David Icke

[onemind]

What the?

[Mobyseven]

That's pretty much the same reaction I had to him. Well, before I realised that the Reptiles were our last and only line of defense against the Grays!

[Wolverine]

Yep (http://skepdic.com/illuminati.html). Did you manage to somehow avoid his lunacy until now? If so, well done.

[Henry Crun]

Isn´t it nearly unbelievable John Carpenter made his movie "They Live" some years before David got his awakening?
Some guys really shouldn´t watch these kind of movies - may give some bad dreams.
Maybe there are ghosts on Mars too...

***

Once I had, a little game
I liked to crawl back into my brain
I think you know the game I mean
I mean the game called 'go insane'


Jim Morrison, The Celebration of the Lizard

[Björn Toulouse]

Isn´t it nearly unbelievable John Carpenter made his movie "They Live" some years before David got his awakening?
Some guys really shouldn´t watch these kind of movies - may give some bad dreams.
Maybe there are ghosts on Mars too...

***

Once I had, a little game
I liked to crawl back into my brain
I think you know the game I mean
I mean the game called 'go insane'


Jim Morrison, The Celebration of the Lizard





Also, the TV mini-series, V, in 1983.

[negativ]

That's pretty much the same reaction I had to him. Well, before I realised that the Reptiles were our last and only line of defense against the Grays!

I thought the Grays were sort of like sub-contractors to the Reptoids?

:confused:

I've been away from the UFO stuff for too long.

Ahh, those were the days.

[Arkan_Wolfshade]

And to think, The History Channel interviews him on their special about the Knights Templar.

[Civilized Worm]

Isn´t it nearly unbelievable John Carpenter made his movie "They Live" some years before David got his awakening?
Some guys really shouldn´t watch these kind of movies - may give some bad dreams.
Maybe there are ghosts on Mars too...


Henreeee! There's somebody knocking at the door!

[Jono]

Icke is more than somewhat unique, even by using the yardstick commonly applied toward the garden variety conspiracy theorist, as he seriously purports people to be actual transformers from reptilian specimens to humanoid ones.

To circumvent this bit of oddity that signifies the contenta of mr. Icke's claims, a few of his supporters/fans have (in my own experience) tried to interpret his views/claims/assertions as metaphorical. Furthermore, I've heard retorts that Icke's essential message about reptilian transformers is just that, allegorical.

This might sound plausible, had you not actually heard the man speak yourself, or read his writings.

[Henry Crun]

Thank you, Minn of mine, but there`s somebody knocking on the door...

[calebprime]

no, nothing allegorical. I picked up one of his books, Children of the Matrix for a buck at the local library sale. There's nothing there to support that he has a sense of humor.

I can only read a few pages at a time.

(Amateur neurologist mode: I keep scanning his picture, thinking I see signs of asymmetry in his face--suggesting some head trauma or TLE. :D )

http://neurology.org/cgi/content/abstract/27/2/109

[zooterkin]

(Amateur neurologist mode: I keep scanning his picture, thinking I see signs of asymmetry in his face--suggesting some head trauma or TLE. :D )

http://neurology.org/cgi/content/abstract/27/2/109

Well, he used to be a professional football goalkeeper, so it's not unlikely. He was a TV presenter, mostly on sport for the BBC, for a while after he retired from that (at only 21) before he went loopy.

[defaultdotxbe]

That's pretty much the same reaction I had to him. Well, before I realised that the Reptiles were our last and only line of defense against the Grays!

I thought the Grays were sort of like sub-contractors to the Reptoids?

:confused:

I've been away from the UFO stuff for too long.

Ahh, those were the days.
yeah, last i heard the grays were working fo rthe reptoids in collecting humans for the reptoids to eat, it was on the internet, so it must be true

[Liszt]

Icke doesn´t talk much about the reptiles any more, he´s replaced it with some metaphysics and quantum physics (which is actually quite valid in some cases)

There was some documentary when he said that the crowd would be dissapointed that he has changed his stuff.

If you look at the drawings (not photos!) of lizards in his books, they look identical to the ones in V. remember that the aliens in V came from Sirius? Well, so do Icke´s! bonkers.

