Sylvia Browne in Las Vegas - Fifteen shows in August

[SeekingTruth]

It appears that SB is not going away easily - if at all. She has now added Las Vegas to her lecture circuit - with 15, yes FIFTEEN, shows scheduled there next month.


SYLVIA BROWNE at the EXCALIBUR in LAS VEGAS!
Excalibur Hotel Casino is pleased to present "An Evening with Sylvia Browne" this August.

Show dates are: August 9-13; August16-20 and August 23-27. All performances take place at 7:30 p.m. in Excalibur's banquet center. General admission tickets, priced at $75 plus tax and fees, are on sale now at the Excalibur box office. Call toll free 1-800-933-1334 for tickets. Tickets are also available at www.excalibur.com

In addition the Excalibur is pleased to offer the following hotel room and added value package in August:

Stay 2 nights and you'll receive:*

$5 off their internet rates
Free tan at the spa or free spa admission
$10 Free Play when you join the Players club
Free appetizer when you purchase an appetizer at Dick's Last Resort
Free Tournament of Kings program with the purchase of two show tickets
* (This special offer can only be booked online and only available until August 16th.)

Wonder if due to her age and health, she's decided to become a fixture in Las Vegas instead of being on the road constantly? Or are these appearances in Las Vegas going to be IN ADDITION to the lectures and Montel appearances.

Robert, if you have any "smoking guns" you've been holding back, now might be the time to bring them out because I don't see her going away - I see her expanding.

ST

[Kelly]

I wonder if a concentrated letter writing effort to the Excalibur would help them see the errors of their ways.

I would be willing to write to them.

[brodski]

I wonder if a concentrated letter writing effort to the Excalibur would help them see the errors of their ways.

I would be willing to write to them.

Would a hotel in Vegas really cancel a money making show because some people thought it immoral or exploitative?

I’m disgusted by Browne as much as anyone but I think appealing to a casinos sense of decency is a lost cause.

[SeekingTruth]

I’m disgusted by Browne as much as anyone but I think appealing to a casinos sense of decency is a lost cause.

I prefer not to take a defeatist attitude - we won't know if we don't at least try. Kelly, I too will write a letter to the Excaliber - and include the link to www.stopsylviabrowne.com.

The Excaliber won't be losing money if they cancel her appearances - they'll just book someone else for that time period - but at least it wouldn't be SB.

ST

[Kelly]

Would a hotel in Vegas really cancel a money making show because some people thought it immoral or exploitative?

I’m disgusted by Browne as much as anyone but I think appealing to a casinos sense of decency is a lost cause.

Casino and decency in the same sentence?? :confused: :D

I wouldn't expect them to cancel these shows, or think they would, however, what I would hope is that they might think twice about booking more shows.

Unfortunately, I am sure that even if they received thousands of complaint letters, they would not cease what they are doing as long as it is a cash cow. :(

The only real hope then would be that Sb wasn't the draw they expected.

[Bri]

Someone should print off a lot of very brief, convincing handouts/flyers and hand them to people going to buy tickets. Perhaps it would persuade some to spend their money on Cirque du Soleil instead.

-Bri

[TheDoLittle]

What you do is have Penn & Teller come out to where the people are lining up (if they line up) for Saliva's show and have them not only do a psychic reading with the crowd, but in true P&T style, show everyone how the trick was done.

That way the people will begin to get up and walk out in the middle of the show asking themselves "I paid $75 for this?"

[grayman]

What would really fun would be if we could afford to purchase tickets for one entire show and fill the audience with forumites, skeptics, Robert Lancaster, P&T, and of course, our own dear Mr. James Randi.

Would she cancel her appearance? Or would we finally get to see that famous headline from the Weekly World News: "Famed Psychic's Head Explodes"?

[SeekingTruth]

According to www.excalibur.com the actual ticket price "with tax and fees" is $82.50.
They say it's being held in the ballroom....but I can't seem to find how many people the ballroom can seat....whatever it is, it's too many... :(

ST

[brodski]

I prefer not to take a defeatist attitude - we won't know if we don't at least try. Kelly, I too will write a letter to the Excaliber - and include the link to www.stopsylviabrowne.com.

The Excaliber won't be losing money if they cancel her appearances - they'll just book someone else for that time period - but at least it wouldn't be SB.

ST

I don't take a defeatist attitude, but I do like to focus my efforts in areas where I may be able to make a difference.

