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Ladewig
27th May 2007, 08:21 PM
Link (http://www.witchvox.com/whs/dt_whs.html?aid=cabc&id=10077) to list of articles (at bottom of page) demonstrating how (witch) J.K. Rowling is leading children away from God and toward Satan. Also some articles criticizing Pokemon and D&D.
We live in the 21st century and people in industrialized countries cannot distinguish between fiction and reality. As Mark Twain once said, "There are times when one would like to hang the whole human race, and finish the farce."
The Great Hairy One
27th May 2007, 10:08 PM
I always laugh whenever I see christians attacking Lord of the Rings and JRRT, considering how chrisitian JRRT himself was, and how many christian themes he wrapped into the books.
I think some of those other links are quite amusing, too. Apparently Caspar the Friendly Ghost is owned by Satan... :D
Cheers,
TGHO
Fronzel
28th May 2007, 02:45 AM
I think they would grab onto anything that is popular and sell books about how it is leading your kids to worship the evil dark lord. Just about anything could be construed as Not Godly.
He-Man is the work of the Devil (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZjC1vw2nSY&eurl=). Which ruins my whole religious philosophy of asking "What would He-Man Do?".
Ryan O'Dine
28th May 2007, 06:45 AM
Personally, I was turned toward Satanism by reading The Lion, The Witch and the Wardrobe.
Ichneumonwasp
28th May 2007, 07:40 AM
What are these idiots going to do when the series finishes with Harry sacrificing himself in good Jesus fashion?
Some people never learned to read, did they?
MelBrooksfan
28th May 2007, 08:11 AM
Of all the hundreds of popular fantasy out there, Harry Potter gets the most flack. Personally, I think it's because it's gotten kids into reading.
The Great Hairy One
28th May 2007, 04:41 PM
Of all the hundreds of popular fantasy out there, Harry Potter gets the most flack. Personally, I think it's because it's gotten kids into reading.
Yeah, and you know where that leads!!!
Thinking!! ZOMG, we can't have children thinking!!!
Cheers,
TGHO
gtc
28th May 2007, 05:29 PM
Wait, Harry Potter isn't Satan?
You mean I've been sacrificing goats to Our Dark Master Lord Harry for nothing.
Solus
28th May 2007, 05:51 PM
Yeah, and you know where that leads!!!
Thinking!! ZOMG, we can't have children thinking!!!
Cheers,
TGHO
Bob, forbid the children actually start reading "holy texts" on their without the proper guidance. Who knows what kind of chaos that would lead to if christians and others actually read their own holy books. :boxedin:
Beerina
30th May 2007, 07:23 AM
Link (http://www.witchvox.com/whs/dt_whs.html?aid=cabc&id=10077) to list of articles (at bottom of page) demonstrating how (witch) J.K. Rowling is leading children away from God and toward Satan.
Why do people blame Satan anyway? It's God who throws you into Hell. He's the bastard here.
Given death would be better than unending agony, which is the ultimate destination for the vast majority of people who ever lived (according to the Bible), then the fact that God exists, and rules as He does is an unmitigated disaster and pox on existence, and tragedy the order of which beggars description.
Surely the most pious of the religious must admit to this! As John Lenon said, "Imagine no heaven. No Hell below us. Above us, only sky."
Surely even the most religious would admit that would be a better state for everyone than for the terrorist Yahweh to actually exist!
JonnyFive
30th May 2007, 07:32 AM
You know that Pokemon is doubly evil, as it not only teaches children occultism, but also the evils of evolution!
Fear the Pokemen! They will destroy our world!
bluess
30th May 2007, 07:58 AM
They already have - and we are the damned living in the new world populated by Digimon!
(Sigh, yes, I have a pre-teen.)
aggle-rithm
30th May 2007, 08:11 AM
Surely even the most religious would admit that would be a better state for everyone than for the terrorist Yahweh to actually exist!
You're forgetting about all the comfort that belief in life after death gives them. Life may suck, but at least it's eternal!
Tanstaafl
30th May 2007, 08:35 AM
What are these idiots going to do when the series finishes with Harry sacrificing himself in good Jesus fashion?
Some people never learned to read, did they?
Sure they can read, they just never learned to think!
The Great Hairy One
30th May 2007, 07:09 PM
They already have - and we are the damned living in the new world populated by Digimon!
(Sigh, yes, I have a pre-teen.)
I sympathise, I have one too. Mine prefers Yu-Gi-Oh, however, which is infinitely more evil than Digimon.
Cheers,
TGHO
Cactus Wren
31st May 2007, 10:11 PM
Why do people blame Satan anyway? It's God who throws you into Hell. He's the bastard here.
Given death would be better than unending agony, which is the ultimate destination for the vast majority of people who ever lived (according to the Bible), then the fact that God exists, and rules as He does is an unmitigated disaster and pox on existence, and tragedy the order of which beggars description.
Surely the most pious of the religious must admit to this! As John Lenon said, "Imagine no heaven. No Hell below us. Above us, only sky."
Surely even the most religious would admit that would be a better state for everyone than for the terrorist Yahweh to actually exist!
