Bomb Blast on UN Headquarters in Iraq

[Mr Manifesto]

Link here (http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/s927972.htm).

Other reports have shocking details. A rep of the IMF had an aluminium bold put through his face, but he was concious enough to identify himself. It's stuff like this that makes me hate war. I wish there was some other way besides this mess that Iraq has become.

[arcticpenguin]

The attack was not directed at U.S. armed forces in Iraq but at the headquarters of several U.N aid organizations.

In short, it was terrorism.

[Jon_in_london]

The UN special envoy to Iraq has also been killed.

[Skeptic]

Originally posted by Jon_in_london
The UN special envoy to Iraq has also been killed.

Hmmmm. So, it killed only killed UN personnel?

For a moment I thought it was something serious.

[Bluegill]

Originally posted by Skeptic


Hmmmm. So, it killed only killed UN personnel?

For a moment I thought it was something serious.


So f*cking sweet of you. I guess you're opting out of the office flower fund?

[KelvinG]

Originally posted by Skeptic


Hmmmm. So, it killed only killed UN personnel?

For a moment I thought it was something serious.

Now, you're obviously just trying to be a smart ass, but can you imagine if someone from Europe said after the 9/11 attacks "So, it killed only Americans. For a moment I thought it was something serious."
You think there might be a few irate people on this site? I bet you might even be one of them.

[dissonance]

Forgive me for not appreciating your tremendous wit, skeptic, but my Aunt is currently in Iraq, working with the UN to try and ensure a safe and effective food distribution system, and no one in my family has heard from her yet.

I'm seriously restraining myself from letting loose on you. The first version of this post I wrote would probably have gotten me banned from the board.

[Mr Manifesto]

Dissonance, don't let Skeptic's ignorance upset you. He can't even read. Want proof? Click here (http://www.randi.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=24882). Scroll down to my post.

Good luck in the Totles, Skeptic! You might win something for once in your life.

[KelvinG]

Originally posted by Skeptic


Hmmmm. So, it killed only killed UN personnel?

For a moment I thought it was something serious.

Just for you Skeptic, here's a short news item about a couple of those unimportant UN personnel that were killed in the Baghdad blast.

http://www.cbc.ca/stories/2003/08/20/cdn_baghdad030820

Maybe you can write their families and further express your disdain for the UN and it's mission.

[Skeptic]

Maybe you can write their families and further express your disdain for the UN and it's mission.

Everybody had their say?

Everybody is outraged enough?

Everybody here cannot believe how callous my reaction is?

Nobody understands how I could be be so incosiderate of human suffering?

Good.

Why, you ask?

Well, in the last three years of war between the palestinians and israelies, every two week or so saw a day when there were more than a few casualities on one side or the other.

EVERY SINGLE TIME there were ten or more palestinians killed--regardless of the circumstances--the UN had an "emergency session" of the security council to denounce "israeli agression" in the usual ritualistic manner.

However, when the reverse was the case--such as yesterday, for instance--NOT ONCE did the UN even bother to notice, let alone condemn, the death of jews by palestinian terorrists, even when it was in its regular session.

Quite clearly, the UN's view is that the death of jews is insignificant and does not matter, while jewish self-defense is a war crime. But, through rote repetition, this callous disregard by the UN of jewish lives, this assitance in murder through silence, this support of murderers of jews, no longer surprises or shocks.

So now, for once, the table is turned, and it is the UN, and not jews, who are the target of a terror attack. This gave me a golden opportunity to expose the UN's perfidity, by PRETENDING to treat it EXACTLY LIKE it ACTUALLY treats me and my country.

I admit the turnaround isn't as complete as it could be: to make it more accurate, I should not only have pretended to cheer the murder, but pretend further to offer the bombers a seat in the israeli parliament, invite them to give a speech in an official capacity explaining why the UN is evil and must be destroyed, stack all government committees with people who support the destruction of the UN by these terrorists, and so on.

But even so, suddenly, when it isn't the UN dismissing the death of jews with a shrug, BUT THE OTHER WAY AROUND, it looks awfully horrible, doesn't it? It looks like the callous support of murder that it is.

I was making a RHETORICAL POINT by PRETENDING to be indifferent. The UN isn't pretending--it actually is. What's its excuse?

