this topic is no different.

Please fill free to list any emails that you feel might be able to help speed up this process.

My goal is to place a cat or doggy door in theory anyway. Out into open space, and then give everybody in that situation, the opportunity to take advantage of it.

Please take the time to answer this?

Have you ever got lost, or needed some help to fix a problem?

That is why I like to talk more about the policies and procedures for setting this concept up.

I have no doubt that Murphy Law will help make this door work from the other side.

My inner thoughts believes that this concept could actually work better in this type of state, than a actual human state anyway, and it is basing that on the advantages of being trained on what to do every step of the way, and having the tools to try it as well.

Please take the time to think about this:

You can't win if you don't play!

You can't win, if you don't have anybody focused on the possibility.

Now would you like me to research and see if our Government is already doing this and doing it correctly?

I already believe that they are not. If they were, and doing it for quite some time, then we should of not lost one single life in Iraq, or any place else.

Would you like me to research what science knows?

They would be the first to tell you that they can not say one way or the other at this time in your life.

Was there ever something you wanted, but nobody seamed to know where you could go to get it?

That is the Truman world we are dealing with on this topic.
.
I offer an opportunity to explore this follow through, and all I ask is the chance to offer it to even more people.

Lets just say I go straight to Boston Mass., and they allow me to try my idea with out letting you know anything about it.

Would you really want it to play out that way?

It is just as much your back up plan option as it is theirs or mine.

Who gives them the right to own your soul that way. i have no problem if they do it for a short time, as they figure out how it can help the Government, but at some point they need to turn it over to the private sector.

Please take a moment to stretch and just say to your self.

Why not

Why not, what is it going to hurt?

You deserve it.

don't fall for others assumes that are not going any where, when you can apply this option.

Please take the time to take ownership into this possibility, and don't settle for anything less.

Please take a moment to review your options on this topic. Now that you are looking a it different.

If it don't work. We tried a different concept and we did it for free!

If it does work. We tried a different concept and we did it for free!

Go figure, it must be a value thing or something. Maybe people have a hard time supporting it, because they are just use to paying out of something, so if something that has the potential to make such an impact is free. It must be cheep or something.

Think about it anyway you like, but it is still free!

Is there a time line on how soon we need to make this happen?

With 250,000 people on this Earth dying everyday on average. I would think it would be in your best interest to do it as soon as possible.

Like it or not, but my idea concept is new information that has not had it's correct chance to show you what it is capable of, and as long as we sit by and debate it. We are actually shooting our self in the foot.

I can say that based on the fact that we don't have the pin option in place yet, and that does hurt humans who did not take the time to include this option in their life.

What would it hurt to include this option in your life?

What option do you need about this topic.

How can we set up a pin number for you, and where can you find out more about this option, just in case you find your self in this situation.

I would think that you would like to go on a field trip to Cyberkinetics in Boston Mass. now, just so you have better odds at a later date.

Is it a field of dreams?

No, it is a field of space that can be measured by BrainGate in friction.

I really do need to get more sleep for work.

Tim

Tim4848

21st July 2008, 02:57 AM

I got a private email from another person on this site and I will confirm that person if they want me too, but only if they want me too.

They gave me this link to try,

CoastProducer@aol.com
Thank you for reading my invisible thoughts,

I just sent CoastProducer@aol.com an email about this topic.

Tim4848

21st July 2008, 03:04 AM

Would anybody like to offer a good email to send out about this topic.

One that might help to get this topic out to more people.

Thank you,
Tim

Akhenaten

21st July 2008, 03:17 AM

Would anybody like to offer a good email to send out about this topic.

One that might help to get this topic out to more people.

Thank you,
Tim

From what I can make of the topic, this might be a starting point:

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080703165308AAscUgj

leonAzul

21st July 2008, 05:28 PM

What is there to research?

Everything that can make your idea effective.

The plan is solid regardless if I am under a pile of anything or not.

If that is so, then why has it not been implemented? What are the barriers to achievement of your idea?

Tim4848

21st July 2008, 10:07 PM

Everything that can make your idea effective.

If that is so, then why has it not been implemented? What are the barriers to achievement of your idea?

Good questions leonAzul,

The research for the most part has already been done through their own research, and anything I do will only compliment that.
We really don't have to re-invent the wheel, but tweak it a bit from time to time.

I have always felt that it was very important for different people to interact on this possibility, regardless how they felt, and in the big picture concept of right direction, wrong direction. I believe it has helped me to time to make this topic stronger.

Thanks to people like wollery and other people who have given me some emails to follow through on. I do believe you will see more action on my part to make this idea concept happen faster.

Will you see it on the news anytime soon?

Probably not, but that will not be because of anything I am doing.

I will continue from time to time to take it to different web sites, but that will only get you so far a well. I have no doubt that one day it will be talked about on shows like Coast to Coast, and for something like that to work. It will need the support of others to request that from them.

The media will only follow through on this possibility if they feel it provides a need, or it helps them in their ratings.

so the bottom line is this. If you get frustrated from time to time because you are not being informed by them for this topic. Let them know and the rest will take care of it self.

Now I have sent an email to Cyberkinetics, but I can not make them reply back to me if they don't want too.

One of my underlining goals has always been not to hurt this topic, but to help keep the door of communication open for others that might want to follow through on this long after I am gone.

Sure I open the door by posing the question, and then questioning everything a long the way, but that is what this topic needed at that time.

Was I the perfect person for making it happen at this time?

In some ways, but not all.

I might be good at analyzing a problem and finding a good solution to over come it, but I do lack in the credibility department of this science.

That is why I always allow others just as much opportunity to try it them self if they like.

If you feel you could do better because you do have the credentials to move way i side the door on this possibility, and you would like the chance to do that.

All I can say is go for it, and if you would like my insight on problems you might come across. I will be more than glad to help you solve them if i can.

Thank you once again for your good questions,

Tim

Little 10 Toes

21st July 2008, 10:28 PM

Tim4848

21st July 2008, 11:16 PM

From what I can make of the topic, this might be a starting point:

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080703165308AAscUgj

Good job Akhenaten;3879324,

I went there and asked some questions. Maybe we can get some answerers there.

Please fill to check it out and ask some questions as well.

Thank you for that option, and please keep sending in more good ones like this one,

Tim

Tim4848

21st July 2008, 11:29 PM

Tim4848, if you don't want to reinvent the wheel, why are you using a machine that is to be connected to a living brain to have the dead (who have no brain) use it? Also, I did ask what exact modifications need to be made, and you didn't answer it. Why?

Good question Little 10 Toes,

I am keeping it as close to the original wheel to save money, and just like everything else. Once that wheel gets rolling. We can always add different bicycle attachments.

The only major change I see to this wheel of opportunity?

Is adding different external customer friendly sensor attachments.

I also have a plan for making them free as well.

Tim4848

22nd July 2008, 01:04 AM

Thank you for reading my thoughts,

Would you like to do something that could help to make this communication experiment happen quicker.

Select me as a hero for trying to stop future wars, helping our economy, lower crime, helping with the number of abortions, the number of pre-teen pregnancies, controlling the traffic of drugs. Stopping, or lowering all pointless sex crimes. Improving our ability to operate this country with out oil, coal, and gas.

Improving the quality of the things you purchase everyday.

Lowering almost every major problem this country has.

You are not turning me in to this media for being able to do it, but the fact that I am willing not to flip flop on this issue, and try my hardest to help make it a true reality.

I could list even more advantages of what my idea can help to do for you, but this is your chance to decide that.

Maybe you feel I am a big fake and all of this is one big joke!

Only you can answer that, but the last I heard the dead line for turning somebody in, has already passed anyway.

Just something to think about,

The Big Question:

Is he a hero for trying, or is he just a fool for not giving up?

You decide

Tim

http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2008/cnn.heroes/

amb

22nd July 2008, 03:47 AM

From what I can make of the topic, this might be a starting point:

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080703165308AAscUgj
I told him just that 1843 posts ago.

John Freestone

22nd July 2008, 11:06 AM

They say that ten percent of people will have an OBE at some point in their lifetime.The British Empire just isn't what it used to be. :p

Tim4848

22nd July 2008, 11:05 PM

I told him just that 1843 posts ago.

I'm sorry ambnp;388197,

After all that wollery did to help this topic so quickly. I got lost in the moment!

I keep telling people that there is a wealth of information in past post here, and I have no doubt that history will make this adjustments.

I still believe the best is yet to come.

The more I connect the dots about this topic in my own mind i see it all the time, but just like everything else. It all takes it's allotted amount of time.

If space was just space. I would not believe in this possibility, but that is not the case.

We have not even scratched the surface to everything that has to do with the dots that make up this paradigm possibility.

I do believe history will show that if I did explain it this way or that way, just maybe we could already be starting the experiment already, or maybe if one of you had helped your self by helping to draw more attention to this possibility, it could of happened sooner, and I don't haver a problem with that, because nobody should have to endure everybody venting about something that they were probably right on at one point in history, and they are just having a hard time making the transition.

Thank you for your input, and I hope you continue to help along the way.

Tim

amb

23rd July 2008, 01:12 AM

The British Empire just isn't what it used to be. :p What's a OBE when a rock star is granted one.

It used to be for service to mankind and Empire.
What has a rock star contributed to be knighted.?

Little 10 Toes

23rd July 2008, 10:05 PM

Hey Tim4848, did you ever apologize to wollery for insinuating that he was a spy?

Capt.Nemo

23rd July 2008, 10:19 PM

Tim, you have probably noticed that you're target for some ridicule here. There may be a reason for that. There are a lot of rather intelligent people on this board, but they, like most people, have a limited amount of patience.

