View Full Version : Loose Changers Call No-Planers "Nuts"
parky76
17th May 2007, 08:51 PM
http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=9241
So. Here's the deal. Over at Loose Change, they refer to the conspiracy theorists who believe that no aircraft actually crashed into the WTC as being "nuts". And if they are not nuts...then their theories are insane, out of wack, crazy, impossible, unrealistic, irrational, etc.
Funny...isn't that what we are saying about them? But when we call them "nuts" or label their theories as being insane, irrational, unrealistic, we are being shills, neo-con boot lickers, sheeple, or even worse....paid agents.
So, my truther friends, is it not hypocritcal for you to call your NPT buddies names when you react so harshly to when you yourselves are called names?
Is it really that different to say that no planes hit the WTC..then to say that no plane hit the Pentagon? Lots of witnesses saw that too.
What the Truthers are basically saying is..."my theory is the TRUTH...all other theories are insane.....only I have the right to call a theory nuts...all else are shills and devil worshippers".
Ah. To be young again.
CHF
17th May 2007, 09:15 PM
The funniest part is that when it comes to the Pentagon the LC boys were no-planers until very recently!
They also used to believe the retarded "pod" theory which is now also "fringe," as well as "Flight 93 landed in Cleveland."
Let's not forget that twoofers considered Judy Wood the best engineer in the world a few month ago. Now anyone who believes her is nuts.
Morgan Reynolds was a "Bush insider." Now he's an outcast.
This is what happens when something/someone is so completely discredited that not even twoofers can handle the stench.
I wonder what will be the next twoofer talking point to be labelled "crazy" or "disinfo"...
So many to choose from.
T.A.M.
17th May 2007, 09:55 PM
Next one to be labeled Disinfo will likely be DRG. Though he lacks contraversy wrt views of 9/11 within the twoofer community, DRG is so easily debunked, that his sham will not last long.
just a guess.
TAM:)
LashL
17th May 2007, 10:20 PM
The funniest part is that when it comes to the Pentagon the LC boys were no-planers until very recently!
They also used to believe the retarded "pod" theory which is now also "fringe," as well as "Flight 93 landed in Cleveland."
Let's not forget that twoofers considered Judy Wood the best engineer in the world a few month ago. Now anyone who believes her is nuts.
Morgan Reynolds was a "Bush insider." Now he's an outcast.
This is what happens when something/someone is so completely discredited that not even twoofers can handle the stench.
I wonder what will be the next twoofer talking point to be labelled "crazy" or "disinfo"...
So many to choose from.
Bang on, on all counts.
MelBrooksfan
17th May 2007, 10:21 PM
"Hello. Kettle?"
"Yes?"
"This is the Pot. Just thought you should know that you're black."
orphia nay
17th May 2007, 10:33 PM
I wonder how long it will take The Movemunt (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=munt) to realise that Steven Jones doesn't have any proof of thermite.
Brainster
17th May 2007, 11:32 PM
Yes, this is the amusing thing about the "Gatekeeper" complaints about the far left in America (the Nation, Chomsky, Counterpunch, Democracy Now, etc.) not giving the Deniers any positive press despite their obvious presence in their midst, while at the same time the Deniers bar the gate to the No-Planers.
Thinking about this in the other direction leads me to the conclusion that the 9-11 Denial movement is growing more sane by the day. Think about the early folks in the movement, they were all notably nutty--Jimmy Walters in his "Mission Accomplished" suit, Eric Hufschmid with his Zionist theories, etc. I don't like to pick on Nico, but even his friends think he's a madman.
So what happens? They start researching and making wild claims and somebody a little less crazy (relatively mind you) like David Ray Griffin, begins to pick up on it. But the saner ones come at a cost, the wilder theories begin to get pushed onto the fringe, and marginalized.
And then the third generation comes along. Note: Loose Change itself is strictly second generation, but Dylan himself has become third generation, embracing even LIHTI (Through Incompetence) in a desperation attempt to maintain some credibility. And the wilder stuff among the second generation begins to get pushed aside.
Now, here's the problem; if you go to LIHTI, you can't have a movement. There's a word for people who think Bush is incompetent: Democrats.
LashL
18th May 2007, 12:08 AM
Loose Changers call everybody and anybody nuts at one point or another, depending upon weather charts and the colour of their grandfathers' pajamas.
