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Iamme
29th July 2007, 11:38 AM
I know one guy in his 70's who suddenly died of it. He had a ruptured colon called a ? (the name eluded me) and after 1 day in the hospital he was dead. I guess from the poisoning that flooded his abdomen. It was because he had cancer and either did not know it, or did not go to the doctor out of fear he might have it due to problems he maybe kept to himself without telling his sister about, whom he lived with. I am guessing he did not like hospitals.

Now my next door neighbor, about 73, just got the same thing. He too had the rupture and they had to do emergency surgery. Here 3 days earlier, he was talking to me out the window of his pickup and seemed his normal self. And before that I never ever saw him double over or grimace, ever. Months back he borrowed my Kevin Trudeau book and now I figure that he knew something and was hoping for an easy cure. He lived. So far. But it don't look good. He was in intensive care for like 2 weeks after the surgery. I saw that he was home but now he disappeared again. He has to wear one of those bags now. I heard the cancer spread to his stomach. Not good.

And when you are 50 they want you to go in for colorectal exam every year or two as this is a big killer.

And you hear other countries have way less incidence of this than us, and they blame it on our food. (Like maybe all the fatty stuff we eat, or food additives that are not 'natural' to our bodies perhaps?). But I'm wondering if they have made an association with drugs. Drugs are also unnatural to our bodies over evolutionary time, probably.

And while I'm on this medical query, I have often wondered if hospitals do (participate in) all they can to help make associations between body types, lifestyles, etc., by photographing people or otherwise listing traits of a person, and entering this plus everything known about a person's lifetyle with their occupation, food intake, where they live, in relation to finding common denominators for cancers in general. Or even heart disease.

I believe that every person who has medical problems that are major, where they could help medical science, that we have to learn everything about people to get to the botom of all these problems, as we are spending/wasting? billions on research, where maybe this research could be expedited more efficiently through better provided information. We need people who work in hospitals, like orderlies, who survey patients and family members and that would be their job. We really need this (don't we?). It needs to bve required, IMO!

Dogdoctor
29th July 2007, 03:55 PM
Your observations don't mean colon cancer is getting more common. There has been proof that chlorination of the water has caused an extreme rise in colon cancer. After the water systems in Paris were chlorinated the incidence of colon cancer went way up. On closer scrutiny however it was shown that the average life span went from 30 to 50 with the chlorination of the water and the age at which colon cancer occurs is 40 or more. So before chlorination colon cancer was rare due to no one living long enough to get it. However I don't think there has been any significant rise in colon cancer recently and in fact the deaths from colon cancer are going down due to early diagnosis.

this charming man
29th July 2007, 04:14 PM
I would suspect, at least in the US, the occurrence of many maladies will rise. I am no expert, but I venture to say the average age of Americans is beginning to rise. The "baby boomers" are getting older; therefore, the instances of cancer, heart disease, etc... will start to increase.
This is just a hypothesis; by all means, if there are any medical and scientific experts regarding this, ridicule me if I sound ridiculous.

666
29th July 2007, 04:25 PM
I think the powers that be are taking more notice of this form of cancer. Here in the UK there is a new-ish initiative being rolled out countrywide to screen for colon cancer after the age of 60. As a result, I had some polyps removed but don't have to be retested for a couple of years.

this charming man
29th July 2007, 04:56 PM
I think the powers that be are taking more notice of this form of cancer. Here in the UK there is a new-ish initiative being rolled out countrywide to screen for colon cancer after the age of 60. As a result, I had some polyps removed but don't have to be retested for a couple of years.

Very good point. Better technology, early detection, easier access to medical care... these could all be factors in the increase. Perhaps the occurrences of cancer are not increasing; rather, the detection and diagnosis of cancer is on the rise.

Z
29th July 2007, 05:01 PM
Not enough intake of spicy foods. Add hot, hot peppers to every meal to reduce your risks of cancer. It's true! :)

Katana
29th July 2007, 06:59 PM
Where's the evidence that colon cancer is becoming more common?

