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Questioninggeller
24th June 2007, 08:42 PM
Allison DuBois weighs in on Natalee Holloway (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natalee_Holloway)'s disappearance. The following is from November 2005.

How helpful is DuBois?


CHANNEL: MSNBC
SHOW: RITA COSBY LIVE & DIR 9:00 PM EST
DATE: November 30, 2005 Wednesday
TRANSCRIPT: 113001cb.479
SECTION: NEWS; Domestic/International
LENGTH: 7837 words
HEADLINE: Rita Cosby For November 30, 2005 MSNBC
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RITA COSBY: Well, could a psychic help solve the Natalee Holloway mystery? Joining me now is medium Allison DuBois. She is the inspiration for the NBC hit show "Medium" and has not been involved with the Holloway case. And also, we want to bring in Natalee Holloway`s father, Dave Holloway.

Dave, just one final question to you: Did you bring in a psychic? Have you thought of going that route?

DAVE HOLLOWAY, NATALEE HOLLOWAY`S FATHER: No, we haven`t, Rita. A psychic came in with Texas EquuSearch, Maryann Morgan, and she gave her information to that team and us, as well.

COSBY: Have you thought about going that route down the road at all?

HOLLOWAY: Well, you know, our family is very religious. And, you know, we`ve been brought up in the bible belt and really didn`t have exposure to a psychic, so we really haven`t pursued that avenue. But we`re all open to suggestions.

COSBY: All right, Dave, thank you very much. And let me bring in Allison if I could.

Allison, do you think a psychic could help in this case? A lot of people -- we`ve gotten so many e-mails from folks asking about it.

ALLISON DUBOIS, PSYCHIC MEDIUM: Well, yes, one can help in this case. It can help...

COSBY: How so? What could you learn? Could we learn who the suspects are, what happened to Natalee? What avenue...

DUBOIS: Well, in this case, you have the right suspects. I mean, they`re completely guilty. The things that I would find important to be looking at, if I were working this case, would be, for instance, that these three boys have done this to other girls before that were visiting Aruba as tourists. It just hasn`t escalated to murder, but I would look at the pattern that was set down by their past victims.

COSBY: Now, Allison, you said that these guys are completely guilty.

DUBOIS: Yes.

COSBY: You know, they haven`t been convicted.

DUBOIS: Sure.

COSBY: Why do you say that?

DUBOIS: Well, fortunately, I can head tap people. That`s what they use me to do for jury selection for the prosecution and to head tap people who commit murders. So I know that, just by looking at their picture, whether or not they committed the crime.

I can also tell you that Jordan Van Der Sloot`s father knows a lot more than he`s saying and, in my mind, is almost as guilty as they are, because he has helped to cover up this crime.

COSBY: Now, what is head tap? And what role, also, did Joran`s father play, in your mind?

DUBOIS: Head tapping is when I basically can see through the eyes of the person who committed the crime. And I do understand Mr. Holloway`s concern in religion. And I always say, if you`re going to bring somebody in that does what I do to make sure you bring someone in that`s valid, that has a track record, ethically, and, you know, that`s able to bring in specific details of a crime.

And I don`t think they should work necessarily with the parents of the victim, but the law enforcement involved, which makes it difficult in this case because it`s a foreign government that`s being dealt with, which makes it even more difficult.

COSBY: Now, Allison, you know, the big question everyone is wondering, is Natalee dead or alive? What`s her state?

DUBOIS: Well, and with all due respect to the parents, and I hope I say this with sensitivity, you know, she was not sold on the black market. She, you know, has passed. And I think, right now, we`re just working to maybe find a little justice for her.

And I`m all for the boycott, because any pressure that you put on the government is going to be good in getting something out of them other than what they`ve offered up.

COSBY: And real quick, I don`t know if you can foresee the future, but will we see closure to this case, real quick?

DUBOIS: I actually do think one of the boys will turn on the other boys and offer up something that will lead to a resolve of the case. I always did see them near the water with her. So my concern is that Van Der Sloot knew exactly where to put her, water-wise, where the decomposition or the elements in the water would make it so that she would not be found.

COSBY: Allison, thank you very much. We appreciate having on. Interesting, of course, the person who inspired "Medium" on TV. Thank you.

And up next, you`re going to see what I saw when I went to some of the key places in Aruba.
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Source (http://www.lexisnexis.com/academic/) or see video here (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10283432/)

For more information on Holloway: http://www.natalee-holloway.com/

Rasmus55
25th June 2007, 12:56 AM
Of course the interesting thing is that a man named Guido Wever was arrested for this in May 2006 and is the only person charged so far in the disappearance. He is charged with manslaughter of some type I believe under Dutch law. Wever is NOT one of the three men in the photo to which Dubois refers here. Wever probably knew these guys, but he was not known in the press as a suspect at the time of this filming. In other words, Dubois would not have known about him UNLESS she was psychic. She clearly indicates it was the other THREE boys who did this; all three. She makes no mention of Wever. I don't know what the status of Wever's case is and who will ultimately be uncovered as the responsible party (if there is any), although if Wever is found guilty, what then of Dubois' "head tapping"?

