Are billionaires like Ernest Rady from San Diego phony?

[JJR]

Ernest Rady, billionaire, recently made the news when a robber stunned him with a taser in his home. Rady survived, but it was a shocking experience. The question is . . . since he gives some of his money to children's hospitals, is he a nice man? Or is something else going on? Is his "King's Mercy" of table scraps just a way for him to appear a decent human being while stealing from others?

Just something to consider. What makes our society members good or evil? What measure do we use to determine the truth?

http://www.xsltblog.com/archives/24805BP~The-Simpsons-Mr-Burns-Excellent.jpg

"Homer . . . I like kids."

What does he really mean by this statement? The mind boggles.

[JJR]

http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/153/826764~Ernest-in-the-Army-Video-Release-Posters.jpg

"Hey Vern! I'm ready to fight . . . going in as an officer and gumming up the works!! Let's stop the commies and smokers of the heathen devil weed, marijuanna!!! Don't want to win or anything though. We need to make money from hellicopters . . . defense contracts . . . but I'm ready to fight!! . . . from a distance . . ."

[fuelair]

No offense, but your point is?

[slingblade]

Ernest Rady, billionaire, recently made the news when a robber stunned him with a taser in his home.

I haven't read the article and have never heard of the man.


Rady survived, but it was a shocking experience.

Oh. How punny.

The My question is

I thought that needed a bit of clarification.

. . . since he gives some of his money to children's hospitals, is he a nice man?

Is there an information drought where you are?


Or is something else going on? Is his "King's Mercy" of table scraps just a way for him to appear a decent human being while stealing from others?

It happens.

Just something to consider.

Really? Why?

What makes our society members good or evil?

Beats me. What's your premise?

What measure do we use to determine the truth?

Like most boys and girls, mine is different from yours. You show me yours, and I might show you mine.

http://www.xsltblog.com/archives/24805BP~The-Simpsons-Mr-Burns-Excellent.jpg

"Homer . . . I like kids."

What does he really mean by this statement? The mind boggles.

Yes, it does: how do you usually determine what a cartoon character means by a statement you placed in his 2-D mouth, and what could it possibly have to do with the other guy?

and......what about Irene? Tune in tomorrow for another thrilling chapter of "As the Brain Cells Die..."

[JJR]

No offense, but your point is?

Uh . . . I'm obviously implying that Rady has ulterior motives behind his charitable impulses. I'm suggesting that he, and people like him are the root cause of our current situation in the Middle East . . . and they are the cause of a variety of problems in America.

Personally, I think that they should all leave the country. They are against everything that America stands for and wants to accomplish. The way of constant warfare, oppression, and deception (can you say 9/11???) is what the founding fathers were fighting against when they declared independance from England and demanded their right to life, liberty, and the persuit of happiness.

Ernest Rady is the enemy, man. Those kids he pretends to love are his human shield, nothing more. If I asked him for some money for, say . . . freeing children from mafia controlled pedophile rings he would laugh in my face.

He'd say he gave at the office, my son. That's his trick, and I'm surprised you can't see through his smoke screen.

[fuelair]

No offense, but without further data this seems just a tad paranoid or anti-wealthy.

[slingblade]

If you get rid of "him and people like him," someone else will just take their places. Nature abhors a vacuum, and when things that suck are removed, she replaces them with things that suck harder.




....I'm surprised you can't see through his smoke screen.

I'm surprised you still haven't realized you didn't provide a link to the story.

[JJR]

No offense, but without further data this seems just a tad paranoid or anti-wealthy.

Data?

Um . . . at my old Toastmasters club at the Port of San Diego where I networked with government employees every week (I was the seargeant-at-arms), a lady in the club made a speech about mafia controlled pedophile rings. She has a charity organization set up for this express purpouse.

I don't see Ernest Rady, the lover of children (or is he a child LOVER???) leaping to the defense of these White slaves. Though the mafia has whole neighborhoods of breeders (parents) and slaves (little White girls) . . . folks like Rady happily drink wine and toast their magnificence as the unthinkable occurs just around the corner.

I wonder why? ;)

I myself was raped at age six by the Principal of my school (Toler Elementary, San Diego), and the effect on my life was disasterous. No one was sued for this. I received no compensation . . . not even acknowledgement. Yet another hush up occured . . . and the Principal lived a long and happy life molesting boys.

