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UnrepentantSinner
19th August 2003, 11:21 PM
One of the guys on the housekeeping crew at work is a good looking guy who looks like he works out. He's also about 5'3". Every once in a while when I see him he reminds me of the experiment that 20/20 or Dateline did some years ago about short men. Apparently in order to get a woman to date a short guy he needs to be a millionare doctor, world traveller, who grows and bottles his own wine for his 5 star resaurant where he is head chef.

Surely our skepchicks aren't that shallow? So how about it ladies, would you date or marry a short guy, and if so, what's the cut off hight?

QuarkChild
20th August 2003, 01:56 AM
I have a physics professor who isn't much taller than 5 feet. (I'm 5'7"). If he wasn't way too old for me, I would totally date him. :)

He's cute. And a string theorist!

PS:
For all I know he might be married.

reprise
20th August 2003, 02:56 AM
5 or 6 of my ex-lovers have been around the same height as me (165 cm) or shorter. It definitely has some advantages where sex is concerned.

Missy
20th August 2003, 04:08 AM
Before I vote.. How short exactly??

LillyThePink
20th August 2003, 04:27 AM
I voted yes. Mine is about 5' 10 or something, and I'm not just dating, I'm marrying him!

I would draw the line at Danny De Vito *shudder* but I think that's more to do with pug-ugly, because I would definitely have gone for Dudley Moore.

zakur
20th August 2003, 06:37 AM
Originally posted by UnrepentantSinner
Every once in a while when I see him he reminds me of the experiment that 20/20 or Dateline did some years ago about short men. Apparently in order to get a woman to date a short guy he needs to be a millionare doctor, world traveller, who grows and bottles his own wine for his 5 star resaurant where he is head chef.That was a very interesting experiment they conducted. For those who missed it, you can read the story here (http://abcnews.go.com/sections/2020/DailyNews/2020_lookism_020823.html). Check this out:McGinty helped ABCNEWS put together an experiment to test just how willing women are to date shorter men. We brought together several short men and asked them to stand next to taller men. We invited groups of women to look at the men and choose a date.

To see if the women would go for short guys who were successful, ABCNEWS' Lynn Sherr created extraordinary résumés for the shorter men. She told the women that the shorter men included a doctor, a best-selling author, a champion skier, a venture capitalist who'd made millions by the age of 25.

Nothing worked. The women always chose the tall men. Sherr asked whether there'd be anything she could say that would make the shortest of the men, who was 5 feet, irresistible. One of the women replied, "Maybe the only thing you could say is that the other four are murderers." Another backed her up, saying that had the taller men had a criminal record she might have been swayed to choose a shorter man. Another said she'd have considered the shorter men, if the taller men had been described as "child molesters.":eek:

UnrepentantSinner
20th August 2003, 07:40 AM
Originally posted by Missy
Before I vote.. How short exactly??

Let's say below 5'6 or 175cm (does quick math in his head).

Zakur, thanks for digging that up. That's the show I was talking about.

I didn't add this earlier, but I wanted a reply based poll. The guy I mentioned is Fillipeno and doesn't speak English that well. But, as I said, he's fairly buff and pretty good looking (from a guy judging competition POV). I'm 6'2", not very good looking and need to hit the gym.. to say the least. I speak English and am very Anglo.

So who of us would win on Elimidate?

Boo
20th August 2003, 08:32 AM
One of the nice things about being 5'4" is that everybody is tall. I have dated men ranging from 5'3" to 6'4". Height has never been a factor in deciding whom I would date.

BTW, my husband is 6'4". Sometimes I think it would be nice to be with someone that didn't place things on the top shelf. He calls it job security.:D



Boo

Luciana
20th August 2003, 11:58 AM
Originally posted by Boo
One of the nice things about being 5'4" is that everybody is tall.

Same here. :D

Short, yes; shorter than me, no way.

Peach Jr.
20th August 2003, 01:32 PM
Same here, except I'm 5' 1". Most of the world, in fact, is taller than me. I have dated men that others would consider short (for these purposes, I guess under 5'9" would do). My current Mr., however, is 6'2". For what it's worth, we've found ... ways around the height differences.