I gather that you want help - input, research and actions regarding your paradigm shifting concept idea. There are people here who can provide you with this. I have seen them design testing protocols for just about every imaginable para-ability out there. You just have to reach them.

Rambling, barely coherent endless repetition of a few sentences, sometimes re-worded, will not achieve that. If, however, you listen to, take time to understand a question and then answer it in a coherent manner, people here can get things figured out.

You seem to like examples, so here's one:
The mail you sent to Cyberkinetics could have gone through this board first. You could request help in cleaning it up and making it presentable. I'm sure you would have received a lot of enthusiastic replies and re-writes. Help and action, right?

What say you, Tim, can you do this? Do you want to do this?

Best of luck to you

Tim4848

26th July 2008, 08:49 PM

Hey Tim4848, did you ever apologize to wollery for insinuating that he was a spy?

He told me he was from China.

Now he is in another country.

I don't know if he is or if he is not at this time.

That is for others to investigate, not me.

I am just glad that he helped my with my e-mail, so I could send out e-mails.

People can tell you anything on the Internet, just like in real life, and then you have to decide for your self, what walls in your own thoughts that you are willing to bring down for them.

Example:

I do not flip flop on the main core of my idea, and I am always offering it for free!

I don't think people truly understand how this idea of mine might play out.

Even if you have a pin number for this possibility. They will still judge you by who you were as you were a human. this will be natural, because we always like to measure people.

Tim4848

26th July 2008, 09:16 PM

Little 10 Toes

27th July 2008, 11:28 AM

{snip}
Example of something that I have noticed. Now I am not saying that there is an conspiracy going on here or something, but Wollerey spoke of living in China, and just the other day. I had heard that people in China are restricted from getting on the world wide web, by some way that they have of controlling their Internet. Now if this is true, and I had the time to interact on my topic should tell you something.

{snip}

Please fill free to search back on this thread or the Department of Negative Out of Body Possibilities and find where he said it, because he has been watching this topic from a far for quite some times and I would have no doubt that he changes names t be a part of this topic.

He is here because there is something in it for him, or somebody else in his country.

If they are real good at it, they can get me to ramble on and on trying to prove my point, as all that time they are digging through it, to use in their goals toward trying to make this possibility a reality.

They already have more people, and why take advantage of it in the afterlife as well, where they would have an upper hand in this research and change the rules to the life that we have had.

Can China find an afterlife finder by using my concept?

Why not, anything is possible if you are focused on it.

{snip}

as [sic] I was saying, I do not know if he is a spy, but he did say he was from China, ans supposedly people in China are restricted to where they can go on the Web, and even if you get past all that, why waste your time at my site?

{snip}

And find out why we have a BrainGate in China anyway.

Call Nancy Grace and get to the bottom of it.

I don't make this stuff up, he went that way.

Dear Wollery and who ever gave the permission to put BrainGate in China. I hope you have good answers, and sure you can get away and change your name on the Internet, only goes to show you that people are taking notice of this possibility, and they are not even our people.

{snip}

The internet in China is blocked by a firewall, it's a fairly simple piece of technology. Most of what's blocked is porn, and a few websites that are critical of the Chinese government. They also block some blog sites. However, it's pretty easy to get around, and there is plenty of free software that lets you do it.

{snip}

Okay, for the record, I'm British, speak very little Chinese, have no involvement in any research that's anywhere near the field you're talking about, and frankly don't care. I'm a research astronomer. You can do a search in the forums on my name, I've given out more than enough info for anyone coming to these forums to find out who I am and what I do, and a lot of forumites have met me in real life.

If I'm a Chinese spy then my cover is absolutely brilliant!

He told me he was from China.

Now he is in another country.

I don't know if he is or if he is not at this time.

That is for others to investigate, not me.

{snip}

Tim4848, here are most of the "chinese spy" posts. Please point out where "he is in another country". Please learn to get your facts straight. Please learn to do your own work.

Little 10 Toes

27th July 2008, 11:31 AM

Dear Capt.Nemo,

I have no problem doing that, if it works like you say it can.

I can do my thought dumps at other sites for now if you would like?

What questions would you like to know to speed up this experiment?

I'll another repetative question that you haven't answered, what exact modifications do you claim will be needed to make a BrainGate work with someone who is a)dead and b)has no brain?

Tim4848

27th July 2008, 03:05 PM

Tim4848, here are most of the "chinese spy" posts. Please point out where "he is in another country". Please learn to get your facts straight. Please learn to do your own work.

That is not all of it. Go back to the beginning where he spoke of being in China.

Just so we are on the same page. What country is wollery in now?

Little 10 Toes

27th July 2008, 07:47 PM

I assume wollery is in China. I also assume that he is British. Just like I assume you're a fast food manager living in Ohio.

Searching this thread for the word "China" comes up with (currently) 14 posts. First one is you saying China has a BrainGate. Second is me asking for proof that China has a BrainGate, which you still haven't provided proof for. Third message is you asking if wollery is living in China. You did not ask if he was Chinese, you only asked if he lived in China. Searching for "chinese", I get four messages (currently) that has wollery responding to your inquires about China.

So, once again, why don't you apologize to wollery for insinuating that he was a spy?

Hokulele

27th July 2008, 08:27 PM

I do not flip flop on the main core of my idea, and I am always offering it for free!

Liar.

To whom it may concern,

Our Government plans on spending $70 billion dollars next year alone on Research & Development.

http://www.warresisters.org/piechart.htm (http://www.warresisters.org/piechart.htm)

Just think if we could get the Government to focus a little bit of money on this topic.

80% of Americans believe in some type of afterlife, but what type of Research & Development are they doing in that field next year?

It's our duty to keep them focused on this topic as well, it should always be at the top of an "A" list. I am not saying that they should spend a lot of money on it, but they should at least stay focused on it, as other technologies advance toward such a possibility.

Just one tax payer to another.

What type of research do you feel is more important than this one?

Thank you,
Tim

Tim4848

27th July 2008, 10:26 PM

Liar.

What they were planning to spend and what they are doing now might be different.

If this was a real issue, Why did you not bring it up way back when I first posted it?

Is that the best you have?

Now if you did bring it up back when I first did post it, and I was wrong on what numbers or context it was applying too, then i made a mistake.

Does it have any bearing on the core of this topic?

No!

i have tried your idea of being boring. so we can move this topic forward in your eyes, but you still have nothing to provide.

Why do you waste your thoughts on me?

Think about the idea concept.

Take a good look at it.

What part of the idea concept do you see a problem with?

We need no funding

They are already training on it while we speak, so we don't have to do anything there yet.

The only place were we are making a mistake is mot giving more people the opportunity to know more about it.

To save time on this topic. I will try and not talk about me as much.

I will try and just keep my thoughts to the concept.

If you want to know more about Tim the liar, and less about the machine. Check me out on a different site about this topic.

My goal has always been to try and inform people about this idea concept, and then they can decide if they want to do it or not.

No flip flop there.

Would you like to try it, or would you rather waste more time focusing on me?

I have no doubt that you could find a lot of mistakes that I have made as I tried and get better at posting my internal thoughts, and sure there are some days where my thoughts were going a mile a minute and I did not know how to paste myself with it at that time, but sometimes I feel that some of this information is so good. That I try my hardest to post it, before I forget it.

I knew going into this topic, that I sucked with grammar, and that this would be a lot harder, just because of that, but then I began comparing myself to others, like the Rain Man, who needs his dad to dress him everyday, or people like Steven Hawkins, who needs extra help to get his message out.

I am sorry that life don't give you the option all the times to do retakes, and almost everything you do is a one thought thing, so if you are looking for perfection in me, while I try and find a way to make this happen, then you are truly more out of alignment that you could ever think I am.

Please take your head out of the sand and get up to speed with where this topic is now.

It is now 2008. three years after BrainGate became public. We are no closer now to making this happen, than when I first talked about it, way back when.

Is it because it will not work? No!

Is it because we have been focused on it? No!

What year will it be?

What year would you want to try it?

As long as they are doing research with BrainGate patients. We could try it any year.

Cross training BrainGate patients to do this is really quite easy.

Please take the time to think about what I am saying.

The idea concept is ready, are you?

Giggywig

27th July 2008, 10:36 PM

Tim, stop being so patronizing. The problem here in not that we are not ready for your idea. The problem is that the idea is ill conceived gibberish. Braingate does not work as you think it does, it does not measure what you think it does, and you have no evidence that there is something there to measure from dead people.

Hokulele

27th July 2008, 11:06 PM

I did bring it up back then, and you addressed the issue by avoiding it.

Yes. You are trying to divert government funding away from very important research, such as cancer and AIDS, towards a fantasy supported by no one other than yourself. That is extremely painful.

Is it really the money issue that concerns you?

In addition, you specifically stated you wished to sell this system.

Thomas Edison believed it was possible, but he would not build anything unless he could sell it. My goal is to sell it, because most people think th worst, so it is only natural hat they would see potential negative in my topic, but if they take the time to explore it, they will surely find, this is the right direction to go at this point in our history.

Thank you for listening to my thoughts,
Tim

So yes, now claiming that you "always am offering it for free" is a lie.

Tim4848

28th July 2008, 12:48 AM

I did bring it up back then, and you addressed the issue by avoiding it.

In addition, you specifically stated you wished to sell this system.

So yes, now claiming that you "always am offering it for free" is a lie.

To sell it like to inform it,

What is the difference?

