9-11 Truthers Issue Ultimatum....sorta

[parky76]

http://www.truthorlies.org/declaration.html

So the 9-11 Deniers have issued a "Decleration of Revolution". In it they demand:

We demand a new, independent 9\11 Investigation

We demand the shutdown of the Federal Reserve

We demand our freedom of speech

We demand our right to bear arms

We demand impeachment and possible imprisonment of all current members of this government who have been involved in criminal acitivity

We demand the withdrawl of all illegal occupations of foreign nations

and if they don't get what they want..they threaten:
"If these demands are not met within an appropriate amount of time, this Revolution may turn into a Resistance!"

So basically, if they dont get exactly what they want, which is almost as pathetic as Al Qaeda demanding all of the USA convert to Islam, they will resort to who knows what.

What will these pseudo-revolutionaries do if the USA doesn't meet their "demands"??? NOTHING. They ain't gonna do sh-t!!!. And why??? Because they are just a bunch of attention seeking, extremist, insane, loony bins. They can't do jack..and they won't do jack. No one is afraid of them, especially the powers that be. I almost hope they try something, just so the country can see how rediculous they are and how they all need a damn straight jacket. But they won't do jack, cause they are pathetic and cowardly. =)

[The Great Hairy One]

Wow. It will be interesting to see if anything comes of this. I really doubt it however. Looks like more hot air and ineffectual ranting.

Cheers,
TGHO

[qarnos]

...and this time they mean it.

:rolleyes:

[Unsecured Coins]

what next? are they going to bullhorn me with the greatest fear inducing threat ever...

you want me to turn this car around??

[Horatius]

"If these demands are not met within an appropriate amount of time, this Revolution may turn into a Resistance!"





Isn't a Resistance what you turn to once you've lost the big battle?

So, NWO is winning right out of the gate. Yay us!

[Alareth]

"Stop! Or I'll say stop again!"

[parky76]

I think its a sign that the 9-11 denial movemant reached its zenith. they won't get any larger, there wont be a new investigation, they wont get millions of people on the washington mall. they know they have lost, and maybe a few of them are feeling antsy.

will any truthers do anything drastic? possibly. they need there own "new pearl harbor".

[CHF]

The twoofers are too busy fighting amongst themselves these days to pose a threat to anyone else.

The quickest way to finish off this "movement" would be to give them weapons.

[Pardalis]

To whom are their demands addressed?

[BeAChooser]

Bet Mike Swenson is watched like a hawk from now on.

[Alareth]

That's it, I'm going to hold my breath and stamp my feet until the NWO reveals itself and submits to justice.

[Checkmite]

"...and we will send a letter telling you how angry we are."

[CHF]

I think its a sign that the 9-11 denial movemant reached its zenith.

Yup. The pathetic, uneducated, paranoid, single males who make up the majority of the movement are now starting to realize that there will be no new investigation (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=87106), no revolution, no mass protests in the streets, no peer-reviewed papers, no significant expert backing, no trails, and no twoofer government taking power. And to top it off, most girls find those black t-shirts to be a real turn-off.

In other words, they've wasted months, even years, on a fantasy when they could have been playing video games all this time.

I'd be pissed to.

[Mainstreammedia]

Well if anything, that should make our job a little easier... I suggest we use camp#34 the one out in Utah for this. Parky: If you could give the commander a heads-up call, I'll get in contact with Logistics, and have them round the following people up:

