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CHF
17th May 2007, 10:37 PM
We've all seen the pictures of the WTC columns buckling prior to collapse - clearly being pulled inward at the exact area where collapse begins.
http://debunking911.com/sag.htm
I've never seen a twoofer explain how this could have been done by demolition charges or thermite.
Are there any out there who wanna take a crack at it?
Arus808
17th May 2007, 10:38 PM
i've never seen it being addressed by anyone. on all the forums i've visited, they seem to remain silent when confronted with that image.
3bodyproblem
17th May 2007, 10:43 PM
"Finite Element Analysis Which Proves There Was a Nuke in the Basement" guy kinda implies there were thermite charges that cut the columns.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hwSHIewJRg&mode=user&search=
gumboot
17th May 2007, 10:45 PM
The simple answer is they don't. Truthers generally go clamshell when faced with facts.
-Gumboot
3bodyproblem
17th May 2007, 10:49 PM
no shooting the messenger! i can't begin to tell you what's wrong with that, but whatever. You asked to peer into the mind of the "twoofer"
steve s
17th May 2007, 10:52 PM
I've seen them claim that the buckling is an optical distortion caused by the heat. :eek:
Steve S.
CHF
17th May 2007, 10:53 PM
I think the mini-nukes is a fringe theory among the twoofer ranks. Any idea what the "mainsteam" says?
Has Stephen Jones or DR Griffin commented on it?
It is, after all, the collapse mechanism according to those shills at NIST. I would expect twoofers to make that a top priority target.
defaultdotxbe
17th May 2007, 10:58 PM
was it 28th kingdom...or maybe pdoh said it was an optical illusion
Redtail
17th May 2007, 10:58 PM
A wizard did it.
CHF
17th May 2007, 11:08 PM
There must be some of you twoofers reading this. I encourage all of you to try and address this issue.
If you can explain away or debunk visual evidence of NIST's collapse mechanism or explain how it fits in with a demolition...well, I for one will be very impressed.
3bodyproblem
17th May 2007, 11:24 PM
oh CHF, i think you misunderstood me, he said it was Nukes and thermite. :)
uk_dave
17th May 2007, 11:25 PM
Now come on this is easy.
The explosive charges were set on the connection of the floor trusses with the interior core columns. The remaining floor was still attached to the exterior columns but since it was now only supported at that end it pivoted around the connection with the columns, thus causing them to bow inwards.
ETA:
I would have used a 'see-saw' analogy but that was first proposed by a fellow truther who has since been discredited and is considered a 'non-person' (probably also for tax reasons)
CHF
17th May 2007, 11:32 PM
Now come on this is easy.
The explosive charges were set on the connection of the floor trusses with the interior core columns. The remaining floor was still attached to the exterior columns but since it was now only supported at that end it pivoted around the connection with the columns, thus causing them to bow inwards.
A fine effort indeed.
Just to clarify...the planes slammed into the buildings at the exact place where these charges were, and all the charges survived allowing for columns to be pulled inward along the entire facade?
A few holes in that theory but it's the best twoofer-style explanation I've seen to date. ;)
Pardalis
17th May 2007, 11:38 PM
I think I remember 28th Kingdom saying it was somekind of optical illusion... or something. :boggled:
http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p=2189093&postcount=567
CHF
17th May 2007, 11:46 PM
I think I remember 28th Kingdom saying it was somekind of optical illusion... or something. :boggled:
http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p=2189093&postcount=567
Wow :eek:
The Silver Shadow
18th May 2007, 07:26 AM
The big bad gubmint must've used material distorting rays from the ground, emitted from black vans parked near the WTC. When the buildings collapsed, the rays got crushed and were instantly teleported back to NWO base in Nebraska therefore leaving no evidence!
I should start writing stories...
Mancman
18th May 2007, 07:53 AM
Truthers often claim that it is only the aluminum facing that is bowing, not the steel columns.
Of course they ignore that the aluminum was directly attached to the steel.
JonnyFive
18th May 2007, 07:58 AM
I think I remember 28th Kingdom saying it was somekind of optical illusion... or something. :boggled:
28th Kingdom is... special.
Generally, the "mainstream" troofers seem to ignore the issue entirely, like many, many elements of the collapse that don't support their insane interesting ideas.
When pushed, they seem to resort to claims that are essentially "we don't know, so magic." No explosions heard? Thermite! Columns bowed inward? Thermite! Thermite can't be used to easily cut a beam sideways without thousands of bulky devices that would've been destroyed by the plane crash anyway (and even then it probably wouldn't happen)? Magic thermite! No one has magic thermite? The government does, they have every piece of magical magic technology that we can imagine!
Mr. Skinny
18th May 2007, 02:12 PM
I think the "buckling" was simply deformation of the outer skin caused by the Directed Energy Weapon. :D
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