:D

kittynh
20th August 2003, 04:04 PM
well, I did date a guy an inch shorter than myself. I found myself in the Nicole Kidman situation...never being able to wear heels. I had more nice flat shoes. It was his hang up though, and one of the reasons I decided to NOT marry him. I think I would like dating a short guy who doesn't mind if I wear heels and can accept our height differences. Plus, he would be easier to hide under the bed if Pool Boy comes home unexpectedly (just kidding....) I have to say that when I dated Pool Boy it was nice to look UP. Makes a girl all mushy....

Glory
20th August 2003, 04:40 PM
I am married so I don't get many dates but, I have been known to find short men attractive. I would not rule out a man because he was short. I would not alter my behaviour because of a man's small stature either. I am 5' 7" and I like high heels on occasion. Who cares what others think about how we look together?

However,I suppose, for honesty's sake, I should disclose that my husband is 6' 3".

Glory

UnrepentantSinner
21st August 2003, 01:01 AM
Lily, 5'10" hardly constitutes short...

Yahweh
21st August 2003, 01:43 AM
I'm about 6 feet tall, my wife is around 5'7. If there was a larger height difference, it wouldnt matter.

Missy
21st August 2003, 02:29 AM
I voted 'yes' in the end. I'm a shortie myself (about 5'4). I hate picturing myself trying to stretch up on my tiptoes for a goodnight kiss with a tall guy. :rolleyes:

So I guess I like short guys... My size :).

UnrepentantSinner
21st August 2003, 03:06 AM
I'm actually quite surprised. While some of you seem to have a preferance (judging by your husbands) you all seem very open minded (and Missy, you actually buck the conventional wisdom by wanting someone closer to your own hight) about this issue.

I was thinking about posting a poll asking if men would date tall women (over 6') but I think we're a lot more shallow a gender than that.
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Glory
21st August 2003, 12:41 PM
I freely admit that I am very atypical compared to most women where chosing men is concerned. As long as a man is not actually offensive in some way, I'll give him a chance, or, I would were I not married. Things that many women would deem nonnegotiables are not a problem for me. I have found myself attracted to short men, bald men, overweight men (granted not hugely overweight), poor men (my husband is not wealthy by anyone's standards), and geeky men. The biggest turn on for me is intelegence and stupidity is the biggest turn off. Everything else is balanced against those two extremes. It has always amazed me that grown women would toss aside a wonderful man simply because he wasn't physically perfect or capable of giving her a better lifestyle than she already has. But then, alot of things amaze me including the fact that I am so different from every woman I have ever known. Alas...

Glory

Cleopatra
21st August 2003, 01:14 PM
It's difficult to find a man higher than the 1.96 that I am so I have been dating with shorter men the whole of my life :)

Only once I was seeing somebody who was 2.04 and as reprise said it had a lot of advantages... although... oh shut up Cleopatra! :p

Unrepentant Sinner, maybe you should have posted the other poll ;)

arcticpenguin
21st August 2003, 03:48 PM
Originally posted by Cleopatra
It's difficult to find a man higher than the 1.96 that I am so I have been dating with shorter men the whole of my life :)

Only once I was seeing somebody who was 2.04 and as reprise said it had a lot of advantages... although... oh shut up Cleopatra! :p

Unrepentant Sinner, maybe you should have posted the other poll ;)
Previously you claimed to be 1.86 m tall.

Cleopatra
21st August 2003, 03:56 PM
Obviously miss typed! I guess you will have the opportunity to measure me in TAM , I doubt if I can get taller in some months :p

arcticpenguin
21st August 2003, 04:14 PM
You mis-typed previously, or you mis-typed in this thread?

Cleopatra
21st August 2003, 04:30 PM
Let me think... :p

In this thread. My height varies from 1,84-86, it depends on the wall I guess!

UnrepentantSinner
22nd August 2003, 08:34 AM
I really wish more Skepchicks would offer their opinions on this.

scarlet_35
22nd August 2003, 09:23 PM
I have never dated a man that was shorter than me, partly because I am also short 5ft 3 in. but even if I were taller I don't think I'd date a man shorter than me.

To me having a man that is a little taller than me, makes me feel safer. If he's shorter I'd feel more like his mother with him having to look up at me all the time and me looking down at him when I'm yelling at him.

But, if I weren't married now, who knows, anything is possible and I do change my mind sometimes :)

Eos of the Eons
25th August 2003, 10:35 AM
I'm 5' 1", so all men are taller than me. I purposely picked short cute guys when I was dating.