[sinclairmcevoy]

I highly doubt if a casino would cancel her show due to outcry from a bunch of skeptics. In fact, there is a lot of energy expended in this forum on the same old stuff. (S.B.) It's getting tiring, like the same old thing for lunch, again. I think that the effort could be spent on other pursuits, much more worthwhile than this wind bag.

[SeekingTruth]

I highly doubt if a casino would cancel her show due to outcry from a bunch of skeptics. In fact, there is a lot of energy expended in this forum on the same old stuff. (S.B.) It's getting tiring, like the same old thing for lunch, again. I think that the effort could be spent on other pursuits, much more worthwhile than this wind bag.

Stoping this wind bag is worthwhile - just ask Shawn Hornbeck's parents or all the other people she's hurt....
and apparently Robert Lancaster thinks it's worthwhile.

ST

[RSLancastr]

It appears that SB is not going away easily - if at all.
Oh, ye of little faith (said the agnostic)!

Robert, if you have any "smoking guns" you've been holding back, now might be the time to bring them out because I don't see her going away - I see her expanding.
I see her making last-ditch attempts to milk as much out of her career as she can before it ends.

I wonder if a concentrated letter writing effort to the Excalibur would help them see the errors of their ways.
I don't see that as having any effect, Kelly.

Someone should print off a lot of very brief, convincing handouts/flyers and hand them to people going to buy tickets. Perhaps it would persuade some to spend their money on Cirque du Soleil instead.
I would imagine that the vast majority of the ticket sales will be done online.

What would really fun would be if we could afford to purchase tickets for one entire show and fill the audience with forumites, skeptics, Robert Lancaster, P&T, and of course, our own dear Mr. James Randi.
... all wearing SSB t-shirts. :D

I highly doubt if a casino would cancel her show due to outcry from a bunch of skeptics.
Agreed.

In fact, there is a lot of energy expended in this forum on the same old stuff. (S.B.) It's getting tiring, like the same old thing for lunch, again. I think that the effort could be spent on other pursuits, much more worthwhile than this wind bag.
Then I would suggest that you pick a pursuit which seems worthhile to you, and pursue it with passion and purpose.

[Miss Anthrope]

Would a hotel in Vegas really cancel a money making show because some people thought it immoral or exploitative?

I’m disgusted by Browne as much as anyone but I think appealing to a casinos sense of decency is a lost cause.

Yup.

[sinclairmcevoy]

Sorry if I was misunderstood. RSL does a wonderful service. Any effort to stop this windbag is worthwhile. I guess I'm just about saturated with her b.s. It's like flogging a dead horse. But even a dead horse has value, glue, for instance. Flog away, I'll keep my mouth shut.

[SeekingTruth]

Sorry if I was misunderstood. RSL does a wonderful service. Any effort to stop this windbag is worthwhile. I guess I'm just about saturated with her b.s. It's like flogging a dead horse. But even a dead horse has value, glue, for instance. Flog away, I'll keep my mouth shut.

I don't think any of us are into flogging.... so you're safe :)

I appreciate you coming back and reversing your stand - it takes a big person to do that.... thank you!

ST

[PastBrowneFan]

I was worried that sinclairmcevoy was going to start a stopstopsylviabrowne website.

[PastBrowneFan]

RSL,

I too see this as a last minute attempt to make money, grasping at straws, running a trial run to see if they can make money by going to Vegas instead of the lecture circuit.

I know that they have had trouble getting enough people to volunteer at her lectures, so maybe RSL's site is making a dent in the SB money machine.

I honestly don't see how many people would pay $75+ to see her in Vegas, especially since it is short notice and most people that I know plan out the shows they are going to see well before they get there.

We'll just have to wait and see.

[alfaniner]

Hmmm... It doesn't seem that the casino is too concerned about her "psychic predictive powers"!

[SeekingTruth]

RSL,

I too see this as a last minute attempt to make money, grasping at straws, running a trial run to see if they can make money by going to Vegas instead of the lecture circuit.

I know that they have had trouble getting enough people to volunteer at her lectures, so maybe RSL's site is making a dent in the SB money machine.

I honestly don't see how many people would pay $75+ to see her in Vegas, especially since it is short notice and most people that I know plan out the shows they are going to see well before they get there.

We'll just have to wait and see.

I wish I could agree with you PBF, but I think it has more to do with her age (70) and her health (bad hip needing surgery). Spending a month in Vegas will enable her to rest and not spend weeks on airplanes travelling from city to city. 15 appearances in Vegas will make up for 6 month's of lectures - and a whole lot easier on her. She'll still be able to do her 20+ readings each day from the luxurious room she'll no doubt have - comped, I'm sure by the hotel.

