Why does Randi come to the aid of a twoofer? (Rodriguez)

[bb pd]

William Rodriguez is one of the most disgusting human beings on the planet.

1) He takes advantage of our legal system with his frivilous nonsense.

2) And this is 1 million times worse. He goes around the World spreading misinformation to citizens of other Countries. Misinformation which is used to fuel more misconceived hatred of America.


So why would James Randi stick up for this guy? Rodriguez is dangerous. Shame on James Randi.

[uk_dave]

Maybe you should email your question to Mr Randi.

[Brainache]

William Rodriguez is one of the most disgusting human beings on the planet.

1) He takes advantage of our legal system with his frivilous nonsense.

2) And this is 1 million times worse. He goes around the World spreading misinformation to citizens of other Countries. Misinformation which is used to fuel more misconceived hatred of America.


So why would James Randi stick up for this guy? Rodriguez is dangerous. Shame on James Randi.

Seems to a bit of exaggeration in the OP.

Welcome bb pd I hope your stay is long and fruitful.:Banane30:

[Mr.Herbert]

How did he stick up for him ??

[Cl1mh4224rd]

I don't recall Mr. Randi ever sticking up for or aiding Mr. Rodriguez. They've worked together in the past and he still considers Rodriguez a friend, but that's all I've ever seen him say on the topic.

[Brainache]

I don't recall Mr. Randi ever sticking up for or aiding Mr. Rodriguez. They've worked together in the past and he still considers Rodriguez a friend, but that's all I've ever seen him say on the topic.

IIRC Randi also said that he was saddened to hear that Willy had gotten involved in the conspiracy theories.

I'm sure someone will be able to find the relevant thread.

[maccy]

IIRC Randi also said that he was saddened to hear that Willy had gotten involved in the conspiracy theories.

I'm sure someone will be able to find the relevant thread.

This is what Randi had to say on Decmber 4, 2006:

Yes, I knew Willy Rodriguez well for many years. He worked many shows with me, but there was never an employer/employee relationship. We have visited often since, and we met recently in NYC. He has now joined the WTC conspiracy crowd, and we disagree on his observations and his conclusions on that matter. I value Willy as a good friend.

[bb pd]

Mr. Roberts.

Defending? Lets see. Let me assure you my co-employees don't fall into that mythical 84% category. Nor do my co-employees find it funny when a kook, an 'eye/ear witness', makes up nonsense which falsely accuses Americans of mass murder. And let me assure you, sir, my co-employees find it appalling when a man travels the Country promoting this 9/11 nuttery.

And to come to Ridriguez's aid is appalling to me. Sorry if you disagree. Those phony veiled threats and all. Threats more ridiculous than that mean/goofy looking stare exposing 2/3 of his face.

I was genuinely hoping to see you in action in less than 3 months. I still may be able to make it happen. But I doubt it. I had so much planned. I think you would of enjoyed it. Then again, maybe not.

[Cl1mh4224rd]

And to come to Ridriguez's aid is appalling to me.


You still have yet to explain where you're getting this idea that Mr. Randi has ever come to Rodriguez's aid...

[Swing Dangler]

William Rodriguez is one of the most disgusting human beings on the planet.

1) He takes advantage of our legal system with his frivilous nonsense.

2) And this is 1 million times worse. He goes around the World spreading misinformation to citizens of other Countries. Misinformation which is used to fuel more misconceived hatred of America.


So why would James Randi stick up for this guy? Rodriguez is dangerous. Shame on James Randi.

When Randi says, "We" who is he referring to?

You may want to seek the opinion about his character from the people he helped out of the towers or their families and friends, or President Bush for that matter.
Judges who sue cleaners for millions of dollars is frivolous.
Considering the man was there and there are several others that back up his statements, I doubt that his story is misinformation.

[Civilized Worm]

Of course you don't, his story supports your crackpot theory.

[scooby]

Maybe it was Randi's refusal to support the official story, and his reminder, that neither does the JREF ...

Secondly there is not a JREF Forum "position" or "policy" on the events of “9/11” or any other conspiracy theories – no Member posting here speaks for the JREF organization or for Randi and the only people who speak for the JREF Forum are the Moderating Team and that is only when acting in their official capacity.

http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=79270

[Cl1mh4224rd]

How does that constitute "aid"?

[scooby]

How does that constitute "aid"?

Every little bit helps.

[Slayhamlet]

Maybe it was Randi's refusal to support the official story, and his reminder, that neither does the JREF ...

Secondly there is not a JREF Forum "position" or "policy" on the events of “9/11” or any other conspiracy theories – no Member posting here speaks for the JREF organization or for Randi and the only people who speak for the JREF Forum are the Moderating Team and that is only when acting in their official capacity.

http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=79270


Wow, that's devastating. :rolleyes:

[T.A.M.]

scooby...were you not banned? or just suspended?

As for bb pd...he is suspended in a very short period of time.

I am not sure, but the pd alone had me thinking sock...

TAM:)

[Alareth]

Maybe it was Randi's refusal to support the official story, and his reminder, that neither does the JREF ...

