View Full Version : Is Benny Hinn the world's most cynical fraudster?
The Atheist
11th June 2007, 07:18 PM
We sit and whistle about Sylvia Browne and Uri Geller, yet to my mind, a far worse, and infinitely more cynical fraudster is getting away with blatantly fleecing millions of dollars from [usually] those least-able to afford it.
He came to NZ last week, a fact of which I had been unaware, else I would have been there personally.
The event was attended by some 7000, who were exhorted to give $1.8M to "save" this piece of crap's tv show, which screens in this country as paid advertising. Even during the "show" the filthy little man in the white suit managed to humiliate a sufferer who had attended in hope of cure.
Read all about it, here! (http://www.nzherald.co.nz/category/story.cfm?c_id=301&objectid=10444619)
Why are we not deliberately targeting this evil, disgusting excuse for a human being? He's raking in millions while Browne et al are getting a lousy 700 bucks a session. I'm not sure what could be done, except maybe a deliberate defamation of him. I'm game. Hell, in fact, I already do!
The trouble is that he's slimier than a ten-foot conger eel and he has managed to slime his way around being forced to resign from Assemblies of God, being outed as a liar in just about everything and listed as an "avoid" by Minsitry Watch.
ponderingturtle
12th June 2007, 10:37 AM
We sit and whistle about Sylvia Browne and Uri Geller, yet to my mind, a far worse, and infinitely more cynical fraudster is getting away with blatantly fleecing millions of dollars from [usually] those least-able to afford it.
He came to NZ last week, a fact of which I had been unaware, else I would have been there personally.
The event was attended by some 7000, who were exhorted to give $1.8M to "save" this piece of crap's tv show, which screens in this country as paid advertising. Even during the "show" the filthy little man in the white suit managed to humiliate a sufferer who had attended in hope of cure.
Read all about it, here! (http://www.nzherald.co.nz/category/story.cfm?c_id=301&objectid=10444619)
Why are we not deliberately targeting this evil, disgusting excuse for a human being? He's raking in millions while Browne et al are getting a lousy 700 bucks a session. I'm not sure what could be done, except maybe a deliberate defamation of him. I'm game. Hell, in fact, I already do!
The trouble is that he's slimier than a ten-foot conger eel and he has managed to slime his way around being forced to resign from Assemblies of God, being outed as a liar in just about everything and listed as an "avoid" by Minsitry Watch.
Look if a charging a $10,000 a night hotel suit to the ministry in a 3 day layover for his private jet to be refueled doesn't bother people, nothing he can do will bother people.
Unless he gets caught with a prostitute or a man in bed, or possibly if he gets caught like Popoff, nothing he does will stop the idiots from giving him massive amounts of cash.
Personally I would wonder about raising money under a false premise might provide charges that would stick to this bastard, as he raised money for a blind boy he "cured" to put him through college and give him a trust fund. Of course they have not seen a F[rule8]ING! DIME of it, but really it is the thought that counts not the money when you are raising money for disabled children right?
fuelair
12th June 2007, 01:19 PM
We sit and whistle about Sylvia Browne and Uri Geller, yet to my mind, a far worse, and infinitely more cynical fraudster is getting away with blatantly fleecing millions of dollars from [usually] those least-able to afford it.
He came to NZ last week, a fact of which I had been unaware, else I would have been there personally.
The event was attended by some 7000, who were exhorted to give $1.8M to "save" this piece of crap's tv show, which screens in this country as paid advertising. Even during the "show" the filthy little man in the white suit managed to humiliate a sufferer who had attended in hope of cure.
Read all about it, here! (http://www.nzherald.co.nz/category/story.cfm?c_id=301&objectid=10444619)
Why are we not deliberately targeting this evil, disgusting excuse for a human being? He's raking in millions while Browne et al are getting a lousy 700 bucks a session. I'm not sure what could be done, except maybe a deliberate defamation of him. I'm game. Hell, in fact, I already do!
The trouble is that he's slimier than a ten-foot conger eel and he has managed to slime his way around being forced to resign from Assemblies of God, being outed as a liar in just about everything and listed as an "avoid" by Minsitry Watch.