Those who have chosen to be a part of the Revolution
Mike Sean Swenson
Tammi Williams Swenson
Mike Chambers
Josh Reeves
Jamie Reeves
Dylan Avery
Christopher Shawn Nichols
Austin Eldridge
Craig Daniel Lingelbach
Matthew La Corte
Michael A. Donihe
Conrad Justice Kiczenski
Jason Nellis
Tim Osman
Cary Prejean
Bishop Ioan Lightoller
Bruce Wayne Roberson
Alisha Ann Bolick
ReGina Nicole Conley
Shaytan Ecros
Ibrahem
Johnathan Dimock
Christopher Mitchell
John Eisenschenk
Jason Worsley
Chris Escareno
Shelton Lankford
Taylor Genee
Marie Wayne
Jack Wesley Warwick
Pamela Sue Light
Master Terrence Steven Fischer
Jeremiah Van Buren
Gary Armstrong
Ryan Bell
James Rhodes
Dylan Bryson
Ray Hija
Matthew Seuschek
David L McNulty
Michael Vail
Franklin Purvis
Stephane D McPherson
Tyler Moore
Stephen Boland
Valerie Goodness
Frederick Richards
Jerry D. Culp Jr
Kenny J. Lewis
Ethan Stroschein
Big Mike
Jaclyn Bruntfield
Renny Simpson
Austin Slocum
Irene DuPont
Jennelle McKinzie
Mr Sinister
Ethan Allen
Killtown
Micheal Doan
Stacie Collins
Ann Beeder
David Diggins
Alexander Copp
Karen Moses
Vince Morgan
Joseph R. FitzPatrick
Brandon Tamisiea
Rick Mousley
Brian Michels
John Sanders
James Lowry Donaldson Rodgers Bueler
Brian Michels
Janet Hodson
Thomas C. Mendoza
Lisa
Chris Vargo
Andrew Collins
Eva Cox
Laura Parker
Feliciano Russell
Ed Gonzalez
Nicole Chamberlin
Brian Haler
Kelly Young
Herbert Graff
Gene Gallagher
Stephen Morris
Judy Perkins
Ryan Bussey
Delbert McReynolds
Roger G
Hal Porter
Kathy Saladin-Smith
Darryl
Robin Macomber
James J. Baccus
Carmen Padilla
Jeffrey Scott Cole
Charles Kelly
Jane Charvat
Kelli Harrington
Marcell Moody
Robert Allan Vine, Sr.
Holly Baere
Robert Moody
JD Pringle
Chris Cralle
Gregory John McGrath
Janet Viney Hodges
Martha Jo Moss
John Seibold
Rachel Lavelle
Brian Schoenrock
Karen Lowe
David Konarsky
John Vroegryk
John White
Richard Scogin
Georgina L. Walker
Warren Griepentrog
William Peck
Kirvin Hodges
Megan
Dawn Welch
Daniel Michael Bateson
Joseph Bergrath
Jimbo Postlethwait
Anthony Colombo
Melanie Moore
Natasha Labastilla
Kyla Wells
Kirvin Hodges
Greg Blackford
Carolyn S Smith
Robert Leach
William Peck
Darren Andrews
Douglas M Buckley
Daniel Vendetti
Rob Balsamo
Douglas M Buckley
John Strand
Doehring
Tom Cody
Scott A. Dykins
Bill Simpson
Patrick Conway
Mike Hyland
Antonio Perez
Ron Nelson
Jason White
Edwin L. Mann lll
Gordon Dordevic
Omar Masri
Helen Donnelly
Todd Vowles
Eamon McKinney
Georgina
Linda Powell
Kathleen West
Jessie Hurst
James Fleming
Brian Jacob
D McKay
Charles Delaney
Walter D. Kibler
John Albright
Dennis McCabe
Kalibre McCabe
Morgana Rhys
Kristen Hart
Carmen
Derek Dietzen
Vincent Fowler
Beau Gray
Christine Foster
Patrick Wood
Ryan L. Dougherty
Frank Daniel
Mathew Amonson
Nate Schoman
Steven S. Locke
Van Dempsey
Timothy C. Cerka
Edmund Szeliga
Mr. Rogers
Ed Stokes
Aaron Fogl
William Simmons
Joshua Glenn
Brian Johnson
Joshua Glenn
Scott Barrett
James Boes
Holly McNorton
Ryan Askew
Chris Austin
Keith Ratliff
Dennis Drew
Chris
Xinyu Hu
Thaddeus Bangle
Annette McCraney
Morrigan LaFae
Stephanie Smith
Joseph Smith
Mike Jones
Rebecca Spiers
Terry Ladrach
Jessica Dear
Bill Gallagher
wesley walker
Francis A. Daley
Alec "The World Champion" Eaglin
Kevin Dubs
Nito
Daniel Turcotte
T. Walker
Bradley Gosser
G. Morin
Anthony Steele
Deborah Hill
Erin Thomas
Sven Mason
Mark Pastir
Ruth Coldiron
Larry Dolechek
Mr. Harold Hilton
Dave Mann
Royce Walker
Joshua Rockwood
Francis X MacFarlane
Dale Raymond Holcomb
Jeffrey A Hamilton
Dana Carrier
Kirk Shaw
Michael Edwards
Trevor Berry
John Polisso
Paul Cook
Elliott Fritsch
Sarret Seng
Katalin
Joyce Wright
Michael P. Mclaughlin
Arlene Cooper
Michael Lee
Kimothy Sparks
Mike Eslinger
Bobbie Willard
Bart Wasilkowski
Jeanne Carmichael
Paul Cook
Javier Wolf
Alex Miller
Chris Neidig
Alex Miller
Maureen Westrick
Will P Wilson
Matthew Siers
James A Camerlinck
G. Michael French
John Carter
Gary Lineberger
Robert Bork
Phillip R.
Marcos Perez
D.VanMeter
Nicole Roy
Paul Wuebker
David Klousie
Frank L. Muller
Zachary Brian Shertz
Ryan Lever
Aich Hilton
O.W. Robertson
Bro.Ajo Warrior
Teague
Brian Nation
Aaron Brown
Nancy Crossthwaite
Mary Acito
LisaMarie Johnson
Adam Lesshafft
Stevie Foote
Sondra DeRosa
Robin M. Orosz
Ben Steele
Nick
Damian Salvo
Cassandra Wilcox
Edward Tobin
Richard Boag
Benjamin Abdelrahman
Tony Antes
Sam Christmas
Victor Pascual
William Weiss
Robert Valladares
James Szalay
Ryan Elfman
Cameron Olivas
Rigoverto Vasquez
David Brehmer
Hipnosha
Ben Langdon
Ashley Dotson
Gerald Bradford McGinty
Ronald Harry Williams
Liam
Carter Blue
Chris Robinson
Simon Silvester
Richard Barker
Greg Waugh
Brandon Reid
Will Bale
Adam Pineda
Dean Witsch
Michael Kohl
Franck Cordier
Robert Newman
Cedric Tai
Janara Martin
Cole Merk
Matt Revill
Brad Swiertz
Tim Kidd
Erin M. Davis
Lawrence Paulus Jr
John Glenen
David Kelso
Esteban Simancas
Maeghan Fredrikson
John Askie Katenay
Stephen Lint
Jon Harris
Jesse Kirkpatrick
Ron Schmecker Jr
Bryan Day Jr
Christopher Kavanagh
Rah
Iain Miller
Rick Mason
Saham Ali
Luis Sanchez
Liz Mason
Bryan
Moho Q.
Jonathan Baker
C. Lemons
Sean M Drake
Raymond Krehn
Jason Pett
Keyth Pike
E. Bergeron
Nick
Don Barletta
Jon Rollins
Michael K. Rivers
Barbara Worley
Dave Weit
Clayton R. Douglas
Tammy Sanderfield
Michael L.
Julio Rivera
Angelmi Acevedo
Christopher McCauley
Giovanni A Viscusi
R. Lee Savage
James D Mccann
Wolf

