Guard shoots at colleague outside Walter Reed hospital

[shemp]

Guard shoots at colleague outside Walter Reed hospital (http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/06/20/walter.reed.shooting.ap/index.html)

WASHINGTON (AP) -- A security guard at Walter Reed Army Medical Center opened fire at another guard Wednesday outside a busy entrance to the hospital, police said. No one was injured.

The guards had been arguing at about 8:30 a.m. when one of them fired as many as 10 shots, Lt. Jimmie Riley said.

The other guard, who was not hit, ran to a nearby house to call police, Riley said. The guard who fired the shots was taken into custody.

"We're very fortunate," Riley said. "It could've been tragic."

I'll tell you what's fortunate: That terrorists didn't show up at Walter Reed and that this guy wasn't the only line of defense against them! Ten shots and he couldn't hit the other guy!!? If I was a patient or employee there, I wouldn't want this clod protecting me! He couldn't hit the broad side of a barn if he was leaning against it!

There is only one proper solution to this situation: All patients and employees at Walter Reed should be armed! If terrorists strike, they won't have to depend on some loser who can't shoot straight to protect them!

[tsg]

That would be a real twist: the guard gets fired, not for shooting at the other guard, but for missing.

[Pardalis]

Any other rejoicing news today Shemp? ;)

[shemp]

Any other rejoicing news today Shemp? ;)

Dunno, I'll go have another look.

[Hamradioguy]

That would be a real twist: the guard gets fired, not for shooting at the other guard, but for missing.

Possibly an urban legend, but might well have happened:
When General Curtis LeMay was SAC Commander he once drove onto the flight line in his personal vehicle and out of uniform. Aircraft parked there were armed with nukes and guards had authorization to use deadly force to prevent unauthorized access. Not recognizing the vehicle or driver, and after shouting "Halt" several times without success, the guard fired through the back window, narrowly missing LeMay. As the story goes, LeMay then stopped, jumped out and going up to the guard ripped the stripes off his sleeve. "That's for missing." said a somewhat shaken LeMay.

Yep, the Walter Reed guard manages to get into an altercation with another guard, fires his weapon, and then misses all ten shots. This isn't likely to make me sleep any better at night.

[casebro]

Rent-a-cops, I assume.

[MelBrooksfan]

Could've been tragic? It was at a hospital. Is there a better place to be shot?

[quixotecoyote]

The ear?

[Gurdur]

Could've been tragic? It was at a hospital. Is there a better place to be shot?
Walter Reed has been getting very bad press recently for being sub-standard. Better choose another hospital, eh?

[a_unique_person]

Any other rejoicing news today Shemp? ;)

This good enough?

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/articles/2007/06/20/1182019162978.html?from=top5



A Brisbane woman stabbed a male friend twice in the shower after he refused to stop masturbating in front of her children.
Defence lawyers for Kylie Louise Wilson, 28, said the mother of two "lost it" when her friend of six years, Daniel Peter Blair, went on a masturbation marathon on April 6 last year.
Brisbane's District Court this morning heard Mr Blair had showed up at Wilson's Birkdale unit, in Redland Shire, where he took amphetamines before having a shower.
Whilst in the bathroom, Mr Blair, 32, began pleasuring himself, before moving to Wilson's bedroom, where he rolled around naked on her bed and continued his lewd conduct.
He returned to the bathroom for more and was busted by Wilson, who was attempting to bath her three-and-a-half year-old daughter.
The court heard Mr Blair refused her repeated requests to stop, prompting her to fetch a knife from the kitchen which she used to stab him twice in the left shoulder.
Crown prosecutors said Mr Blair paused only to put on his shorts and flee outside to wait for police to arrive, but was again overcome by the urge.
"Despite his injury, it seems (Mr Blair) continued to masturbate while in the garage," the prosecutor said.

[shemp]

This good enough?

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/articles/2007/06/20/1182019162978.html?from=top5

It was all a simple misunderstanding. When she saw him masturbating, she said "Stop that! Think of the children!" And he did. Which made things worse.

My life was so joyless before they invented teh interwebs. Now I can't stop laughing!

[Art Vandelay]

Did he shout "Die, ****************!" right before opening fire? If there's one thing I learned from Pulp Ficiton, it's that excessive emotion can really impair one's accuracy.

