View Full Version : Robert Lancaster didn't slander Sylvia Browne; and this is why
angrybeliever
13th June 2007, 10:12 AM
This thread is being started so that the truth, and not the attempt by the office/friends of Sylvia Browne to sabotage our attempts to bring to light the despicable shenanigans used to hide their wrong doings.
It should not surprise anyone that they would think like that. It took me awhile, but, stellafane is probably 100% correct. Sylvia has had many years since being found guilty/no contest of her mining debacle to hone her various methods of staying ahead of her detractors.
Now, I would like to encourage all the people on this forum, and those who are in contact with RSL to finally band together and stop her where it hurts...in the pocketbook.
That means, at lectures, at bookstores, the whole works. Please contact RSL www.stopsylviabrowne.com if you want to be part of the growing number of former NS members and current members that have formed to carry through with bringing the truth to the public.
Overman
13th June 2007, 10:17 AM
:catfight:
angrybeliever
13th June 2007, 10:20 AM
Boy, you sure are brave, getting that close to her talons! I prefer the economical way to discredit her.
I also find it extremely telling that despite many calls for Sylvia Browne to come out and defend/challenge what Robert has printed; she refuses and leaves it to the fans who know practically nothing about this.
Miss Anthrope
13th June 2007, 10:29 AM
I'll post in support!
SeekingTruth
13th June 2007, 10:31 AM
Great idea!
Maybe some of those fence sitters will come forward and contact RSL with any information they have.
ST
Reno
13th June 2007, 11:03 AM
I have no idea what I can do from my current location, but if she ever tours Scotland, I'll be sure to put myself in her firing line.
Stellafane
13th June 2007, 11:08 AM
Should I bring up some utterly irrelevant topic that we can argue about ad nauseum to artificially beef up this thread? For example, why is there air?
Of course, it might help this thread's "findability" to mention Robert Lancaster's name early and often. You know, Robert Lancaster, the Robert Lancaster, the one who's named Robert Lancaster. That one.
Pythra
13th June 2007, 11:13 AM
I am quite skeptical that Sylvia's friends/followers are secretly trying to sabotage Robert's efforts by posting, for example, the "stop Robert Lancaster" thread and hoping for it to show up in Google. That's a stretch. SylviaRox even said in his OP that he believed the thread would be deleted by mods. Sylvia's people are greedy and ruthless, but they're really not too bright about dealing with the negative publicity. Case in point: the train wreck that is GoSylviaBrowne.com
I imagine Sylvia's next cunning move will be something along the lines of StopRobertLancaster.com. She wouldn't invite scrutiny of her actions on the JREF forum, that's for sure.
So while I agree that of course, anyone with evidence of Sylvia's misdeeds should contact RSL, I don't think there's any need for paranoia about Sylvia's "secret agents" making clever social engineering attacks.
slyjoe
13th June 2007, 11:24 AM
Cool - I just had a class yesterday about "social engineering" attacks. Haven't got a chance to practce yet though. :)
SeekingTruth
13th June 2007, 12:27 PM
<SNIP>I am quite skeptical that Sylvia's friends/followers are secretly trying to sabotage Robert's efforts by posting, for example, the "stop Robert Lancaster" thread and hoping for it to show up in Google. That's a stretch. SylviaRox even said in his OP that he believed the thread would be deleted by mods.
So while I agree that of course, anyone with evidence of Sylvia's misdeeds should contact RSL, I don't think there's any need for paranoia about Sylvia's "secret agents" making clever social engineering attacks.
With all due respect, unless you've been closely associated with SB and/or her staff, you would know that this is EXACTLY the kind of thing they would do. By starting the post with "I'm sure this will be deleted by mods........." they knew that it would NOT be deleted. Believe me, I know how their minds work!
It has nothing to do with being paranoid - it has EVERYTHING to do with knowing how they operate....and many of us do.
ST
TruthBeTold
13th June 2007, 12:56 PM
Seeking Truth is 100% right.
Those who are clinging to Sylvia's shirt-tails are feeling backed into a corner.
Do a search into the discussion groups and on almost every one you will see a thread about how evil Robert is and how they'd like to get back at him.
