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thaiboxerken
20th August 2003, 02:55 PM
"MONTGOMERY, Ala., Aug. 20 — The Supreme Court refused Wednesday to block the removal of a Ten Commandments monument from an Alabama judicial building, rejecting a last-minute appeal from the judge who installed the display. The justices said they would not be drawn, at least for now, into a dispute over whether the monument violates the Constitution’s ban on government promotion of religion.".......
"We must acknowledge God because our constitution says our justice system is established upon God. For [the judge] to say ‘I can’t say who God is’ is to disestablish the justice system of this state.”
Moore, contends that the monument, which he installed in the rotunda of the judicial building two years ago, represents the moral foundation of American law and that a federal judge has no authority to make him remove it."
http://www.msnbc.com/news/954934.asp?vts=082020031450
It's jackasses like this that piss me off. This guy would love a theocracy.
arcticpenguin
20th August 2003, 03:01 PM
Originally posted by thaiboxerken
"We must acknowledge God because our constitution says our justice system is established upon God. For [the judge] to say ‘I can’t say who God is’ is to disestablish the justice system of this state.”
Makes me wonder if Moore has ever actually read the constitution.
Nyarlathotep
20th August 2003, 03:02 PM
Originally posted by thaiboxerken
It's jackasses like this that piss me off. This guy would love a theocracy.
It's jackasses like him who are increasingly gaining power in this country.
Scary, isn't it?
Regnad Kcin
20th August 2003, 04:04 PM
Originally posted by Nyarlathotep
It's jackasses like him who are increasingly gaining power in this country.
Scary, isn't it? Were it not to already exist, I'm given to wonder if the United States of America could even be created today.
losman
20th August 2003, 08:33 PM
doesn't the basis of our modern laws come from the Code of Hammurabi (sp?)
A judge is appointed to administer descisions based on the laws of our land. How can we trust a judge who violates these laws because he feels strongly about his own religion. If this judge were an atheist or agnostic would he even have a chance to do his job, I am sure this judge would block such an appointment
Yahweh
20th August 2003, 11:47 PM
"We must acknowledge God because our constitution says our justice system is established upon God. For [the judge] to say ‘I can’t say who God is’ is to disestablish the justice system of this state.”
Bulls**t.
Fade
21st August 2003, 12:06 AM
The basis of our system doesn't come from anything, though it does borrow ideals from Hammurabi and others. One thing that is over-ridingly clear is that the US is based on a document that has no dealings with religion at all. It is blind to religion, as it should be.
That is an absolute, unequivocal truth.
Yet, stupid people still wish to argue.
crocodile deathroll
21st August 2003, 02:04 AM
Removing the 10 commandment stones from the front of Alabama judicial building, that's terrible the dogs need somewhere to relieve themselves.
CDR
chulbert
21st August 2003, 06:34 AM
Originally posted by arcticpenguin
Makes me wonder if Moore has ever actually read the constitution.
He's talking about his own state constitution, not the federal one. That doesn't, ultimately, make him any more correct, but he's not as clueless as you suggest (or I think you suggest).
sackett
21st August 2003, 07:39 AM
Religious fundamentalists are always good for a (nervous) laugh, until they start winning.
It's interesting to note that Christian and Moslem fundamentalism arose at almost exactly the same time, the mid-1920s, one in the American south (where else?) and the other in Egypt. Those were secularizing times; the modern was in vogue; rationality seemed to be winning, and as we know, rationality is death to superstition. It's an old story that the religious get hysterical when they feel threatened.
With modern communications at their disposal, the fundamentals could get political with little effort, and they've continued political to this day - increasingly political, it would seem, and with far too much success.
The logical end of political religionism is a theocratic state. Islamic fundamentals have never made any bones about that; it's their cherished dream, and you can take your steenking democracy and put it where the monkey put the nut. Bismullah il Ullah!
Until recently, Christian fundamentalists, being American in origin, paid lip service to American ideas, and would blather about freedom and democracy as if they understood those terms. But now another generation of Bible-humpers have grown up and realized their strength, and, as evidenced by their sneering indifference to the Constitution, have begun to build their own theocracy, using the basest materials that come to hand: ignorance, cruelty, fear, and abject credulity.
Right now, literally as I write this, Osama bin Ashcroft is touring the country to flog his interpretation of the law. (I believe he's here in Detroit at this moment.) Who can doubt that his goal is repressive, dictatorial, and above all religious?
Jedge Moore is small 'taters in himself, like his granite washing machine. But just look at the likes of who's on his side. Just look at what's coming up behind him.
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