Floridas' gain is New Zealands' loss.:D
a_unique_person
13th June 2007, 07:31 AM
We sit and whistle about Sylvia Browne and Uri Geller, yet to my mind, a far worse, and infinitely more cynical fraudster is getting away with blatantly fleecing millions of dollars from [usually] those least-able to afford it.
He came to NZ last week, a fact of which I had been unaware, else I would have been there personally.
The event was attended by some 7000, who were exhorted to give $1.8M to "save" this piece of crap's tv show, which screens in this country as paid advertising. Even during the "show" the filthy little man in the white suit managed to humiliate a sufferer who had attended in hope of cure.
Read all about it, here! (http://www.nzherald.co.nz/category/story.cfm?c_id=301&objectid=10444619)
Why are we not deliberately targeting this evil, disgusting excuse for a human being? He's raking in millions while Browne et al are getting a lousy 700 bucks a session. I'm not sure what could be done, except maybe a deliberate defamation of him. I'm game. Hell, in fact, I already do!
The trouble is that he's slimier than a ten-foot conger eel and he has managed to slime his way around being forced to resign from Assemblies of God, being outed as a liar in just about everything and listed as an "avoid" by Minsitry Watch.
The worlds most cynical fraudster? Who else comes close?
Ladewig
13th June 2007, 07:49 AM
Unless he gets caught with a prostitute
Swaggart was caught writing bad checks to prostitutes and he is still raking in cash
possibly if he gets caught like Popoff, nothing he does will stop the idiots from giving him massive amounts of cash.
Popoff was caught and thoroughly exposed as a fraud and he, too, is still raking in cash.
I think you are underestimating the gullibility of believers.
ponderingturtle
13th June 2007, 08:20 AM
Swaggart was caught writing bad checks to prostitutes and he is still raking in cash
Popoff was caught and thoroughly exposed as a fraud and he, too, is still raking in cash.
I think you are underestimating the gullibility of believers.
But they both had periods of unpopularity, and lower cash flow. I don't think he could get up to quite the hundreds of millions he is raking in now.
Senex
13th June 2007, 08:34 AM
I've encouraged RSL to use his considerable talent for a website shining light on this scoundel. I agree that if there was a hell Benny Hinn would end up in one of the deeper circles than Sylvia Browne would.
The Atheist
13th June 2007, 11:51 AM
That's along the lines of what I was thinking. I think you've encouraged me to PM Robert and see if he minds me borrowing his idea for Hinn.
I doubt finding Hinn's enemies would be hard work - I don't hear about him appearing on any tv channels.
Mr Clingford
13th June 2007, 11:59 AM
That's along the lines of what I was thinking. I think you've encouraged me to PM Robert and see if he minds me borrowing his idea for Hinn.
I doubt finding Hinn's enemies would be hard work - I don't hear about him appearing on any tv channels.Well good luck and God bless.
ponderingturtle
13th June 2007, 12:04 PM
That's along the lines of what I was thinking. I think you've encouraged me to PM Robert and see if he minds me borrowing his idea for Hinn.
I doubt finding Hinn's enemies would be hard work - I don't hear about him appearing on any tv channels.
I am waiting for him to be sued for falsely claiming to own a CBC documentary on him on Youtube. That was perjury.
Of course he has the money and loyal individuals to take the fall that I find it unlikely they could pin anything on him.
The Atheist
13th June 2007, 01:01 PM
Well good luck and God bless.
Hey there, Mr C!
Your absence has been noted, there have been a couple of good threads you missed. Mind you, Dustin's currently proving "god", while Piggy proves "not god"!
Plus ce change...
Solus
13th June 2007, 03:00 PM
There are bigger fish to fry that much I'll agree on. This deals with religion however so you had better have good evidence if you want to expose a fraud. Much more then you would need for 3rd rate psychics.
The Atheist
13th June 2007, 03:07 PM
Given the number and style of "miracles" Hinn performs, I would have thought that exposing him is just a matter of finding a couple of former helpers. He's such a cheat that he must have ripped off people close to him.