Many who have been involved with SB discussion groups for years understand completely how to get their groups to come up on the search engines before the competing sites. Whether that was SR's intention or not we may never know but it did work. Then again, there's also a link that comes up when you Google Robert Lancaster about a Robert Lancaster who was hung many years ago for murder so there ya go! :rolleyes:
Pyrtha's right about there probably not being alot of people Googling Robert UNLESS they are looking for dirt on him which I'm sure there is none! ;)
And I was also curious as to whether Montel's ratings would go down should we who are watching for her slip up would DVR or TiVo it instead of watching it every Wednesday? My daughter says the ratings don't count them when they're being taped but I don't know how true that is...I'm sure someone here does.
I want to buy a T-shirt from Robert's site but I don't like the claw graphic.
Any chance that new T-shirts with just www.stopsylviabrowne.com on them Robert?
I'd buy several and wear them proudly as would my husband who works with a guy who can't wait to watch the clawed one on Wednesdays!! He'd drop a hammer on his head to help him out but he's not that kind of guy!
I would also suggest letters written to all possible TV talk show hosts who are humanitarian and justice seekers. I bet if Oprah had an inkling of what was going on, she'd do a show on it!
Good Morning America and the like are another option. Anything for ratings and because the articles on Roberts site hit home with so many people as there are so many missing people, they might jump on it faster than we think!!
I don't lump all SB Book readers or fans into the same pile but many wouldn't watch Anderson Cooper but they would watch Oprah or GMA.
Just a thought.
SeekingTruth
13th June 2007, 12:59 PM
Should I bring up some utterly irrelevant topic that we can argue about ad nauseum to artificially beef up this thread? For example, why is there air?
Of course, it might help this thread's "findability" to mention Robert Lancaster's name early and often. You know, Robert Lancaster, the Robert Lancaster, the one who's named Robert Lancaster. That one.
Robert Lancaster is an honorable man!
Robert Lancaster is a man of integrity!
Robert Lancaster believes in justice.
Robert Lancaster wants the truth to be visible for all to see!
RobertRox LOL
Robert Lancaster has a website located at www.stopsylviabrowne.com that everyone who is interested in truth and justice needs to see. (OK, so I left out and the American way!)
Robert Lancaster..... Robert Lancaster...... Robert Lancaster....
That should help!
ST
RSLancastr
13th June 2007, 01:12 PM
Yet again, I find I have woken up in an alternate universe... :boggled:
Ducky
13th June 2007, 01:15 PM
In this alternate universe, RSL, you're required to wear tights and run around the city in a cape stopping all psychics.
BTW, for the record, in the other thread about Robert Lancaster, *I* was the only one I read who could be considered even approaching slandering Sylvia Browne, and even then it's iffy at best.
Reno
13th June 2007, 01:18 PM
I had the same thoughts Robert.
Can I say to all the XNS members we now have here: I appreciate all the info, and all the support you want to give RSL and the SSB site. But please realise that Robert is just a normal guy. He's not some superhero or a big TV presence like Sylvia or Oprah. He's just a nice big bloke who is tenacious and thorough.
I only post this as I see the ...ummm... how can I put this without sounding offensive? I see a lot of posts from XNS recently getting a little feverish. I'd hate RSL to become your new obsession now that Sylvia and NS is no longer part of your lives.
I probably offended some of you there and that was not my intent. I just think it had to be said.
Reno
13th June 2007, 01:21 PM
Slander Sylvia? oh ok...
Sylvia Browne, you're a liar, a fraud, a cheat, a heartless, uncaring huckster who needs to spend a minimum of 10 years behind bars in prison.
If you'd like my name and address, I'm more than happy to supply it on asking.
Jon.
13th June 2007, 01:22 PM
And I was also curious as to whether Montel's ratings would go down should we who are watching for her slip up would DVR or TiVo it instead of watching it every Wednesday? My daughter says the ratings don't count them when they're being taped but I don't know how true that is...I'm sure someone here does.
As I understand it, the ratings are based on a random sampling of households that are given Nielsen boxes (and know that they have these boxes). So if you're not a "Nielsen family", it doesn't matter what you watch - it won't affect the ratings.
