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Unabogie
4th June 2007, 08:25 PM
http://www.azonano.com/news.asp?newsID=1326

The new technique combines two previously known methods for producing hydrogen. The previous methods have limitations making them impractical when used alone, but those drawbacks are overcome when the methods are combined, Varma said.

One of the methods was invented by Herbert C. Brown, a chemist and Nobel laureate from Purdue who discovered a compound called sodium borohydride during World War II. The compound contains sodium, boron and hydrogen. He later developed a technique for producing hydrogen by combining sodium borohydride with water and a catalyst. The method, however, has a major drawback because it requires expensive catalysts such as ruthenium.

The other method involves a chemical reaction in which tiny particles of aluminum are combined with water in such a way that the aluminum ignites, releasing hydrogen during the combustion process. This method does not require an expensive catalyst, but it yields insufficient quantities of hydrogen to be practical for fuel cell applications.

"Our solution is to combine both methods by using what we call a triple borohydride-metal-water mixture, which does not require a catalyst and has a high enough hydrogen yield to make the method promising for fuel cell applications," Varma said. "So far we have shown in experiments that we can convert 6.7 percent of the mixture to hydrogen, which means that for every 100 grams of mixture we can produce nearly 7 grams of hydrogen, and that yield is already better than alternative methods on the market."
Anyone know more about this?

robinson
4th June 2007, 10:08 PM
Yes.

Darth Rotor
5th June 2007, 08:02 AM
If you can't say *censored* then how can you say, " *censored* the Government?" .
I wouldn't *censored* them with yours. ;)

DR

The Central Scrutinizer
5th June 2007, 08:44 AM
Yes.

I agree.

Unabogie
5th June 2007, 09:09 AM
Damn. I should have started my thread with "John Edwards got a haircut from Ahmadinejad while Hillary watched, but suddenly Dick Cheney shot his lesbian daughter's wife in the face, followed by a fuel cell breakthrough".

Then watched the sparks fyl!

marksman
5th June 2007, 09:23 AM
I hope this works.

Unabogie
5th June 2007, 09:28 AM
I hope this works.

Which, the new fuel cells or my grand scheme to jump start my thread?

Schneibster
5th June 2007, 11:33 AM
Looks promising for portable electronics, and if it's practical for spacecraft as the article says later on, it might turn out to be practical for automobiles. The big question is if it's efficient enough to be worthwhile. Right now, it's probably not.

mhaze
5th June 2007, 03:19 PM
http://www.azonano.com/news.asp?newsID=1326

Anyone know more about this?

Very small diameter AL powder is explosive, and is regulated as such. Not going to see it being sold in stores.

Charlie in Dayton
5th June 2007, 03:22 PM
Check this one out...

http://www.ultracellpower.com/

I get to pfutz around with one in a couple weeks...someone working for the company is bringing one to Field Day, where we'll hook it up to a low power (10 w>) HF transmitter and play radio for a weekend. According to specs, it should run all weekend on a quart of alcohol.

This will be exxxxxxxxxxtremely interesting...

robinson
5th June 2007, 05:40 PM
http://www.physorg.com/news98556080.html

Using aluminum to make hydrogen from water isn't anything new. Doing it in a cost effective manner is.

Blue Monk
5th June 2007, 05:56 PM
Check this one out...

http://www.ultracellpower.com/

I get to pfutz around with one in a couple weeks...someone working for the company is bringing one to Field Day, where we'll hook it up to a low power (10 w>) HF transmitter and play radio for a weekend. According to specs, it should run all weekend on a quart of alcohol.

This will be exxxxxxxxxxtremely interesting...

Big deal.

I manage to run most every weekend on a quart of alcohol.

Rob Lister
5th June 2007, 06:11 PM
what a weird thread. did a bunch of posts get removed?

robinson
5th June 2007, 07:23 PM
You must be new here, right?