Please fill free to explain how I have been selling it any other way than just informing about it.

If I was into that type of power you would know it.

I don't have the resources to ever think I could sell anything like this.

Now once the idea happens. I have no doubt that the private sector will sell it in some way, because people will want to use it more.

It is just like the cell phone. All 911 calls are free, but if you just want to talk, to be talking, then you will be helping our economy in one way or another.

I tell you now that my goal is not to flip flop on this free idea possibility, and the best you can do is go back in time and find things that evolved with what I am telling you now.

Please feel free to go back and show how I was planning to make money from this possibility for my self?

If my chance you could find something, just make sure you keep it in context with what I was saying at that time.

Example:

After I am in this potential possibility. I might as well want to have the opportunity to look for a job like anybody else, and if that option is there at that time. I guess in a round about way. I did benefit from this option. I would like to think it was because I worked for it, but others will always think I got it, because of some other reason.

Once again you are off of topic.

you are picking this or that from thoughts that I have had, and try and make them into fact, when this topic has always been a concept just waiting for the chance to happen.

Please fill Free to watch me while i am putting this concept into action, and if you ever see me trying to sell an Out of Body Afterlife T-shirt out of the trunk of my car or something, then you might have something, but right now you are so far off of base with your time bandit stuff, that it makes me wonder what your true agenda here is.

Please take the time to read about different agenda's here:

I want us to try my free idea concept

You want to make me look bad

I want us to try my free idea concept

You want to make me look bad

I offer a way how you can do my idea with out me

You want to make me look bad

Here is your sign. because you are clearly wasting time.

Strike

Hokulele

28th July 2008, 01:26 AM

To sell it like to inform it,

What is the difference?

Please fill free to explain how I have been selling it any other way than just informing about it.

Odd, quite a bit of your early posts were all about money, not about informing. Rather like this one.

If five percent of people who have level five OBE's, decide to search more about this experiences on the internet, and at least three percent of them come across my topic, and at least one percent of them are in a position to make it possible, either through private money, or Government money, then this possibility could happen regardless of explaining anything more about it at this time.

In other words, I do not have to prove anything, I just have to have this thought in a position to be seen by others, who can make it happen by either their wealth, media presents, or ability to make it happen. So what we really should be doing is finding those people now that can do this and start to wait for them to have this experience, so they can make it happen.

<snip>

I forget what type of substance they discovered we were, I don't remember if they said we were a special type of static electricity, the kind that can move around in between waves, or that we were some type of micro, but in any case, they found us. Thanks to people like Jane Doe, who provides extra money for people like me to get access to talk to people like you.

amb

28th July 2008, 03:13 AM

In the last 20-30 years or more, much research has gone into this subject without producing a single shred of evidence for the survival of death.

People hooked up to scanners, electrical sensing machines and what ever, have proved if anything that at the moment of death, all the machines flat line, that shows that brain activity has ceased and thereby consciousness has died along with the brain.

To think that all that science could be wrong is wishful thinking.

Tim4848

28th July 2008, 06:24 PM

Thank you for reading my invisible thoughts,

Yes, early on into this topic I did look at things differently. I just wanted us to hurry up and do it. I had no problem if they wanted to do it. I had no problem with them buying their own machine, or the staff to run it. I just wanted somebody to do it, because I felt if somebody did it, regardless who that person was. the news would get out, and then everybody would have a chance to try it. At no time did I feel they were going to pay me for anything.

Early on in this topic. I did not have a way where it could be done for free!

I would imagine you are not flip flopping on something, when you declare it for the first time.

Example:

I say that I am going to run in a race. i have made my decision, and I am not going to flip flop about it. Now if he does run in the race and he goes on to run in even more races. then is he flip flopping, because before he declared it. He never finished a race.

I would think you would have to give him credit for knowing when he should declare it.

This topic has evolved many times over, and I can base that on how I like to look at it from so many different paradigms, and then when you throw in my mind dumping, and all the things that has come out of that.

the other insert you put in there is a make believe afterlife talking about having to pay for the opportunity to interact through BrainGate.

I have already said before that the private sector will be providing that possibility.

I would like to think that this new opportunity will allow first time callers in this technology, the opportunity to explained on the service more, just like you would do with any new customer, but just like the cell phone companies don't charge for 911 calls, They will not either.

As I have spoke before.

I am providing a free idea concept. I will be providing my time to train the BrainGate patients for free. That is if they elect me to do that.

If for some reason I am offered a lot of money in the future, as a result of something to do with this topic, and the experiment has not been tried yet.

I would have to think about the offer, and if it would help in any way to promote this cause even further, and would it allow me additional tools for this possibility, that I might now be able to provided as a result of this. To make this long claim short,

If I do receive money unexpectedly, as a result of this topic before it is completed. It will go back into the topic. In tools like more advertising to get the word out, or allowing me more time to work with the patients of BrainGate or something.

I left an $80,000.00 dollar a year job to focus on this bucket list, and I far exceed anybody in this field when it comes to sacrificing other things to make this a reality.

I am not into money. I have never done a bill in my entire life. I understand bills, and I do no the difference between growing and controlling.

I was willing to change my standard of living for this possibility, and yes my family has to go with out of a lot of the finer things as a result of that.

They support my effort in this field because they get it.

I offer an idea concept that can be done for free.

i have no plans in finding any way that can help me have more time to focus on this topic right now. I know in the past I have asked for that opportunity, but that was just to save time, and give me an assistant, who could type for me, and do it in a way that you could Read it better, but you all seam to be doing just fine with me these days.

At the beginning of this possibility. I knew I wanted to work my mental thoughts toward evolving this possibility one way or another, but i was learning new things everyday, and as the topic grew. So did the evolution of it as well.

I was able to figure out a way where we could do this idea concept for free.

Am i now being paid off by anybody to make you think this is free. but it will cost you money right out of your pocket? No!

Back when you or somebody post that you did not want to spend any Government money toward this possibility. i have always tried to satisfy that request as well, and I was able to do that by cross training these possible patients.

Now i believe when the time comes to extend BrainGate use after the patient death, will be funded by the private sector, as a sign of good will to all parties involved.

Now the other problem you have when you go back and grab section of anything on any of my post, and that is if I was thinking from my right brain. You do not have to read for long any of my post, to See that I do like to talk about things that is in our imagination, and any of the post you used. Could of been that type.

That is one reason I always like to add the part about my thoughts.

they say that everyday is a new reality, and so may be my thoughts as well, but I get to decide what part of my thoughts I will be focusing on.

Since this topic has so many possibilities an options, or depending on who I am relating too, and what they get or don't get, or just the fact that i want to do a mind dump.

I still do not see where I am flip flopping on the way we can do my idea concept for free.

I have said time, and time again, that this idea concept can be tried by anybody who would like to try it.

I have said that I am an Introvert, and if you don't want me to have anything to do with it, when we finally get around to doing it, then I will get out of the way at that time.

I once was delivering a pizza, and I saw flames bust through the glass of a window on this one duplex house.

I stopped my car, and ran and kicked down the front door of both of these homes. The smoke was just rolling out the front doors and I yelled inside, but I could tell it was too late. I banged on the neighbors houses, but it was forever before somebody would call the fire department, and the building was right down the street. Maybe not fifty yards.
When the first fire truck got there, he told me to get my car out of there, and I left and went back to work. I heard that only one person had died, and that was a lady in her eighties, and she had 5 smoke detectors. They said the fire started some where near her bed, and that she probably died early on by the smoke.

Some say that your life is already decided before you are born. I do not know.

there is a lot of things that I do not know, but I do believe if we try my idea and it does work, then that will be the first step in some other things that we did not know.

I do know if the idea works and it takes off like aviation did in it's first 100 years, that there will be a whole lot of new things that we did not know, and regardless what you may believe is every day's new reality, just might turn out to be a little different.

I have taken this opportunity from a baby thought, to an opportunity to change this country around with very little effort, and the best you can do, is see if you can dig up old thoughts on what type of person I am.

Please take the time to think about this one more time.

Strike two. Please be warned, by reading the answer to the test for your last strike.

Regardless how good any future post you may place here might be. i will not respond to them , and I will not answer them. The only exception to that might be the fact that i am so disorganized one day, and I answer it with out looking first to see who post it.

Now you are more than welcome to post anything negative toward me under the topic. "The Department of Negative Out of Body Possibilities"

Please take the time to understand what I am saying.

I have no problem with you posting anything negative you want about me, and i do not want you to hold anything back as well, but if you want to have an open dialog for years to come, then you have one more try to do that, and that sure don't leave you much cushion for making a mistake, and if you do get another strike, then if you do want to interact with me, you better create a new name. That is what some of the others do.

I honestly though believe it is as easy to get my idea concept started for free, as it is for some to play these time bandit games.

they can't have any issues with the topic, so they would rather try and delay it, than spend one thought trying to help it, and even though some as made it quite clear for quite some time, that they don't want to try the idea, they continue to hang out here as though they have a purpose.

Maybe that is why they like to hang around, is because they know it is all free, and they want more.

Now if the were at my job. I would ask them to buy something, or they need to go.

What do they call those type of people?

My goal when I focus on this topic, or interact with this idea concept.

Is to do something today, to help make it happen tomorrow.

There is no flip flop in that!

Thank you for hanging in here with your views, as some others only want to delay it with time bandit thinking.

Tim

Little 10 Toes

28th July 2008, 09:52 PM

Wow. Tim4848, you claim that you would not come back if there were less than 25,000 views by a specific date, yet you continue to post here. That was well into this thread. Please explain how you did not flip-flop.