Tall men make me feel like a kid. I hate that. It was the taller guys in my schools that tortured me, so I kind of hate tall guys. I don't really judge until I know them, but I'd rather talk to someone under 5' 7". I find big people are more arrogant most of the time, especially around short people. You're not smarter just because you're taller :p

LW
26th August 2003, 08:53 AM
Originally posted by LillyThePink
I voted yes. Mine is about 5' 10 or something, and I'm not just dating, I'm marrying him!

After a quick conversion I noted that I'm 5' 10" tall (to be precise, I'm 0.1 inches taller than that) and I have vague recollections that it is the average height of men in Northern Europe. Definitely not short.

LW
26th August 2003, 08:57 AM
Originally posted by UnrepentantSinner


I was thinking about posting a poll asking if men would date tall women (over 6') but I think we're a lot more shallow a gender than that.
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I know several women who are taller than that, and yes, I would date them (if I didn't already have a girlfriend). Though, I have to admit that I fall in love much easier to women who are slightly shorter than me.

Faustina
26th August 2003, 09:46 AM
Nothing worked. The women always chose the tall men. Sherr asked whether there'd be anything she could say that would make the shortest of the men, who was 5 feet, irresistible. One of the women replied, "Maybe the only thing you could say is that the other four are murderers." Another backed her up, saying that had the taller men had a criminal record she might have been swayed to choose a shorter man. Another said she'd have considered the shorter men, if the taller men had been described as "child molesters."


Whenever I see something like this, I just have to wonder where they dig up these shallow sub-humans. As for myself I've dated both short and tall guys. Never made any difference to me.

UnrepentantSinner
27th August 2003, 08:22 AM
Originally posted by LW


I know several women who are taller than that, and yes, I would date them (if I didn't already have a girlfriend). Though, I have to admit that I fall in love much easier to women who are slightly shorter than me.

I'm weird that way LW. I love 'em petite (5'4" and under) and tall (5' 10" and over). I have persued women in those ranges all my life, yet every woman I've ever dated was between 5' 5" and 5' 8". Don't get me started about the 6' 1" exchange student we had from Bergen... female btw.

Eos, I'm 6'2". If you're ever on the market, let me know and we'll cuddle. I'll be far too into you to exude even the slightest hint of arrogance.

Eos of the Eons
27th August 2003, 09:45 AM
:p

When I thought about it enough, I remembered one tall guy I worked with at Dow who was really really nice. I think his wife was fairly short. My cousin married a really tall guy and she's my size. He's OK too.

I don't know if I would have dated them no matter how nice they were because of the feeling like a kid thing. I'm sure there's some guys out there that might be able to change that perception, but by the time I'll ever be single I'll be like a hundred!

Thanks for the offer UnrepentantSinner, maybe you're one of the nice ones. Good luck with the ladies :)

Clancie
2nd September 2003, 07:13 PM
Hi U.S.,

Well, I'm guessing you mean "shorter than you." And I'm going to be perfectly honest, even though I really want to say, "Of course I would! It's the person that really counts!"

In college I dated two men who were a couple of inches shorter than I am (I'm 5'7). They were good looking, intelligent, fun--great guys, but in all honesty, I really wished they were taller.

I like "tall" but I've dated men who were my height or slightly taller and that's okay. But shorter...honestly, I didn't really like it. :(

(But the money thing--much or a little--would be absolutely no factor at all. Height...yes. Money...no. That much I can say at least :) ).

UnrepentantSinner
3rd September 2003, 07:52 AM
Originally posted by scarlet_35
I have never dated a man that was shorter than me, partly because I am also short 5ft 3 in.

Gee, as if I didn't have enough reasons to be jealous of Bryan.

Reprise, I find your comments refreshing in an evolutionary sense. It means that even if I'm not some macho media sense that I can be attractive for having 10 or 11 inches on the woman I'm persuing.

Melissa Johnson
4th September 2003, 02:01 PM
Originally posted by Faustina



Whenever I see something like this, I just have to wonder where they dig up these shallow sub-humans. As for myself I've dated both short and tall guys. Never made any difference to me.

Shallow sub-humans? I resemble that remark :D I wouldn't have a problem with a shorter guy; most of the time it's the guys that have the problem with me. I'm on the high side of 5'9" and even in moderate heels I'm brushing 6.0. Married to a guy who's just at 6.0 and we fit together nicely, I think.