[Reality Believer]

And wonder of wonders, a Cafepress web store!

Fight the good fight in an organic cotton tee shirt.

[DarkMagician]

"...and we will send a letter telling you how angry we are."
"And it'll be nasty."
"But not too nasty."

[pomeroo]

...And we challenge to a debate any rationalist who won't accept the challenge...

[BeAChooser]

The pathetic, uneducated, paranoid, single males

Hate to tell you but if you check out the various "about us" links at the truthorlies.org site, you find these names: Josh Reeves, Vannessa Rappolt (mother of 3), Peggy Durham (full time mother and wife), and Jennifer Sor-Lokken (married and a mother). And that is a little scary. Or reassuring depending on how you look at it.

[The Great Hairy One]

Well if anything, that should make our job a little easier... I suggest we use camp#34 the one out in Utah for this. Parky: If you could give the commander a heads-up call, I'll get in contact with Logistics, and have them round the following people up:


Excellent.

I need a new batch of experimental subjects in the lab. I'll earmark half of that list for my vivisection students.

Cheers,
TGHO

[Pardalis]

Jeremiah Van Buren
Oh no! Not the Van Buren (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Van_Buren_Boys) boys! :boxedin:

[The Demon's Head]

I couldn't care any less of a [rule8] what their demands are. Their an embarrassment to society.

[CHF]

Vannessa Rappolt (mother of 3), Peggy Durham (full time mother and wife), and Jennifer Sor-Lokken (married and a mother).

I'm sure Dylan has them hard at work knitting uniforms. Or something.

[PhantomWolf]

I demand a new, better education system for those wanting an independent 9\11 Investigation

I demand the all the money of the Federal Reserve

I demand my freedom of speech, and no one else is allow it

I demand the right to bare chests for all cute girls.

I demand the withdrawl of all illegal occupations of Tibet and Northern Ireland


If these demands are not met..... I'll get a bigger sign!

[Pardalis]

I demand the right to bear chests for all cute girls.

I second the motion!

[orphia nay]

Vroomfondel - All right. I am Vroomfondel and that is not a demand, that is a solid fact. What we demand is solid facts.

Majikthise - No, we don't. That is precisely what we don't demand.

Vroomfondel - We don't demand solid facts. What we demand is a total absence of solid facts. I demand that I may, or may not, be Vroomfondel.

etc

Credit and much love always to Douglas Adams.

[hellaeon]

Lets hope for some heavens gate kind of action.
Its amazing how far a belief system will take you.

'A Call to arms'

This is why I have posted less here recently, the forums demands respect and ettiquette by default, not just because of the rules, and its hard to be rational and calm when you hear this kind crap coming over the airwaves knowing the kind of individiuals who say it.

[LashL]

The poor darlings. I can hardly wait for them to declare their "demands" unfulfilled, and for them to post strongly worded responses as a result. That will surely garner results.:rolleyes:

[CHF]

I can hardly wait for them to declare their "demands" unfulfilled, and for them to post strongly worded responses as a result.

The stundies will flow like the mighty Mississippi!

[qarnos]

I find the whole idea of a "Declaration of Revolution" to be a bit mystifying. Don't revolutions just happen? I mean - is there some kind of grace period you have to give the government? :confused:

To add to the confusion is the spiel about a resistance. What, exactly, will they be resisting? Are they under attack??!!?!?

[orphia nay]

"We demand rigidly defined areas of doubt and uncertainty!"

Sorry, I can't stop laughing at them, they remind me so much of the idiot philosophers in H2G2.

[Alareth]

1. We demand a new, independent 9\11 Investigation - Nearly 3,000 innocent Americans lost their lives on September 11th, 2001. The official government account of the events has been proven false. We demand the truth!
Proven false? When?

2. We demand the shutdown of the Federal Reserve - We lost our rights of Taxation without Representation long ago. The Federal Reserve is a fraud. Not a single penny of our income tax goes to pay for federal programs. We demand answers!

Absolutely true, we fought a war with the British in an effort to lose the right to taxation without representation. Please remember to vote for your choice of congressmen in the next election so that our right to taxation without representation stays lost.

As for the rest of it, "Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."

3. We demand our freedom of speech - The First Amendement gives us the right to say what we want, where we want. The Government does not have the right to arrest us for expressing this right. This right is fundamental!
No, it doesn't. It affords you protection against punishment for criticizing the Federal Government. I doesn't let you say anything you want, anywhere you want. If that were true, libel and slander laws would be unconstitutional. The second sentence is true if applied in the proper usage of the First Amendment.