You're honestly telling ME that nothing shady is going on with these elitist fabulously rich bastards? You're telling me that with the ability to buy anyone and do anything with them . . . they never do??

Is that what you're saying??

[JJR]

If you get rid of "him and people like him," someone else will just take their places. Nature abhors a vacuum, and when things that suck are removed, she replaces them with things that suck harder.

I'm willing to take that chance for the sake of our kids.

I'm surprised you still haven't realized you didn't provide a link to the story.

Google it. Just type in, "Ernest Rady" and many sites pop up with the complete story. It was also on telivision.

I guess you don't watch the news much.

[SezMe]

JJR, not everyone lives in San Diego and gets the same local news you do. If you want us to understand this story and your connection to it, you'll have to supply some links and some of your own narrative. Without that, this thread resembles a Jackson Pollack painting.

[JJR]

JJR, not everyone lives in San Diego and gets the same local news you do. If you want us to understand this story and your connection to it, you'll have to supply some links and some of your own narrative. Without that, this thread resembles a Jackson Pollack painting.


By Pauline Repard
UNION-TRIBUNE STAFF WRITER

6:45 a.m. February 7, 2007

LA JOLLA – A gunman pretended to be making a delivery to the home of billionaire businessman Ernest Rady Tuesday only to then tie up the homeowners and a maid with duct tape and ransack the house, police said.
Ernest Rady arrived after his wife and housekeeper had already been taken captive, and was then tied up by the intruder, who also shocked Rady with a stun gun . . . (cont.)

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/metro/images/070207rady.jpg
Union-Tribune file photo
Ernest Rady at the June 29, 2006 ceremony announcing his donation of $60 million to what is now the Rady Children's Hospital and Health Center.

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/metro/20070207-0645-bn07rady.html

There you go you lazy lump. :p

[Ryokan]

Yes, all rich people are pedophiles. Why haven't people seen this connection before?!?!

[EvilSmurf]

Data?

Um . . . at my old Toastmasters club at the Port of San Diego where I networked with government employees every week (I was the seargeant-at-arms), a lady in the club made a speech about mafia controlled pedophile rings. She has a charity organization set up for this express purpouse.

I don't see Ernest Rady, the lover of children (or is he a child LOVER???) leaping to the defense of these White slaves. Though the mafia has whole neighborhoods of breeders (parents) and slaves (little White girls) . . . folks like Rady happily drink wine and toast their magnificence as the unthinkable occurs just around the corner.

Ah, the myth of "white slavery".

[quixotecoyote]

Eeeek! Rich people!

[timhau]

Eeeek! Rich people!

Rich folks? Yuck. The only way they're going to stop from hating them is to make me one of them.

[SezMe]

Uh . . . I'm obviously implying that Rady has ulterior motives behind his charitable impulses.

And what would those "ulterior motives be"?

I'm suggesting that he, and people like him are the root cause of our current situation in the Middle East . . . and they are the cause of a variety of problems in America.
Uh, the guy is "a financial services and real estate magnate" (quote from your site). How are such people the "root cause" of our problems in the middle east? Please provide a list of the problems that such people cause in America.

Personally, I think that they should all leave the country. They are against everything that America stands for and wants to accomplish. The way of constant warfare, oppression, and deception (can you say 9/11???) <snip>
Please explain how real estate and financial services people are against everything America stands for. How do such people influence warfare policy. "Oppression" of what? How were such people involved in 9/11 deception? What deception?

Ernest Rady is the enemy, man. Those kids he pretends to love are his human shield, nothing more. If I asked him for some money for, say . . . freeing children from mafia controlled pedophile rings he would laugh in my face.
What is he shielding himself from?

I have no doubt that he would react to such a request with laughter. So would I. But then I'm not a billionaire so maybe the analogy doesn't help much.

He'd say he gave at the office, my son. That's his trick, and I'm surprised you can't see through his smoke screen.
I still do not understand what his smoke screen is supposed to be hiding.

Um . . . at my old Toastmasters club at the Port of San Diego where I networked with government employees every week (I was the seargeant-at-arms), a lady in the club made a speech about mafia controlled pedophile rings. She has a charity organization set up for this express purpouse.
Please provide a link to this charity organization.