[KelvinG]

Originally posted by Skeptic
Maybe you can write their families and further express your disdain for the UN and it's mission.

Everybody had their say?

Everybody is outraged enough?

Everybody here cannot believe how callous my reaction is?

Nobody understands how I could be be so incosiderate of human suffering?

Good.

Why, you ask?

Well, in the last three years of war between the palestinians and israelies, every two week or so saw a day when there were more than a few casualities on one side or the other.

EVERY SINGLE TIME there were ten or more palestinians killed--regardless of the circumstances--the UN had an "emergency session" of the security council to denounce "israeli agression" in the usual ritualistic manner.

However, when the reverse was the case--such as yesterday, for instance--NOT ONCE did the UN even bother to notice, let alone condemn, the death of jews by palestinian terorrists, even when it was in its regular session.

Quite clearly, the UN's view is that the death of jews is insignificant and does not matter, while jewish self-defense is a war crime. But, through rote repetition, this callous disregard by the UN of jewish lives, this assitance in murder through silence, this support of murderers of jews, no longer surprises or shocks.

So now, for once, the table is turned, and it is the UN, and not jews, who are the target of a terror attack. This gave me a golden opportunity to expose the UN's perfidity, by PRETENDING to treat it EXACTLY LIKE it ACTUALLY treats me and my country.

I admit the turnaround isn't as complete as it could be: to make it more accurate, I should not only have pretended to cheer the murder, but pretend further to offer the bombers a seat in the israeli parliament, invite them to give a speech in an official capacity explaining why the UN is evil and must be destroyed, stack all government committees with people who support the destruction of the UN by these terrorists, and so on.

But even so, suddenly, when it isn't the UN dismissing the death of jews with a shrug, BUT THE OTHER WAY AROUND, it looks awfully horrible, doesn't it? It looks like the callous support of murder that it is.

I was making a RHETORICAL POINT by PRETENDING to be indifferent. The UN isn't pretending--it actually is. What's its excuse?

This seems to fall into the "two wrongs don't make a right" category.
I actually agree with your above point. I find violence on either side of the Israeli/Palestinian conflict to be reprehensible and should be met with equal condemnation by the UN, and all countries in the world. However, your stance seems to be an advocation of terrorism: "Sure, the UN in Iraq got blown up, but they deserved it because their stance on Israel/Palestine is hypocritical." This is the mindset that terrorists have. They advocate the death of innocents as long as it brings attention to their cause. Should we justify the loss of lives in the UN blast as being an effective way to expose UN hypocricy. God, I hope not.

And I'm sure you can understand how your attempt at being "indifferent" could be seen as being highly insensitive. You may not agree with everything the UN does, but how exactly does that make the loss of innocent lives anything but tragic.

For instance, I'm not exactly enamoured with the way the Bush administration has handled the Iraq situation since late last year, but I certainly don't make smart ass jokes about how I think it's not important when US soldiers die. Just because I don't believe in the government's policy, doesn't mean I revel in death of any kind.

And I'm sure you can also understand that it's difficult when reading your post to determine whether you are being ironic, sarcastic, humourous, or just plain stupid. My initial reaction was you were dismissing the loss of UN lives in Iraq as unimportant because the UN didn't play ball with the US when they wanted the resolution for war to pass. I interpreted it as "sour grapes" syndrome.

So, if we all just misunderstood you, I suppose we'll have to do a better job of reading between the lines next time. Or you might have to do a better job or making your point a little clearer.

[Mr Manifesto]

Originally posted by Skeptic
Maybe you can write their families and further express your disdain for the UN and it's mission.

Everybody had their say?

Everybody is outraged enough?

Everybody here cannot believe how callous my reaction is?

blah blah blah



Aw, he's pretending he was making a rhetorical point now. How cute.

Just apologise and quit being a tool for once in your life.

[Skeptic]

This seems to fall into the "two wrongs don't make a right" category.

It would have been... if I was REALLY cheering the death of the UN workers. But I am not, as said above.

[Mr Manifesto]

Originally posted by Skeptic
This seems to fall into the "two wrongs don't make a right" category.

It would have been... if I was REALLY cheering the death of the UN workers. But I am not, as said above.

Still waiting for your apology, tool.