How to find those people might not be so easy.
I'm warming to exposebennyhinn.com instead of stopbennyhinn.
Maybe the presence of something like this would encourage people to out him. Seems to be working for RSL.
CFLarsen
13th June 2007, 03:13 PM
Given the number and style of "miracles" Hinn performs, I would have thought that exposing him is just a matter of finding a couple of former helpers. He's such a cheat that he must have ripped off people close to him.
How to find those people might not be so easy.
What makes you think Benny Hinn hasn't been exposed? There is nothing he does that cannot be - and hasn't been - easily explained.
I'm warming to exposebennyhinn.com instead of stopbennyhinn.
Maybe the presence of something like this would encourage people to out him. Seems to be working for RSL.
Do you have the stamina that Robert has? Are you willing to take it as far?
If you don't, if you fold, Benny Hinn will have a big victory under his belt.
Think it over. Don't go into this, unless you are willing to see it through. Going after the biggies isn't child's play.
Dark Jaguar
13th June 2007, 06:53 PM
It is not just the FAITH of believers, it is their grand IGNORANCE of these events. Now I can only speak for the tiny sampling of those who follow these TVgelical's blatherings, but as far as I can tell, as much as they may worship these god-men, they never really take the time to research them. Now that might strike you as odd, but you need to understand, they aren't thinking in a "confirm the claim" sort of mindset, so deciding to find all news articles that might reveal this or that person to be a crook doesn't even occur to them. Rather, they get all their information from the company line (er, church, sorry :D) and from the man himself on his shows and the many videos he sells of "events". When some innocent old lady is gathering all the information that only the man himself will give, with all the spin and outright lies that go with it, is it any wonder that big scandels don't result in that many people leaving this or that mega church? Again, I don't know if this is a representation of the whole, but considering the mindset someone has to have just to get involved with a mega church to start with, I wouldn't be surprised if this was the case, and it sure would explain why scandel after scandel never seems to sink these rubber ducks.
If this is so, really the only way to get to a lot of these people is to get them this information in a reliable way outside their church data network, and that would require a scandel, or at least a media wide report on a scandel, of such a scale that they just couldn't avoid seeing it all the time on the news.
Corsair 115
14th June 2007, 01:46 AM
For what it's worth, the CBC investigative news program The Fifth Estate did a piece on Benny Hinn a year or two ago. Suffice it to say it was not complimentary.
One sad aspect to the program was that a fellow in his twenties suffering from cancer, if I recall correctly, was foregoing medical treatment recommended by his doctors in favour of being healed by Mr. Hinn at one of his religious gatherings. Hinn did not end up seeing this fellow, and yet the young man still believed that Hinn would eventually see and heal him.
a_unique_person
14th June 2007, 03:17 AM
There are bigger fish to fry that much I'll agree on. This deals with religion however so you had better have good evidence if you want to expose a fraud. Much more then you would need for 3rd rate psychics.
There are 2nd rate psychics? Amazing.
billiefan2000
14th June 2007, 04:23 PM
Benny Hinn is the King of Fraudsters
in fact despite all the stuff such as
BENNY HINN is a False Prophet clip
http://youtube.com/watch?v=fWXTyLDnqwo
and the fact Benny has pressured youtube into removing videos that show him to be a fraud
BTW: many other TBN pastors and Rick Warren have also attacked youtube for allowing videos that show them to be questionable and have bullied youtube to take the "offensive" clips down
http://exchristian.net/2/2007/06/independent-conservative-blog-operated.html
http://austinatheist.blogspot.com/2007/06/benny-hinn-has-no-right.html
all proves Hinn is not only a False Teacher but a False Prophet and thug as well
and yet christians still believe him shows he is a master fraduster and master deceiver
BTW:
the Bible talks about folks like Hinn and his fellow TBN Brethren
MATTHEW 24:24
For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
2 PETER 2:1
But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
UnrepentantSinner
14th June 2007, 10:16 PM
20/20 did a story in him 5-7 years ago including a follow up 6 months or so after the first story aired.