I don't see Ernest Rady, the lover of children (or is he a child LOVER???) leaping to the defense of these White slaves. Though the mafia has whole neighborhoods of breeders (parents) and slaves (little White girls) . . . folks like Rady happily drink wine and toast their magnificence as the unthinkable occurs just around the corner.
What White [sic] slaves? Where are these neighborhoods? Have you told the San Diego police about them?

I myself was raped at age six by the Principal of my school (Toler Elementary, San Diego), and the effect on my life was disasterous. No one was sued for this. I received no compensation . . . not even acknowledgement. Yet another hush up occured . . . and the Principal lived a long and happy life molesting boys.
That is very, very sad, JJR. I can understand your anger and frustration. Can you, even at this late date, turn the Principal in to the police. Some very old abuse cases have been resurected in recent years.

But that horrible experience should not be the basis for seeing pedophiles in random news stories. Have you gotten help dealing with your rape? Are you now getting help? If either answer is no, I would strongly encourage you to do so. Nobody, but nobody, should have to deal with child abuse by themselves.

I wish you well and, at the same time, completely reject your inferences based on the news story in the OP.

[slingblade]

I guess you don't watch the news much.

Normally, I do. But at the moment, something far more important is taking up most of my time.

[SezMe]

sling, how do you do take care of that important matter and type on a keyboard at the same time? Sounds pretty kinky to me. :)

[The Painter]

about mafia controlled pedophile rings

I must have missed that episode of the Sopranos :rolleyes:


this thread resembles a Jackson Pollack painting.

Barbarian

[hgc]

Uh . . . I'm obviously implying that Rady has ulterior motives behind his charitable impulses. I'm suggesting that he, and people like him are the root cause of our current situation in the Middle East . . . and they are the cause of a variety of problems in America.
...


I just love singular root causes. Makes complicated stuff so easy to understand.

[a.real.girl]

Like most boys and girls, mine is different from yours. You show me yours, and I might show you mine.


and......what about Irene? Tune in tomorrow for another thrilling chapter of "As the Brain Cells Die..."


Love Slingblade. Love her.

You know, I didn't realize that San Diego was such a evil place. Moreso than anywhere else, it would seem. Billionaires here, especially those who are white....well, I shudder to think of all the things they do...

Like Joan Kroc, widow of the guy who created McDonalds...

Or Audrey Geisel, widow of Dr. Seuss....

Or Joan and Irwin Jacobs, founder of Qualcomm...


They contribute millions and millions to the "greater good" in San Diego and across the border, but I never realized it was ALL JUST A SMOKE SCREEN!

Please, they are no more all bad than I am all Chinese, as you can see from my avatar.


-A

[The Central Scrutinizer]

I win this debate.

[slingblade]

sling, how do you do take care of that important matter and type on a keyboard at the same time? Sounds pretty kinky to me. :)

Oh, you would not believe what sort of trouble we two get into! :D She wants me to show her how I play WoW. I think, were she a little younger, she'd love it. :D

ETA:

Aw! Thank you, A. :blush: I haven't read you for long on the boards, but what I have read, I've enjoyed!

JJR, I have the utmost sympathy for you. I was sexually abused from ages 8 to 14 by, it often seemed, just about every man I came into even the briefest contact with. Apparently, I was a very sexy 8-year-old. I loathe the sexual abuse of children, and the devastation, often silent, it leaves in its wake.

That said, I don't go around imagining every man is a pedophile, and that largely because I don't like other aspects of his life. I read the article you finally liked to: I saw nothing in it, of course, that would indicate what kind of man Rady "really is." Did you really expect us to, and from that?

I had a bit of therapy for my issues, finally. It didn't last nearly long enough, but what little I had really helped. You might want to consider finding someone to talk with about this. Childhood sexual abuse can never be "outgrown," or forgotten. And it isn't even about the sex part, so much as it is about the fact that someone with power over us used it against us, and now we feel locked into learned helplessness. Look, you couldn't help yourself, back then.

You can, however, help yourself now, and by so doing, take your power back.

[JJR]

Republicans are stupid because they give campaign money to idiots and then vote for them. That's all the evidence anyone needs. They tried their best to sell this country, and failed . . . and now they are crying about it instead of making positive changes in their community.

We all know the military acts like a bunch of horny frat boys, and I don't mind people that want to feel safe . . . but when they support the whole war profiteering game and contribute to corruption they become a problem. Not to mention a contradiction.