[Hyperviolet]

David Icke is an ex-football (soccer) goalkeeper, turned pundit, turned nutcase.

He famously announced on the Wogan show that he was, in fact, the son of god. Ridiculed, he retreated into obscurity for a few years. Only to return to the public eye : 'enlightened.' He makes many claims about how Tony Blair, The Queen, Lord Rothschild and David Rockefellar are 'reptillian humanoids.' That is, shapeshifting reptiles who live in the core of the earth. He knows all the satanic bloodlines and has a cult following. He does not, curiously, provide any proof for his far out claims other than the occasional "well when backpacking in the Congo a man told me he saw a shape shifting reptile"

Amazingly, his books sell far and wide and sells out theatres when performing a lecture.

The mind boogles.

[Civilized Worm]

I guarantee you that David Icke doesn't have a clue what quantum mechanics is about.


Thank you, Minn of mine, but there`s somebody knocking on the door...


I can't hear you Henry there's somebody knocking at the door!

[Liszt]

He is a Zulu (Icke´s friend, not Icke)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Credo_Mutwa

[maccy]

Icke was a TV Sports presenter (and former footballer) who detoured into politics (he was a speaker for the Green Party for a while). In 1991, he had what I'm guessing is a breakdown and became convinced that divinity was flowing through him. Because he was already a semi-celebrity he was able to appear on a primetime chatshow (Wogan). As a result of his appearance he became a national laughing stock. Instead of seeking help for his mental health issues he rationalised this experience into further delusions of an Illuminati-controlled media attempting to destroy him, the rest of his crazy ideas are just extrapolated from that.

He was recently re-interviewed by Terry Wogan (includes some of the original interview):

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Also, Jon Ronson made an excellent documentary about him:

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[Pardalis]

Icky. :scared:

[Childlike Empress]

I'm jealous of David Icke. He has managed a thing that for most human beeings is a huge problem: "what do the other people think of me". He was forced to get rid of it because he had his "outcoming" in public on the Wogan Show, beeing a well known sports presenter. Whole UK laughed at him, not with him.

The Lizard stuff came later and it was only a facet of his "i report everything i come across" attitude. It's not the core of his message. The core is the way he thinks reality is working. I think his best speech was this, "Robots Rebellion" from 1994:

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I dont't subscribe to all of his "conspiracy" stuff but i subscribe to his cosmogony. Hard to swallow for fundamentalist materialists. But at least he is one of very few Conspiracy Theorists who aren't christian fundamentalists.

[Dr. Lao]

I love David Icke.

Its always a litmus test to see if the kooks are just kooks, or if they are dangerous psychotic flaming nutcases.

If they believe Ickie, they are the flaming nutcases.


When kooks think you are kooky...well....

[Pardalis]

I dont't subscribe to all of his "conspiracy" stuff but i subscribe to his cosmogony.

We call it woo woo for short.

[Childlike Empress]

I know.

[R.Mackey]

The Truther's Maxim: "Anyone who believes in fewer CT's than I is a sheep. Anyone who believes in more is disinfo."

Apologies to George Carlin (http://www.digitaldreamdoor.com/pages/quotes/george_carlin.html).

[Civilized Worm]

Hahahahaha! No wonder you've been so cautious about disclosing your beliefs CE!

I have to say I'm not familiar with Icke's cosmogony, could you sum it up for me?

[Childlike Empress]

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[Macoy]

I have to say I'm not familiar with Icke's cosmogony, could you sum it up for me?

Your wife & your secretary "assist" you & of course they love each other too.

[Civilized Worm]

What?


Why did i disclose it now while i was so secretive about it before? Perhaps it's only in your mind, Worm.


How should I know? Are you going to tell me what you like about Icke's cosmogony or are you back to being secretive?

[Childlike Empress]

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[The Pig]

To circumvent this bit of oddity that signifies the contenta of mr. Icke's claims, a few of his supporters/fans have (in my own experience) tried to interpret his views/claims/assertions as metaphorical. Furthermore, I've heard retorts that Icke's essential message about reptilian transformers is just that, allegorical.

This might sound plausible, had you not actually heard the man speak yourself, or read his writings.

I agree; right or wrong he says it as he sees it. He makes specific accusations and names names; the Queen, Bush Snr, Randi, Brian Mulroney etc. The idea that he's using metaphor is laughable.