4. We demand our right to bear arms - Americans have the right to own guns. Taking away this right not only empowers criminals, it also strips away a fundamental right, known as the Second Amendement!
Pssst ... You still can own guns. The NRA has got this one covered.

5. We demand impeachment and possible imprisonment of all current members of this government who have been involved in criminal acitivity - These citizens are not above the law and should be treated as equals. We demand justice!

Which crimes would those be? Do you have a list and corroborating evidence to present in a court of law?

6. We demand the withdrawl of all illegal occupations of foreign nations - The occupations of Iraq and Afghanistan have created tension and chaos and have lead to the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people around the world. These occupations also create an increased threat to the citizens of our country!
Hundreds of thousands? Really? http://www.iraqbodycount.org/ is currently estimating a max of 73568 Iraqi's, combined coalition fatalities for Iraq/Afghanistan is only 3898 (source (http://icasualties.org/oif/)) I'm unable to find a decent source for Afghani fatality counts, if someone could point one out.

If these demands are not met within an appropriate amount of time, this Revolution may turn into a Resistance!
What exactly is an "appropriate amount of time"?

[uk_dave]

Ultimately, 'the truth' appears to be about taxation.

The death of 3000 people is just a tool in that fight.

[NoZed Avenger]

"We demand the shutdown of the Federal Reserve"



Um . . . . What?


Do they actually connect the Fed to 9/11 somehow?

[I Am He]

We demand a new, independent 9\11 Investigation

We demand the shutdown of the Federal Reserve

We demand our freedom of speech

We demand our right to bear arms

We demand impeachment and possible imprisonment of all current members of this government who have been involved in criminal acitivity

We demand the withdrawl of all illegal occupations of foreign nations


And that goes for your Cat too :D

[T.A.M.]

I'm no American, but don't they already have, and exercise, most of the rights they are "demanding" in this declaration of insanity?

TAM:)

[Zep]

The guy behind this failure to impinge on reality, Mike Swenson, is a born-again twoofer. And we all know that born-again anythings are more adamant than the originals. Seriously, if anyone can be convinced by LC:2E, then they haven't a brain-cell to bless themselves with, and I have a really nice bridge I'd like to sell them.Mike is the creator of Truth or Lies and Revolution Radio. He has been involved in Internet radio for over 5 years, first as a electronic music DJ, then as a full time talk show host. He also has journalism experience and has been freelance writing since the age of 12. He first awoke to 9\11 Truth back in mid-2005 after viewing the hit film "Loose Change: 2nd Edition". Since then, he has made it his personal crusade to reveal the truth and expose the lies of the US Government - from Operation Northwoods, to the assasination of JFK, to 9\11 Truth and beyond.
http://www.truthorlies.org/swensonbio.html

[1337m4n]

I'm signing their petition as "Heywood Jablome".

[CurtC]

2. We demand the shutdown of the Federal Reserve - We lost our rights of Taxation without Representation long ago. The Federal Reserve is a fraud. Not a single penny of our income tax goes to pay for federal programs. We demand answers!
Absolutely true, we fought a war with the British in an effort to lose the right to taxation without representation.
I've seen the truthers claim this several times, that every penny of income tax collected goes to pay interest on the federal debt (which goes to the Fed's evil bankers!), so over at the LC forums I went and checked. In 2007, it looks like the interest on the debt will be about $250 b, and the income tax collected is around $1500 b. It's not even in the same ballpark.

[Panoply_Prefect]

Why do they use backslash in their first paragraph?


We demand a new, independent 9\11 Investigation


/S

[Loss Leader]

Holy lord - no addresses and, even though there's a space for it, no phone numbers.

Here are some of their signatories who I don't think have given sufficient information to be taken seriously:

Bruce Wayne Roberson (Seriously? Batman signed this?)
Ibrahem
Master Terrence Steven Fischer (I just don't believe this name)
Tyler Moore (as in Mary)
Valerie Goodness
Big Mike
Mr Sinister
Ethan Allen (at least this guy has a sense of history)
Killtown
James Lowry Donaldson Rodgers Bueler (Bueler? Bueler?)
Lisa
Roger G
Darryl
JD Pringle
Megan
Jimbo Postlethwait
William Peck (Duplicate)
Doehring
Georgina
D McKay
Carmen
Mr. Rogers
Chris
Xinyu Hu
Thaddeus Bangle (I just don't buy it)
Morrigan LaFae (Morgan le Fay is a sorceress and rival of Merlin)
Alec "The World Champion" Eaglin (I think he just wanted to see his name on the list)
Nito
T. Walker
G. Morin
Katalin
Robert Bork (Conservative jurist and failed Supreme Court nominee)
Phillip R.
D.VanMeter
O.W. Robertson
Bro.Ajo Warrior
Teague
Brian Nation
Nick
Sam Christmas
Hipnosha
Liam
Rah
Bryan
Moho Q.
C. Lemons
E. Bergeron
Nick
Michael L.
Wolf
S. White
Mark Lemke (I let a lot of names that were the same as mildly famous people go by because they could be real, but unless someone has evidence that this former Atlanta Brave is a truther, I question this one)
Pedro R.
A. D. Six

This is an astonishingly embarrassing list. It's certainly no way to be taken seriously by anybody. Also, if the creators are counting on these people for their armed insurgency, they're probably going to be disappointed. I don't think Batman's going to show up. Or Bueler. And Ethan Allen's been dead for two hundred and eighteen years.

