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Temporal Renegade
3rd August 2007, 03:10 PM
Has this been posted before? If so, apologies, but here it is again, regardless. :)

Now, you can show the world where you stand on the God issue:
You can get shirts with a big letter 'A' on them. In red, of course.

http://outcampaign.org/

From the site:
As more and more people join the OUT Campaign, fewer and fewer people will feel intimidated by religion. We can help others understand that atheists come in all shapes, sizes, colours and personalities. We are labourers and professionals. We are mothers, fathers, sons, daughters, sisters, brothers and grandparents. We are human (we are primates) and we are good friends and good citizens. We are good people who have no need to cling to the supernatural.

I think I need one of these....

quixotecoyote
3rd August 2007, 03:48 PM
I don't want atheism to be the cause. I want rationality and science to be the cause and atheism to follow naturally.

phildonnia
3rd August 2007, 04:20 PM
Usually any "cause" eventually requires compromise with the group and dedication to a belief. I would think that in general, atheists and rational thinkers are more likely to shy away from that.

This is a problem for the success of rationalist philosophy in a world where it seems like you need a large group speaking with one voice to be taken seriously.

Temporal Renegade
3rd August 2007, 04:55 PM
Looking at the shirts again, I just realized that there's a lot of people who probably don't know who Dawkins is, anyway.

What good is a 'statement', if you have to explain it every time you turn around?

icantlogoff
3rd August 2007, 11:03 PM
The A i don't have any problems with, and any questions would lead to hopefully a conversation..sometimes..lol

But i have a problem with the web address on there, to me this seems to be pushing one mans name , which gives the notion of some sort of leader etc, and I see enough Jesus t-shirt around already.

I have nothing against Dawkins, i would feel the same way if it said
samharris.org
hitchings.net etc etc

All who i enjoy reading, but making out to be some focal point..... seems to skate very close to... well you know.

I don't mind wearing a shirt that shows I am atheist, but i am not in rush to advertise the idea that I need another man to be able to think for myself.

T'ai Chi
4th August 2007, 04:43 AM
In the Scarlet Letter, the lady is given the scarlet letter to wear for her sin. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Scarlet_Letter)

Kind of funny that an atheist movement would use the religious idea of sin, eh?

Jeff Corey
4th August 2007, 05:39 AM
Ironically interesting...

Temporal Renegade
4th August 2007, 05:54 AM
Damn. Atheists can't seem to buy a break...

CFLarsen
4th August 2007, 06:20 AM
Ironically interesting...

Yep. T'ai Chi didn't get it.

Again.

Kochanski
4th August 2007, 09:00 PM
Ordered mine, I will wear it proudly.

Achán hiNidráne
4th August 2007, 10:43 PM
As much as I may agree with Dawkin's sentiment and an need for an "atheist pride" movement, I'm not big on symbols. As I said elsewhere, actions speak louder. Declare your atheism, don't shirk from it, and be ready to defend your disbelief (not to mention, your rights) from those who seek to to marginalize you.

Achán hiNidráne
4th August 2007, 10:45 PM
I don't want atheism to be the cause. I want rationality and science to be the cause and atheism to follow naturally.

The trouble is, the other side is going to always equate one with the other, so you might as well make atheism a cause and get it over with.

quixotecoyote
4th August 2007, 10:53 PM
The trouble is, the other side is going to always equate one with the other, so you might as well make atheism a cause and get it over with.

I suppose. It just smacks too much of witnessing/evangelizing for my taste.

Now a t-shirt that had the A, and under it "Skepticism, Isaiah 1:18"

Now that would be interesting.

Charlie Monoxide
4th August 2007, 11:46 PM
I was thinking of buying one of those t-shirts. Not to profess my atheism, but "A" is the initial of my first name in real life ....

Charlie ("eh?") Monoxide

icantlogoff
5th August 2007, 01:29 AM
I suppose. It just smacks too much of witnessing/evangelizing for my taste.

Now a t-shirt that had the A, and under it "Skepticism, Isaiah 1:18"

Now that would be interesting.


Classic!..lol

I'd buy that for a dollar

Irony
5th August 2007, 07:45 PM
In the Scarlet Letter, the lady is given the scarlet letter to wear for her sin. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Scarlet_Letter)

Kind of funny that an atheist movement would use the religious idea of sin, eh?

Wow! For once you actually got the point. I'm assuming by accident, but still...

NeoRicen
6th August 2007, 02:10 AM
It'd be a bit hypocritical of me to bear it considering crosses etc. annoy me. I'd probably only ever bear it in the company of like-minded people.

Temporal Renegade
7th August 2007, 02:05 PM
It'd be a bit hypocritical of me to bear it considering crosses etc. annoy me. I'd probably only ever bear it in the company of like-minded people.

For me, it would be a balance of wanting to express my thoughts, and weighing it against the hassle that might come my way from people who don't appreciate the fact that I like to think on my own once in a while.

ponderingturtle
7th August 2007, 02:11 PM
I will not buy such a shirt for the reason I don't buy any such logo bearing shirts. I generaly can't find one that fits.

Why should wanting a shirt to be 38" down the back in say a 3xl seems to be such an impossible demand I have no understanding of.