Darat
15th June 2007, 01:41 PM
Had to move a whole load of posts to AAH, there may have been some stuff that was appropriate but I wasn't going to try and unpick all the rubbish.
Also a warning to The Atheist: if you continue here or elsewhere to breach your Membership Agreement as you did in many of the posts I moved it will result in further Mod action which may include suspension or banning.
The Atheist
15th June 2007, 02:47 PM
Benny Hinn is the King of Fraudsters
in fact despite all the stuff such as
BENNY HINN is a False Prophet clip
http://youtube.com/watch?v=fWXTyLDnqwo
and the fact Benny has pressured youtube into removing videos that show him to be a fraud
BTW: many other TBN pastors and Rick Warren have also attacked youtube for allowing videos that show them to be questionable and have bullied youtube to take the "offensive" clips down
http://exchristian.net/2/2007/06/independent-conservative-blog-operated.html
http://austinatheist.blogspot.com/2007/06/benny-hinn-has-no-right.html
all proves Hinn is not only a False Teacher but a False Prophet and thug as well
and yet christians still believe him shows he is a master fraduster and master deceiver
BTW:
the Bible talks about folks like Hinn and his fellow TBN Brethren
MATTHEW 24:24
For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
2 PETER 2:1
But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
Nice to see members of the christian community showing a care about this fraudster!
As you and others have pointed out, the exposes of Hinn have been well-publicised and on major tv channels.
While the bible mentions false prophets, there's nothing false about Hinn's profits. He keeps hiding under the "persecution" blanket and it keeps working. Pretty sure Jim Jones played the same card.
Have you had personal experience of Hinn?
The Atheist
15th June 2007, 02:57 PM
If this is so, really the only way to get to a lot of these people is to get them this information in a reliable way outside their church data network, and that would require a scandel, or at least a media wide report on a scandel, of such a scale that they just couldn't avoid seeing it all the time on the news.
I'm thinking there needs to be a better way. As noted, he's immune from criticism. First, the faithful won't listen to it and secondly, they won't believe if it if they do.
The woman with Tourette's told to go home in the Auckland show is a classic example - people with half a brain would have realised then and left. Nobody did and there were several thousand outside.
betcha they waited around to give him money.
For what it's worth, the CBC investigative news program The Fifth Estate did a piece on Benny Hinn a year or two ago. Suffice it to say it was not complimentary.
One sad aspect to the program was that a fellow in his twenties suffering from cancer, if I recall correctly, was foregoing medical treatment recommended by his doctors in favour of being healed by Mr. Hinn at one of his religious gatherings. Hinn did not end up seeing this fellow, and yet the young man still believed that Hinn would eventually see and heal him.
20/20 did a story in him 5-7 years ago including a follow up 6 months or so after the first story aired.
Proof of the pudding, I guess.
Hinn is already being attacked by multiple websites; he's listed as a fraud on many of them; he's been exposed on different national tv channels; he is attacked by church groups; he was expelled from Assemby of God; he's a cyncial cheat and everyone knows it - even Wiki exposes him for dodgy dealings - yet it makes no difference to his his income levels, although it could even help raise them.
Here's another big difference between Hinn and Sylvia:
Sylvia gets paid to appear on Montel because she creates interest and ratings. [afaik, that's how it works]
Hinn pays for his tv time.
CFLarsen
15th June 2007, 03:02 PM
I'm thinking there needs to be a better way. As noted, he's immune from criticism. First, the faithful won't listen to it and secondly, they won't believe if it if they do.
The woman with Tourette's told to go home in the Auckland show is a classic example - people with half a brain would have realised then and left. Nobody did and there were several thousand outside.
betcha they waited around to give him money.
Proof of the pudding, I guess.
Hinn is already being attacked by multiple websites; he's listed as a fraud on many of them; he's been exposed on different national tv channels; he is attacked by church groups; he was expelled from Assemby of God; he's a cyncial cheat and everyone knows it - even Wiki exposes him for dodgy dealings - yet it makes no difference to his his income levels, although it could even help raise them.