Please explain why you have not apologized to wollery for insinuating that he was a spy.

Tim4848

28th July 2008, 11:30 PM

Thank you for reading my invisible thoughts,

I posted questions on that one site that is suppose to answer your questions.
It has been about a week, but I can't seam to find where they have any good answers.

I asked CNN if they would be interested in doing a story about this topic.

They talk about everything else. Why not this as well?

I will give them a while before I go to the next one.

You know the one that saids "We report, you decide"

All I am trying to do right now is to give more people the chance to decide about this topic.

Like it or not, but the idea is to easy and simple to do, that it can't be tried at some point.

Why not save time and just do it now?

What would it hurt?

How could it help?

What could it hurt?

How could it help?

How much does it cost to do it?

Free!

What would it hurt?

Do the positives out weigh the negatives?

Yes!

Apparently the state of Ohio has always declared Tim Brewer of Sound mind, and I don't see anytime in the future where they are planning on reversing that.

So if I am of sound mind, and my mind believe this Free idea concept is possible, then why not try it.

What would it hurt?

Is it worth giving up on because some come here with a different agenda, and they would rather waste their time attacking me than trying to do anything to make your life any better.

If you are tired of them just going on about a whole bunch of nothing, and would like to see this opportunity have a Chance to play out, then please fill free to go to coast to coast, and ask them if i could be a guest on one of their shows.

I envision one day on C.S.I. Florida, where they will find a note in somebody wallet or purse, about this topic, The note will have the name of this topic, and their own pin number.

After they look up this topic, and find out what it is all about, then they will provide us with their information and then we will include it into our data base.

Now depending on what year that this might happen, might also depend on how you look at it at that time.

Example:
right now this is still new to a lot of people, but later on it will become a way of life.

Please fill free to be productive and point out to me what your answer has always been for this question,

"What would it hurt to try my idea concept for free?"

Thank you for reading my invisible thoughts, with those of your own,

Tim

leonAzul

29th July 2008, 12:57 AM

"What would it hurt to try my idea concept for free?"

What would it hurt for you to try your own idea for free?

Little 10 Toes

29th July 2008, 07:47 AM

Tim4848, why aren't you answering my questions or responding to my statements? Are you afraid to admit you are wrong?

LazyPint

29th July 2008, 04:14 PM

What would it hurt for you to try your own idea for free?

Exactly. Come on Tim.

1. Outline what it is you expect us to do.

2. Do it yourself.

amb

30th July 2008, 03:24 AM

Perhaps at the moment he is unexpectedly been held by men in white coats and may be delayed a bit. :D

Tim4848

30th July 2008, 05:05 AM

What would it hurt for you to try your own idea for free?

Not only am I doing this idea for free, but i am paying for it as well.

This typing is not free!

It cost money to inform people about this concept.

I did not need the Internet before I decided I focus on this positive possibility.

Early on in this topic, I got in the way too much to my inner thoughts, but as I worked at it. I have gotten better at getting out of the way.

No one can be tougher on you than my inner thoughts

Decide to ignore your inner thoughts, and you got nobody to blame but your self.

What would it hurt to try my idea?

Thank you for reading my invisible thoughts,

Tim

Tim4848

30th July 2008, 05:13 AM

Exactly. Come on Tim.

1. Outline what it is you expect us to do.

2. Do it yourself.

I already have!

I expected this site to be able to be tough on me and my topic, and you came through with flying colors.

You were tough, but not tough enough. not tough enough to explain why my idea wont work, and regardless what you say about me. People still come to view what I have to say.

I have always heard, if you can make it in New York. You can make it anywhere.

I have been here a very long time. Everything after this site, is just icing on the cake.

Thank you for reading my invisible thoughts, with those of your own.

:boxedin:Tim:boxedin:

Tim4848

30th July 2008, 05:19 AM

Perhaps at the moment he is unexpectedly been held by men in white coats and may be delayed a bit. :D

Is that what you would like to see happen to this opportunity?

Why?

:confused:

Akhenaten

30th July 2008, 05:41 AM

Not only am I doing this idea for free, but i am paying for it as well.

Actually, I think we're all being made to pay for it.

This typing is not free!

That's something you'll need to discuss with your ISP.

It cost money to inform people about this concept.

You may wish to review your investment strategy, given that nobody has been informed of anything yet. What concept?

I did not need the Internet before I decided I focus on this positive possibility.

Good oh.

Early on in this topic, I got in the way too much to my inner thoughts, but as I worked at it. I have gotten better at getting out of the way.

Just early on? In any case, how is that you see your "inner thoughts" as being separate from "you"? Becoming better at not taking part in your own thought processes seems a strange ambition, although as you point out, you're getting quite good at it.

No one can be tougher on you than my inner thoughts

Nah. I've been belted a few times in real life, and your inner thoughts are complete pussies compared to that.

Decide to ignore your inner thoughts, and you got nobody to blame but your self.

Not so. Blame your inner thoughts and your self is off the hook.

What would it hurt to try my idea?

Hard to say. You haven't mentioned how it's to be implemented, so a damage assessment is a little difficult. So far the only harm appears to have been done to one person's credibility, so it's no biggie.

Thank you for reading my invisible thoughts,

Tim

For good or ill, I can only read and respond to the visible ones here. I don't think I need to know how to access the others.

Pharaoh.

leonAzul

30th July 2008, 09:31 PM

I will give them a while before I go to the next one.

You know the one that saids "We report, you decide"

Here's the thing about that:

So far, there is nothing quantifiable to report about consciousness after death. There is no publicly observable event to record, that unequivocally demonstrates consciousness after death.

There is much speculation. Yet no evidence.

BrainGate is certainly not the answer. For it to be successful, it assumes lucid persons who are willing to train themselves, and machines that can be programmed, such that those persons can express themselves and interact with their environment in a meaningful way. The point is to empower living persons with living brains!

If you want to extrapolate that to the ability to detect personalities untethered from the living body, then you have a "long row to hoe".

Your first task is to independently--that is to say, beyond your own personal experience--identify and record an out-of-body-experience (OBE). Confirmation that others have experienced an OBE at another time doesn't confirm the real impact of your particular OBE. Demonstrate at least once that a machine can verify the impact your OBE has had on objective reality. Then we can proceed with the rest of your project.

cos

31st July 2008, 08:13 PM

You were tough, but not tough enough. not tough enough to explain why my idea wont work, and regardless what you say about me.

Tim, more than one person has already explained why this idea won't work. The Braingate only functions when it's attached to a living brain. It doesn't detect "inner thoughts", visible or invisible, in any way.

If there is such a thing as consciousness without physical substance, this machine cannot detect it.

Do you understand that even if your idea is possible, it can't be done with the Braingate?

Tim4848

31st July 2008, 09:22 PM

"If there is such a thing as consciousness without physical substance, this machine cannot detect it."

To keep it simple, when hes it been tried?

Who has tried my idea concept before, that can say with complete confidence that it can not work?

What have they tried?

Is this just something you know?

I know I could make it work?

You believe I can't, but your only answer is that it will not work based on the directions to the machine.

Imagine your inner thoughts like a fishing bobber floating on water.

All of a sudden it starts to go up and down in the water.

You pull your line in, but there is nothing on the hook but your bait.

Was this a fish bite, or something else?

To be a fish bite, I would need to show some type of evidence, but if it was a potential out of body afterlife, then I would have to analyze the friction in the water.

a doctor comes into the room and declares somebody is dead, and then fills out all the paper work.

What evidence does he have that they are actually dead.

Science has no way of knowing if they still have thoughts or not.

Why are we so quick to call them dead, when they are actually missing.

The whole country gets excited,if one person all of the sudden comes up missing, but they don't seam to care after they declare them dead.

Now some people are turned off the machine because they feel that they are brain dead.

They don't really know, but they do no it cost a lot of money. Now if we try my idea, and we discover it is possible, then we could afford that other option.

There is so much that we don't know about this topic, but some feels that we should just follow a curtain direction. One that slows down something that should be going forward, and you can base that on what little effort we have ever tried in this field.

Imagine for a moment that you were about to die as a BrainGate patient. Would you slow down for this option in your afterlife experience, just like people do when they drive by an accident on the side of the road.

You want to know more by nature, and there is a reason for that.

you can not stand to be bored.

People have told you one story, and you have never had a chance to try mine.

Got to go, I will be back.

Tim

Little 10 Toes

31st July 2008, 10:10 PM

OOooh. Fantasy story time. Here's one that is just as good. Once upon a time there was a person who believed there was a tooth fairy. This person dream if only there was a way to modify a mouse trap, it would catch a tooth fairy. All across the land this person told everyone about his fantastic dream, even to the people who were talking about other things. When asked about what changes would be needed to the mouse trap, the person just told stories about how the capture of a tooth fairy would help everyone. The person, when asked for proof of a tooth fairy's exsistance, would proudly say, "I saw one, but have no proof." When confronted with the fact that a mouse trap is designed to catch mice and not tooth faries, the person would proclaim, "Prove to me that it would not catch a tooth fairy!"

Tim4848

31st July 2008, 11:39 PM

Thank you for reading my invisible thoughts,

I believe that this possibility is possible, and I have shown it.

One amendment at a time.

Some seam to worry about the actual moment of truth.

Some seam to doubt it because I do not follow the actual policy and procedure they are doing now.

With a little research. You could go back in this topic and see what my personality is.

I have the natural ability to role play any situation out with this topic, just like you, but you continue to only take one stand. You show no interest into exploring different options as I can see how it will play out, even though I do provide a free option, during all the time we explore this option. There is no hidden cost.

