View Full Version : Cronkite: 'Most of us reporters are liberal'
Nie Trink Wasser
26th August 2003, 08:14 AM
http://www.sltrib.com/2003/Aug/08102003/commenta/82548.asp
"I believe that most of us reporters are liberal, but not because we consciously have chosen that particular color in the political spectrum. More likely it is because most of us served our journalistic apprenticeships as reporters covering the seamier side of our cities -- the crimes, the tenement fires, the homeless and the hungry, the underclothed and undereducated. ":roll:
that darned "myth" again.
hgc
26th August 2003, 08:17 AM
F_ck off, troll.
Nie Trink Wasser
26th August 2003, 08:18 AM
Originally posted by hgc
F_ck off, troll.
Learn to contribute something useful, dipsh_t
hgc
26th August 2003, 08:21 AM
Originally posted by Nie Trink Wasser
Learn to contribute something useful, dipsh_t Oh, you mean something useful like this thread (http://www.randi.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=25930). I think I'll just chase you around on all your threads until you show a little humanity, sh!tstain. You are a putrid, stinking troll, and you ought to consider leaving this forum for good.
c0rbin
26th August 2003, 08:39 AM
Ha ha ha ha.
NTW, you are a troll!
Reager
26th August 2003, 09:15 AM
Originally posted by c0rbin
Ha ha ha ha.
NTW, you are a troll!
Yes, he is. But it is true most reporters describe themselves as liberal. I believe the figure is around 60%. But most editors and owners, the ones who control content and editorial slant, are overwhelmingly conservative.
Mike
Nie Trink Wasser
26th August 2003, 10:14 AM
You're calling me a troll because I say things you dont like and that's the bottom line.
I post things that are relevant and are not addressed on this board.
I'm not a troll, you're just desperate and threatened by everything I post for some reason.
Nie Trink Wasser
26th August 2003, 10:25 AM
Originally posted by hgc
Oh, you mean something useful like this thread (http://www.randi.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=25930). I think I'll just chase you around on all your threads until you show a little humanity, sh!tstain. You are a putrid, stinking troll, and you ought to consider leaving this forum for good.
until I show a little "humanity" ?
you are the only stain I see here. Running around screaming "f_ck off" in people's threads because you dont agree with them.
you're a complete f_cking idiot and it makes me giggle myself.
Tricky
26th August 2003, 11:11 AM
Originally posted by mfeldman
Yes, he is. But it is true most reporters describe themselves as liberal. I believe the figure is around 60%. But most editors and owners, the ones who control content and editorial slant, are overwhelmingly conservative.
What happens when a reporter is promoted to editor? Does he have to put his conscience in a blind trust?
jj
26th August 2003, 11:16 AM
Originally posted by Tricky
What happens when a reporter is promoted to editor? Does he have to put his conscience in a blind trust?
Most reporters that Walter knew, and most reporters from the new, mean republican machine of the present are two entirely different things, methinks.
Reager
26th August 2003, 11:27 AM
Originally posted by Tricky
What happens when a reporter is promoted to editor? Does he have to put his conscience in a blind trust?
Ahh, but remember...don't the conservative owners choose the editor?
Mike
hgc
26th August 2003, 11:33 AM
Originally posted by Nie Trink Wasser
until I show a little "humanity" ?
you are the only stain I see here. Running around screaming "f_ck off" in people's threads because you dont agree with them.
you're a complete f_cking idiot and it makes me giggle myself. You are mistaken. That I don't agree with you, be it true or not, has nothing to do to with it. It's that you are a putrid little troll, and a piece of ***** to boot.
Dancing David
26th August 2003, 11:54 AM
Hmm, old reporter talking about what it was like in the 'good old days', what about all the local anchors and news services?
Anecdotal call to authority.
Nie Trink Wasser
26th August 2003, 01:05 PM
Originally posted by hgc
You are mistaken. That I don't agree with you, be it true or not, has nothing to do to with it. It's that you are a putrid little troll, and a piece of ***** to boot.
there are no beans on radio fizz match again.