What I found:

http://forums.randi.org/imagehosting/thum_980746ad44d133d15.jpg (http://forums.randi.org/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=7334)

And here's my source (http://progressreport.cancer.gov/graphs-jpeg/figd2incidence-commoncancers.jpg).

Oh, here's a bit more:

Trends

Note: The word "significantly" below refers to statistical significance. 2003 is the latest year for which data are available.

Incidence Trends

In the United States, incidence of colorectal cancer has

* decreased significantly by 2.1% per year from 1998 to 2003 for men and women combined.
* decreased significantly by 2.5% per year from 1998 to 2003 among men.
* decreased significantly by 1.9% per year from 1998 to 2003 among women.

Among African Americans, incidence has

* remained level from 1980 to 2003 among men and women combined.
* remained level from 1980 to 2003 among men.
* remained level from 1975 to 2003 among women.

Among Asian/Pacific Islanders, incidence has

* remained level from 1994 to 2003 among men and women combined.
* decreased significantly by 0.9% per year from 1994 to 2003 among men.
* remained level from 1994 to 2003 among women.

Among American Indians/Alaska Natives, incidence has

* remained level from 1994 to 2002 among men and women combined.
* remained level from 1994 to 2002 among men.
* remained level from 1994 to 2002 among women.

Among Hispanics, incidence has

* remained level from 1994 to 2003 among men and women combined.
* remained level from 1994 to 2003 among men.
* remained level from 1994 to 2003 among women.

Mortality Trends

In the United States, deaths from colorectal cancer have

* decreased significantly by 2.8% per year from 2001 to 2003 for men and women combined.
* decreased significantly by 2.1% per year from 1990 to 2003 among men.
* decreased significantly by 1.9% per year from 1984 to 2003 among women.

Among African Americans, deaths have

* decreased significantly by 0.9% per year from 1990 to 2003 for men and women combined.
* decreased significantly by 0.8% per year from 1990 to 2003 among men.
* decreased significantly by 0.9% per year from 1986 to 2003 among women.

Among Asian/Pacific Islanders, deaths have

* decreased significantly by 1.7% per year from 1994 to 2003 for men and women combined.
* decreased significantly by 1.5% per year from 1994 to 2003 among men.
* decreased significantly by 1.9% per year from 1994 to 2003 among women.

Among American Indians/Alaska Natives, deaths have

* remained level from 1994 to 2003 among men and women combined.
* remained level from 1994 to 2003 among men.
* remained level from 1994 to 2003 among women.

Among Hispanics, deaths have

* decreased significantly by 0.5% per year from 1994 to 2003 for men and women combined.
* decreased significantly by 1.0% per year from 1994 to 2003 among men.
* remained level from 1994 to 2003 among women.

Source (http://www.cdc.gov/cancer/colorectal/statistics/trends.htm).

this charming man
30th July 2007, 04:19 AM
Where's the evidence that colon cancer is becoming more common?

What I found:

http://forums.randi.org/imagehosting/thum_980746ad44d133d15.jpg (http://forums.randi.org/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=7334)

And here's my source (http://progressreport.cancer.gov/graphs-jpeg/figd2incidence-commoncancers.jpg).

Oh, here's a bit more:



Source (http://www.cdc.gov/cancer/colorectal/statistics/trends.htm).

Why do you have to come in and dispell everything with "facts" and "numbers" sheezh :rolleyes: ;)

Katana
30th July 2007, 04:22 AM
Why do you have to come in and dispell everything with "facts" and "numbers" sheezh :rolleyes: ;)


Sorry. :mgduh

:D

Zep
30th July 2007, 04:56 AM
Last month I had the same examination that President Bush had - "up periscope" via the colon and large intestine for a little look-see for anything amiss. I'm 51, and it is a free medical procedure here if it is done in a public hospital. It's recommended every 3-5 years for us old fogies.

Oh, no sign of anything amiss!

Although what a job for the camera-person...