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articulett
26th July 2007, 05:10 PM
They are sooo cute; I hope they survive!

http://www.quantumshift.tv/v/1178084064/
PixyMisa
26th July 2007, 05:42 PM
How do baby orangutans manage to look so cute and so ugly at the same time?!

Sounds like a good program. Hope it works.
andyandy
26th July 2007, 05:51 PM
poor little orangs :(

....nice vid, did i hear correctly that they said "used in brothels as prostitutes"?

surely not....though perhaps this could herald a new super Pongo-sapien hybrid species to stave off extinction :)
Dogdoctor
26th July 2007, 06:06 PM
Orphaned apes need TLC. Often without the type of hands on caring they are shown getting they will go on to develop abnormally and end up unfit for reproduction due to it.
PixyMisa
26th July 2007, 06:19 PM
poor little orangs :(

....nice vid, did i hear correctly that they said "used in brothels as prostitutes"?
Down boy! :p

That's talking about the foster mothers.
vexed
26th July 2007, 06:30 PM
Interesting creatures.
Thabiguy
27th July 2007, 02:44 AM
"... They grow up in illegal zoos, in homes chained to a box with no food or water, or used in brothels for prostitution. ..."
That's talking about the foster mothers.
:jaw-dropp
PixyMisa
27th July 2007, 05:09 AM
Um. Let me listen to that again.
PixyMisa
27th July 2007, 05:17 AM
Uh. Okay, I was confused. They were talking about the foster mothers, then they were talking about the mon... apes, then when they said that I assumed I must have misheard and they were talking about the mothers again.

Apparently not. :covereyes
Jeff Corey
27th July 2007, 05:30 AM
Orphaned apes need TLC. Often without the type of hands on caring they are shown getting they will go on to develop abnormally and end up unfit for reproduction due to it.
Harlow's studies are probably what you are referring to. http://whyfiles.org/087mother/4.html
andyandy
27th July 2007, 05:47 AM
Uh. Okay, I was confused. They were talking about the foster mothers, then they were talking about the mon... apes, then when they said that I assumed I must have misheard and they were talking about the mothers again.

Apparently not. :covereyes

I'm not sure which substitution makes the sentence more unbelievable

[women/orangutans] grow up in illegal zoos, in homes chained to a box with no food or water, or used in brothels for prostitution. ..."

surely some mistake?
PixyMisa
27th July 2007, 09:54 AM
Hello and welcome to today's episode of I Did Not Wish to Know That!
aries
27th July 2007, 01:34 PM
According to the Danish (female) leader of the voluntary aid & help program for the Orang Utangs in Borneo (Sarawak), sadly :( :cry: this is the case.
I can't find a quote right now (sorry about that), but he's been on both tv and in the papers in Denmark, saying the same things. I think maybe it was the males, though, that were used for - ahem - cough - such things - cough - mentions in the thread.
DarwinsButterfly
27th July 2007, 06:16 PM
I found this at the WWF which may explain what the video meant: (they don't believe that it is systematic)

"Even more shocking is the story of another female ape who spent eight years in a ‘brothel village’ where crime and lawlessness go together. She was found chained, shaved, and abused. "

(Cannot post link, google search: orangutan brothel - it's the first page of the search)
articulett
27th July 2007, 06:17 PM
Hello and welcome to today's episode of I Did Not Wish to Know That!

That's horrible. I didn't realize that either. That is sooo wrong.
articulett
27th July 2007, 06:19 PM
I found this at the WWF which may explain what the video meant: (they don't believe that it is systemmatic)

"Even more shocking is the story of another female ape who spent eight years in a ‘brothel village’ where crime and lawlessness go together. She was found chained, shaved, and abused. "

(Cannot post link, google search: orangutan brothel - it's the first page of the search)

http://www.panda.org/news_facts/newsroom/features/index.cfm?uNewsID=21070