SeekingTruth
13th June 2007, 01:24 PM
I only post this as I see the ...ummm... how can I put this without sounding offensive? I see a lot of posts from XNS recently getting a little feverish. I'd hate RSL to become your new obsession now that Sylvia and NS is no longer part of your lives.
I probably offended some of you there and that was not my intent. I just think it had to be said.
Appearing feverish is about righting an injustice - not obsessing over RSL.
Not offended - just highly supportive of RSL's efforts.
New obsession? I think his new bride would protest ;)
ST
Brattus
13th June 2007, 01:37 PM
I think way to much stock is being placed into what Sylvia Browne or her people are, can or will do against Mr. Lancaster.
I have no doubt that the ONLY thing she wants from Mr. Lancaster is for him to go away and leave her alone.
Now we need a problem to solve on this thread to fuel it.
So here is one:
I have no doubt that at least at one point in Mr. Lancasters life he has stated while looking up at the sky that it was a clear day that day.
I also have no doubt that on that day it was NOT a clear day across the entire planet!
So that PROVES he LIED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hey it's the best I can do! He's just to dang nice of a guy to have anything else!
TruthBeTold
13th June 2007, 01:49 PM
Thanks Jon, I was wondering about the ratings thing.
Heck! How many of those boxes go out anyway???
I always thought it just registered through the various cable companies or something...
You're right Reno. I'm sure that there are many here who really couldn't care about SB or NS. I respect that.
I'm not a vigilante wishing to be a part of a witchhunt that stakes out Sylvia's house with torches lit chanting for the clawed one to come out and face her offenses. The stories on Robert's website are NOT just Sylvia giving harmless information like some charlatans do. She's ruining lives and causing harm and Roberts site can help people so we figure it deserves to be heard and seen. Yes, we have a personal stake since we were duped by the clawed one but I think our mission and Robert's mission are the same.
And I'm not one who takes on the title of fan in any way, shape or form but I do admire Robert and his mission.
Thanks for the visual of him in tights though...I was just going to make Shrimp FraDiablo and am not sure I can do it now...no offense Robert. The thought of my own husband in tights would have the same affect. :D
My reference to Oprah or GMA wasn't putting Robert on a pedestal.
Pedestals are to be tipped over...it's human nature. I wouldn't put anyone I like on one because even I would be tempted to tip it! :whistling
It was geared toward possibly James Randi and Robert Lancaster taking their message to another venue besides Anderson Cooper where they will be targeting the right audiences and be seen by more people who would care.
Maybe we took it too far? Maybe he appreciates all of our help and support?
That's for him to say but I think he appreciates the help.
Maybe all of us ex-NS'ers or ex-SB'ers, as we are referred to, should do what we can and band together elsewhere and stop bothering these nice people here at JREF? I dunno!!
Although....... there ARE alot of people interested in supporting Robert and stopping Sylvia Browne who are regular, long-time members of JREF. It's not just us newbies who joined to support PBF or anything! ;)
And there seem to be more and more joining every day! :eek:
TruthBeTold
angrybeliever
13th June 2007, 02:07 PM
Ok, Wiping off my highly fevered brow.:faint:
Now, at least for me, I can state that while RSL IS a man among men...it is clear that on JREF, there are many such people.
When those of who have been NS folks, began to read and understand what Robert was doing, it was a relief to find someone who had researched the data, and was totally open to hearing anything contrary (or similiar) should they want to submit it to him.
Therein, to this date...I have yet to see ANY such responses from those who think RSL is slandering Sylvia, by providing documentation contrary to what he is saying.
It has been very frustrating for us to deal with the betrayal of NS/Sylvia, and at the same time run around and apologize to those that we may have offended during our rose-colored period.
I am not a vigilante. I am someone who believes in justice and above all that our society for a long time now, talks about 'taking responsibility' for actions but conveniently leave out the 'accountability' factor. We are heartsick, believe it or not that we have had any part in supporting or defending Sylvia AND, I can tell you that almost all of us who have begun communicating off this board, are of this opinion: If we had known a smidgeon of this information before....we would have come forward.