What would be a better way, then?
PeterB
17th June 2007, 03:57 AM
I am waiting for him to be sued for falsely claiming to own a CBC documentary on him on Youtube. That was perjury.
Of course he has the money and loyal individuals to take the fall that I find it unlikely they could pin anything on him.
Do you have any details about the CBC thing? The slimy charlatan lied to YouTube about a video of mine that he claimed breached his copyright, and YouTube removed it.
And how do I know he lied? Because not one pixel, not one bit of the video had ever been touched by Hinn or anyone associated with him, and it showed no images or text which had been produced by Hinn. All it showed was me doing his stage act of pushing someone over.
You can still see the video, of course, at http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles/history/2007/04april.htm#28hinn
The Atheist
17th June 2007, 04:24 AM
That's more of a problem of YouTube's than Hinn's anyway. Randi's had his own Geller tapes removed.
YouTube are ####-scared of further lawsuits and remove anything which is asked to be removed, it seems. Plenty of other hosts, hopefully this will ensure YT never gain total dominance in the market. YT just provided a nice, easy loophole that all of these frauds are exploiting.
I'll use your link myself, cheers.
c4ts
18th June 2007, 02:54 PM
Haven't read the whole thread, but if it hasn't been said before, I'm pointing out that Benny Hinn does hot readings. He asks his participants to fill out forms with all the information he needs before he puts them on the show. Some were even cured months or years before appearing on the show.
CFLarsen
18th June 2007, 03:04 PM
Haven't read the whole thread, but if it hasn't been said before, I'm pointing out that Benny Hinn does hot readings. He asks his participants to fill out forms with all the information he needs before he puts them on the show. Some were even cured months or years before appearing on the show.
Sylvia Browne also asks people to fill out forms.
c4ts
18th June 2007, 03:28 PM
Sylvia Browne also asks people to fill out forms.
Does she do the thing where she picks someone from the audience, instantly knowing their hometown, full name, and problem, while claiming God is supplying her with the information? That's what Hinn's forms are for.
CFLarsen
18th June 2007, 03:34 PM
Does she do the thing where she picks someone from the audience, instantly knowing their hometown, full name, and problem, while claiming God is supplying her with the information? That's what Hinn's forms are for.
How do you know that Hinn knows their location in the audience?
c4ts
18th June 2007, 03:39 PM
How do you know that Hinn knows their location in the audience?
Not sure he does. Sometimes he calls out a name and they come up to the stage crying.
The Atheist
18th June 2007, 03:45 PM
Haven't read the whole thread, but if it hasn't been said before, I'm pointing out that Benny Hinn does hot readings. He asks his participants to fill out forms with all the information he needs before he puts them on the show. Some were even cured months or years before appearing on the show.
Cheers.
That hadn't been specifically mentioned, but it looks like all of his tricks have been outed in one place or another, from sites which are already available.
The more I think about this, the more I admire the man for having an impregnable hold on his followers and an ability to rise above any stench from his frauds. He appears untouchable, unless there are some laws he's breaking.
CFLarsen
18th June 2007, 03:57 PM
Not sure he does. Sometimes he calls out a name and they come up to the stage crying.
That's a far cry from picking someone from the audience, instantly knowing their hometown, full name, and problem.
Be careful not to overstate your case. Hinn and his followers will be all over you, if you do.
The Atheist
18th June 2007, 04:07 PM
Be careful not to overstate your case. Hinn and his followers will be all over you, if you do.
There are times when I think you actually believe some of the stuff you post.
c4ts
18th June 2007, 04:18 PM
That's a far cry from picking someone from the audience, instantly knowing their hometown, full name, and problem.
Be careful not to overstate your case. Hinn and his followers will be all over you, if you do.
Because, as we all know, an abundance of lawyers determines truth...
CFLarsen
18th June 2007, 04:34 PM
There are times when I think you actually believe some of the stuff you post.
I'll play along.
What do you mean?
Because, as we all know, an abundance of lawyers determines truth...
Not even that. But if you say something that can easily be countered, they will seize on that, and repeat it, again and again, like the trained little drones they are.