No, I don't think I'd have a problem with dating shorter guys, provided they don't have a problem with looking up at me. In my past experiences, short men seem to have found this either unattractive or embarrassing. Either way, it didn't work.

Melissa Johnson
4th September 2003, 02:04 PM
Originally posted by Clancie

(But the money thing--much or a little--would be absolutely no factor at all. Height...yes. Money...no. That much I can say at least :) ).



I always like to say "I married for money."

It isn't true, but it gets really good expressions. Then I can always throw out the line, "But I was misinformed," which is usually good for a couple of laughs...

Or maybe not...:D

KillerBob
4th September 2003, 02:48 PM
Originally posted by Missy
I voted 'yes' in the end. I'm a shortie myself (about 5'4). I hate picturing myself trying to stretch up on my tiptoes for a goodnight kiss with a tall guy. :rolleyes:


Are you picturing the guy in some sort of back brace? :p

I'm 6' 7", my wife is 5' 3" and we really have no problems kissing or doing other, ahem, things. I find that it's not very difficult to lean over a bit. ;)

Zep
4th September 2003, 05:56 PM
I'm 6'1", Mrs Zep is 5'1". We cope fine, thanks. I just pick her up if needs be...

belinda
4th September 2003, 07:31 PM
I voted only if he had money....but that was only :p . Honestly I have dated guys who have been shorter and guys who have been taller than me ( I am 165cm). Height really doesn't bother me....it is more his ability to hold up his own end of a conversation that interests me.

(Warning - made up statistics follow) - Most teenage girls would NOT date a shorter guy - but as you mature you look for more that just the physical attractions, (although it still counts . :wink: )

Chanileslie
4th September 2003, 10:14 PM
Originally posted by UnrepentantSinner
One of the guys on the housekeeping crew at work is a good looking guy who looks like he works out. He's also about 5'3". Every once in a while when I see him he reminds me of the experiment that 20/20 or Dateline did some years ago about short men. Apparently in order to get a woman to date a short guy he needs to be a millionare doctor, world traveller, who grows and bottles his own wine for his 5 star resaurant where he is head chef.

Surely our skepchicks aren't that shallow? So how about it ladies, would you date or marry a short guy, and if so, what's the cut off hight?

Depends on how interesting and intelligent he is. Looks mean little, but a great mind is everything.

rachaella
5th September 2003, 08:55 AM
I'm 4'10" so there isn't much fear of guys being shorter than me. However, given that very slim possibility, I don't think I could date someone shorter than I am.

UnrepentantSinner
5th September 2003, 10:29 AM
Originally posted by rachaella
I'm 4'10" so there isn't much fear of guys being shorter than me. However, given that very slim possibility, I don't think I could date someone shorter than I am.

{Swoon}

Melissa Johnson
5th September 2003, 02:36 PM
Returning to this thread, I had to give this some thought. I'd like to be open minded on the subject, but to be perfectly honest, I doubt that I would date a man shorter than myself unless there was some overwhelming attraction--i.e. I found him to be a kind, funny, intelligent man. I'd add to that I'd probably not date any man unless that was the case, but the lack of height would be a (ahem) shortcoming in my perception.

And I'd like to say that looks aren't everything, just as money can't buy love or happiness, but I can't agree. Just because Stephen Hawking is a brilliant physicist doesn't mean I want to play tonsil hockey with him. I doubt that I would be sexually attracted to a morbidly obese man, either. I doubt that I'm alone in that statement. I certainly wouldn't dislike anyone strictly on the basis of looks alone, but honestly speaking, in terms of love and romance, the looks do have a bearing. Of course, my definition of 'handsome' is pretty broad. I find Joe Bob Briggs to be swoon-worthy, and I've tried to get the husband to dress in western shirts and bolo ties, but it ain't happening. :D

Denise
5th September 2003, 05:40 PM
I'm about 5 foot 3, and I have hardly met any men shorter than me. I have dated a man who was about 5 foot 5 inches. If I was attracted by a man shorter than me I'm sure I would date him- if I dated. Anyhow, you get the idea.