Does he have a good lawyer?

[Pardalis]

...

You're cute when you're angry.

[LashL]

I love David Icke.

Its always a litmus test to see if the kooks are just kooks, or if they are dangerous psychotic flaming nutcases.

If they believe Ickie, they are the flaming nutcases.


When kooks think you are kooky...well....

Good point! And it's nice to know that even Icke, therefore, serves some useful purpose :)

[Civilized Worm]

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Well that settles that then.

[Ryokan]

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n135/Ryokan76/Icke.jpg

This picture was taken at a local public toilet, in Norway! I didn't even know anyone around here had heard about him!

ETA: Tiss means peepee.

[Gord_in_Toronto]

I think I met Mr Icke recently.


















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[Carnivore]

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n135/Ryokan76/Icke.jpg

This picture was taken at a local public toilet, in Norway! I didn't even know anyone around here had heard about him!

ETA: Tiss means peepee.

According to DI's Wikipedia entry, that's a lyric from the song "bowl of flies" by the band Leatherface.

My personal favourite Icke accused vampiric shape shifting interdimensional space lizard: country musician Boxcar Willie.

[Apollo20]

Well, one look at the QUEEN and I think Icke is onto something!

[Dr Adequate]

Ah, yes, his cosmogony.

David Icke : "We live in a virtual-reality dream world, very much like the one portrayed in the Matrix movies. It is like a holographic Internet in which our brains and DNA act like a computer terminal logging in to a collective reality designed to enslave us in a false ‘world’ of illusion."

[Mobyseven]

What did the wackos compare reality to before The Matrix?

[Cuddles]

But at least he is one of very few Conspiracy Theorists who aren't christian fundamentalists.

In all fairness, it's hard to be a Christian fundamentalist when you think you're the son of God.

[Slayhamlet]

I'm jealous of David Icke. He has managed a thing that for most human beeings is a huge problem: "what do the other people think of me". He was forced to get rid of it because he had his "outcoming" in public on the Wogan Show, beeing a well known sports presenter. Whole UK laughed at him, not with him.

The Lizard stuff came later and it was only a facet of his "i report everything i come across" attitude. It's not the core of his message. The core is the way he thinks reality is working. I think his best speech was this, "Robots Rebellion" from 1994:

-758681198696417932

I dont't subscribe to all of his "conspiracy" stuff but i subscribe to his cosmogony. Hard to swallow for fundamentalist materialists. But at least he is one of very few Conspiracy Theorists who aren't christian fundamentalists.

Well, I listened to the first hour of this speech. Didn't hear anything about his cosmogony. He does wax philosophical at the beginning, but there's nothing really groundbreaking or original to be heard. His metaphysics seem to reflect typical New Ageism: rejection of both scientific positivism and religious monotheism; belief in extra-human consciousness and reincarnation; adoption of a Brahman-like conception of God and the universe (basically Holism); use of buzzwords like "energy field" and "One Mind"; etc., etc. Then, as a final touch, he throws in a little "Noble Savage" and we've got ourselves the perfect New Age cliché.

After that's through he breaks out into full conspiracy mode. Rothschilds, Illuminati, Freemasons, NWO; it's all there. And it all connects to a global secret society that has existed since ancient Egypt and Babylon and controls everything by surreptitiously employing ultra-advanced technology against the citizens of the world; basically suppressing them in order to maintain the status quo. His extraordinary evidence for this extraordinary claim is an oversimplification of complex economic systems and appeals to esoterica. Oh, and the momentous discovery of a massive document meticulously delineating all the intricacies of government mind control techniques, which incidentally was carelessly left inside an old printer that some bloke bought secondhand at the yard sale of an ex-NWO agent...or something along those lines. I can't remember exactly, to tell the truth. Anyway, it all got really boring really quickly, so I quit about an hour into it.

[hellaeon]

Icke is so god damn stupid. Its an art form to actually be so deluded and feel so correct. So all of science with our medicines and biology is wrong.

I really dont like him.

I have said it before - a old friend once told me when explaining icke 'you have to unlearn everything you know'

Damn right you do. He forgot to say 'and fill your head up with crap'