As for volunteers at her lectures - they seem to do ok getting enough people, especially now that they're putting out the word on GSB where they need volunteers - and from what I've been told, her lectures have all been sell outs. The reason they've been short on volunteers (according to someone who reads at GSB) is because most people would rather spend the money to get seats up front than to have to work part of the lecture.

A lot of people heading to Vegas book shows that you have to get tickets for months in advance. Someone spending a week in Vegas may have booked in advance a couple of shows and the rest of their time is open....so I see them filling the seats at SB's "shows" - especially those who have time on their hands and go for the novelty - or because they've heard of her - maybe just to be "entertained".

ST

[sinclairmcevoy]

I was worried that sinclairmcevoy was going to start a stopstopsylviabrowne website.
Ha ha ha! That's pretty funny! No worries there. Stopping her is enough.

[Boo]

Surely there are enough Randi and skeptic friendly magicians performing in Vegas (P&T to name two) with enough clout to turn a very uncomfortable spotlight on this roach.



Boo

[Ladewig]

A lot of people heading to Vegas .... especially those who have time on their hands and go for the novelty - or because they've heard of her - maybe just to be "entertained".

ST

I have never seen a group of people more superstitious than casino gamblers. I expect Excalibur will make a tidy sum on this event.

[Kochanski]

I have never seen a group of people more superstitious than casino gamblers. I expect Excalibur will make a tidy sum on this event.

I was thinking the same thing. Seems to me that the SB crowd is the group casinos must like most. As far as the casino is concerned this will just attract more credulous people to Vegas and ones who are likely to see "signs" and "streaks" and drop much bucks in the casino. People who are just sure that their luck will make them win.

As venues go, the land of the fake and make-believe that is Vegas is really the ideal one for SB. It is all glitz and show with no substance or reality.

[Zep]

I like the idea of Penn and Teller doing a street psychic routine "Exposed!" right outside the door! A real humdinger, with noise and lights and everything that would gather a street crowd. You can't get much more chaos and attention than Penn on a roll, and he knows it.

This would accomplish two things: (1) Make SB's routine look as REALLY tired and lame as it actually is, and (2) get the punters into the casino anyway, which is what they want, really.*


* Casinos don't care if it's strippers, SB or performing seals (or all three combined). They really want bums on seats in the gaming areas - period.

[angrybeliever]

An interesting point here also: The casinos use tickets to these shows as comps for the fluid spenders, too.

So, the casinos could end up using HER as bait for keeping their gamblers happy...and since the tickets were from them...she wouldn't get that money.

Lovely thought.


AB

[Locknar]

You'd have to think there are enough skeptics in the Vegas area, that would make these shows interesting to say the least :)

If not for the cost, having Randi, RSL, or say Penn & Teller there in the front row would be a priceless Kodak moment; they would not have to say or do anything...just be there watching.

[RSLancastr]

Unfortunately, it is not assigned seating.

[Locknar]

Unfortunately, it is not assigned seating.

In any event, I'm sure you (et all) would not go un-noticed :)

[Skeptic Guy]

I don't think any of us are into flogging.... so you're safe :)

(SNIP)
ST

Speak for yourself! :D

I like the idea of Penn and Teller doing a street psychic routine "Exposed!" right outside the door! A real humdinger, with noise and lights and everything that would gather a street crowd. You can't get much more chaos and attention than Penn on a roll, and he knows it.

This would accomplish two things: (1) Make SB's routine look as REALLY tired and lame as it actually is, and (2) get the punters into the casino anyway, which is what they want, really.*


* Casinos don't care if it's strippers, SB or performing seals (or all three combined). They really want bums on seats in the gaming areas - period.

Zep, this would be a perfect opportunity for some BS material for P&T. I hope the message gets to them and they try it.

Unfortunately, it is not assigned seating.

That means they have to get there extra-special early! :D

[angrybeliever]

The idea of a group of people with the front row occupied by our own RSL, Randi and other such people...just makes my heart flutter with great excitement. Sylvia would crap her depends, especially if everyone was wearing SSB shirts visible just before she came on in her glory.

AB

[Alice Shortcake]

Oooh, I wish I could afford to be part of that audience...

[FramerDave]

This may have been said already, but I think Vegas is the perfect venue for someone of her caliber. And the lovely (yeah) Excaliber is the perfect place for her. A great match, though I can' imagine why she'd choose to place herself in such close proximity to Penn and Teller.