So yes, I would date a short man. I would date a fat man. I have dated stupid men- don't think I'll do that again!:D

rachaella
6th September 2003, 07:24 PM
Originally posted by UnrepentantSinner


{Swoon}

;)

UnrepentantSinner
7th September 2003, 05:13 AM
Originally posted by Melissa Johnson
I find Joe Bob Briggs to be swoon-worthy, and I've tried to get the husband to dress in western shirts and bolo ties, but it ain't happening. :D

I'm conflicted, but I simultaneously find that tremendously attractive and tremendously disturbing. ;)

Melissa Johnson
8th September 2003, 09:16 AM
Originally posted by UnrepentantSinner


I'm conflicted, but I simultaneously find that tremendously attractive and tremendously disturbing. ;)

You have no idea the amount of time I've wasted watching Monstervision on TNT just to get Briggs' commentary at the end..
well, maybe I just gave you an idee...I miss that show, if not the movies exactly. Dinner And A Movie just doesn't compete with Briggs' witticisms and Brylcreem hairdo.

Originally posted by Denise So yes, I would date a short man. I would date a fat man. I have dated stupid men- don't think I'll do that again!

heh heh...stupid men...ain't we all done that...:roll:

Eos of the Eons
8th September 2003, 06:34 PM
Yeah, unfortunately it's when we are dumb and naive that we date these stupid men. Oh well, gotta learn somehow, even if it is the hard way. At 30 I think I can tell most stupid men from smart ones. I like to think so...

It's hard to find stupid men on this site though. In real life it's too darn easy.

Glory
8th September 2003, 07:01 PM
Originally posted by Eos of the Eons
Yeah, unfortunately it's when we are dumb and naive that we date these stupid men. Oh well, gotta learn somehow, even if it is the hard way. At 30 I think I can tell most stupid men from smart ones. I like to think so...

It's hard to find stupid men on this site though. In real life it's too darn easy.

Some men are quite good at concealing their stupidity for long periods of time. They are the dangerous ones.

Glory

Eos of the Eons
8th September 2003, 07:16 PM
:D
If they're so stupid, then how can they can conceal it so well? Are they the 'smart' stupid men we know as con artists? More like conniving maybe.

If we're smarter we can spot them a mile away too. If not, then I fear we may be hypocrites, sigh. I can proudly say I have been able to date a con and dump him before losing my life's earning on him! I also may have been able to hurt him more than he tried to con me ;) I've been called the B name a lot :D

Serves him right for telling me he needed money for a hair cut and then bought beer...yeah yeah we had just moved and hadn't got a pay cheque from our new jobs yet.

It really took the cake when he back ended someone and asked me to jump in the driver's seat though. Turns out he had no license or insurance, etc. Huh. The things you learn about the charmers. Not so charming when they try to make you take the fall for them! Ugh. At least his car window got smashed and his expensive stereo ripped out after I left him. No, I didn't have anything to do with it! I just felt very good after hearing about it :p

RSLancastr
8th September 2003, 07:25 PM
Originally posted by Eos of the Eons
:Serves him right for telling me he needed money for a hair cut and then bought beer...Maybe "a hair cut" was slang for "a six-pack" where he comes from! :D

Eos of the Eons
8th September 2003, 08:33 PM
:D
Galldangit! Why wasn't I smart enough to know that! ;)

UKBoy1977
11th September 2003, 11:11 AM
Interesting to read this thread as I have been wondering about the other end of the scale. How do women feel about very tall men?

I am 6'6" and have recently joined an internet dating site. For any lady's profile you look at it tells you whether your profile matches her criteria and I have been stunned to see that, of the ones I have seen (which admittedly is a small sample compared to everyone on the site) around 1/2 to 3/4 of the women say they don't want a man over 6'3"!

Now I've always been quite proud of my height and thought it was good for attracting girls but now I have to wonder. Are men over 6'3" too freaky for most women?

Glory
11th September 2003, 03:02 PM
Originally posted by UKBoy1977
Interesting to read this thread as I have been wondering about the other end of the scale. How do women feel about very tall men?

I am 6'6" and have recently joined an internet dating site. For any lady's profile you look at it tells you whether your profile matches her criteria and I have been stunned to see that, of the ones I have seen (which admittedly is a small sample compared to everyone on the site) around 1/2 to 3/4 of the women say they don't want a man over 6'3"!