No cost, because it is based on cross training and nothing else.

Maybe some don't want to lose their job to afterlife. Especially in fields where you have to get paid for your thoughts.

What they don't see with their negative insight, is the fact that you get paid right along with them, because you are helping by taking on this responsibility. It is your job to make sure they follow all policies and procedures. The afterlife might just be happy to get a chance to do something again, and you get to enjoy life more.

You can do this from any place the Internet can be used.

You approve what they post, and you get paid.

Now that might mean you will do it more on bicycles, because the world will lean toward this way of thinking, and if you want to see the world, then you watch it for free through better visual maps.

In the future you will go to a map. see something you like, and then they send it to you.

(this could be like a welcome mat or something. You could go to a free view the world on the Internet business, and set up this type of event for people in the future.

People will be measured by how much gas they use.

You will be required to run your own personal pin number through the scanner, before you can use your credit card.

It is not the fact that we don't have ways of making fuel at that time, but how much we can make, and how dirty it is.

Like it or not, but you are not right, regardless how good you get at it, because you just don't know.

Like it or not, but I do not know either. My inner thoughts believe it is possible, but it just don't know.

Now this could be a quagmire, but it is not, because we have an option.

This option comes up all the time in the game of chess on pogo.

You get them in check, but they are able to get out of it with options.

We do have a option in this field of science, and yes it has no support that I know of, except by me.

These thoughts come to me natural, but that still don't make it true, but it also has created a way of testing this possibility.

Now for any other experiment like this would cost a lot of money, but I found a way around that.

Cross train patients that have experience in the field I would like to study.

I have offered to train them for free.

Now this is a savings just by it self.

How much do you think they pay for that science now?

I would think a lot of money.

Now do you believe that this possibility could hurt their field in anyway?

Maybe at first when they can not handle a funny joke, but after that, It changes, and they begin to see as I do, that their just might be something there after all.

Now if one day, I do see that I am in checkmate, and that you do have something that could show that this is not possible, then I will concede to say you are right.

Quick review:

You say no, with nothing to back it up with.

I say yes, with nothing but experience to back it up.

The experience give my chess piece a higher number piece, based on the experience, as yours has argument has nothing to bring to the table.

You claim with a "flaw in your way of thinking, not that I go out of my way to point out your way of thinking mistakes.

You think like this type of fashion:

You explain it as though it is just a field of constance, but on that same field. We could have tried anything.

What is the time line on free?

We are not talking about an option that would take a lot to do. It is nothing more than an advance type of drill

It is like placing a food schedule, and then following it, until you want to make minor adjustments to it along the way.

there will be web sites that will set it all up for you for free.

It will keep track of the dates of things in your ridge, and on and on.

In the big picture of things, you have to be on the right map.

You know in the pizza field. You have to know where you are going, and you have to figure out different locations, regardless what neighborhood or road it is on, and regardless of the weather.

Thank you for reading my invisible thoughts for today.

I will be back!

Tim

amb

1st August 2008, 04:38 AM

Then this Braingate thingy could theoretically sense god if it works. Right?

Akhenaten

1st August 2008, 09:13 AM

Then this Braingate thingy could theoretically sense god if it works. Right?

Only if he's dead.

Tanstaafl

1st August 2008, 11:10 AM

Wheezebucket

1st August 2008, 01:49 PM

Not true. He also said he liked Johnny Mnemonic.

Checkmate!

cos

1st August 2008, 04:53 PM

Tim4848

2nd August 2008, 09:23 PM

Then this Braingate thingy could theoretically sense god if it works. Right?

:boxedin::crowded::boxedin:

Yes!

Tim4848

2nd August 2008, 09:31 PM

Only if he's dead.

:boxedin::crowded::boxedin:

I see anybody that has ever died as missing, regardless what type of status you want to give to them.

They all have thoughts, and most of those thoughts can be measured.

This free idea concept could be done different ways, but the plan I propose is the easiest and the most effective. If everything being equal, and you want to get more bang for your buck.

Tim4848

2nd August 2008, 09:51 PM

:D Excellent summary!

Tim, in 498 posts you have not managed to say anything that Little 10 Toes didn't say in the above.

Thank you for reading my invisible thoughts,

That sounds like a nice story, but it don't come clos to this possibility, unless you are holding back on death.

Can you prove that our inner thoughts die after death?

Did they have a curtain day that they were expecting the tooth ferry there?

How does it help my idea concept if the teeth of the patients of BrainGate begin to fall out?

Would you like me to think out of the box on this?

We know what tooth ferry are.

You can not say that with my idea concept.

I try and answer as many questions as I can.

I'm sorry if I can't get to them all.

I now have a new problem.

I have typed so much, I can not read some of the letters on the key board any more.

Something to Think about:

It is cheaper to try my idea than it is for me to go out and buy a key board.

Here are the letters I can not read anymore.

wertyuioasdfghlcbnm

Regardless that I can not see these letters anymore. I still believe we can find them, and somewhere in the middle of those letters I can not read anymore. Is The Department of Positive Out of Body Possibilities.

Maybe God just wanted to drive that home through my fingers!

:boxedin::crowded::boxedin:

Tim4848

3rd August 2008, 12:02 AM

Okay Tim, try it the other way around:

Let's assume that the basic theory behind your idea is correct. Let's say you've died, and are now floating around as pure consciousness somehow. If I recall correctly, during your OBE you could see and move your point of view around, but you couldn't interact with any people or objects.

So you could fly up to the Braingate sensor dangling there and look at it. You could pan around it, and zoom in and out. But then what do you do? Where do you park your point of view so that you're interfacing with the sensor? How close do you have to get?

The problem is that the Braingate is also an object, so you wouldn't be able to affect it. The only kind of sensor it has detects electrical activity. If you're not made of matter, if you don't possess even a single charged particle of some kind, you would be invisible. And if you do have such particles, then you wouldn't need something so fancy to detect them. An EMF meter should do the trick.

Does that help to explain the trouble I'm having with your idea?

Good question cos,

I have no problem if you want to try that machine as well.

Please fill free to include anything you like.

One part of my idea concept is to allow as much attention to this possibility to as many people as possible, because more people, and there inter thought will get a chance to weigh in.

They will have the opportunity to weigh in on these types of challenges, and then they will bring up strings, showing how these machines work, and what positive thoughts we can learn from them, just as long as we have the concept focused on making this positive possibility possible.

You are trying to measure the norm, and my idea will be all over it.

Just as everything falls in place for it.

Just the energy in the room will be enough to make it happen.

Our goal is to give afterlife BrainGate patients the best viewing we have ever gien anyone.

What would be wrong with that?

Please fill free to even include some Ghost Hunters.

Bring all your equipment for this one big event.

Our goal will to measure everything that we can, and then try and measure it in a program that is consistent with the way friction is measured.

Just like that movie close encounters. you better have a game plan ready.

We will measure the math of all friction happening during the time we decide to try this experiment, and if results of this measuring has a pattern that is consistent with things that past BrainGate patients has done with their math, and the math points toward things that they had shown in the past that they can do, and then we are getting this type of measurement during the time of the experiment, then we keep going with it.

Example:

Lets say that a pattern of measurement happens in a way that is consistent with things past patients have done, and letting the BrainGate Patient know what type of activity you will be looking for, like you want them to try something on the screen, that none of the patients have ever had a hard time doing.

Make the plan at first simple:

The potential patient will have a number of different plays that they will be trying to do, and we will have different ways of informing them what part of the plan we would like them to try.

I believe that the best way to position self in my possibility with a floating sensor, is to back into it.

When I floated up by the ceiling in my out of body experience.

I did not float through the ceiling.

i believe the energy that needs to be measured from me in this out of body experience. Is always behind me in this situation.

You back up to the sensor but you look forward at the monitor.

Placing the correct angle for the sensor, and the monitor. Should be easy.

Before the BrainGate patient dies, hopefully of natural causes.

He will be to the room where this experiment will happen.

Our goal is to keep every thing open to them, from the moment they die.

That is the great thing about making something work, that has never been tried.

Expect the unexpected.

Please fill free to measure the unexpected now.

Let's say that we decided not to wait, and we will try this experiment right now with Elvis.

Do you know if he is even in the building right now?

Now you say that you got the best toys out there in ghost buster land, and you can measure everything in a room with out Elvis.

Why would i place my self in that position to prove what I feel is the best way to make it happen.

There is a reason it is the best way.

Elvis has no experience in this experiment.

I don't have a problem letting him be a part of the process once we make this idea concept a reality, but until then, He will have to wait, just like God.

As I have said before.

if you are not using the right pin number later on, then you have to take them at their word.

After this idea concept becomes a reality, and it will become that by what it does during the experiment, and then after that. It will snow ball over night as everybody begins to actually take it serious, just like they did with 911, and New Orleans after hurricane Katrina.

That is one thing about seeing it with your own eyes or not, that really makes a connection.

As of this time right now, we do not have a plan date or time for anything.

We have my idea concept gathering friction on my keyboards and nothing else.

Who should be there when the experiment takes place.

A few Ghost Hunters

Medium Lisa Williams

An out of body afterlife BrainGate patient.

After the death of this person. We will begin measuring the activity around the room with different sensors.

i believe if a braingate patient is allowed to move freely to that room of the experiment, then it will not hurt them for you to try anything you would like to do, just as long as you would with stand it with your own thoughts.

Example:

you don't want to touch cable current now as a human, and then you don't want to do it as an afterlife either.

