The First Measured Century....

[Malachi151]

http://www.pbs.org/fmc/book.htm

Read through all the pages and then comment.

[Nie Trink Wasser]

it reminded me that when I buy a set of encyclopedias for my kids Im going to make sure the set is published by a company that doesnt consider pbs and the bbc legitimate resources for historical accuracy.

[Grammatron]

Originally posted by Nie Trink Wasser
it reminded me that when I buy a set of encyclopedias for my kids Im going to make sure the set is published by a company that doesnt consider pbs and the bbc legitimate resources for historical accuracy.

What is wrong with PBS or BBC?

[Malachi151]

I think that by legitimate resources for historical accuracy he means The Watchtower.

[Grammatron]

Originally posted by Malachi151
I think that by legitimate resources for historical accuracy he means The Watchtower.

I am not familiar with that publication.

[Victor Danilchenko]

'The Watchtower' the Jehovah's Witnesses' rag, a total piece of crap. probably just the type of BS that NTW would love.

[Malachi151]

Anyway, back to the data presented here.

There is a lot of interesitng stuff, what about this:

http://www.pbs.org/fmc/book/images/14bus3.gif

http://www.pbs.org/fmc/book/images/9mone7.gif

[jj]

Originally posted by Nie Trink Wasser
it reminded me that when I buy a set of encyclopedias for my kids Im going to make sure the set is published by a company that doesnt consider pbs and the bbc legitimate resources for historical accuracy.

You object to measurement and documentation? Why?

[Grammatron]

Originally posted by Victor Danilchenko
'The Watchtower' the Jehovah's Witnesses' rag, a total piece of crap. probably just the type of BS that NTW would love.

That's probably why I am not familiar with it nor would like to be.

[jj]

Originally posted by Grammatron


That's probably why I am not familiar with it nor would like to be.

It's an experience that you might want to undergo once, just so you understand the basic slant. I wouldn't go any farther than that.

[Grammatron]

Originally posted by jj


It's an experience that you might want to undergo once, just so you understand the basic slant. I wouldn't go any farther than that.


I can't see it being any more of a slant than Newsmax for example.

[Grammatron]

Unless I am reading those graphs wrong (entirely possible since I gave them but a glance), it looks like the gap between the rich and the poor is shrinking not growing. Also, what is the profit for the corporations, because it's meaningless to show how much someone earns if you don't show their expenses.

[jj]

Originally posted by Grammatron


I can't see it being any more of a slant than Newsmax for example.

Not more, only different.

[Malachi151]

Originally posted by Grammatron
Unless I am reading those graphs wrong (entirely possible since I gave them but a glance), it looks like the gap between the rich and the poor is shrinking not growing. Also, what is the profit for the corporations, because it's meaningless to show how much someone earns if you don't show their expenses.

The income gap was closing until the 1980s, then it started widening again. I was interested to see that it had been so high in the 1920s.

The interesting thing about the corproate graph is the comparison to sole propietorships and partnerships. Yes, there isn't enough data there to determine a whole lot fo value, but its interesting to see how the role of corporations has grown, and also to see that the others have stayed about the same over the years. The largest growth in revenue coming in the 70s under heavy regulation was interesting too.

The link has much, much more interesting data though, I just threw that out as an example.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Originally posted by Malachi151
I think that by legitimate resources for historical accuracy he means The Watchtower.

Or Newsmax

[corplinx]

Originally posted by Malachi151
[B]Anyway, back to the data presented here.

There is a lot of interesitng stuff, what about this:



What about it? I know it helps you rationalize your kook theories but it illustrates some points:

A. its measured in trillions of dollars, the really interesting thing to do would be to look at the new rise of the partnership compared to other unincorporated businesses

B. No friggin duh. If you have to wonder why corporations have flourished, then you have never taken business law 101 in college. Limited Liability. Is it any wonder why you have so many 80 person small corporations generating lots of revenue versus a sole proprietorship with 80 employees? I work for such a small corporation. Huge margins, it functions like a small business, and the liability limitations make it plausible.

These graphs show nothing of interest except for the bump in partnerships (most likely due to limited liability partnership laws).

[Doubt]

If I recall correctly from BIS 101,

Proprietorships are a big problem for a small business owner, since the proprietor has no protection from the liabilities of their own companies. In short, if the company owes money, than the owner is responsible for the debt even if has to pay from is personal savings. There is a thing called the subchapter S corporation, which limits the personal liabilities of the owner(s).

I have friends who have their own small businesses. They are incorporated. Guess where those small business fit into that chart!

Before we start trashing the multinationals, we need to know what part of that big red bar is small business.

[Malachi151]

I had my own LLC, which is not classifed as a corporation as ar as I know, it stands for Limited Liability Company. Is that in the red or the white? Not sure.

I think people should be more persponally responsible for the businesses that they run. Unfortunately that ends up hurting the little guy more than the big guy though.