I got into this in another forum with a character I came to think of as my very own pet Calvinist. He genuinely believed that damnation for the overwhelming majority of humans who have ever lived was a fair price for his own existence. His argument was, "But this is the way God set it up. Would you rather nobody got to live and go to Heaven?" And when I said yes -- that I would gladly relinquish existence, relinquish ever having had existed, in exchange for the assurance that no thinking being would be consigned to eternal torment -- he couldn't understand what I was saying.
I did manage to back him into a corner, somewhat, on the "free will" argument. At first he argued that there was no such thing as human free will -- that everything we do and think was dictated by God at the beginning of the universe. So no human being could choose to turn to God unless God had dictated that he so turn (and yet that failure to turn to God merited infinite punishment).
The problem is that there are huge numbers of people who think that they're "saved", that they're among the "elect", who -- in my interlocutor's belief -- are damned. That's where I felt the mousetrap in my mind snap shut. Okay ... so they think they're saved, but that thought did not arise by their free will, because that's a trait they don't have. God made them believe they're saved when they weren't. God made them think they would be in Heaven with him.
So ... you're saying God is a liar, then?
At this point, my interlocutor dropped out of the discussion for a couple of days, long enough for the thread to be bumped off the forum queue, and then showed up saying that he didn't know what degree of free will human beings had (except that he was still certain they did not have the capacity to turn to God unless God had chosen them to).
I'm still hoping for a chance to try and pin him down on whether God has free will or not.
Marquis de Carabas
31st May 2007, 10:17 PM
The Christians have a point. I don't necessarily believe Rowling is purposefully leading children to witchcraft and satanism, but that will nevertheless be the result of her writings. Nobody stood up and protested Dr Seuss, and now we have a world full of people who dress their cats up in ridiculous f:Dking costumes. It has to stop somewhere.
ond_magiker
1st June 2007, 03:10 AM
I think they would grab onto anything that is popular and sell books about how it is leading your kids to worship the evil dark lord. Just about anything could be construed as Not Godly.
He-Man is the work of the Devil (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZjC1vw2nSY&eurl=). Which ruins my whole religious philosophy of asking "What would He-Man Do?".
That was awesome. The guy with the mustache seemed to really like playing with the toys. He got really into the speaking with an 'occultic' voice thing :D
Fronzel
1st June 2007, 10:35 AM
That was awesome. The guy with the mustache seemed to really like playing with the toys. He got really into the speaking with an 'occultic' voice thing :D
I've found more. Voltron is Satan! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuFhGR4QDd4) So are Transformers, Thundercats, Rock music and just about every other fun thing.
Apparently, it is all from a book.
JonnyFive
1st June 2007, 10:46 AM
I've found more. Voltron is Satan! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuFhGR4QDd4) So are Transformers, Thundercats, Rock music and just about every other fun thing.
Apparently, it is all from a book.
It's simple, really:
Fun = Satan
Boring = God
Plain hats, for example, are Godly. Funny hats, by way of contrast, are Satanic.
Pokemon is Satanic. Sitting quietly and contemplating your inevitable damnation is Godly.
ponderingturtle
1st June 2007, 11:38 AM
Of all the hundreds of popular fantasy out there, Harry Potter gets the most flack. Personally, I think it's because it's gotten kids into reading.
Well it gets the flack because of its incredible popularity.
pgwenthold
1st June 2007, 11:43 AM
I got into this in another forum with a character I came to think of as my very own pet Calvinist. He genuinely believed that damnation for the overwhelming majority of humans who have ever lived was a fair price for his own existence. His argument was, "But this is the way God set it up. Would you rather nobody got to live and go to Heaven?" And when I said yes -- that I would gladly relinquish existence, relinquish ever having had existed, in exchange for the assurance that no thinking being would be consigned to eternal torment -- he couldn't understand what I was saying.
Oooh, that's an evil thing to do. Challenge the notion of the "gift of life."
Is it really the case that living is better than not living at all? This is the epitome to me as apples and oranges. Actually, it's not even close to being apples and oranges. It's more like apples and moonrocks. They are incomparable (more or less the comparison is undefined).
But as you note, religious people can't comprehend the idea that life is not necessarily a "gift."
Would it really be worse had you never been born? You wouldn't be around to even miss it in the first place, so how is that worse?
Piscivore
1st June 2007, 11:50 AM
They already have - and we are the damned living in the new world populated by Digimon!
(Sigh, yes, I have a pre-teen.)
Me too. I absolutley refused to let them have anything to do with Yugio or Digimon. Instead, last weekend I introduced them to the early work of Sam Rami and Bruce Campbell.
However, despite my wishes my daughter is active on Neopets.
Ladewig
1st June 2007, 12:40 PM
It's simple, really:
Fun = Satan
Boring = God
Oh yeah? Well, if that were true, Mr. JonnyFive, then the Bible Game (http://www.cravegames.com/games/biblegame/index.html) for XBox and PlayStation 2 would be boring.
Oh, wait a minute - it is boring.
Um, nevermind.
JonnyFive
1st June 2007, 01:11 PM
Oh yeah? Well, if that were true, Mr. JonnyFive, then the Bible Game (http://www.cravegames.com/games/biblegame/index.html) for XBox and PlayStation 2 would be boring.
Oh, wait a minute - it is boring.
Um, nevermind.
My theories are air tight.
By the way, when it comes to ironic fun (like reading Jack Chick comics for the hilarity), the fun itself is Satanic, even if the source material is Godly.
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