If you were a out of body afterlife, and came in contact with energy in electric cable.

I believe that this could effect you, but it is only an educated guess to the fact that this energy is focused with a friction that might change your location, and what your options are.

Example:

Lets say that you come out of your body after death, and during the time of actually coming out of your body you see the light you would see once you came out of your body.

As you proceeded to leave your body. The math of this confined possibility would be that of a tunnel type of vision, and depending if you are leaving though the part of your thoughts that are in their right brain, would see pictures from the past, just by the speed of their thoughts in that situation,

it would be very easy to type you a mind map of steps that they would think about while they are getting the feeling of being scared, and just like your inner thoughts are able to take you out of pain and into pleasure now. It will do the same their as well, but after that it will depend on you.

you cant hide in sand, when you are floating around a room, and all your mental function are still working correctly, and they are actually working better.

Just like a semi, after it drops off the back of the truck.

You still have the ability to move around on the way you have the ability to move around.

Please take note:

we have done nothing yet in this field for everything that we could plan to make it work, but educating the patients of what our standard procedure for trying with this idea concept, Will be the first.

We can always change the plan if we dean it is necessary.

I also want to make it clear, that I do not have to fix every problem to this possibility, or do i have to have the best plan.

Example:

Just like your good post has helped to make this possibility stronger.

Regardless how you bring the problem. We now can look at it, and see how we can work around it, until we can place the best plan in place, and then just wait and see if it works or not.

You are saying from your way of looking at it, that you find it hard.

I see it as all easy.

i have no doubt that we can connect a Machine language way of measuring BrainGate now, to a connection with your device as well, and that the math that is tried now with BrainGate patients can be tried there as well.

So am I saying that BrainGate patients must think in a Machine type of language.

Yes.

Teach the BrainGate patients a different way of measuring it.

Add it to there way of doing it now.

Believe it or not, by the time my experiment should take place in the future.

there should be a better BrainGate than the one they are using now, and depending on what the new bells and whistles should come with it will depend on us.

By us playing out this scenario and taking the future in play, as everything gets upgraded at some point through our life, and how we will plan it.

I have no doubt that afterlife have a positive and a negative that allows them the ability to be a part of energy, and that they are quite capable to move where ever they want in a room, but I do believe that they do have the ability to land on a surface.

They are in the world of total touchy feely.

they have the ability to feel with the pressure of the situation.

Now is this perceived ability, just like your inner thoughts perceive everything, or is it a constance to your size and mass against other size and mass.

Can afterlife go through walls?

Did not happen to me.

Why add it to this concept?

I touched the ceiling in my situation.

We can touch the ceiling now with out thoughts, so why add something that might not be true, or maybe years in the future, after this idea works, You can have afterlife come on your site and brag that they were able to go through walls.

I know of some who say that they have out of body experiences now, where they claim to go through stuff, and even fly here or there.

i don't know of any that claim to go into the future, or go back in the past.

They all seam to stay in the present.

I once got on my hand and knees and placed a invisible wire all the way around my yard.

In theory their idea should of worked, but they underestimated the other patient playing a role in their theory.

The dog next door, and how it would come in the yard and get my dog excited and then they both just ran through the wire, and away they went.

Should not of happened in theory but it did.

What we think we know in a situation that has never had the light of day, and what we really know. Just might be different, and you will never know until you give it the light of day.

As I have said before.

you can not claim one way or another, until you consider one other, and that is Murphy Law.

What is the big deal?

Is it because i have not gone the proper channels for making this happen, and maybe i should go back to school and get some type of degree, so I could get the chance to pursue this, or you just figured out that this is just stagnating now, and you might as well ask these type of questions, because what would it hurt.

All it hurts is time.

time that we could be using by beginning this idea concept and then we can talk about any part of it you would like.

The part you seam to be missing from time to time, is the fact that we have to have somebody reliable at both sides of this experiment, and neither one of them has to be me.

The reliable patients who promised to try this experiment, and the staff member who is willing at this time. To try and measure it.

i believe that this time, if we plan it correctly for future BrainGate machines. that we set it up where the staff member, does not have to be in the same room with the BrainGate machine.

I could include just by myself off the top of my head all type of things we could try with this potential reliable trained patient, but as I said before.

If you just want to set it up right now in as simple as we can do it, and just keep it simple, then we could do that as well.

Go outside on a cloudy day, and look straight up at the clouds.

Some would say that you will see little out of body afterlife, in the form of a little lighter dot.

some would say that you are seeing stars, like the ones you see after getting knocked out in a fight.

i am not saying that these lighter dots of space is afterlife, but that would be about how high up I would expect them to be out side, and what else would you want them to do in that situation, and regardless how fast you are able to see them when you do look up, does not mean that they are actual afterlife, because we have no way to measure it, just like we have no way of measuring my surface drawing as well, or if God will step in and take a moment to do a conference call or not, will all be decided at this one day event, and how long you would want this event to take place can be decided by you as well.

Maybe you will only allow one minute, during one minute of silence for that brave patient, who ever it turns out to be.

Thank you for your good questions, and please fill free to spark me with some more good ones.

Tim

We will give them the benefit of the doubt that they are missing.

Little 10 Toes

3rd August 2008, 12:02 AM

Can you prove that our inner thoughts die after death?Can you prove that they don't?

Did they have a curtain day that they were expecting the tooth ferry there?Nope. Just like Death. Or only if they happen to have a Calcium Boat schedule.

How does it help my idea concept if the teeth of the patients of BrainGate begin to fall out?Nope, since they'll be dead.

Would you like me to think out of the box on this?No. It would be nice to have you answer some of the basic questions that have been asked of you previously and which will be shown at the end of this post.

We know what tooth ferry are. You can not say that with my idea concept. I try and answer as many questions as I can. I'm sorry if I can't get to them all.You are exactly right. We don't know what your concept is because you do not answer questions.

I now have a new problem. I have typed so much, I can not read some of the letters on the key board any more.

Something to Think about: It is cheaper to try my idea than it is for me to go out and buy a key board.

Here are the letters I can not read anymore. wertyuioasdfghlcbnm

Regardless that I can not see these letters anymore. I still believe we can find them, and somewhere in the middle of those letters I can not read anymore. Is The Department of Positive Out of Body Possibilities.

Maybe God just wanted to drive that home through my fingers!

:boxedin::crowded::boxedin:Perhaps you can use a marker, one that you already have to write the letters down. That will cost you less than the materials, that you still haven't told us about, used to modify a BrainGate.

Can you provide the following:
Testable proof that there is an afterlife?
Testable proof that the dead can interact with physical objects?
Testable proof that the dead stay on this planet?
Exactly what modifications are needed to have a machine that is used to connect directly to a brain interact with the dead?
Reasons why you have not said "I'm sorry" to wollery?
Reasons why you came back here to post messages when you said you would not?
Reasons why you have not done any of the things you ask others to do?

Tim4848

3rd August 2008, 12:38 AM

Check out this thread if you ever get a chance to just try and look at this topic as it should be looked at.

I have never seen somebody so dead set on killing this idea as obviously have you been trying.

You get out of something that you put into it, and always trying to act as though I am the only one capable of doing it. Has not slowed me down one bit.

I have now programmed my cell phone with Coast to Coast, and if they ever have a show that gets the least bit close to my possibility, then I am going to ust the first time caller line and go from their.

I have been told that I have a good radio voice.

I will be back!

:boxedin::jaw-dropp:boxedin:

amb

3rd August 2008, 04:03 AM

Little 10 Toes

3rd August 2008, 09:04 AM

Tim4848, why haven't you answered my questions? Are you afraid of something that you can't prove?

Giggywig

3rd August 2008, 09:24 AM

Check out this thread if you ever get a chance to just try and look at this topic as it should be looked at.
I've read enough of it..
I have never seen somebody so dead set on killing this idea as obviously have you been trying.
You have yet to offer any reason why your idea has merit.
You get out of something that you put into it, and always trying to act as though I am the only one capable of doing it. Has not slowed me down one bit.
Garbage in, garbage out. The reason you're being pushed to do something with your idea is that it is a) your idea; b) you seem very reluctant to make the least amount of effort to realize it; c) you have not given any reason to think it's a viable idea. The only thing slowing you down is yourself. That your current speed is 0 should tell you something.
I have now programmed my cell phone with Coast to Coast, and if they ever have a show that gets the least bit close to my possibility, then I am going to ust the first time caller line and go from their.

I have been told that I have a good radio voice.
Good luck with that.
I will be back!
Oh, I have no doubt you will.

Tim4848

3rd August 2008, 09:03 PM

Enough of this already. This thread has long passed it's use by date.

But I can't resist one more question.
If death is survived by mankind, what and where are the ''souls'' if you like, or better still, what exactly are all these billions of ''souls'' doing with their eternal life?
Are they around peeping at the living, keeping the earth on the proper orbit, or just a continuous licking of the deities feet and never ending singing of hymns and worshipping this deity?
If that is the case, thanks but no thanks. I would rather cease to exist at the point of death than forever show my gratitude at some god with an ego problem. :)

Dear ambnp,

You answered your own statement, by wanting to ask one more question. Believe it or not, but the world does not rotate just around you.

Please allow others to ask questions as well, and it just might not hurt to try listening.

All potential out of body afterlife people float around.

How many years did we have to wait as humans to get the chance to communicate?

Did Time Warner just show up at the first cave man cave?

I would imagine that we had to wait a while.

I hear that there is still places in the United states that still don't have regular phone service yet. Now that we have cell phones, maybe they can get that instead.