[NoZed Avenger]

You missed Mr. Rogers.

[brodski]

I demand the withdrawl of all illegal occupations of Tibet and Northern Ireland




By what definition is the partition of Ireland
1) an occupation or
2) illegal?

You do realise that the vast majority of residents in N Ireland want to remain British don’t you? You’d have a better time arguing that the US Federal government is an illegal occupation of Native American territories.

[Dave Rogers]

Here are some of their signatories who I don't think have given sufficient information to be taken seriously:

[...]

Killtown

Uhh... do you think more information about Killtown would cause people to take hime more seriously?


Mr. Rogers

It wasn't me!

Dave

[T.A.M.]

With a list of USERNAMES, that petition will be laughed at, and thrown into the trash, or a file cabinet at the back of the room...lol

Stupid truthers.

TAM:)

[DGM]

With a list of USERNAMES, that petition will be laughed at, and thrown into the trash, or a file cabinet at the back of the room...lol

Stupid truthers.

TAM:)
That happens to any internet petition. When will they learn.

[Pardalis]

With a list of USERNAMES, that petition will be laughed at, and thrown into the trash, or a file cabinet at the back of the room...lol

Stupid truthers.

TAM:)

"And now we call to the stand Jessicarabbit."

[Stellafane]

[URL]..."If these demands are not met within an appropriate amount of time, this Revolution may turn into a Resistance!"

Revolution?? Resistance???

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I..oh wait, not finished...

HAW! HAW! HAW! HAW! HAW! HAW! HAW! HAW! HAW! HAW! HAW! HAW! HAW! HAW! HAW! HAW! HAW! HAW!

So all those weird little things they've been doing all along, the stuff that absolutely no one knows or cares about, they think that qualifies as a revolution?? Well, based on the impact that so-called "revolution" has made thus far, I'm not expecting the "resistance" to make much of a dent either. If you throw a revolution followed by a resistance and no one shows up, where do you go from there? Stamp your foot and hold your breath until you turn blue?

Poor, poor souls, so deluded, so pathetic...it's almost funny. Check that, it is funny.

[Loss Leader]

You missed Mr. Rogers.


No, I got it:

Carmen
Mr. Rogers
Chris
Xinyu Hu

[Stellafane]

[URL]..."If these demands are not met within an appropriate amount of time, this Revolution may turn into a Resistance!"

Revolution?? Resistance???

HAW! HAW! HAW! HAW! HAW! HAW! HAW! HAW! HAW! HAW! HAW! HAW! HAW! HAW! HAW! HAW! HAW! HAW!

I..oh wait, not finished...

HAW! HAW! HAW! HAW! HAW! HAW! HAW! HAW! HAW! HAW! HAW! HAW! HAW! HAW! HAW! HAW! HAW! HAW!

So all those weird little things they've been doing all along, the stuff that absolutely no one knows or cares about, they think that qualifies as a revolution?? Well, based on the impact that so-called "revolution" has made thus far, I'm not expecting the "resistance" to make much of a dent either. If you throw a revolution followed by a resistance and no one shows up, where do you go from there? Stamp your foot and hold your breath until you turn blue?

Poor, poor souls, so deluded, so pathetic...it's almost funny. Check that, it is funny.

[Stellafane]

Double post...but what the hey...

HAW! HAW! HAW! HAW! HAW! HAW! HAW! HAW! HAW! HAW! HAW! HAW! HAW! HAW! HAW! HAW!

[NobbyNobbs]

Not that it will do any good, but here's the email I sent off to the creator of the site.

I recently stumbled across your site and I'm confused about a couple things..

1) "We lost our rights of Taxation without Representation long ago." You state this as though taxation without representation is a good thing, and something you want a return to. Are you sure you meant it this way? Losing a right is generally a bad thing. Paying taxes without representation is not a right, it would be a burden. I'm not sure you really meant to say this the way it comes across.

2) " Not a single penny of our income tax goes to pay for federal programs." You may want to revise this statement as well, since it is flat-out wrong. How else are No Child Left Behind, the FDA, Highways and Transportation, FEMA, Homeland Security, and other programs like that paid for?

3)"We demand our freedom of speech" I don't recall this amendment being repealed. If it had, you wouldn't be able to have your website. To what infringement of this right are you referring?

4) "We demand the right to bear arms" Again, this amendment is still in effect. As I write this, I look across the wall to my collection of armaments. No one has come to force me to give them up. Again, to what infringement of this right are you referring?

5) You spelled "withdrawal" incorrectly.

6) "This Revolution may turn into a Resistance" Perhaps you mean the other way around? A resistance generally precedes a revolution.

I don't necessarily disagree with your position, it's just that the site is confusing in relating just what that position is. Clarification would be appreciated.

Thank you for your time.

Michael

[tsig]

Yup. The pathetic, uneducated, paranoid, single males who make up the majority of the movement are now starting to realize that there will be no new investigation (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=87106), no revolution, no mass protests in the streets, no peer-reviewed papers, no significant expert backing, no trails, and no twoofer government taking power. And to top it off, most girls find those black t-shirts to be a real turn-off.

In other words, they've wasted months, even years, on a fantasy when they could have been playing video games all this time.