Secondly there is not a JREF Forum "position" or "policy" on the events of “9/11” or any other conspiracy theories – no Member posting here speaks for the JREF organization or for Randi and the only people who speak for the JREF Forum are the Moderating Team and that is only when acting in their official capacity.

http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=79270


Actually CT's just don't interest him and are not within the purview of what JREF was created to deal with.

The entire CT forum here only exists because someone posted a link to the original Loose Change and the debate took on a life of it's own. Blame Dylan Avery for all this ;)

[maccy]

When Randi says, "We" who is he referring to?

Rodriguez and himself - at least that's my interpretation.

It seems clear to me that Randi doesn't support Rodriguez's Conspiracy Theory beliefs (and, by extension, anything that flows from them) but still considers him a friend.

Honestly, what Randi thinks and who he chooses to be friends with isn't that relevant. It's the arguments and their supporting evidence that matters.

bb pd's contributions have, so far, been less than constructive, I hope he or she is given pause by his or her suspension.

[Gravy]

Mr. Roberts. Yes. Hello.

Defending? Lets see. Let me assure you my co-employees don't fall into that mythical 84% category. Nor do my co-employees find it funny when a kook, an 'eye/ear witness', makes up nonsense which falsely accuses Americans of mass murder. And let me assure you, sir, my co-employees find it appalling when a man travels the Country promoting this 9/11 nuttery.What's this got to do with me?

And to come to Ridriguez's aid is appalling to me. Sorry if you disagree. Those phony veiled threats and all. Threats more ridiculous than that mean/goofy looking stare exposing 2/3 of his face.
I have no idea what you're talking about.

I was genuinely hoping to see you in action in less than 3 months. I still may be able to make it happen. But I doubt it. I had so much planned. I think you would of enjoyed it. Then again, maybe not.I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. And it's "would have," not "would of," although you're still using the wrong tense. You should be more careful about your tells.

[Calcas]

I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. And it's "would have," not "would of," although you're still using the wrong tense. You should be more careful about your tells.

Do you think jack is back?

That last quote sounded kind of creepy...almost like something Hannibal Lector would have said.

[T.A.M.]

ya I was kind of thinking either a new pdoh sock (bb pd), or a return of the recently banned jackchit..

TAM:)

[CurtC]

Another board I participate in has a rule against accusing someone of sock-puppetry in the forum. Over there, if you have suspicions, the proper response is to PM a mod. I have to say, I think that's a civilized way to be, and would like to see the rule in effect over here.

IOW, please knock it off.

[Foolmewunz]

Another board I participate in has a rule against accusing someone of sock-puppetry in the forum. Over there, if you have suspicions, the proper response is to PM a mod. I have to say, I think that's a civilized way to be, and would like to see the rule in effect over here.

IOW, please knock it off.

I have a message from a mod a few weeks back saying the same thing, but 'unofficially'. It hadn't occurred to me, but speculations on sockpuppetry tend to led to name-calling and can hasten a rapid downwards spiral of a thread.

Makes sense to me, too. The request was to do just as you mention - to send your suspicions to the mod team and let them check it out.

[Calcas]

Fair enough. Suspicions reported.

[Gravy]

Another board I participate in has a rule against accusing someone of sock-puppetry in the forum. Over there, if you have suspicions, the proper response is to PM a mod. I have to say, I think that's a civilized way to be, and would like to see the rule in effect over here.

IOW, please knock it off.It's a good rule. I did report my suspicions. Personally I don't have a problem with people speculating in this subforum about a poster who immediately starts in with extreme statements about Mr. Randi (see thread tags), who mentions plans relating to me, and who after six posts was suspended for advocating harm to others. While it's possible that this is a new person, my money's on the very short list of usual suspects.

[uk_dave]

Do you think jack is back?

That last quote sounded kind of creepy...almost like something Hannibal Lector would have said.

He has disadvantages.

[Swing Dangler]

Of course you don't, his story supports your crackpot theory.

And worm you have a hole in a building that doesn't provide oxygen(NIST) to support your crackpot theory.

[Sword_Of_Truth]

And worm you have a hole in a building that doesn't provide oxygen(NIST) to support your crackpot theory.

SD, am I correct in understanding that you believe the holes from the aircraft impacts were a substantial source of oxygen for the fires inside?

Are you abandoning the central plank of the MIHOP theory?

[Jonnyclueless]

When Randi says, "We" who is he referring to?

Considering the man was there and there are several others that back up his statements, I doubt that his story is misinformation.

I was there that day. So if I said there were UFOs, would that be validated because I was there? Him being there does not change opinion to fact.

[Foolmewunz]

I was there that day. So if I said there were UFOs, would that be validated because I was there? Him being there does not change opinion to fact.

I was there that day, also. I say it was planes. Unlike W.R., I saw flames and debris shooting out of WTC 1, as my boss shouted, "OMG something huge just flew into the side of the Trade Center." Unlike W.R., I heard and saw the plane (the second) hitting Tower 2.

William was in a lower level. What he perceived as a bomb was not perceived as a bomb at first. It took on that life after he enamored himself of the CTists. I wish he'd just add things up and realize that he has leapt to the wrong conclusions and go back to being an ordinary hero; a guy who found himself in an extraordinary circumstance and reacted bravely to it.