They just fail to recognize that, no, it isn't the "rest of the world" that is crazy.
boloboffin
18th May 2007, 12:18 AM
Now, here's the problem; if you go to LIHTI, you can't have a movement. There's a word for people who think Bush is incompetent: Democrats.
Funny. I would have said "sighted."
PhantomWolf
18th May 2007, 12:30 AM
Funny. I would have said "sighted."
I don't know, I think that's being unfair to people with white canes and guide dogs.
knot
18th May 2007, 01:00 AM
We've got a loose can of assorted nuts.
sivazh
20th May 2007, 06:48 AM
Wait? What? Avery and Bermas now think that a plane DID hit The Pentagon? Have they given up the missle theory?
Man, I can't wait to see LC: The Final Frontier. I still giggle every time I think back to the first edition and hear Avery's little voice saying "Wait, did you see that? The plane fires a missle a nanosecond before it slams into the tower" or something to that effect.
Foolmewunz
20th May 2007, 07:46 AM
<snip>
Thinking about this in the other direction leads me to the conclusion that the 9-11 Denial movement is growing more sane by the day. Think about the early folks in the movement, they were all notably nutty--Jimmy Walters in his "Mission Accomplished" suit,.... <snip>
Awww, Jimmy Walters! I just watched the original Deniers Speak again. What lovely lunacy! In his helmet and flight suit and flapping his wings and clucking like a chicken! This is a guy who blew two million bucks on ads, and was the darling of the "movement" until they realized he was a total whackjob. Ah, nostalgia!
Undesired Walrus
20th May 2007, 08:03 AM
Wait? What? Avery and Bermas now think that a plane DID hit The Pentagon? Have they given up the missle theory?
Judging by the the bermas-brainstar interview, I wouldnt be so sure.
Man, I can't wait to see LC: The Final Frontier. I still giggle every time I think back to the first edition and hear Avery's little voice saying "Wait, did you see that? The plane fires a missle a nanosecond before it slams into the tower" or something to that effect.
It was "Wow wow wow wow. Bring it back." 'It' was a plane loaded with around 50 people that had only seconds from destruction. Nice Avery...real nice.
Mobyseven
20th May 2007, 08:28 AM
Yes, this is the amusing thing about the "Gatekeeper" complaints about the far left in America (the Nation, Chomsky, Counterpunch, Democracy Now, etc.) not giving the Deniers any positive press despite their obvious presence in their midst, while at the same time the Deniers bar the gate to the No-Planers.
Thinking about this in the other direction leads me to the conclusion that the 9-11 Denial movement is growing more sane by the day. Think about the early folks in the movement, they were all notably nutty--Jimmy Walters in his "Mission Accomplished" suit, Eric Hufschmid with his Zionist theories, etc. I don't like to pick on Nico, but even his friends think he's a madman.
So what happens? They start researching and making wild claims and somebody a little less crazy (relatively mind you) like David Ray Griffin, begins to pick up on it. But the saner ones come at a cost, the wilder theories begin to get pushed onto the fringe, and marginalized.
And then the third generation comes along. Note: Loose Change itself is strictly second generation, but Dylan himself has become third generation, embracing even LIHTI (Through Incompetence) in a desperation attempt to maintain some credibility. And the wilder stuff among the second generation begins to get pushed aside.
Now, here's the problem; if you go to LIHTI, you can't have a movement. There's a word for people who think Bush is incompetent: Democrats.
Nominated.
sivazh
20th May 2007, 05:46 PM
It was "Wow wow wow wow. Bring it back." 'It' was a plane loaded with around 50 people that had only seconds from destruction. Nice Avery...real nice.
I just had to go watch it again. Always good for a laugh.
He does say "Whoa, whoa, whoa, bring it back."
But then he says, "Did you catch that? A missle is fired seconds before impact."
He showed his compassion in the first lines of the video when he says while examining the footage of the first impact, "It may not look like much." No, Dylan, it looks like a lot of people dying in a plane crash. Maybe someday you will understand that.
How the Hell did this thing get beyond YouTube? When he admitted he was making a fictional movie, and then just happened to stumble upon the fact that 9/11 really WAS an inside job, why wasn't that the end of the argument?
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