Now I've always been quite proud of my height and thought it was good for attracting girls but now I have to wonder. Are men over 6'3" too freaky for most women?

I am very attracted to tall men, but, that attraction can be tempered by related factors. For instance, I used to know a guy who was 6'8". Upon meeting him, all lot of people would ask him if he was a basketball player. (I know, I know, it's obnoxious) Well, all one had to do was watch him move for about 15 seconds to know that he was not an athlete. He was awkward and seemed uncomfortable with his size. It was also clear that most things in human society aren't made for people as tall as him.

I aslo think that many women have images of Jack Cassidy in mind when they say that very tall men aren't what they are looking for.

Obviously, many tall men are athletic, graceful and not at all physically awkward. As always, it depends on the individual.

Glory

Luciana
11th September 2003, 03:04 PM
Now I've always been quite proud of my height and thought it was good for attracting girls but now I have to wonder. Are men over 6'3" too freaky for most women?

To me, it's absolutely indifferent how much taller he is, and long as he is taller in the first place. :)

Really, I too didn't know that "too tall" could be an inconvenient.

Abdul Alhazred
11th September 2003, 05:32 PM
Originally posted by UnrepentantSinner

Surely our skepchicks aren't that shallow? So how about it ladies, would you date or marry a short guy, and if so, what's the cut off hight?

This needs to be balanced with the question of whether men will date a tall woman.

I'm 6'4" myself (190 cm) and I see few women taller than me. But when I do see them, if they are reasonably OK looking, their height is an additional attraction.

In my experience, it is average or slightly below average height men who have a problem with womens' height.

Really short men tend to prefer the tallest women they can get, at least in my observation.

UKBoy1977
11th September 2003, 05:45 PM
I have to admit, I did meet a girl who was about 6'5" once and it just freaked me out! As I am used to towering over most people and particularly women, it was just too weird. Maybe I could get used to it, I don't know after all it does mean there's more of them to love!

arcticpenguin
11th September 2003, 06:02 PM
Originally posted by Glory

It was also clear that most things in human society aren't made for people as tall as him.
Glory
I can testify that the doorways in some Japanese private homes and hostels are less than 186 cm in height.

Glory
12th September 2003, 07:54 AM
I have been led to understand that I would be unable to buy shoes in Asia and Japan. Apparantly they only go up to a size 8 for ladies. As a 91/2 my feet are freakishly large to them.

Glory

Luciana
12th September 2003, 09:15 AM
I have been led to understand that I would be unable to buy shoes in Asia and Japan. Apparantly they only go up to a size 8 for ladies. As a 91/2 my feet are freakishly large to them.

:eek: In Brazil you'd be hard-pressed to find female shoes this size, too. You'd have to make special requests.

MoeFaux
15th September 2003, 02:18 PM
I'm 5'9". I date tall. I prefer 6'2" and up...with my ideal man being built like a lumberjack.

Of course, whoever set up the poll should have specified what "date" meant. Because there's date and then there's "date".

NoZed Avenger
15th September 2003, 02:33 PM
Forget all this stuff.

Move on to really pressing issues: what about men with big noses?

MoeFaux
15th September 2003, 02:40 PM
Yes, I'll date a man with a big nose.
They come in handy sometimes.
Move on, what next?

Denise
15th September 2003, 07:21 PM
My first ever kiss was from a boy who was about 6 foot 4. I was 15 he was 16...

Anyhow, to me, dating a man that much taller than me is kind of awkward as well as intimidating to be honest. Slow dancing is not possible cheek to cheek to say the least!:D

Denise
15th September 2003, 07:23 PM
Originally posted by NoZed Avenger
Forget all this stuff.

Move on to really pressing issues: what about men with big noses?

I thought a big nose translated into a big......;)

NoZed Avenger
15th September 2003, 08:42 PM
Originally posted by Denise


I thought a big nose translated into a big


- Sneeze?

N/A

Eos of the Eons
16th September 2003, 01:07 AM
And what about big noses on women...

Yahweh
16th September 2003, 01:45 AM
What about hair, where do you gals stand on the whole hair issue.

Mrs. Yahweh agrees, I have perfect hair.

Just a quick description: I have very fine hair (its always been like that), its not long but not short either (medium I guess), its dark blonde, I brush the hair straight down because any other style and I look "retarded", and Dove shampoos made it both silky and smooth.