You know it is one thing to get hand me downs, but it is another to get nothing.

Sure people have placed buttons in their coffin, hoping to be able to press it after they die, and even though this does show an effort on somebody to try and do it, the way they went about it was not.

We have all type of way to communicate in this world, and some are simple and easy and free to do, as others come with some type of bill.

I have figured out a way where we can try and communicate with afterlife, for free, even though the experiment should cost a lot of money.

Millions of dollars.

I have saved you millions of dollars if you try my idea concept.

Imagine for a moment that everything you have ever done, or thought about was stored on this CD that is in the shape of an 8-ball.

This 8-ball is as shiny as a CD, if not more, based on the way it changes color to the light.

We look at a mirror, and we see a mirror, but we do have the ability to see past that in so many ways, because you can see the finger prints stain on the 8-ball, and who finger is it?

Lets say that it is mine.

I have this finger print smear on this 8-ball that looks likes a fat CD, but it has the ability to record everything about me.

Now take that 8-ball and shrink it down to the size of the smallest energy on earth but then re-add all the connections that energy has around them.

To be the smallest energy, and think that you are weak. would be a mistake.

Your afterlife energy is no different. It just don't have all the extras anymore.

No heart, arm, leg, ear, mouth, etc.

You have vision, and you have thoughts, emotions, worries, fears, and sure right now you might feel that you can opt out of this possibility, like you have a choice or something.

You will feel no pan in this place, except the pain you perceive.

Your inner thought energy make up is just fine with what it has to work with.

Why?

Because you are use to it.

Just like the finger print on that fat CD that looks like an 8-ball.

People just get use to seeing it there, and don't give it another thought.

You don't know how good you have it. you really don't.

You want to dismiss this possibility, when in reality if is in your best interest to do.

It's free!

It can't hurt you, as long as our country does it first.

A Tim Brewer

Quote:

"It is easier to do my idea concept than it is to clean out my basement."

:boxedin::crowded::boxedin:

Thank you for reading my invisible thoughts,

Tim

Tim4848

4th August 2008, 02:48 AM

Thank you for reading my invisible thoughts with those of your own.

Don't see a need for this type of possibility in your life right now?

Is it always about You?

Are others allowed to try this experiment with out your help?

Would you have a problem with that?

Do you mind if others are free to stop here and view, and see if this might be something they would like?

Could you learn to like that over time?

I have no problem watching other people enjoy life as I drive my $350.00 car.

The government must be watching me or something, because I have been driving this car for a couple of months now, and i have sat right across from a light with police cars, and they don't pull me over for my real bad passenger front window.

Maybe police don't pull you over for that kind of stuff anymore, unless you don't have your seat belt on.

It seams to me that they should just drive down the seat and just start passing out tickets for those types of violations and just save time.

Everything comes down to pain and pleasure.

I don't want to fix the window, because it will cost at least half what i paid for the car, and i am just willing to let the local police make that choice for me.

It don't effect the driver side at all.

Now that story and many like it was about me, but the beginning of this thread was about you.

Don't see a need for this type of afterlife possibility in your life right now?

Is it always about You?

Can you think of others that might need to know more about this?

Lets fill this experiment room up with all the bells and whistles that you think can prove my idea wrong, or prove it right.

We have so many nice monuments through out this world where people can explore, but we have nothing for missing afterlife.

Can we just add this idea concept to your honey do bucket list as well?

Pretend your better half wanted you to do more this concept, or maybe your preacher. I have no doubt if you took the time, you could find somebody through out your life that is going to make you want to reconsider how you feel about this positive possibility.

Yes I was one of those that never felt that they would miss school, but now I am. Just like I was with school, you will be with this idea concept.

you will second guess the possibility from time to time, and regardless what your inner thoughts feel about the possibility, you try and deny that as well, until you are there, and then your options are gone.

Gone!

L zero!

Can't build a machine in that situation.

we do like to thank Tim for being a spoke person for all missing afterlife, and believing in them, while others ran off to have fun, excitement and the rat race of life.

Tim of done so many different things through out his life to make his comfort zone the best, but he refused to do that, because he could never live with him self if he did that, and even though I continue to stay positive. I just hope you have the ability to do the same.

Emotions play a big part in my idea concept.

We all have emotions, and we also know how they can make or break us, just like that guy out of Lebanon Ohio, who once was a great mind, and then he is sending everybody white powdered letters.

The reason I selected the word positive, is because i already knew before i started this topic that there would be negative.

I felt that was a good starting point, because you do play an important role into this possibility.

It should matter to you one day, regardless if you can see it now.

A Free insurance plan

A free back up plan

don't just think about you, think about other people you know, and let them weigh in on this free idea concept as well.

What would it hurt?

Walk with me for a moment, and think about this thought.

We need a commitment from somebody to help make this idea concept work.

Will it happen on Coast to Coast?

I hear that Monday night is a good night to call in.

Maybe you will hear me.

You know it would be one thing if i was the only one trying to catch the tooth ferry, but that is not the case.

what i am looking for is much bigger than that.

Paradigm Hope for everybody.

The last good connection

A chance to have a purpose

Good wii training

a free cause that could end world hunger, wars, crime, abortions, drug traffic, and it would protect our children, as well as our seniors.

As a group we can do this.

i understand that some don't believe it, and that is fine if that is the way they want to look at it for now.

My goal is not to try and get everybody to like the idea concept.

i understand that some of you feel that it don't seam right, and you are happy to leave it at that, and for some reason you feel so strongly that you are right. You are willing to stay on this topic. Maybe you actually believe that it can't be done, and you want to be the first person there to say I told you so. Maybe you feel you have a vested interest in this topic, to have that opportunity.

what ever makes you happy?

This topic is for you.

Would you like me to rap it up for you as well.

Would you like fries with that?

I would thing if I knew one day that i was going to die, but I also did believe that there is some type of afterlife, then i would want to cover all my bets.

Support a religion if that is what you are into.

Support something else that does not have God in it if you want too, and maybe have a plan with your wealthy family and pay somebody like medium Lisa Williams to try and contact with you at that time.

have what ever plan you would like, but if for some reason you decide that my idea concept might be worth trying afterwords, please fill free to let me know.

I would like to think and feel that out of body afterlife would like you to try my idea, because then they have some options as well, and like I have said many times before, there is no dialog in this field, and it just amazes me. Now that we have more options to try.

I find that it takes people no time to figure out the best place to watch fire works, and i believe we will have no problem finding people to try this idea concept as well.

maybe i should pick a curtain time when i will not try this idea.

Maybe that will get people moving on this possibility.

Maybe i should say we should wait five years for example, before i will help do this experiment right.

Would you like me to add some pain from my end, to help you motivate quicker toward this possibility.

I have no plans to do that at this time.

Tim

amb

4th August 2008, 03:10 AM

I suppose you know all about life after death as you have been there and come back to tell anybody that's willing to listen all about it?

leonAzul

4th August 2008, 03:18 AM

Would you like me to add some pain from my end, to help you motivate quicker toward this possibility.

No pain required.

Some motion might be noticed by those of us who still care ;)

Tim4848

4th August 2008, 02:27 PM

I suppose you know all about life after death as you have been there and come back to tell anybody that's willing to listen all about it?

I have already had a near death out of body experience. Just like 600 million people will have happen to them on average at some point in their life as well.

Some feel that we don't have the right stuff to actually leave our body, because some never do, but not all of them.

I have no doubt that there is different levels to an out of body experience just like there is to having a baby.

I believe until we stop thinking scattered brain about this possibility, and actually get more focused on the possibility it self, just like anything else, then we are opening the door for others out side of this country to pass us up in this field of science.

some feel that there is no field of science here, but they have nothing to back that up with.

I offer something and it is free!

What do you offer?

What are you willing to offer?

What are you willing to offer 5 years from now?

What can you offer if you find your self in this situation later in life?

Either we really know or we don't know, and the best way I know we can find out is to try the idea concept and see how it plays out.

So what do we have to start with?

Adding a follow through to human out of body experiences.

Informing people a head of time where we plan on throwing this party!

Everybody will be held responsible to bring their own party supplies.

While everybody else is having fun. I will be focused on making this free idea concept work, and as soon as it happens, then you can feel free to shoot your fire works up at the afterlife in celebration if that is what you are into.

You decide, I already have.

Please take the time to listen to coast to coast tonight. I might get the opportunity to call in.

http://www.coasttocoastam.com/

Thank you for being a part of my invisible concept, as it finds it's place in history.

Where it lands nobody knows, or at least they are not saying.

Tim

Tim
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Little 10 Toes

4th August 2008, 07:35 PM

Tim4848, so far you haven't motivated anyone to do anything. Please explain again why you haven't done anything.

I have a preaty good guess why he won't answer:
I'm sure he has me on ignore. That's the a reason he doesn't answer.

TheRedWorm

4th August 2008, 07:43 PM

Well, 10 toes, just as a favor to you (and to get my post count up) I will quote you in case he has you on ignore.

Tim4848, so far you haven't motivated anyone to do anything. Please explain again why you haven't done anything.

Tim4848

4th August 2008, 10:20 PM

Well, 10 toes, just as a favor to you (and to get my post count up) I will quote you in case he has you on ignore.

I am just trying something differently everyday, until something sticks.

I am not ignoring any body, I am just skipping a thread here or there, but i do like his little box.

That is neat.

Some of you just might not know it, but we do have a lot of work to get this concept idea to market.

We need a group or one person who can make a real nice site for this topic.

i need somebody who can break this whole topic down to something short and sweet, or we can just see what goggle saids about it on the Internet, and go with something short and sweet.