Don't ever forget that they need people like Benny Hinn to be true. We are not dealing with rational people here.
JJM 777
19th June 2007, 01:33 AM
Have you had personal experience of Hinn?
In the 1990's I attended a few meetings of Benny Hinn when he was visiting Finland.
Benny Hinn (and any famous evangelist) usually begins his meetings by declaring that photography is forbidden, please put your cameras away. The only problem is that in some countries -- including Finland -- the legislation grants people the right to take photos of any public performance for the first 5 minutes after each performer has risen on the stage. All copyrights of such photos belong to the photographer, not to the performer.
A more or less devout Christian friend of mine is a freelancer photographer, and he had arrived to Benny Hinn's meeting in Helsinki with the intention of making his daily bread there, taking photos and selling them to newspapers and Christian magazines.
When he approached the stage to take photos of Mr. Hinn, the security personnel removed him from the area. There was no discussing with them about the Finnish legislation or the freedom of press. My friend later told me: "I didn't leave without photos, of course. I have my techniques for difficult situations such as these." I asked what these techniques might be, but he refused to tell: "Such information would cost you a bit..."
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Benny Hinn has a product that sells good and makes most people happy: catchy praise music, preaching positive thoughts (only) about life and the afterlife, no strict morality sermons (they no longer sell too well even to the most conservative Christians), some hopeful thoughts about miraculous healings or economical blessings.
He uses the Kathryn Kuhlman technique of refusing to pray for individuals (who usually queue for prayer in the meetings of an average evangelist). Instead he invites members of the audience to "testify of miracles that have already happened to them". This looks better on the stage, when you don't need to pray for obviously sick people who will not get healed anyway, making you look like a failure on the stage.
Staff members select the best of such candidates onto the stage, to be blessed by Mr. Hinn. But even this technique isn't waterproof: it happened in one of the meetings in Finland that a middle-aged woman came on the stage to testify of her miraculous instant healing from chronical stuttering. She must have been able to speak better than usual for a while, to convince herself and her friends and the staff members that she had been healed indeed. Her first words into the microphone were quite fluent (though understandably ecstatic), but then she began to stutter again, couldn't finish a word without repeating it three or four times.
At this point Benny Hinn quickly grabbed the microphone from her hand, and asked the audience to rise up and praise God for having healed this woman, so that she never needs to stutter again. A friend of mine, a devout but not blind Christian sitting next to me in the audience, commented in a rather loud voice: "But she wasn't healed! She is still stuttering!" Some people sitting around us gave him a rebuking stare, and then everyone rose up to sing another cathcy praise song.
It would have been too much to say into the microphone that excuse us for the mistaken miracle report afore, it appears that this woman is still stuttering a bit.
---
PS: CFLarsen, long time no see... my relativity theory of morals is three-dimensional nowadays.
CFLarsen
19th June 2007, 01:52 AM
PS: CFLarsen, long time no see... my relativity theory of morals is three-dimensional nowadays.
Feel free to pick up where you left.
JJM 777
19th June 2007, 02:27 AM
Feel free to pick up where you left.
Sorry, the rules prohibit me from posting links to my most Amazing websites, until I first chew the rationed amount of rubbish on this forum.
I wonder who decides the tags for these threads. This one has has been tagged with the keywords "benny hinn, charlatan, cynical, fraud, ministry watch, moneygrabber".
CFLarsen
19th June 2007, 02:54 AM
Sorry, the rules prohibit me from posting links to my most Amazing websites, until I first chew the rationed amount of rubbish on this forum.
I'm sure you will soon get around that problem.
I wonder who decides the tags for these threads. This one has has been tagged with the keywords "benny hinn, charlatan, cynical, fraud, ministry watch, moneygrabber".
Anyone can add tags.
The Atheist
19th June 2007, 03:08 AM
It would have been too much to say into the microphone that excuse us for the mistaken miracle report afore, it appears that this woman is still stuttering a bit.
Thanks for that. Lots of people here dislike anecdotal evidence. I'm not one of them, I like to hear things from the horse's mouth.