ETA: Let's look at a letter campaign in a different way. No, it probably would not prompt the hotel to cancel the show. Money, after all, is money. But if they get enough letters they may have to reply. And I would bet that their reply would be that it's for entertainment purposes only. Yeah, it's weaseling out of it, BUT it would force them to admit that she's doing a routine parlor trick, albeit badly. Worthwhile in my opinion.

[Sylvia Clown]

And the lovely (yeah) Excaliber is the perfect place for her. A great match, though I can' imagine why she'd choose to place herself in such close proximity to Penn and Teller.

Maybe so she can bash them while she's on stage?

SYLVIA, ON STAGE IN VEGAS: And I wanna get it clear to everyone that I - I don't wanna name any - any names, but, you know, those two boneheads over at the other casino. So tired of all the magicians who try and refute psychic abilities. We all know better. Yeah, so that's why I'm here so nearby, to tell those "magicians" that I'm not afraid of 'em. I have nothing to be afraid of. I've been psychic for over 60 years, before that my grandmother was psychic, I come from a psychic bloodline, we're all psychic, we've all had the gift, we know it's real. yadda yadda yadda...

[oakster]

mmmnnn!!!!!

[Zep]

Zep, this would be a perfect opportunity for some BS material for P&T. I hope the message gets to them and they try it.P&T would need to look carefully at their deal with The Mirage, I suspect - contractual obligations and all that. Which is probably why they can't do "a show" in Excalibur. However, filming for an ep of BS! could quite possibly be done to coincide with Sylvia's gig, thereby deflating it.

My suggestion would be to develop a really bad send-up of Sylvia's act that goes drastically and humourously awful (in true P&T style). That could be put on BS!, and also in their stage act, and on their billboards, etc. I trust P&T have their own self-promotion down to a fine art! ;)

Also, it's not my idea. I cheerfully point to TheDoLittle above, who suggested it initially. :)

Maybe so she can bash them while she's on stage?

SYLVIA, ON STAGE IN VEGAS: And I wanna get it clear to everyone that I - I don't wanna name any - any names, but, you know, those two boneheads over at the other casino. So tired of all the magicians who try and refute psychic abilities. We all know better. Yeah, so that's why I'm here so nearby, to tell those "magicians" that I'm not afraid of 'em. I have nothing to be afraid of. I've been psychic for over 60 years, before that my grandmother was psychic, I come from a psychic bloodline, we're all psychic, we've all had the gift, we know it's real. yadda yadda yadda...Very true! In actual fact, if Randi and friends were in the front row of her act, they would indeed be putting themselves in her firing line with no chance of a comeback. The audience (such as it is) would be total Sylvia suck-ups, and would not appreciate their presence either. A bad move, I suspect.

I suggest a better idea would be to simply log the attendance records, multiply by the ticket cost, and publish that info. Money talks, and in Vegas, it shouts.

mmmnnn!!!!!You OK there, dude? That's the second post from you in as many threads that I've seen with the same content...

[TheDoLittle]

Also, it's not my idea. I cheerfully point to TheDoLittle above, who suggested it initially. :)


FINALLY!! Recognition at last! Thank you! :Dancing_nerd: Thank you!

Very true! In actual fact, if Randi and friends were in the front row of her act, they would indeed be putting themselves in her firing line with no chance of a comeback. The audience (such as it is) would be total Sylvia suck-ups, and would not appreciate their presence either. A bad move, I suspect.


I was thinking (which is usually a bad thing) hand out T-shirts to people before the show with the dates "March 6th, 2001" and "September 3rd, 2001" printed with big bold letters, and ask them to wear it during her readings... just to see how long Saliva goes before she would be able to understand the significance of the dates and have those shirts banned.

[Locknar]

I was thinking (which is usually a bad thing) hand out T-shirts to people before the show with the dates "March 6th, 2001" and "September 3rd, 2001" printed with big bold letters, and ask them to wear it during her readings... just to see how long Saliva goes before she would be able to understand the significance of the dates and have those shirts banned.


Good idea, though I’d suggest something more blatantly obvious…such as “What about Shaw Hornbeck?” or "Take the JREF Challange!"

[Zep]

"Shawn Hornbeck Support Group"

"CLAWS!!!"

A picture of Jabba the Hutt.

[godless dave]

What you do is have Penn & Teller come out to where the people are lining up (if they line up) for Saliva's show and have them not only do a psychic reading with the crowd, but in true P&T style, show everyone how the trick was done.

You win the internet.