Baker
26th August 2003, 01:35 PM
Originally posted by mfeldman
Yes, he is. But it is true most reporters describe themselves as liberal. I believe the figure is around 60%. But most editors and owners, the ones who control content and editorial slant, are overwhelmingly conservative.
Mike
Do you have any data to back this claim up?
Dancing David
26th August 2003, 02:14 PM
I think it was a mail in survey done about two years ago, NPR ran some stories on it.
American
26th August 2003, 02:21 PM
I can't wait until those huge, ugly, endangered-bird-chomping wind mills go up right in his ocean-front view from his Cape Cod mansion.
Then we'll surround Martha's Vineyard with them, just to give everyone at the Kennedy estate a heart-attack.
American
26th August 2003, 02:22 PM
Originally posted by hgc
F_ck off, troll.
Is there something upsetting you?
NightG1
26th August 2003, 02:24 PM
Originally posted by Nie Trink Wasser
http://www.sltrib.com/2003/Aug/08102003/commenta/82548.asp
...the crimes, the tenement fires, the homeless and the hungry, the underclothed and undereducated. ":roll:
that darned "myth" again.
So crime, the homeless and hungry and undereducated are amusing to you, Nie Troll Wasser?
NightG1
26th August 2003, 02:26 PM
Originally posted by American
I can't wait until those huge, ugly, endangered-bird-chomping wind mills go up right in his ocean-front view from his Cape Cod mansion.
Then we'll surround Martha's Vineyard with them, just to give everyone at the Kennedy estate a heart-attack.
Ummmm..... Off the meds again?
American
26th August 2003, 02:32 PM
Originally posted by NightG1
Ummmm..... Off the meds again?
Cronkite and Kennedy are desperately scrambling to fight the construction of an alternative energy source, which they've been crying for years that we need. Well, they finally found a place to do it; just off the coast there are huge wind gusts to power wind mills.
The only problem is that these hypocrites don't want their beautiful ocean-scape marred by the sight of them. (Alternative energy is for the masses, not the beautiful people....)
Malachi151
26th August 2003, 02:32 PM
Of course most journalists are liberal. Journalism is an effrot to keep people infomred and change the world in a positive way through the spread of information and keeping people informed. That of course is a very liberal concept.
specious_reasons
26th August 2003, 03:27 PM
Originally posted by Baker
Do you have any data to back this claim up?
Well, since conservatives like anecdotes:
http://www.fair.org/extra/0303/fear-favor-2003.html
In reality, I have not found good data on the subject of editor/owner bias. The MRC "research" on this subject is somehow lacking.
I also note that some of MRC's data is 10 years old or older.
Nie Trink Wasser
27th August 2003, 07:00 AM
Originally posted by NightG1
So crime, the homeless and hungry and undereducated are amusing to you, Nie Troll Wasser?
no. When liberals say things like that it makes my skin crawl, because it is stated as if conservatives dont care about the homeless, hungry and uneducated and its ridiculous and comical.
here's some more for you :
The man many consider the elder statesman of television news demonstrated evidence of the pathology of zero-sum pessimism that plagues the left, writing:
"We are inclined to side with the powerless rather than the powerful. If that is what makes us liberals so be it, just as long as in reporting the news we adhere to the first ideals of good journalism -- that news reports must be fair, accurate and unbiased. "
By saying that reporters are "inclined to side with the powerless," Cronkite admits reporters have a worldview that makes them susceptible to the rhetoric of populist politicians. After all, if a reporter regards himself highly for siding with the powerless, then he'll probably think similarly about politicians who say that they, too, are on the side of the powerless. Won't the reporter then have a harder time maintaining objectivity when covering such politicians--or their opponents? (If so, this bias would tend to favor Democratic politicians, because they employ populist language more frequently.)
In Cronkite's mind, our society is defined primarily in terms of a struggle between the classes: the powerful vs. the powerless, the haves vs. the have-nots. And, by choosing sides against the powerful, Cronkite is saying that they need to be fought, and implying that they are responsible for the plight of the powerless. In his world, if someone makes a dollar, someone else loses a dollar; the few exploit their way to riches while the many are exploited into varying degrees of poverty; people gain power only by seizing it from others.
http://brain-terminal.com/articles/politics/cronkite-admits.html
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