Maybe start listing different mind maps associated with this topic, and make sure we have everything covered.

Mental follow through from start to finish.
Never under estimate your inner energy.

We are connected to our inner energy by association, and we do influence this energy in the afterlife, by this association, and our experience, just as long we focus on things like this, than our confidence in this field.

Example:

Imagine i am the Afterlife man right now, and I just made a connection on BrainGate surface sensor, and i am now quite aware that i am no longer a human.

It all happened so quickly.

i was walking across the road, and right when i questioned myself if I looked both ways, or if i was just focusing straight a head because i was in deep thought, but regardless what I was thinking right then, i find my self floating over the street where parts of me lay.

It is a good thing that i knew about this possibility, and made the connection when I did. it is just like it was that time i had that out of body experience a long time ago.

Sure i could get blue because I am dead, but what good will that do?

Let's get this thing going, because others need this chance as well, and i will think a bout you everyday, and hope you care to think of me as well.

Just think if we did not have this machine ready.

What option would I have?

None

None

None

none

So how was my trip?

I did not feel a thing, because the only thing i have is energy, and as long as I am connected to it, as you are as well, is make the best of what ever hand I am dealt.

If there is an afterlife and they just can't communicate, then that is fine, just as long we did what we could do to help the easy missing, and give them options just in case they defy what others might feel are long odds, but just like other things that seamed impossible, like machine that can communicate with thought friction, and Murphy Laws in general, and just see how it plays out.

sure it might sound to some like crazy odds, but we just don't know, just as one time we did not know washing our hands before surgery was so very important.

Sure it sounds like a easy thing now, but back then it was a major break through.

If you believe by giving the potential patients more training in this field is wrong, then where do you feel it is wrong?

Can we agree that it is important to train these patients in case the possibility can happen?

Can energy be stopped by any surface?

Yes, we have experience with it every day in our thoughts now, and when we have out of body experiences.

What I have done so far?

Came up with the idea and concept.

Figured out how we can do this project for free, and save the tax payer millions of dollars.

i have figured out a way how we could include everybody

I figured out a way to end wars

I figured out a way to protect our seniors better, and our kids

I figured out a way to lower the number of abortions

i figured out a way that you could use against the war on drugs as well, and depending on how far you want to follow human right issues, and laws that are already on the books, but i also give you time to get all the policies and procedures you would want to work. In place before the idea actually works.

I figured out a way how we can set it all up quicker, and i always explain it in a away that you know you could do better. I am always trying to keep you up to speed with the idea concept, and what part of the paradigm we are at.

Now that is just a few things I thought up off the top of my head that I have done so far, but it you wanted me to brag, and waste time with that emotion. i could list more, but what is the need today?

But regardless how much passion I flood you with, you always want me to do the rest as well.

I have no problem with that, if you could help as well.

Help with something you are good at.

a great web site for this topic.

a great blog about this topic.

Anything that could be conceived as positive.

This idea concept has to be a good for everybody, not just me or you.

By you not doing anything. Makes you look like somebody who don't care, and if you don't care. Why are you here?

Some of you could of taken a two year course on any field in science as I talk about this possibility.

Maybe this field of science is just not for you.

Please take a moment and back away from your learning curve, and think about what you have learned so far.

If you feel you have not found something to work toward, then you just might not ever get it.

What do I have to do?

Nothing

I think i have done my fair share already, and now i am just an icon to the concept, as a reference point.

Sure I would like to be more involved but i would have to be asked.

Just like you want me to answer all your questions.

tonight I showed you what a out of body person can think about in that situation, and what options we have in place for that exit off of human highway, and even though some don't understand how over crowded this area of life it, and how it is so disorganized because everybody is just drifting, and they have done nothing to lay a course out in these uncertain waters of life.

And to think some thought Christopher Columbus was crazy to go over water that might fall over the edge to something, but as history has shown. we all have the ability to duplicate any mistake if it is ingrained into our culture based off all type of different mistakes that were allowed by our own President.

Either based off of ignorance, or the biggest bluff to try to alter how life should be played out, because somebody had some skeleton in their closet that they just never wanted anybody to know about.

Thank you for reading my invisible thoughts with these of your own.

Every mind map concerning this possibility has to be discussed as we proceed to do it, and then we will be getting more done quicker.

Tim4848

4th August 2008, 10:30 PM

Here is something you could do to help with this topic.

Keep it on the front page of this section of the site until I return.

Let's see how many days you can do that, before we move on to the next page of this topic.

Your effort!

Tim4848

6th August 2008, 03:26 AM

I guess that is one way to have more time to inform you about what my thoughts are into.

keeping it going!

Everyday is a new reality, and everything going on in that day is connected to this possibility.

Hello, is there anybody in there?

I could type out just about everything said in the news and show you how it is connected to this possibility in some way.

Would you like me to do that from time to time?

Your coordination is in line with afterlife coordination.

Humans just as to deal with more structure coordination than afterlife do.

As humans we learned to use a fork, as an afterlife, you learn to float around.

Afterlife has the ability to make this invention work.

they have the ability to touch a surface and think in a way that will coordinate with the sensor in a way to create friction of energy, and do it in a straight forward action making blunt results more quickly.

Just by allowing an opportunity, and to do it in a way that allows them options that they have never had before, is all they ask for.

Pure coronation of space will do the rest.

Don't worry about them like they have to hurry up and find some light some place.

They will have plenty of time to try this experiment and me others.

They have all the time they need

Right now they don't have anymore options than the people in the movie,

"Honey I shrunk the kids and just about everybody else or something"

It was nice that people like John Denver tried to help this cause with movies like "Oh god", but as you can see, he is missing as well right now.

Sure John liked to find new ways to fly different, and I have no doubt that he would like this opportunity as well, if it was ever offered to him.

i would imagine that there is a lot of people waiting for the opportunity to try this, but regardless how many billion are behind that door of opportunity don't mean a thing unless you open more doors and opportunities to them, than we ever allowed those people at that Who concert in Cincinnati that one time.

I have explain the concept well enough that you understand the just of it.

A machine that communicates with thought

A machine that communicates with thought friction

A Murphy Law of opportunities to try it with, and all the time to focus on it as we move forward in this eden of life.

We still have about the same amount of water that we have always had, and space is still holding it's own, and almost everybody has the opportunity to use their thoughts, and with more research later on in this field might help with that as well.

How hard is it to do this possibility?

Give me a chance to interact with the patients of Braingate.

If you can get our country drilling for oil again over night with our Government, then this free idea concept should be a walk in the park.

Is there a God behind my internal thoughts trying to get us to go the right direction?

We will only know after the free idea concept works.

It God is in this missing place of space as i claim they are, and he is capable of doing the things people with religious thoughts believe he or she is capable of, then we will advance our society to any society in space.

we can build space crafts just for afterlife and send them anywhere in space you would like them to go.

What type of afterlife is qualified for such a task. any one of our missing astronauts.

See that is one good thing about this possibility once it happens we can draw off a wealth of experience from so many people in different fields.

Everything they inform us about is a tip.

There first tip to you is to listen to what is being said in this topic, and do it!

Respect what I am saying and help me make it happen.

No excuses, just start talking to different people until you get results.

If you are out of work. Just ask for the business, because there will be a lot of work after this idea concept happens.

i know this one guy who made it all the way up to supervisor in a company, just by reading the obituaries and seeing a job opening with this company and then applied for it,

Now if he can move up that fast just by taking advantage of a missing person, just imagine how far you can go if you help to find them.

If God was actually directing me toward this possibility, why don't he just go to the staff of BrainGate and get them to do it them self, or better yet. Why not go to the BrainGate patients that are in thought anyway and have them focus on it?

I believe at the right time they will.

Take my advice, regardless if you are healthy or not and don't end up missing in this way.

Paradigm thinking will always allow you this possibility regardless how you feel about it now.

Example:

You can decide to do anything you like, but it is still there.

Fight it to the death but it is still there.

Believe you know it all? It is still there!

Can't comprehend it? Still there!

Made a mistake in the past? We don't care. we would just like to have the opportunity to let you know that we are not missing anymore.

Have we all made mistakes from time to time? Yes, but we have always had the ability to try and fix them.

Please take the time to follow through with your Amber Alert and touch this!

Touch this as we been trying to touch you in any way that we can as far back as we can.

Can afterlife control somebody thoughts, and would they get better at that if they were aloud to interact with us more?

No, you own your inner thoughts. That is your real estate in space, regardless if your are a human or an afterlife.

Each inner thought follows it's own lax to magnets, and space, even though it is not a solid, like magnets you are use too, it is like the magnets in your head now. More of a liquid of space. Evolution of these magnets in your body has helped through out your life, and exactly how it plays a part in all of this will come out once there is more actual open dialog with the right people in science, and what role they will play in this.

One reason this field will expand so quickly will be the wealth of information we will now have in so many different fields.

afterlife is not actually a bi-product of space, because it goes deeper than that, but after we spend more time exploring that field as well, we should be able to find some good visuals in our thoughts for understanding it better.

this topic is now connected to our way of life, and if we actually want to be good Stewart's of this land as so many claim now, then we to allow opportunities like this, regardless of the part time interest groups that might appose it for their own personal gains, or preventing perceived personal loss.

some might feel I have only posted all of this is because i just want this topic to stay on the front page.

Please be patient with those type of people.

Everything in life takes its own amount of time, and this topic is no different.

Thank you for reading my invisible thoughts today with those of your own.

Tim