Norwegian princess claims paranormal powers

[Quakeulf]

A winner RIGHT THERE.

Her name is Märtha Louise, princess of Norway, and claims she can consult angels, much like Sylvia Browne. Here are some reasons why she should win the $1 million prize:

1. She's been appearing in every newspaper here in Norway for the last couple of days. Some proof (again, sorry about the Norwegian):

"- Just as bad as the Christening of Norway 100 years ago" (http://www.kjendis.no/2007/07/24/507010.html)

"Princess with angel contact gets attention abroad" (http://www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/kongelige/article1903224.ece)

(I have not found any English speaking articles about her yet, but I have not had the time to filter a Google search, sorry.)

2. She is a princess, the daughter of the king of Norway.

3. She doesn't look as bad as Sylvia Browne.

Moved to General Skepticism and the Paranormal

[Alice Shortcake]

Well, I suppose it's good to know that Charlie Windsor isn't the only royal woo!

[Quakeulf]

Article in English for the langually impaired people (http://www.aftenposten.no/english/local/article1901846.ece).

[jsiv]

I can talk to horses too!

[Quakeulf]

Everyone can talk to a horse. Hey, some people even talk to their plants and their walls! Just don't expect a coherent reply.

[cj.23]

Does that mean that I can emigrate to Norway as the prospects for employment in parapsychology have increased? I just have to completely sell out and spout woo - I can do that if there is a title and a steady pay check in it. I have a 1904 Dano-Norwegian to English Dictionary and bad Danish, and a Danish passport. Will that suffice I wonder? :)
Are Norway strict on immigration?
I have a special talent! Utter willingness to exploit psychics!

cj x

[Father Dagon]

Has the big 90's revival started already?

The problem with those "horse whisperers" is that they destroy any hopes of having a serious discussion about communication between humans and animals. (Like Däniken destroyed the serious discussion about astroarceology.)Does that mean that I can emigrate to Norway as the prospects for employment in parapsychology have increased? I just have to completely sell out and spout woo - I can do that if there is a title and a steady pay check in it. I have a 1904 Dano-Norwegian to English Dictionary and bad Danish, and a Danish passport. Will that suffice I wonder? :)
Are Norway strict on immigration?
I have a special talent! Utter willingness to exploit psychics!

cj xUh, the nordic countries has a passport union (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordic_Passport_Union) since 1954.

[jsiv]

Does that mean that I can emigrate to Norway as the prospects for employment in parapsychology have increased? I just have to completely sell out and spout woo - I can do that if there is a title and a steady pay check in it. I have a 1904 Dano-Norwegian to English Dictionary and bad Danish, and a Danish passport. Will that suffice I wonder? :)
Are Norway strict on immigration?
I have a special talent! Utter willingness to exploit psychics!

cj x


You're more than welcome. If you have a skill that is in demand (everyone wants to speak with angels!), immigration will be a non-issue. I'll make sure my tax money helps fund your enterprise, too. We need more small businesses!

[cj.23]

I need my passport as I'm resident in the UK. Excellent! No I don't speak with Angels, I specialise in taking money off the psychics themselves, not their customers, which I believe is a much rarer talent. I like to think of myself as a highly evolved parasite!
:)

Oh well, Astarte huh, that will please the Norwegian Biblical fundamentalists. Are there any? :) A couple of thousand maybe?
cj x

[jsiv]

I need my passport as I'm resident in the UK. Excellent! No I don't speak with Angels, I specialise in taking money off the psychics themselves, not their customers, which I believe is a much rarer talent. I like to think of myself as a highly evolved parasite!
:)

Oh well, Astarte huh, that will please the Norwegian Biblical fundamentalists. Are there any? :) A couple of thousand maybe?
cj x


Well, there are a couple, but they aren't as big as they used to be.

I remember when the nuttiest cults used to travel around circus style, preaching and healing wherever they went. Once the head honcho himself tried to recruit me. I suppose that if I had been as high as he clearly was, it would have sounded appealing.

Oh, and a theology professor appeared in the paper yesterday warning us that the princess could end up inadvertently coming into contact with demons and dooming us all. There are forces in the universe not to be messed with!

The Lutheran Mission isn't too happy either. They want her to leave the state church.

[Silly Green Monkey]

The BBC (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6915262.stm) has an article too.

[rex]

And it's been satirised (http://www.thespoof.com/news/spoof.cfm?headline=s3i22325) on The Spoof.

[Father Dagon]

And now she has started a school in Oslo, Astarte Education. During the three-year education the art of communicating with angels will be taught. The first course will start this August and she runs the school together with Elisabet Samnöy.

The norwegian court chooses to not comment.

[Quakeulf]

:randi: should get his *** over here to properly debunk her claims of supernatural powers. Every day this week's newspapers here in Norway have been full of this, and it is making me embarrassed! This is just beyond silly that the media attention has been this huge here.

[Quakeulf]

Ok, this was very predictable:

The princess says she is sick and cancels her performances (http://www.nettavisen.no/innenriks/article1255888.ece)

[William Smith]

Ok, this was very predictable:

The princess says she is sick and cancels her performances (http://www.nettavisen.no/innenriks/article1255888.ece)

A fairly well executed media stunt. Only promises and talk, no evidence whatsoever. Perfect.



Quakeulf, why didn't you predict it, then? :D
I'm just yanking ya. But why didn't you?

[Quakeulf]

Well, I somehow thought that she was going to pull something off, like a spoon-bending or making some coins disappear from underneath a cup, but obviously she just "feiget ut", as we say in Norwegian. She became the coward I haven't seen her like before, she hasn't always been this way, you know.

