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headscratcher4
17th July 2007, 07:40 AM
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/17/science/17book.html?_r=1&ref=science&oref=slogin

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An interesting article in today's NYTimes about a Turkish "scholar" who is sending a science textbook to academics and schools alike that argues creationism from an Islamic standpoint. Apparently, the production values are very slick -- which begs the question who is funding it -- but I thought the article was also interesting from the standpoint of the discussion of the role of science in Islam, etc.

PixyMisa
17th July 2007, 07:50 AM
Harun Yahya. Yeah, I've run into that name before.

PixyMisa
17th July 2007, 07:57 AM
Pretty good article, too:“In our country we are used to nonsense like this,” said Kevin Padian, an evolutionary biologist at the University of California, Berkeley, who, like colleagues there, found a copy in his mailbox. He said people who had received copies were “just astounded at its size and production values and equally astonished at what a load of crap it is.”Fatwa arriving in 10... 9... 8...

Mojo
17th July 2007, 07:58 AM
Harun Yahya (http://www.harunyahya.com/theauthor.php) again (Are there any other Islamic creationists?). Just do a forum search for "Harun"

He has a number of glossy looking websites:

http://www.harunyahya.com/index.php
http://www.darwinismrefuted.com/
http://www.evolutiondeceit.com/
http://www.fossil-museum.com/
http://www.islamdenouncesterrorism.com/

You think that last one is nothing to do with creationism?

http://www.islamdenouncesterrorism.com/struggle.html
http://www.islamdenouncesterrorism.com/clash.html

Cuddles
18th July 2007, 05:06 AM
Judaism, Christianity and Islam are all essentially the same religion, they just differ about who exactly was a prophet, so surely they all have exactly the same creation myth?

petra10
18th July 2007, 08:46 AM
I love to study ancient history and I have come to see that most religions are based on the same things.If you go back far enough in history you can see the stories are basically the same.Sometimes the people have different names or places are different.As far as I am concerned a lot of the stories come directly from the ancient Egyptians.
Even the main religions have stories about their involvment with the Egyptians.Over hundreds of years,oral story telling means the story changes as it is past down.Even when written down the text gets changed usually in translation.Then you get the people who change the stories to suit their own religion.Today churchs are changing the rules to suit modern living.

slyjoe
18th July 2007, 09:51 AM
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Today churchs are changing the rules to suit modern living.

I could argue they are changing the rules to suit medieval living.

kedo1981
18th July 2007, 10:31 AM
The main dif is that one group just wants to take over your school board and the other thinks it's ok to car bomb you.