I have trouble sleeping at night, now. I want to be in a room with Sylvia, and tell her that she is the lowest form of charlatan. But, I know that would be a waste of time.
What would not be a waste of time, would be to finally put an end to her reign of deceit and harm to others.
The sponsors of the programs that she visits LISTEN to consumers when they write and say, "I'm boycotting your product because_________. Send them some of this stuff.
Hayhouse sells a lot of books and a great letter writing campaign along with the information garnered sent to Louise Hay would get their attention.
As for t-shirts. I would love one, too. No talons. But, if we all started wearing them , people would at least remember the site, and check us out. It would not take long for the public to get informed. When lecture numbers drop, when readings are not booked and her tapes, books are not selling...
THAT is when you effect a change. IMHO
colin
13th June 2007, 02:07 PM
Slander Sylvia? oh ok...
Sylvia Browne, you're a liar, a fraud, a cheat, a heartless, uncaring huckster who needs to spend a minimum of 10 years behind bars in prison.
But...but... That's not "slander".:D
fuelair
13th June 2007, 02:20 PM
But...but... That's not "slander".:D
I'm afraid Colin's right - to be slander it has to be knowingly false (and said, not printed - but no worries - it isn't libel either since truth is absolute defense. Only argument I would have is the ten years in jail. I think the rest of her rotten life at hard labor would be much fairer.
slyjoe
13th June 2007, 02:22 PM
She could use some "libel" too you know.
Brattus
13th June 2007, 02:34 PM
Ok, Wiping off my highly fevered brow.:faint:
Now, at least for me, I can state that while RSL IS a man among men...it is clear that on JREF, there are many such people.
When those of who have been NS folks, began to read and understand what Robert was doing, it was a relief to find someone who had researched the data, and was totally open to hearing anything contrary (or similiar) should they want to submit it to him.
Therein, to this date...I have yet to see ANY such responses from those who think RSL is slandering Sylvia, by providing documentation contrary to what he is saying.
It has been very frustrating for us to deal with the betrayal of NS/Sylvia, and at the same time run around and apologize to those that we may have offended during our rose-colored period.
I am not a vigilante. I am someone who believes in justice and above all that our society for a long time now, talks about 'taking responsibility' for actions but conveniently leave out the 'accountability' factor. We are heartsick, believe it or not that we have had any part in supporting or defending Sylvia AND, I can tell you that almost all of us who have begun communicating off this board, are of this opinion: If we had known a smidgeon of this information before....we would have come forward.
I have trouble sleeping at night, now. I want to be in a room with Sylvia, and tell her that she is the lowest form of charlatan. But, I know that would be a waste of time.
What would not be a waste of time, would be to finally put an end to her reign of deceit and harm to others.
The sponsors of the programs that she visits LISTEN to consumers when they write and say, "I'm boycotting your product because_________. Send them some of this stuff.
Hayhouse sells a lot of books and a great letter writing campaign along with the information garnered sent to Louise Hay would get their attention.
As for t-shirts. I would love one, too. No talons. But, if we all started wearing them , people would at least remember the site, and check us out. It would not take long for the public to get informed. When lecture numbers drop, when readings are not booked and her tapes, books are not selling...
THAT is when you effect a change. IMHO
While your intentions are good no doubt. It's just like anything else. People have to come into there own on any kind of change.
If someone believes in Sylvia and what she does then seeing someone wear a t-shirt saying bad things about her no matter how mild will more than not drive their beliefs even stronger.
From what you posted you have been there. Did you believe and then someone said something bad about Sylvia once and it instantly changed your mind?
What Mr. Lancaster is doing is perfect no more or less. People will come to his site while they search for things about Sylvia online. They may not like what he has to share with them at first but a seed will be planted.
The thought proccess will begin. You can't stop a drug abuser from using by simply telling them that it is a bad thing. Just like you can't get them to stop using because you wear a t-shirt with drugs are bad printed on it.
Everyone has to come into their own on any kind of change. In their own time.
Darat
13th June 2007, 02:50 PM
...snip...
By starting the post with "I'm sure this will be deleted by mods........." they knew that it would NOT be deleted.