He returned to the bathroom for more and was busted by Wilson, who was attempting to bath her three-and-a-half year-old daughter."Bath"? Haven't quite mastered the English language, eh?

[a_unique_person]

It's where you sit in the bath and wash yourself. I always wondered why americans went to the bathroom to relieve themselves. Did they do it in the basin?

[Art Vandelay]

The verb is "bathe". We call it as a bathroom because "pissroom" sounds too crude. What do you call it? Water closet? Lavoratory? (Actually, I notice that the article calls it a "bathroom" as well).

"Water closet" gives me a rather disturbing mental image. An entire closet full of "water"? I wouldn't want to get near that door.

[Zep]

I have a dumb question:

WHY does a HOSPITAL need TWO armed guards at the front door?

Never mind that at least one of them is disturbingly bad at his job. Are the management worried that someone will ramraid the place and steal some patients? That a delivery of catheter tubes will be cleverly heisted by masked men dropping from helicopters? That a one-armed man in a trenchcoat will try to kill a handsome rock-jawed cleaner?

Funny - I was in hospital last week, and all the "security" we had was a pair of little old ladies in pink jackets trying to sell me flowers and cups of tea.

So...what's with that?

[ponderingturtle]

I have a dumb question:

WHY does a HOSPITAL need TWO armed guards at the front door?

Never mind that at least one of them is disturbingly bad at his job. Are the management worried that someone will ramraid the place and steal some patients? That a delivery of catheter tubes will be cleverly heisted by masked men dropping from helicopters? That a one-armed man in a trenchcoat will try to kill a handsome rock-jawed cleaner?

Funny - I was in hospital last week, and all the "security" we had was a pair of little old ladies in pink jackets trying to sell me flowers and cups of tea.

So...what's with that?

That is not at all unusual. You generaly get security guards at the entrances to hospitals. Now they will not always be armed, but that wouldn't suprise me too much either.

[Zep]

That is not at all unusual. You generaly get security guards at the entrances to hospitals. Now they will not always be armed, but that wouldn't suprise me too much either.You do have them?? Why? :confused:

AFAIK, no general hospital in Australia has security guards on the door as a regular feature. Except for places requiring obvious security - prisons, mental institutions, and so on.

Just curious, that's all.

[ponderingturtle]

You do have them?? Why? :confused:

AFAIK, no general hospital in Australia has security guards on the door as a regular feature. Except for places requiring obvious security - prisons, mental institutions, and so on.

Just curious, that's all.

Well most of the ones I know are not armed with firearms, but in some areas I would not find it at all surprising. As for their need, they monitor who enters the hospital, but I am also far more used to coming into the hospital through the ER than the front entrance.

[strathmeyer]

How come nobody has mentioned that this is why officers of the law shouldn't be allowed to carry guns? Gun threads here are so inconsistent...

[Crossbow]

You do have them?? Why? :confused:

AFAIK, no general hospital in Australia has security guards on the door as a regular feature. Except for places requiring obvious security - prisons, mental institutions, and so on.

Just curious, that's all.

Sad to say, but armed guards are needed at American hospitals which have had to deal with robbers looking for narcotics and/or extremely belligerent individuals.

[shemp]

Sad to say, but armed guards are needed at American hospitals which have had to deal with robbers looking for narcotics and/or extremely belligerent individuals.

Why would robbers want to steal extremely belligerent individuals?

[ImaginalDisc]

Why would robbers want to steal extremely belligerent individuals?

Organlegging. You know, like that dude who woke up in an tub full of ice and a scar on his side.

;)

[ManfredVonRichthoffen]

You do have them?? Why? :confused:

AFAIK, no general hospital in Australia has security guards on the door as a regular feature. Except for places requiring obvious security - prisons, mental institutions, and so on.

Just curious, that's all.
I'm familiar because this is the hospital I go to.

The guards aren't at the hospital, but at the gate of the military base which is the entrance to the hospital parking lot. They are rent a cops, and they have guns. You'll find that at most military bases. Except bethesda. I guess the hospital where the president goes warrants military guards at the gate.

[ManfredVonRichthoffen]

Also they have 4 or 5 guards normally, depending on the time of day.

a couple of check ids, couple to inspect cars, that sort of thing.

[Art Vandelay]

I have a dumb question:

WHY does a HOSPITAL need TWO armed guards at the front door?
Haven't you seen the show ER? Hospitals constantly have to deal with dangerous situations, especially during November and May.