Cheers.
SezMe
19th June 2007, 04:02 AM
Does she do the thing where she picks someone from the audience, instantly knowing their hometown, full name, and problem, while claiming God is supplying her with the information? That's what Hinn's forms are for.
That's not how it went at the Hinn event I attended. It was at the Anaheim Pond, a large (~14,000 seats) arena in southern California usually used for hockey events.
There were numerous Hinn aides working the main floor where the sick and afflicted were located. They, not Hinn, picked the "winners" (losers) who got to go up on stage. But Hinn did have information about them when they appeared but there was no attempt to disguise that fact. It was not even a hot reading. Hinn was reading from a card as he introduced, talked to, and "healed" the victim.
I was up in the peanut gallery watching the aides work the poor people on the main floor. Many were in an apparatus like Hawkings uses - or even worse. I watched with my binoculars as the aides would approach these people and their (presumably) family. You could see them pray together and then see checks being written. But these poor souls were certainly not the ones who made it on stage to be cured.
It was a sickening, revolting process. Hinn has to be at the bottom of the pile of human garbage. I try to be measured in my assessment of other folks but I have no hesitation in saying that I harbor nothing but pure hate for him.
CFLarsen
19th June 2007, 04:16 AM
Benny Hinn isn't human.
The Atheist
19th June 2007, 12:48 PM
It was a sickening, revolting process. Hinn has to be at the bottom of the pile of human garbage. I try to be measured in my assessment of other folks but I have no hesitation in saying that I harbor nothing but pure hate for him.
Well said. Couldn't agree more.
Questioninggeller
19th June 2007, 01:24 PM
On a side note, it appears Benny got anyway with his youtube purge (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=80675). Whereas Geller is getting sued (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/05/10/BAGCLPOKLR3.DTL).
CFLarsen
19th June 2007, 01:40 PM
On a side note, it appears Benny got anyway with his youtube purge (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=80675).
No, he won't.
Whereas Geller is getting sued (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/05/10/BAGCLPOKLR3.DTL).
Damn. First, Jessica Alba. Now this.
There is a God after all.
c4ts
19th June 2007, 04:41 PM
They, not Hinn, picked the "winners" (losers) who got to go up on stage. But Hinn did have information about them when they appeared but there was no attempt to disguise that fact.
Depends on the way the show is handled. From what I saw he goes "God says there is -such and such disease- to be cured!" and then they all line up to go onstage and fall over. I'd forgotten about the aides keeping the truly sick offstage.
Questioninggeller
19th June 2007, 04:59 PM
Depends on the way the show is handled. From what I saw he goes "God says there is -such and such disease- to be cured!" and then they all line up to go onstage and fall over. I'd forgotten about the aides keeping the truly sick offstage.
Plus his reading off of random cures. For example, he'll say, "Someone to my right has just been cured of cancer."
JJM 777
20th June 2007, 12:58 AM
One more post to go
Not any more. The moderators found my old username from the previous version of JREF forum (four or five years ago), and awarded its posting statistics to me.
Very important to cover all the bases. Did I miss any?
Looking at the Popular Tags list, I was inspired by "woo", "unrepentantsinner", "television", "scam", "idiot" and "hard to tag".
For example, he'll say, "Someone to my right has just been cured of cancer."
This is a simple statistical fact. I can take the microphone during the half-time of Super Bowl and say that someone on my right has just been cured of cancer. And it will be true.
The Atheist
20th June 2007, 01:51 AM
I take it that's you in your avatar?
I don't put mine up, it scares small children.
Welcome back then!
The Grave
20th June 2007, 05:36 PM
Benny Hinn isn't human.
Beny Hill ... isn't he the fastest milkman in the west?
The Atheist
20th June 2007, 08:13 PM
Beny Hill ... isn't he the fastest milkman in the west?
I find it highly amusing that Wikipedia has a note about not mixing these two up.
Ernie... Bested only by two-ton Ted from Teddington.
Benny Hill was a legend. Hinn is a piece of scum from a 100-year old septic tank.
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