The Excalibur is the casino where they do a King Arthur themed stage show, complete with horses and jousting knights (I saw it last here, it's a lot of fun). So the stage will already be primed with horse manure.

[Hokulele]

I am sorry I didn't notice this thread earlier. I have stayed at the Excalibur in the past (I travel to Las Vegas rather often for work, and that is one of the cheaper properties on the strip) and because of that am on their mailing list. Here is the e-mail I sent to them today.

To whom it may concern,

I am writing to express my disappointment with your property in hosting Sylvia Browne. I have stayed with you many times in the past, but I am afraid that I cannot in good conscience do so in the future. In my opinion, she is a charlatan and fraud in the worst sense, and reflects poorly on your establishment. You can learn more about her at the website www.stopsylviabrowne.com (http://www.stopsylviabrowne.com). Please remove me from your mailing list. Thank you, and I am sorry I will not be patronizing your hotel or casino in the future, as I have had nothing but pleasant experiences with your staff.

[Locknar]

Hokulele (et all) – Perhaps a slightly different tact would be in order.

I looked over the add on the Excalibur’s website…I think a e-mail/complaint campaign based on their hiring SB for “entertainment value” will have limited impact.

However…I suggest they are being dishonest in advertising by proclaiming her has a “world-famous psychic”. I think a far more effective e-mail/complaint campaign would be to question this in terms of “false advertising”…by asking them to provide proof justification of the “psychic” claims, and involving the Vegas “Better Business Bureau”.

As part of their “Code of Advertising (http://www.vegasbbb.org/mission.asp)”, Section 19 (http://www.bbb.org/membership/codeofad.asp#ijust):

Claimed Results
Claims as to energy savings, performance, safety, efficacy, results, etc. which will be obtained by or realized from a particular product or service should be based on recent and competent scientific, engineering or other objective data

I’d argue that the Excalibur’s claim of her being a psychic opens them to providing “competent scientific, …objective data”.

[Hokulele]

Hokulele (et all) – Perhaps a slightly different tact would be in order.

I looked over the add on the Excalibur’s website…I think a e-mail/complaint campaign based on their hiring SB for “entertainment value” will have limited impact.

However…I suggest they are being dishonest in advertising by proclaiming her has a “world-famous psychic”. I think a far more effective e-mail/complaint campaign would be to question this in terms of “false advertising”…by asking them to provide proof justification of the “psychic” claims, and involving the Vegas “Better Business Bureau”.

As part of their “Code of Advertising (http://www.vegasbbb.org/mission.asp)”, Section 19 (http://www.bbb.org/membership/codeofad.asp#ijust):

Claimed Results
Claims as to energy savings, performance, safety, efficacy, results, etc. which will be obtained by or realized from a particular product or service should be based on recent and competent scientific, engineering or other objective data

I’d argue that the Excalibur’s claim of her being a psychic opens them to providing “competent scientific, …objective data”.


Interesting idea. Would you have to attend the show and determine it did not meet the advertised standard before registering a complaint? In any case, I still do not plan on patronizing them in the future. It's not like Las Vegas suffers from any shortage of hotel rooms. ;)

[TheDoLittle]

You win the internet.

No thanks! Can't afford the gift tax! 8-)

[Locknar]

Interesting idea. Would you have to attend the show and determine it did not meet the advertised standard before registering a complaint? In any case, I still do not plan on patronizing them in the future. It's not like Las Vegas suffers from any shortage of hotel rooms. ;)

I read over their codes and did not see anything that mentioned you had to partake of a service before you could complain.

[RSLancastr]

Here's a blog entry of someone who saw Browne's Vegas show at the Excalibur:

VEGAS BABY!!!! (http://elkeandjackson.blogspot.com/2007/08/vegas-baby.html)

Scroll down thru their pictures of Vegas to see a few of Browne signing copies of her "Secret Societies" book.

I believe that the blond woman in the black and white tube top helping her with the books is Heather Brown, the webmaster of the Go Sylvia browne site.

[Zep]

Who do you think is the guy in the shiny suit?

[RSLancastr]

I don't think it's a shiny suit. I think it is a long-sleeved shirt with stripes.

And I don't know who he is. Perhaps some of our ex-NS people can identify him?

[articulett]

I don't think it's a shiny suit. I think it is a long-sleeved shirt with stripes.

And I don't know who he is. Perhaps some of our ex-NS people can identify him?

Great sleuthing, Robert. And I think you're right about the shirt too--but I thought it was a shiny suit at first, as well. Interesting illusion. Thanks for the link!