...snip...
ST
Well they were wrong - that would not stop a thread being deleted if it breached the rules in some way that warranted being deleted.
RSLancastr
13th June 2007, 03:02 PM
I want to buy a T-shirt from Robert's site but I don't like the claw graphic. Any chance that new T-shirts with just www.stopsylviabrowne.com on them Robert?Sorry TBT, but no.
The original merchandise on the site's CafePress page had the stopsign logo against a sky background, with "www.StopSylviaBrowne.com" in front (like my present avatar), but Browne's attorneys harrassed CafePress until they took that merchandise down.
I replaced it with the current merchandise, which only has the logo.
Browne's attorneys still harrassed CafePress to take those down as well, but CafePress declined.
I may be adding other graphics and or phrases to the merchandise, but I have been asked by Cafe Press to not put "Sylvia Browne" or "SylviaBrowne" on any merchandise I offer there.
RSLancastr
13th June 2007, 03:21 PM
Regarding this thread...
I appreciate the sentiment and support, but I don't think it is necessary to try and compensate for the "Stop RSL" thread.
I am not worried about anyone finding the "Stop Robert Lancaster" thread. I don't think it hurts my site's credibility one bit. Nor do I think any other similar posts on SB-friendly forums hurt me either.
If someone bothers to investigate those claims about me, that means that they will read the SSB site, which is a good thing. And if don't, but simply take those claims about me at face value, I don't think they would have been the type to consider the contents of my site even had they not read bad things about it.
And I don't think anyone here was getting "fevered," so don't worry about that. Everyone is trying to help, which I very, very much appreciate. I just don't think it's needed in this case.
I'm sure it will be at some point, though! :)
New obsession? I think his new bride would protest ;)I won't tell her if you won't! :)
And, to clarify my earlier comment about waking up in an "alternate universe", it was just odd to start my day reading a thread saying such things about me. That's all. I hope nobody took offense.
Jon.
13th June 2007, 03:28 PM
Thanks Jon, I was wondering about the ratings thing.
Heck! How many of those boxes go out anyway???
I always thought it just registered through the various cable companies or something...
You can find lots more info here (http://www.nielsenmedia.com/nc/portal/site/Public/menuitem.30ca06af534c8631458d971047a062a0/?vgnextoid=610f47f8b5264010VgnVCM100000880a260aRCR D), if you are really interested. I'm afraid I'm not interested enough to dig through it much.
Reno
13th June 2007, 03:40 PM
well, it's pretty difficult to say anything worse about Browne than the truth, so my attempt at slander (or libel) is done :)
Just to clarify my own position regarding Browne in case anyone is in any doubt: I want her rotting in a cardboard box on the street, collecting cans in a cart and fighting over the leftover McDonalds McChicken McNuggets as soon as possible.
Folly
13th June 2007, 04:04 PM
Maybe all of us ex-NS'ers or ex-SB'ers, as we are referred to, should do what we can and band together elsewhere and stop bothering these nice people here at JREF? I dunno!!
No! It's not my forum, I'm not an admin, and I can't even claim to speak for everyone (at least with a straight face) but I figure you should stay right where you are. If any grumpy people are not enjoying the enthusiasm for RSL's work on SSB, well... there are other threads to read. This seems like the perfect place to have someone who is interested, for whatever reason, in a claimed psychic.
(Also, for anyone who happens to misinterpret what I said, please note that I am most definitely not obliquely accusing Reno here of being grouchy: that's not at all what I read into his post!)
TruthBeTold
13th June 2007, 04:18 PM
No! It's not my forum, I'm not an admin, and I can't even claim to speak for everyone (at least with a straight face) but I figure you should stay right where you are. If any grumpy people are not enjoying the enthusiasm for RSL's work on SSB, well... there are other threads to read. This seems like the perfect place to have someone who is interested, for whatever reason, in a claimed psychic.
(Also, for anyone who happens to misinterpret what I said, please note that I am most definitely not obliquely accusing Reno here of being grouchy: that's not at all what I read into his post!)
I said that somewhat with tongue in cheek but I've sensed a bit of over-staying our welcome once or twice.
