Six years of 9/11 twoof

[peteweaver]

Its been six years since the horrific attacks of the 11th of september 2001.

In the years since then, various 'truth' groups have set themselves up writing about how "9/11 was an inside job".

In all this time, not one paper has been submitted to a scientific journal for peer review by any of the various 'truth' groups.

What are they so afraid of, if the truth is on their side and their explainations are credible?

That is the ideal journal to publish material about the collapse of the twin towers, the ideal forum for peer review:

http://www.aisc.org

Come on e911truth, if you really are about truth, and if you really are about thorough scientific research, then submit your work for peer review.

[vacognition]

I hadn't heard about these "truth" groups until recently. Are they really that common or that well-known?

[Unsecured Coins]

I hear something. Footsteps. Going in the opposite direction. In a fast pace. Sounds like they're running.

[uk_dave]

I hadn't heard about these "truth" groups until recently. Are they really that common or that well-known?

Interesting question.

It's funny because the whole 'truth' or 'paranoid delusional' movement would be an obscure little beast in another age. They would be confined to the occasional village hall meeting and a few books they'd have to pay to have published themselves.

But because of the internet, they attain a stature much greater than the sum of their parts.

We have the usual neo-nazis, tax protesters, those that jump at shadows, the socially inept and the bored, who grasp on to a major event and try to find some meaning for their own lives.

That they can touch the millions who now use the internet and might be gullible enough to be taken in is the somewhat worrying part.

But as far as the world outside of the internet is concerned, they're a sort of novelty.

I recall a recent sky tv production where they explored the 'titanic' mystery. I didn't catch the whole show but I was left with the feeling that the main CTer had really lucked out. For it didn't matter that they presented all kinds of evidence refuting his claims, or even that at one point in discussion with a non believer he had to admit that even he wasn't quite sure what he'd meant in his previous statement. None of that mattered, because he was getting the exposure he desired and he, the programme makers and the viewers knew that despite looking like a complete twat, there was bound to be a handful of people watching who would now become believers.

So the tv exposure the 'truthers' receive, whilst mostly negative and derogatory, still goes some way to increasing their numbers, though at the same time no doubt the more rational element of their movement realise what total idiots they've been for going along with this crap and fall away. So it tends to result in a slow increase in numbers, but numbers of the truly committed who should truly be committed.

[FramerDave]

All they seem to do is spin off new theory after new theory, and never ever seem to come up with real evidence or hard facts. Just like the promises of an alcoholic to quit, we are promised that the smoking gun is just around the corner again and again. And again and again we are let down.

So I will repeat the challenge that was offered here before: PUT UP OR SHUT UP!

If you have evidence, show it!
If you have evidence, take it to someone who can do something about it!
Shout it from the rooftops!
Paper every city with it!
Take it to the streets and demand that the government and the people listen!
Take it to every news outlet, foreign and domestic!

Get off your asses and out of your mother's basement and do something with all your overwhelming evidence. You have the power!

Until then, shut up and sit down.

Oh, what's that? You don't really have anything? Hm. Well never mind.

[peteweaver]

Like the emperor's clothes in the fable, their mountain of 'evidence' is invisible.

[Par]

Out of interest, who were the first to come out with the main conspiracy theories (or any conspiracy theories, for that matter) surrounding 9/11?

[The Doc]

Out of interest, who were the first to come out with the main conspiracy theories (or any conspiracy theories, for that matter) surrounding 9/11?

The same people who were spouting every other conspiracy theory on the planet who have been looking for new material since the death of JFK.

[Jedi_Master]

Out of interest, who were the first to come out with the main conspiracy theories (or any conspiracy theories, for that matter) surrounding 9/11?

IIRC...

It was those French dudes on the "Hunt the Boeing" site conserning the Pentagon, IIRC it came out only days after the actual event...

I could be wrong though, but that's the first time I saw any conspiracies concerning 9/11...

[MarkyX]

The same people who were spouting every other conspiracy theory on the planet who have been looking for new material since the death of JFK.

I would go further back with holocaust deniers and moon land hoaxers. Chris Bollyn and Eric Hufschmid come to mind. Then there is that lunatic, Jimmy Walter, although he is more like a bored rich guy then a real truther.

[gumboot]

Well technically, Alex Jones was first, because he said before the 9/11 Attacks that if there was a major terrorist attack in the USA he knew it would be a false flag attack produced by the government.

-Gumboot

[StoneWT]

Thierry Meyssan started the Pentagon nonsense.

Fintan Dunne created an article on controlled demolition about a week after the attacks.

THE SPLIT-SECOND ERROR
...EXPOSING THE WTC BOMB PLOT... (http://breakfornews.com/wag/the_split_second_error.htm)

[R.Mackey]

Strictly speaking, we cannot be sure that none of them has submitted their findings to a peer-reviewed journal. It's possible that they made submissions that were rejected...

I haven't seen anything out of them that could possibly stand review, not even for a few seconds.

[bje]

So the tv exposure the 'truthers' receive, whilst mostly negative and derogatory, still goes some way to increasing their numbers, though at the same time no doubt the more rational element of their movement realise what total idiots they've been for going along with this crap and fall away. So it tends to result in a slow increase in numbers, but numbers of the truly committed who should truly be committed.




Truther's credibility in the real world is inversely proportional to the amount of coverage they get in the mainstream media.