I'd be pissed to.

Or playing with wimmon.

Fer reaal!

[CHF]

What will this "resistance" look like I wonder....

The insurgent group Truthers With Incredible Tempers (TWIT) launched another series of spit ball attacks on US motorists today. Police say that five people were mildly annoyed and that the insurgents' mothers have been notified. Dylan Avery, the leader of the group, was grounded.

[CHF]

Damn PC

[CHF]

Tripple post

[T.A.M.]

nice letter Nobby. To bad it will fall on deaf (and dumb) ears.

TAM:)

[aggle-rithm]

Revolution?? Resistance???



Reminds me of this dialogue from "3rd Rock from the Sun":

Judith: After reviewing all the testimony, the disciplinary committee unanimously votes to admonish Dr. Solomon.

Dick: What does that mean?

Judith: You're officially admonished.

Dick: Does that come with a pay cut?

Judith: No, but if there's another violation, you will be censured.

Dick: Does that come with a pay cut?

Judith: No, but if that fails to stop you, you will be sanctioned, which means a thirty day suspension.

Dick: With pay?

Judith: Yes, with pay.

Dick: Well, that sounds pretty good. Could I be sanctioned right now?

Judith: No, we're adjourned.

[T.A.M.]

nice letter Nobby. To bad it will fall on deaf (and dumb) ears.

TAM:)

[Belz...]

So the 9-11 Deniers have issued a "Decleration of Revolution".

:eye-poppi

:dl:

Priceless.

We demand a new, independent 9\11 Investigation

...funded by ???

We demand the shutdown of the Federal Reserve

...because we don't want to pay taxes and support our fellow Americans.

We demand our freedom of speech

...which we are using to write these demands.

We demand our right to bear arms

...which we didn't lose in the first place.

We demand impeachment and possible imprisonment of all current members of this government who have been involved in criminal acitivity

...any criminal activity, including MP3 piracy.

We demand the withdrawl of all illegal occupations of foreign nations

...even though 'illegal' has little meaning in that context.

"If these demands are not met within an appropriate amount of time, this Revolution may turn into a Resistance!"

Good, good. I prefer simple resistance to outward revolution.

What will these pseudo-revolutionaries do if the USA doesn't meet their "demands"??? NOTHING. They ain't gonna do sh-t!!!.

Of course they won't. That might interrupt the steady impot of kool-aid to their damp, tin-foil insulated nuclear shelters.

[Belz...]

I demand the right to bare chests for all cute girls.

Nonsense. Then we'd get used to seeing that and then I'd be far, far less fun...

Ultimately, 'the truth' appears to be about taxation.

Surprised ? Really ? Was the truth movement ever anything but the expression of an already-existing hatred for the government and the money they 'steal' from the honest people ?

[aggle-rithm]

Nonsense. Then we'd get used to seeing that and then I'd be far, far less fun...


How about one "bare chest girl" day a year? We could make it a national holiday, as long as we're rewriting the Constitution and all.

[Viper Daimao]

Reminds me of this dialogue from "3rd Rock from the Sun":

Which reminds me of this dialogue from The Office.

Jim: [picking up a ticket on his desk] What's this?

Dwight: That is a demerit.

Jim: "Jim Halpert, tardiness." Oh, I love it already.

Dwight: You've got to learn, Jim, you're second in command, but that does not put you above the law.

Jim: Oh I understand. And I also have lots of questions. Like what does a demerit mean?

Dwight: Let's put it this way. You do not want to receive three of those.

Jim: Lay it on me.

Dwight: Three demerits, and you'll receive a citation.

Jim: Now that sounds serious.

Dwight: Oh it is serious. Five citations, and you're looking at a violation. Four of those, and you'll receive a verbal warning. Keep it up, and you're looking at a written warning. Two of those,
that'll land you in a world of hurt in the form of a disciplinary review, written up by me and placed on the desk of my immediate superior.

Jim: Which would be me.

Dwight: That...is correct.

Jim: Okay, I want a copy on my desk by the end of the day or you will receive a full disadulation.

Dwight: What's a dis...what's that?

Jim: Oh, you don’t want to know.

[Dwight is scared]

[SpitfireIX]

. . . Well, based on the impact that so-called "revolution" has made thus far, I'm not expecting the "resistance" to make much of a dent either. . . .


Oh, they've had an impact, all right.

"I have no doubt that every time one of those Loose Change [expletive deleted]s opens his mouth, a Republican somewhere picks up five votes."

--Matt Taibbi, Rolling Stone column (http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/11818067/the_low_post_the_hopeless_stupidity_of_911_conspir acies/1).

[NoZed Avenger]

No, I got it:

You are correct; my eyes deceived me.



I shall now dash them out in contrition.

:)

[Loss Leader]

Which reminds me of this dialogue from The Office.



Jim: Lord, beer me strength.

[Belz...]

How about one "bare chest girl" day a year? We could make it a national holiday, as long as we're rewriting the Constitution and all.

SOLD!!

[uk_dave]

Surprised ? Really ? Was the truth movement ever anything but the expression of an already-existing hatred for the government and the money they 'steal' from the honest people ?

Nope, but it was worth saying in case any lurking 'truthers' weren't sure what they're 'fighting...............' (I'm sorry, I found myself laughing as I typed that one)... for.