And, I too cannot speak for everyone but I think that many ex-NS'ers and ex-SBers who have posted frequently here lately are mainly trying to let other people know that it's safe to come out of hiding and to assist Robert with any information we have that we feel would help him.
I think we get the courage to speak out by having others here...:)
tracer
13th June 2007, 04:33 PM
I also find it extremely telling that despite many calls for Sylvia Browne to come out and defend/challenge what Robert has printed; she refuses and leaves it to the fans who know practically nothing about this.
I don't find that surprising at all.
I'd suspect that most of Sylvia Browne's business comes from casual fans who only see her on TV and occasionally peek at her website. These fans won't even know about the EXISTENCE of stopsylviabrowne.com . If Sylvia herself stepped up and defended herself against Robert, her casual fans would suddenly become AWARE of Robert, thereby allowing them to view the "other side" of the story. And if they ever did THAT, a good number of them would realize that Sylvia Browne has bamboozled them and would drop her like a hot potato.
By pretending that her detractors don't even exist, Sylvia's doing exactly what you'd expect a charlatan with a wide following to do.
Ducky
13th June 2007, 04:48 PM
Look who cares if a thread title about slander comes first or not? RSL is a consummate gentleman and always polite and forthright. Let them click on the link. His first response to Srox is enough to win anyone over.
Brattus
13th June 2007, 06:27 PM
Well my worthless opinion is that I think it's great that the exSBFs are here sharing their experiences.
I read the stop Kaz site about a year ago and was very impressed with Mr. Lancaster. It wasn't hateful or mean humored even though it could of been.
Just fact after fact after fact.
About 2 months ago I was surfing around looking for some good net reading and found this site. I seen a post by Mr. Lancaster and remembered his name from the Kaz site.
After finding out it was the same person behind the stop kaz site Mr. Lancaster invited me to read his SSB site.
I had kinda sorta heard of her before that. I have never had a need to ever watch a Montel show and doubt I ever will. I had no idea what a low person she was. After reading Mr. Lancasters site front to back it was clear to me that she was just as bad as those other "talking to the dead" frauds.
My own experience with that is when my Father died he was on life support for 3 days before he was "all the way gone". My Father during those 3 days was dead. The life support kept his chest going up and down but he was completely brain dead. I of course did not want him to be that way but he was nonetheless.
My sister had hired a "psychic" to "enter" my Fathers mind and share thoughts between him and my sister. She paid this woman $300 to do this.
When I entered my Fathers hospital room and seen what was going on I wigged out!
After all these years I still can not get that right in my head. That woman was using my Fathers remains as a prop to put on her little show and get the money. I fully understand there are unresolved issues between my sister and Father but unresolved is all they will ever be.
After 15 years my sister still hates me over that and has never spoken to me since. The day after the "psychic" thing I signed the papers to have life support turned off on my Father. As soon as the off button was hit he was "all the way gone". My sister firmly believes I killed my Father by doing that and went to the police to try and have me arrested. The "psychic" told my sister that in her brief connection with my Father she felt his life force was very strong. That my Father was only in a deep sleep and with prayers and patience he would awaken good as new.
So needless to say my thoughts are quite clear on "psychics".
articulett
13th June 2007, 06:41 PM
Slander Sylvia? oh ok...
Sylvia Browne, you're a liar, a fraud, a cheat, a heartless, uncaring huckster who needs to spend a minimum of 10 years behind bars in prison.
If you'd like my name and address, I'm more than happy to supply it on asking.
She can just ask her dead friends to supply it, can't she?
Pipirr
13th June 2007, 06:44 PM
Well my worthless opinion is that I think it's great that the exSBFs are here sharing their experiences.
I read the stop Kaz site about a year ago and was very impressed with Mr. Lancaster. It wasn't hateful or mean humored even though it could of been.
Just fact after fact after fact.
About 2 months ago I was surfing around looking for some good net reading and found this site. I seen a post by Mr. Lancaster and remembered his name from the Kaz site.
After finding out it was the same person behind the stop kaz site Mr. Lancaster invited me to read his SSB site.
