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a_unique_person
11th February 2003, 04:00 AM
This (http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2003/02/10/1044725732734.html) article shows how the situation in afghanistan is anything but solved. the whole region is still destabilised, but the US has killed a few taliban and left.

The pictures of the noble 'Northern Alliance' striding off to victory are no longer appearing in the Murdoch Press.

aerocontrols
11th February 2003, 04:07 AM
Originally posted by a_unique_person
This (http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2003/02/10/1044725732734.html) article shows how the situation in afghanistan is anything but solved. the whole region is still destabilised, but the US has killed a few taliban and left.

The pictures of the noble 'Northern Alliance' striding off to victory are no longer appearing in the Murdoch Press.

The US has left? When did this happen?

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/ISL14198

http://www.boston.com/dailyglobe2/029/nation/US_troops_press_Afghanistan_fight+.shtml

I appreciate your confidence in US capabilities, but I don't remember anyone saying that there would be peace and stability in Afghanistan by Feb, 2003.

I distinctly remember hearing that it would be a matter of years.

(US trooops are still in Bosnia, too, by the way. And Germany.)

a_unique_person
11th February 2003, 04:14 AM
Originally posted by aerocontrols


The US has left? When did this happen?

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/ISL14198

http://www.boston.com/dailyglobe2/029/nation/US_troops_press_Afghanistan_fight+.shtml

I appreciate your confidence in US capabilities, but I don't remember anyone saying that there would be peace and stability in Afghanistan by Feb, 2003.

I distinctly remember hearing that it would be a matter of years.

(US trooops are still in Bosnia, too, by the way. And Germany.)

apparently tailing the taliban remnants, while the rest of the country is undergoing the death of a thousand cuts.

And Germany must find them very helpful in deterring an attack by....., ummm.....

Skeptic
11th February 2003, 04:22 AM
Will you make up your mind???

If the US doesn't intervene, people get all annoyed that it "sits by and lets such evils happen." If the US intervenes and STAYS to make sure things work out, every shouts "the US had just began another prolonged Vietnam conflict". If the US intervenes and leaves, people whine that the US "left a job half done".

Obviously, it doesn't matter what the US does, you'll blame it. Ah well.

P.S.

You mean to say that the situation in Afghanistan, a country in constant civil war for the last 30 years and one of the poorest nations in the world, was NOT solved completely after a few months of US intervention?

I', shocked, SHOKED, I tell 'ya.

demon
11th February 2003, 04:40 AM
Ask the Afghanistan women if things are better. Their movement explicitly states they are not.
It`s been abandoned like was expected.
We got a new "president " in there? He`s doing good? That`s why he can`t walk around without an American bodyguard?.

"You mean to say that the situation in Afghanistan, a country in constant civil war for the last 30 years and one of the poorest nations in the world, was NOT solved completely after a few months of US intervention?"

You serious?

iain
11th February 2003, 05:24 AM
Originally posted by Skeptic
Will you make up your mind???

If the US doesn't intervene, people get all annoyed that it "sits by and lets such evils happen." If the US intervenes and STAYS to make sure things work out, every shouts "the US had just began another prolonged Vietnam conflict". If the US intervenes and leaves, people whine that the US "left a job half done".

Obviously, it doesn't matter what the US does, you'll blame it. Ah well. Having decided to go into Afghanistan, the international community has some sort of duty to support the country through aid, peace-keeping troops etc. Western nations have a long history of running away when things get difficult (not just the US, many European nations are just as guilty).

You're right that some people interpret things as the US always being wrong; but that doesn't mean that the US is in reality always right.

My question is not whether Afghanistan is now a perfect, peaceful democracy but whether it is moving in the right direction and receiving the support it needs from foreign powers to continue moving.

Iwentsouth
11th February 2003, 05:33 AM
Originally posted by iain
Having decided to go into Afghanistan, the international community has some sort of duty to support the country through aid, peace-keeping troops etc. Western nations have a long history of running away when things get difficult (not just the US, many European nations are just as guilty).

You're right that some people interpret things as the US always being wrong; but that doesn't mean that the US is in reality always right.

My question is not whether Afghanistan is now a perfect, peaceful democracy but whether it is moving in the right direction and receiving the support it needs from foreign powers to continue moving.

We have already spent almost one billion in in aid for Afghanistan. We will be spending more. That is just the US. Now sure what the European countrys and others doing.