Good Pope?

[marxist2]

Can the Pope be a moral person? One of my friends said he wasn't? Is the Pope a delusioned intellegent person or a moral moron?

[Hegel]

The Pope is most likely a very intellegent person. I may disagree with some of his doctrine (e.g. his position against homosexual unions), however I do feel that he is almost certainly a very intellagent man, if possibly one with a few moral differences from my own code.

[deanerk]

Duh!

The Pope is infallible and he's got a T1 line directly to God. Don't mess with the feeble little man. He's the boss of the most powerful and successful mob/cult in history. It doesn't matter if he's disillusioned or moral. Who's gonna question him but a bunch of crazies who take it on themselves to think for themselves. So just sit back and listen to what he and those who do his thinking for him have to say...

[Shinytop]

Many popes through history have been known womanizers and the most venal of rulers. They have constantly made decisions based on expediency for the Catholic church rather than right, wrong or moral. The chastity of priests was a result, I think the the 5th Century, of not wanting priests to leave their property to family. Recent popes have allowed, defended, and condoned the molestation of the most innocent of their flock in order to protect the wealth of the church. Moral? Not by any definition I have ever heard.

[mummymonkey]

He's a homophobic, misogynistic bigot of the highest order.

[Chupacabras]

Originally posted by marxist2
... Is the Pope a delusioned intellegent person or a moral moron?

These are NOT mutually-excluding options, FWIW.

The Pope and the people around him, as well as most high ranking officials in any institution, is well learned in many matters and I am sure his faith is genuine.

However, the Pope is following an agenda, understandably. That's why the current one is making saints like popocorn, from guys who may have never existed to nuns with nothing to claim in their favor. In recent decades, Rome has been "loosing clients" to other religions so it's a call for some action. It's all for the establishment.

[drowden]

"Good Pope" strikes me as being oxymoronic. :wink:


Dan Rowden

[ceo_esq]

There are a certain number of things I can admire about the current pope. He did organize and participate in a number of resistance activities during the Nazi occupation of Poland. He also had a key role in inspiring and supporting the Solidarity movement in Poland and was one of the central figures behind the collapse of Soviet communism in Europe.

I can also appreciate the fact that he's a smart guy. As a young man, he was considered to be one of Poland’s most promising poet/playwrights. He was also regarded as a brilliant philosophy student who, despite the intervention of WWII, received a doctorate in the subject at a young age. He speaks something like 8 languages.

The old guy has been known to say some objectionable and/or incomprehensible things on various subjects, of course, and unfortunately there are no term limits in his job. I doubt whether he really bears anyone much ill will though.

Likewise, I'm somewhat ignorant of the details of his job description, so it's hard to say whether he's a "good pope" in that sense. He earns relatively high approval ratings from his "constituents", but who knows what his ultimate employer thinks?

[Teh Wiccan]

He edited the bible to satisfy his needs. Try cross-checking he ten commandments between the NIV and say the KJV
www.bible.gospelcom.net
They dont match up quite right.

[Yahzi]

Oh, I'm sorry, I thought the answer was "dead Pope."

:D

Before you wax all happy about the current Pope, recall that he was one of the minority that decided to keep the ban on birth control. For that alone the bastard should be hung.