[Sparky]

"If these demands are not met within an appropriate amount of time, this Revolution may turn into a Resistance!"


This is what happens when you try to declare a revolt without a dictionary or thesaurus.

[LashL]

Another name that is suspicious on that list is Tim Osman - which tinhatters claim was Osama bin Laden's nom de guerre whilst in the employ of the CIA :rolleyes:

[Minadin]

Revolution?? Resistance???

HAW! HAW! HAW! HAW! HAW! HAW! HAW! HAW! HAW! HAW! HAW! HAW! HAW! HAW! HAW! HAW! HAW! HAW!

I..oh wait, not finished...

HAW! HAW! HAW! HAW! HAW! HAW! HAW! HAW! HAW! HAW! HAW! HAW! HAW! HAW! HAW! HAW! HAW! HAW!

So all those weird little things they've been doing all along, the stuff that absolutely no one knows or cares about, they think that qualifies as a revolution?? Well, based on the impact that so-called "revolution" has made thus far, I'm not expecting the "resistance" to make much of a dent either. If you throw a revolution followed by a resistance and no one shows up, where do you go from there? Stamp your foot and hold your breath until you turn blue?

Poor, poor souls, so deluded, so pathetic...it's almost funny. Check that, it is funny.

Isn't a revolution, by deninition, more like a resistance movement that's succeeding in making a major change in goverment, i.e. overthrowing the current regime? Wouldn't the move from revolution to resistance be a step backward - basically admitting defeat?

[Loss Leader]

Another name that is suspicious on that list is Tim Osman - which tinhatters claim was Osama bin Laden's nom de guerre whilst in the employ of the CIA :rolleyes:


Good catch.

[Monza]

Which reminds me of this dialogue from The Office....[/B]

Very good. I am reminded of Are You Being Served and the constant threat of a "formal reprimand".

[Travis]

I see their Declaration of Revolution and raise them a Declaration of Revolting.

As part of this declaration the following demands are demanded demandingly:

The "bare chest girl day" will become law through an amendment without all the wasted time of a ratification

All currency will be replaced with poker chips and wooden barrels of lard

All laws, except the "bare chest girl day" law, will be derived from the Community Chest Cards from the board game MonopolyTM

An event known as Hagh Em Dahlem Gerhg will be held once a year. In this event a large group of preening alpha males will be contained in a muddy playing field and given access to adrenaline shots, an inexhaustible supply of whiskey and as many rusty bladed medieval weapons as they want. This will be televised live on ESPN, ABC and Boomerang for no particular reason

Natalie Portman will be my Queen and she will have to be cool with it

By implication I will also be a King, President, First Tiger and Dictator for life of both this country and GROSS

Wings will be sewn to the sides of cows for my amusement

Truthers will banished to a land where there is no sheer lace ANYWHERE!!!!

[~enigma~]

"If these demands are not met within an appropriate amount of time, this Revolution may turn into a Resistance!"Someone explain this to me. Ohm's Law says V=IR so R=V/I so where do wooish morons fit in?

[Zep]

I see their Declaration of Revolution and raise them a Declaration of Revolting.

As part of this declaration the following demands are demanded demandingly:

The "bare chest girl day" will become law through an amendment without all the wasted time of a ratification

All currency will be replaced with poker chips and wooden barrels of lard

All laws, except the "bare chest girl day" law, will be derived from the Community Chest Cards from the board game MonopolyTM

An event known as Hagh Em Dahlem Gerhg will be held once a year. In this event a large group of preening alpha males will be contained in a muddy playing field and given access to adrenaline shots, an inexhaustible supply of whiskey and as many rusty bladed medieval weapons as they want. This will be televised live on ESPN, ABC and Boomerang for no particular reason

Natalie Portman will be my Queen and she will have to be cool with it

By implication I will also be a King, President, First Tiger and Dictator for life of both this country and GROSS

Wings will be sewn to the sides of cows for my amusement

Truthers will banished to a land where there is no sheer lace ANYWHERE!!!!

You're making more sense than they are. AND you spelled it correctly. I think you are well on the way to getting what you want now.

[Travis]

You're making more sense than they are. AND you spelled it correctly. I think you are well on the way to getting what you want now.

Yay!!!!



Wait.... I shouldn't have just demanded Natalie Portman. I should have demanded an entire harem! I could have filled it with equal parts hot celebrities, dittzy college girls and the hottest skepchicks on JREF. You know, for variety.

[Stellafane]

Isn't a revolution, by deninition, more like a resistance movement that's succeeding in making a major change in goverment, i.e. overthrowing the current regime? Wouldn't the move from revolution to resistance be a step backward - basically admitting defeat?

Yeah, going from revolution to resistance doesn't make much sense, but in the truther world, what does? What they're probably trying to say is that if their "demands" aren't met, they'll stop merely posting on the internet and start doing some other stuff that will make us all sorry -- you know, tough stuff. I think they're trying to sound scary, but what they probably have in mind is more on the order of graffitti and burning bags of feces left on doorsteps. (I mean, come on -- who outside of nursery school would be physically afraid of Avery?) I suspect after they give this "resistance" thing a whirl, they'll escalate to the next step: Group Frowning.

[mrfreeze]

Wait, you can't be a member of GROSS and allow bare chested girls day at the same time! That would be like the truthers celebrating George Bush appreciation day.