[Comrade Ogilvy]

Quote:
WASHINGTON (AP) -- A security guard at Walter Reed Army Medical Center opened fire at another guard Wednesday outside a busy entrance to the hospital, police said. No one was injured.


What do you expect in Washington D.C?....probably affirmative action appointees.

[Zep]

Well most of the ones I know are not armed with firearms, but in some areas I would not find it at all surprising. As for their need, they monitor who enters the hospital, but I am also far more used to coming into the hospital through the ER than the front entrance.We don't even have guards. Usually it's a coffee shop near the entrance - they tend to be slightly less scary.

Sad to say, but armed guards are needed at American hospitals which have had to deal with robbers looking for narcotics and/or extremely belligerent individuals.I'm sure we have such unpleasant people too. Maybe we deal with the problems differently. There are security people, yes, but they don't patrol the front door as a matter of course.

Why would robbers want to steal extremely belligerent individuals?They have high value at a hock-shop??

I'm familiar because this is the hospital I go to.

The guards aren't at the hospital, but at the gate of the military base which is the entrance to the hospital parking lot. They are rent a cops, and they have guns. You'll find that at most military bases. Except bethesda. I guess the hospital where the president goes warrants military guards at the gate.Fair and reasonable.

Haven't you seen the show ER? Hospitals constantly have to deal with dangerous situations, especially during November and May.We have similar hospitals, medical care, facilities, staff, and patients. I've been in ER, both as observer and patient - even unruly bikies are no match for the on-duty triage matron!

I'm still curious: Why do we NOT have to deal with similar security issues as a matter of course?

[Kerberos]

We have similar hospitals, medical care, facilities, staff, and patients. I've been in ER, both as observer and patient - even unruly bikies are no match for the on-duty triage matron!

I'm still curious: Why do we NOT have to deal with similar security issues as a matter of course?

He said "the show ER". I think it's some TV-series, and that he was making a joke based on the probably somewhat dramaticed version of how life in a hospital is, that the show gives.

[Zep]

He said "the show ER". I think it's some TV-series, and that he was making a joke based on the probably somewhat dramaticed version of how life in a hospital is, that the show gives.Thanks, I understood. I have watched it since it was first broadcast many years ago with George Clooney in it. I chose not to respond to the "November and May" quip, lest we were derailed too far.

[Gurdur]

Haven't you seen the show ER?
Art Vandelay, I realise that empirical evidence just like a sense of humour is prohibited by your ideology, and that you don't get out much if at all, but you really should take note that Reed is a military hospital. The TV show ER has absolutely no bearing on it. D'oh, yet again, natch.

[Ladewig]

It is possible that the guard was trying to miss. Perhaps he just wanted to scare the other guard rather than kill him.

[ManfredVonRichthoffen]

We have similar hospitals, medical care, facilities, staff, and patients. I've been in ER, both as observer and patient - even unruly bikies are no match for the on-duty triage matron!

I'm still curious: Why do we NOT have to deal with similar security issues as a matter of course?I've gone to many a hospital and emergency room and never seen a guard. I've gone to taco bell at 2am and seen police officers watching the customers. My guess is because I haven't gone to a hospital in the ghetto, but I have gone to plenty of taco bells in the ghetto.

[ponderingturtle]

I've gone to many a hospital and emergency room and never seen a guard. I've gone to taco bell at 2am and seen police officers watching the customers. My guess is because I haven't gone to a hospital in the ghetto, but I have gone to plenty of taco bells in the ghetto.

This means that Sleepy Hollow is a ghetto?

Which ER entrace did you use anyway?

[ManfredVonRichthoffen]

This means that Sleepy Hollow is a ghetto?

Which ER entrace did you use anyway?Me? The ones with the signs pointing to it.

[ponderingturtle]

Me? The ones with the signs pointing to it.

So the general entrance not the ambulance entrance.

[Art Vandelay]

Art Vandelay, I realise that empirical evidence just like a sense of humour is prohibited by your ideology, and that you don't get out much if at all, but you really should take note that Reed is a military hospital. The TV show ER has absolutely no bearing on it. D'oh, yet again, natch.If there have been posts of mine that you wish to criticize, then you're in the wrong thread, as the place to do so would be in the threads in which the posts actually appear. If you wish to merely making frothing-at-the-mouth attacks on me personally, then you're in the wrong forum.