I had kinda sorta heard of her before that. I have never had a need to ever watch a Montel show and doubt I ever will. I had no idea what a low person she was. After reading Mr. Lancasters site front to back it was clear to me that she was just as bad as those other "talking to the dead" frauds.
My own experience with that is when my Father died he was on life support for 3 days before he was "all the way gone". My Father during those 3 days was dead. The life support kept his chest going up and down but he was completely brain dead. I of course did not want him to be that way but he was nonetheless.
My sister had hired a "psychic" to "enter" my Fathers mind and share thoughts between him and my sister. She paid this woman $300 to do this.
When I entered my Fathers hospital room and seen what was going on I wigged out!
After all these years I still can not get that right in my head. That woman was using my Fathers remains as a prop to put on her little show and get the money. I fully understand there are unresolved issues between my sister and Father but unresolved is all they will ever be.
After 15 years my sister still hates me over that and has never spoken to me since. The day after the "psychic" thing I signed the papers to have life support turned off on my Father. As soon as the off button was hit he was "all the way gone". My sister firmly believes I killed my Father by doing that and went to the police to try and have me arrested. The "psychic" told my sister that in her brief connection with my Father she felt his life force was very strong. That my Father was only in a deep sleep and with prayers and patience he would awaken good as new.
So needless to say my thoughts are quite clear on "psychics".
Man, that's just about the saddest thing I've ever read on this forum. So sorry.
And your opinion is most assuredly not worthless.
PastBrowneFan
13th June 2007, 08:03 PM
Pressure has been put on SB and NS for sure, but I think that to really put on pressure, as angrybeliever has stated, one must hit where it counts, money.
I'm looking into ways that will not only involve skeptics, former and current NS people, but many others who are against SB and all she stands for.
Since the vast majority of SB fans know of her through Montel, it makes sense that that would be the best place to start.
Still in beginning stages, but anyone that really wants to knock Miss B off of her throne paid for by money from grieving families think of ways to help.
PBF
p.s. Brattus, I would have freaked out too and thrown the charlatan out of the room.
Ducky
13th June 2007, 08:19 PM
Will it involve throwing bags of burning dogpoop at her?
Cause I could get behind that.
streamlet
13th June 2007, 09:08 PM
I briefly pondered printing out business-card sized slips of paper with the stopsylviabrowne address on them and sticking them in the SB books at Borders. Then I had second thoughts and decided not to. Forget what the second thoughts WERE but they made sense at the time.
Cuddles
14th June 2007, 02:18 AM
I'm afraid Colin's right - to be slander it has to be knowingly false (and said, not printed - but no worries - it isn't libel either since truth is absolute defense. Only argument I would have is the ten years in jail. I think the rest of her rotten life at hard labor would be much fairer.
Maybe he was using voice recognition software to dictate it. Then it could count as slander and libel.
StopSylviaBrowne can be found at the Castle of Arrrggghhhhhhh...
Baron Samedi
14th June 2007, 02:55 AM
I said that somewhat with tongue in cheek but I've sensed a bit of over-staying our welcome once or twice.
And, I too cannot speak for everyone but I think that many ex-NS'ers and ex-SBers who have posted frequently here lately are mainly trying to let other people know that it's safe to come out of hiding and to assist Robert with any information we have that we feel would help him.
I think we get the courage to speak out by having others here...:)
Hey now! Speaking for myself, there's been no over-staying. Okay, maybe one case (The Sparrow shall roost. Contact Panda!), but heck, I like hearing all the different opinions and experiences. We're all free to jump in and discuss things rationally, or non-rationally, but rarely irrationally. That's why I enjoy coming here -- the wonderful rich discussions that go on. Rarely does it ever stumble into, "Like, OMG! That Randi is like so cool!" "Like, really! I like Randi too!" "Randi's not cool, he's hot!" "Like, OMG!" "Word!".
So... erm... yeah. Please keep posting. :D
*resets to lurk mode*
Tricky
14th June 2007, 04:12 PM
In this alternate universe, RSL, you're required to wear tights and run around the city in a cape stopping all psychics.
Yeah. Scooby Doo's retired.
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