[qarnos]

I would like to lend my support to bare chested girls day. Surely the greatest thing to hit mankind since Toto's "Africa".

[T.A.M.]

Someone explain this to me. Ohm's Law says V=IR so R=V/I so where do wooish morons fit in?

They were the reVOLT, but now, they are CURRENTly claiming to be the RESISTANCE. Does that make it clearer?

TAM;)

[grmcdorman]

They were the reVOLT, but now, they are CURRENTly claiming to be the RESISTANCE. Does that make it clearer?

TAM;)Shockingly.

:D

[Tirdun]

Since they're stepping down from Revolution (technically they mean Rebellion) to Resistance and since this is going to accomplish absolutely nothing, what's a step down from Resistance?

Dissenting Mob?
Committee for Change?
Organization of disenfranchised persons?
Rabble?
Grumbling Congregation?
Association for the Shift in Widely Held Beliefs (ASWHB)?

I'm all atwitter with anticipation.

[Chaos]

They were the reVOLT, but now, they are CURRENTly claiming to be the RESISTANCE. Does that make it clearer?

TAM;)

OHMy god! WATT is it you´re trying to tell us? :p

[T.A.M.]

The CAPACITY of the truthers to FLUXuate from reVOLT to RESISTANCE, is OHM My God astounding.

TAM;)

[Dr Adequate]

What if they held a revolution but nobody came?

[Horatius]

What if they held a revolution but nobody came?



I'll go out on a limb and suggest it'd be pretty much the same as what we have now :)

[Civilized Worm]

"If these demands are not met within an appropriate amount of time, this Revolution may turn into a Resistance!"


This begs the question: What revolution?

[boloboffin]

And then the Resistance will become a Reformation!
And then the Reformation will become a Revision!
And then the Revision will become a Retrospection!
And then the Retrospection will become a Reminiscence!
And then the Reminiscence will become a Recital!
And then the Recital will become a Recapitulation!
And then the Recapitulation will become a Reconciliation!
And then the Reconciliation will become a Regulation!
And then the Regulation will become a Repression!

And today's truthers will sit at Bohemian Grove, farting around and laughing at the stupid kids.

[Travis]

Wait, you can't be a member of GROSS and allow bare chested girls day at the same time! That would be like the truthers celebrating George Bush appreciation day.

Oh come on. We all know that Calvin had a secret crush on Susie.


Besides, how often can one work in a Calvin & Hobbes reference in the Conspiracy Theory forum?





Actually, if you think about it, the Truthers probably should hold a GWB appreciation day.

[Checkmite]

The CAPACITY of the truthers to FLUXuate from reVOLT to RESISTANCE, is OHM My God astounding.

TAM;)

Perhaps, but their CONDUCT, along with the way they INSULATE themselves from reality, is somewhat REPELlent. I suspect more than one blown FUSE.

[aggle-rithm]

The "bare chest girl day" will become law through an amendment without all the wasted time of a ratification


Be sure to include a minimum/maximum age in your proclamation, or this could turn into a "Twilight Zone"/"Monkey's Paw"-type situation.

[aggle-rithm]

This begs the question: What revolution?

"Dammit. Does anyone remember what we did with the Revolution?"

[Checkmite]

It revolved away. Just wait a little bit and it will return.

[NobbyNobbs]

Since they're stepping down from Revolution (technically they mean Rebellion) to Resistance and since this is going to accomplish absolutely nothing, what's a step down from Resistance?

Dissenting Mob?
Committee for Change?
Organization of disenfranchised persons?
Rabble?
Grumbling Congregation?
Association for the Shift in Widely Held Beliefs (ASWHB)?

I'm all atwitter with anticipation.


With apologies to Terry Pratchett...

"We Shall Overcome the Establishment, With All Due Politeness and Much Respect!"

[rwguinn]

With apologies to Terry Pratchett...

"We Shall Overcome the Establishment, With All Due Politeness and Much Respect!"
"Liberty! Justice! Reasonably priced..." erm...no, can't do it. There's 15 year olds out there...

[The Silver Shadow]

l4EygLtChOg

:D

[MIKILLINI]

With all these ELECTRIC demands, few will ACcept it, but many will DCide that the truthers have no AMPle GROUND to stand on. This is not a POSITIVE for them.

[qarnos]

With all these ELECTRIC demands, few will ACcept it, but many will DCide that the truthers have no AMPle GROUND to stand on. This is not a POSITIVE for them.

Watt?

ETA: Crap... Chaos had already used that!

[T.A.M.]

I feel a POSITIVE WAVE of posts are about to show themselves from the BATTERY of debunkers CURRENTly online. That is all, as I have to go OHM for dinner...

TAM:)

[Checkmite]

I recognize this SERIES of fascinating PARALLELs, but I personally see no need to get BI-POLAR over it. I prefer to keep my temper GROUNDED. ALTERNATE-ively, we can always wait to see how much attention this thread GENERATES. Then we can RESIST as necessary.

[Reality Believer]

"..... this Revolution may turn into a Resistance!"



Resistance is FUTILE. :alien003: :alien001:

[Mainstreammedia]

I see! Well, if the truthers are going underground to organize a resistance movement, that certainly explains why they're unable to get more then 15-20 diggs for their stories online. And why their "truthsquads" usually consists of 3-4 people...