Oh, and Martha's school gets slaughtered and she gets called a quack (http://www.nettavisen.no/innenriks/article1256966.ece) (sorry about the Norwegian)

[jsiv]

Ok, this was very predictable:

The princess says she is sick and cancels her performances (http://www.nettavisen.no/innenriks/article1255888.ece)

In English here.
(http://www.aftenposten.no/english/local/article1913287.ece)

Oh, and Quakeulf.. I think you're just upset because the class filled up before you could sign on.

[Quakeulf]

I'd rather spend $1,000 on getting a decent revolver to blow my head clean off.

[jsiv]

Ah, you don't want to just talk to the angels, you want to meet them in person. I see!

[William Smith]

I'd rather spend $1,000 on getting a decent revolver to blow my head clean off.

If you do indeed want to see angels in person whilst spending $1,000, consider investing with an expert (or experts!) in fellatio.

A pleasant experience, it's definitely real and you get to stay alive. It's win, freaking win baby.

[jsiv]

Oh I do like your avatar.

[Ryokan]

Ok, this was very predictable:

The princess says she is sick and cancels her performances (http://www.nettavisen.no/innenriks/article1255888.ece)

Sick? Why doesn't she just heal herself? :rolleyes:

[Big Les]

Oh I do like your avatar.

I've been meaning to ask him; what exactly is it?

[Safe-Keeper]

Sick? Why doesn't she just heal herself? :rolleyes:My sentiments exactly, obviously you can read minds.

But really. Where are her angels now?

[petre]

Oh I do like your avatar.

I've been meaning to ask him; what exactly is it?



An avatar? It's a graphical representation of an online personality, but that's not important right now, and don't call me Shirley...

Anyway, I believe his avatar may be whatever you wish it to be. Some choose to believe it is a pagoda in front of a rising sun. Some choose otherwise.

[Quakeulf]

Sick? Why doesn't she just heal herself? :rolleyes:

DUH :deadhorse

[Father Dagon]

I've found a task: Find pictures of princess Louise horseback riding while wiedling a riding crop and wearing spurs. Beacuse if she can communicate with her horses as good as she claims, then she wouldn't need them.

Contrast with my riding instructor who said that you ought to have a riding crop and spurs while riding, as its unwise to ride unarmed. Not that you shall use them as arms, not as a first measure. (The uses for riding crops and spurs in human-human communication are quite limited, wonder why?)

[Quakeulf]

(The uses for riding crops and spurs in human-human communication are quite limited, wonder why?)

You don't jump on people's backs and whip them around the street when you meet them to have a good time. Well of course, some people do, but that isn't a custom in any culture I know of.

[The Whether Man]

You don't jump on people's backs and whip them around the street when you meet them to have a good time. Well of course, some people do, but that isn't a custom in any culture I know of.

When you say "some people", is one of them this guy?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWjBURwHB00

[Ryokan]

There's a lot of Princess of Norway threads out there now, so hard to say which one I should post these breaking news in.

Yesterday the princess made some changes and withdrew some of the claims on the Astarte website.

Instead of guaranteeing contact with angels, the school will now only teach you how to seek contact with angels, and instead of teaching you how to create divine miracles, the school will now only teach you how to seek to create divine miracles.

The change came a day after Trygve Hegnar, editor of Finansavisen (a financial newspaper) attacked the princess, calling her a swindler, in an editorial. Hegnar refers to laws against advertisements promising more than they can keep.

The Norwegian Consumer Ombudsman also says they've received some complaints about the website, and will decide if they'll take a closer look at the case next week.

[Father Dagon]

Instead of guaranteeing contact with angels, the school will now only teach you how to seek contact with angels, and instead of teaching you how to create divine miracles, the school will now only teach you how to seek to create divine miracles.Ironically enough, that's exactly what the education to becoming a civil engineer is all about - especially engineering/applied physics. They won't promise that you'll be the next Gyro Gearloose or show how to solve the problems of today. They'll only show you the way and the methodology.

[Big Les]

An avatar? It's a graphical representation of an online personality, but that's not important right now, and don't call me Shirley...

Anyway, I believe his avatar may be whatever you wish it to be. Some choose to believe it is a pagoda in front of a rising sun. Some choose otherwise.

I thought perhaps it was a crucifix going right up a bottom.

[petre]

I thought perhaps it was a crucifix going right up a bottom.

*writes something on clipboard*
I see.

[The_Animus]

I can talk to lots of things. My mouse likes to say click all the time. Oh and my computer talks to me sometimes too! Though only when I'm playing music. Its the oddest thing!

[timhau]

I wonder if Demons could sue her for discrimination. Someone needs to talk to them too.

[Quakeulf]

I wonder how long she will be able to do this "stunt" before something goes terribly wrong.

[William Smith]

I wonder how long she will be able to do this "stunt" before something goes terribly wrong.

Do you consider it likely she will be held accountable if "something goes terribly wrong"?

[Quakeulf]

Do you consider it likely she will be held accountable if "something goes terribly wrong"?

That was not the point. The point is just that I wonder how long it will be before some desperate idiot starts believing in this and ends up hurting him or herself because they skipped the trip to the doctor.

[William Smith]

That was not the point. The point is just that I wonder how long it will be before some desperate idiot starts believing in this and ends up hurting him or herself because they skipped the trip to the doctor.

That was exactly what I meant. Do you consider it likely she will be held accountable if "something goes terribly wrong"? Under which circumstances would that be possible?

(Allow me to tell this story:
I work for a big discounter chain in Germany. A female client complained she got diarrhea from eating a purchased candy bar. She claimed to be a nutrition specialist, hence she could determine the reason for her unwell-being. We refunded her the candy bar and expressed our regrets.

I'm not saying she was deliberately lying, but: How could she have determined without doubt that the candy bar was the reason for her diarrhea?)