NoZed Avenger
16th September 2003, 08:53 AM
Originally posted by Eos of the Eons
And what about big noses on women...

I'd like that, but most women refuse.

N/A

I'll be here all week folks. Don't forget to try the veal.

Glory
18th September 2003, 07:18 PM
Originally posted by Yahweh
What about hair, where do you gals stand on the whole hair issue.

Mrs. Yahweh agrees, I have perfect hair.

Just a quick description: I have very fine hair (its always been like that), its not long but not short either (medium I guess), its dark blonde, I brush the hair straight down because any other style and I look "retarded", and Dove shampoos made it both silky and smooth.

Hair used to be really important to me. Not anymore. I am bored with it. If you have great hair, good for you. If you don't, as long as it's not offensive, I don't care that much. If you're bald, okey dokey, I can deal with that. I have known a couple of very attractive bald men.

Hair on woman is of more interest to me but ultimately, aren't there other things to pay attention to? As long as you don't look like Cousin It you're fine.

Glory

AmateurScientist
18th September 2003, 08:06 PM
I find it interesting that the polls show women don't find short men attractive, yet so many of the Hollywood leading men are rather short. This includes many of the ones who make the People Magazine's Sexiest Man Alive. Mel Gibson, for instance, is about 5'8" (about 1.72 m). Tom Cruise is famously short (5'6"), as is Robert Redford (5'7"). Paul Newman is 5'9", as is Hollywood tough guy Robert DeNiro. Al Pacino is 5'6." Colin Farrell, the current "it" boy, is about 5'6". I doubt that many of the young women who claim they wouldn't date short guys would turn him down.

The list goes on and on. Some of these guys are close to "average," but none of them is tall.

Counterexamples exist, of course, as Brad Pitt is about 6', for instance.

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Anyway, I'm 5'9" (1.75 m) and I've dated several girls my height, and even a few two inches or so taller. It never seemed to be much of an issue for either of us.

I suppose my ideal height for a woman is about 5'4" to 5'7" (1.62 to 1.70 m).

I suppose I am pretty superficial when it comes to weight. I won't date a girl who weighs as much as me. I'm about 192 lb., or 87.5 kg. I don't think this has ever been much of an issue, however.

I'm glad to hear several skepchicks say they don't care too much about height.

AS

Eos of the Eons
18th September 2003, 09:21 PM
I used to think Michael J. Fox was a hottie back in the day:)

MoeFaux
18th September 2003, 09:23 PM
Hair doesn't matter at all to me. I'm dating a man who has the best hair in the world, but, that's just part of him. I've had a lot of fun in the past with a bald man.
When it comes to men, I like haveing something interesting to look at. I like the not so average guy. I'm not exagerating when I say that Chippendales dancers make me sick to my stomach. If you've got ripped abs, I won't even look at you, let alone date you.
But, I'm sorry, height plays a huge role in who I date. Even my attraction to Hollywood celebrities is based first on height. Clint Eastwood is what, 6' 4"? I have a crush on Alan Rickman but I'm reluctant to find out his height because I suspect he's shorter than me. That changed my mind on Ed Harris.
It's completley shallow. It is.
But, men judge women on their looks as well. I suppose for me it's like looking for that Adonis. I'm attracted to men based on height and brains.
I won't, however, go for a man who's thighs are thinner than mine. I'm tiny, and I want a good hunk of man, not someone who is going to make me feel big.

I think though, what you're searching for is reassurance that women are attracted to men who aren't the average "stud". And you know, they are. People are attracted to everything. Everyone has their kinks. From men who love BBW (that's Big Beautiful Women to you, google it) to women who love Chippendales, people are attracted to everything.
I like older men with a little fat on them. I don't think that's as common as women likeing shorter men. I have a Little Person friend who is just astonishing with women. He's always dating 6' tall blondes. It's great.

Don't worry about your height. Make it work for you, empower you. That's sexy.

MoeFaux
18th September 2003, 09:24 PM
Okay, you know, that's a very good point.
Michael J. Fox is extremely hot. I would date him. So maybe the height pickiness isn't a set thing.

UnrepentantSinner
18th September 2003, 09:54 PM
Originally posted by MoeFaux
From men who love BBW (that's Big Beautiful Women to you, google it) .

I would have to recommend against taking this advice. ;)