[Locknar]

Who do you think is the guy in the shiny suit?

My first thought - something very bad has happened to the Tin Man from "The Wizard of Oz"...that or Data, from "Star Trek, Next Generation", lives (and wishes he didn't).

[PastBrowneFan]

The shiny shirt guy is her Assistant, Ben, who is the partner of her Secretary/Prelate/Minister/Board Member Michael.

[SeekingTruth]

I don't think it's a shiny suit. I think it is a long-sleeved shirt with stripes.

And I don't know who he is. Perhaps some of our ex-NS people can identify him?

The man in the shiny shirt is Ben - Prelate Michael McClellan's partner.

ST

[RSLancastr]

I thought it might be Ben or Michael.

Thanks PBF and ST!

[SeekingTruth]

Oops...didn't see PBF's response before I posted the same thing.

ST

[Boo]

"Did you see all the cool orbs in the pictures of the water show at The Bellagio?":rolleyes:



Boo

[Ladewig]

"Did you see all the cool orbs in the pictures of the water show at The Bellagio?":rolleyes:



I was kind of hoping that caption was sarcasm.

[SeekingTruth]

I've wondered why Sylvia Browne's lecture schedule for 2008 has yet to be posted on the Hay House website. Seems she's back in Las Vegas next month. Maybe this is her new gig instead of the lectures. If so, I see this as a positive because she'll be pulling in a lot less people in Vegas than she has been touring the country.

Notice she now has front row $100 seats. Those paying $100 get to ask her a question. :mgbanghead


SYLVIA BROWNE at the EXCALIBUR in LAS VEGAS!
Excalibur Hotel and Casino is pleased to present - Spiritual Teacher and World Renowned Psychic Sylvia Browne this October 2007

Show dates are:

Saturday Oct. 13th 4pm
Sunday Oct. 14th 7:30pm
Monday Oct. 15th 4pm
Tuesday Oct. 16th 4pm
Wednesday Oct. 17th 7:30pm
Thursday Oct. 18th 4pm


Tickets:

VIP $100* Guaranteed Question / Front Seating
PREFERRED $75*
GENERAL $50*

Sylvia hopes to see you in Las Vegas!:wackyarghh:

ST

[alfaniner]

I wonder if anyone will ask her if she predicted the Simpson thing. I mean, she was right there!!!

[Bri]

Might be worth the $100 to ask her a question. So alfaniner would waste his $100 asking her a question that she already has a patented answer for (she has been asked why she didn't predict 9/11 thousands of times I'm sure).

Discuss: What would be the ultimate question to ask Sylvia if you got to ask a question?

-Bri

[ksbluesfan]

A bit off topic, but I wonder if Sylvia lurks on this forum? According to the latest commentary, she's getting into the conspiracy theories. The conspiracy forum on this website would be a great resource for her. Oops, there I go with my own conspiracy theory.

;)

[Minarvia]

A bit off topic, but I wonder if Sylvia lurks on this forum? According to the latest commentary, she's getting into the conspiracy theories. The conspiracy forum on this website would be a great resource for her. Oops, there I go with my own conspiracy theory.

;)

She's a coward so I'm not sure she does. She doesn't even handle her own problems or face her own critics. But no doubt her staff reads everything here about here they can and take careful notes.
Not that it does them any good. I mean, a fraud is a fraud is a fraud. There is no question about it. No amount of reading is going to change that.

[ksbluesfan]

I wouldn't be surprised to see Sylvia offer dowsing as one of the services of her staff. Anything services that suckers will purchase are fair game to SB.

[Minarvia]

I wouldn't be surprised to see Sylvia offer dowsing as one of the services of her staff. Anything services that suckers will purchase are fair game to SB.

Aw, now you've just gone and given her an idea! :eek:

[rjh01]

I would not like to be one of her staff members who have to read this forum. It would challenge their beliefs. This challenge could not be ignored. I know Heather read some of the forum for awhile, now she no longer posts in GSB.

[RSLancastr]

I would not like to be one of her staff members who have to read this forum. It would challenge their beliefs.You are assuming that her staff believes in her abilities.

[Minarvia]

You are assuming that her staff believes in her abilities.

I think some may even consciously shut out the fact that she (until recently) promoted herself as "first and foremost" a psychic, and spiritual teacher second. They may just shut out the psychic part and feel they should only focus on her professed philosophy.

[rjh01]

Well, if they are doing it for the money, I hope they are well paid. Otherwise they should be able to get another job elsewhere. Unemployment is very low.