Gord_in_Toronto
25th June 2007, 10:28 AM
what then of Dubois' "head tapping"?

Larger bat? :D

JoeTheJuggler
25th June 2007, 11:58 AM
Rasmus, Wever was released, apparently under some sort of deal with prosecutors.

Still, your point is taken: if she could really do what she claims, then why wouldn't someone this important to the case even be mentioned? Instead, she just plays the odds and says that the people under suspicion were the ones who did it.

Rasmus55
25th June 2007, 12:35 PM
Rasmus, Wever was released, apparently under some sort of deal with prosecutors.

Still, your point is taken: if she could really do what she claims, then why wouldn't someone this important to the case even be mentioned? Instead, she just plays the odds and says that the people under suspicion were the ones who did it.

Yes, he was released but last I read this was on a type of bail. In other words, the charges were not dropped and his indictment (or its Dutch equivalent) remained. The release, as my understanding goes, had to do with rights under Dutch law not to be held over in a criminal case until the charges are proven and if certain criteria are met permitting release.

Last update I could find on this case was June of 2006. No where does it mention that the case against him has been dropped. The investigation continues and under Dutch law there is no right to speedy trial as we have in the US. The investigation could therefore go on for some time. As far as I can determine, therefore, he is still charged and remains the only person indicted for the actual crime. Do you know the current status of his case?

Katana
26th June 2007, 05:18 AM
Allison DuBois: "Head tapping is when I basically can see through the eyes of the person who committed the crime. "

OK.

So where did the killer(s) dispose of the body?

Ethan Thane Athen
26th June 2007, 06:24 AM
Allison DuBois: "Head tapping is when I basically can see through the eyes of the person who committed the crime. "


Obviously this is all rubbish but, even if we suspend our disbelief and accept it as true then how could that, even by woo logic (an oxymoron if ever there was one!) apply to photos?!

Big Al
26th June 2007, 06:31 AM
Allison DuBois: "Head tapping is when I basically can see through the eyes of the person who committed the crime. "

OK.

So where did the killer(s) dispose of the body?

Sorry, it must have been late at night. I have lousy night vision. Either that, or he had his eyes shut when he did so.

What, am I meant to be a miracle worker or something?

Rasmus55
26th June 2007, 09:08 AM
Allison DuBois: "Head tapping is when I basically can see through the eyes of the person who committed the crime. "

OK.

So where did the killer(s) dispose of the body?

Hahahah, good point. Just more ammo for STOPALLISIONDUBOIS.COM.

Big Al
28th June 2007, 03:12 AM
I cringe when I see trailers for "Medium", and they say "based on the lfe experiences of Alison Dubois" or the like.

Er... no, guys. They're based on what Alison Dubois says are her life experiences. There is a (an?) humunguous difference.

Blue Mountain
28th June 2007, 04:57 PM
Allison DuBois: "Head tapping is when I basically can see through the eyes of the person who committed the crime."
OK. So where did the killer(s) dispose of the body?
I'm no defender of these so-called psychics, but even being able to "see through the eyes of the person who committed the crime" wouldn't be all that useful.

For example, look at the attached cropped photograph. Can you tell where I took it? I'll even give you an obvious ("psychic-like") hint: it's within 150 km of where I live.

Big Al
2nd July 2007, 02:28 AM
I see... i see trees of green. Red roses, too

Rasmus55
13th July 2007, 06:13 AM
It seems that Dubious has an ally in none other than money hungry Dr. Phil. As you may now, Dr. Phil was pushed onto the gullable public by Oprah Winfrey, who is also a huge supporter of Woo. In any case, it appears from the following youtube clip that Dr. Phil's people may have done some creative editing in reference to those questioned in the Natalee Holloway case:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGPa2pO3-NM&mode=related&search=

Note that I am no fan of Geraldo or Bill. I also do not advocate the watching of faux news; but this is interesting if true. It would seem psychics are not the only frauds out there ready to fit the facts to their musings.

Rasmus55
13th July 2007, 06:20 AM
Oh, and here is the Dr. Phil edited clip. Clearly edited to make it appear as if the boy admitted it. Dr. Phil is being sued over this clip; the funny thing is that "history" of boys drugging girls on this island is complete malarkey. He's just making it up as he goes because this is not supported by the statistics. Clearly fear mongering, clearly fiction, and so demonstrably Dr. Phil.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELxTwuoveLA&mode=related&search=

SomeGuy
13th July 2007, 06:41 AM
I have first hand seen on certain sites that girl on spring break, do not need to be fed extra drugs on top of the alcohol they themselves take in order to get them to drop their tops.

I stumbled upon such evidence ... errmmm.. doing research.. yeah that's it.