At any rate, problems must be solved. Rady should contribute to a charity that really saves kids in mortal danger . . . or he is no better than a CANNIBAL.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Republicans are stupid because they give campaign money to idiots and then vote for them.

You realize Democrats do the same thing, right?

[JJR]

I just love singular root causes. Makes complicated stuff so easy to understand.

http://www.janeresture.com/melhome/papua%20new%20guinea%20chief.jpg

Whut u talkin' 'bout WILLIS???

[slingblade]

At any rate, problems must be solved. Rady should contribute to a charity that really saves kids in mortal danger . . . or he is no better than a CANNIBAL.

He did. He contributed to a children's hospital, and "mortal danger" is one of the significant things a hospital is designed to save kids from, if at all possible.

JJR, please. Read what I've advised, and go talk to someone who can help. I really care, and I know it would really do you some good. Please.

[JJR]

You realize Democrats do the same thing, right?

I'm not exactly a Democrat. I voted for Arnold Schwarzenegger twice. I'm basically against corruption and incompitence . . . I'm sure that happenes with a party girl Democrat nurse or medical assistant on dope which leads to negligance (and perhaps death) just as a corrupt war profiteer high on personal power destroys a nation through his evil acts . . . while his lapdogs and mercinaries kill indiscriminately for proffit.

Evil is evil.

[JJR]

He did. He contributed to a children's hospital, and "mortal danger" is one of the significant things a hospital is designed to save kids from, if at all possible.

Uh, you don't think growing up in an evil compound of Mafia slaveholders is dangerous?? What happenes if you say the wrong thing, pal? You're property . . . nothing more. Open your eyes. You're just a heartbeat away from being cold meat the whole time.

JJR, please. Read what I've advised, and go talk to someone who can help. I really care, and I know it would really do you some good. Please.

You know, I honestly would listen to this sort of response . . . if you, and others like you didn't constantly say the same thing (about seeing a doctor) . . . and THEN say, "Then KILL YOURSELF!!!" laughing, and then suggest a few methods going from least to most painful.

As seriously as you take yourself, you must understand that I just can't consider you a serious person when you resort to such theatrics. I mean, sure I'm ********** up because I was molested but so are all the victims of Catholic Priests . . . and they won their lawsuit and got a good settlement.

I'm afraid your attempt at chachter assassination has failed . . . except for the completely stupid who probably don't vote anyway.

[fuelair]

Data?

Um . . . at my old Toastmasters club at the Port of San Diego where I networked with government employees every week (I was the seargeant-at-arms), a lady in the club made a speech about mafia controlled pedophile rings. She has a charity organization set up for this express purpouse.

I don't see Ernest Rady, the lover of children (or is he a child LOVER???) leaping to the defense of these White slaves. Though the mafia has whole neighborhoods of breeders (parents) and slaves (little White girls) . . . folks like Rady happily drink wine and toast their magnificence as the unthinkable occurs just around the corner.

I wonder why? ;)

I myself was raped at age six by the Principal of my school (Toler Elementary, San Diego), and the effect on my life was disasterous. No one was sued for this. I received no compensation . . . not even acknowledgement. Yet another hush up occured . . . and the Principal lived a long and happy life molesting boys.

You're honestly telling ME that nothing shady is going on with these elitist fabulously rich bastards? You're telling me that with the ability to buy anyone and do anything with them . . . they never do??

Is that what you're saying??I have not told you a thing, yet. I have asked for (indirectly) for some evidence of your assumptions - and have seen none so far. I do not recall saying anything about shady or what billionaires do with their money. I also mention that assuming what you say is correct (re:your principal) (and do not even try saying I am calling you a liar - I am not - but without documentation, I cannot assume you are accurate -not my fault or yours - just reality) that does not translate into this billionaire is doing the same thing - and , frankly, although it is a possibility, I have neither heard nor seen evidence of mafia controlled pedophile rings and it is quite possible that the woman in question is a fraud (I am not saying she is - but where is her evidence).

To be more clear, and assuming that all statements you have given as statements are correct (and leaving out all commentary/opinion you gave) this is what we have: As a six year old, you were raped by your principal and nothing was done about it with "disasterous" (not implying anything - do not know how you interpret disasterous) effects on your life. Many years later a billionaire who contributes to "children's hospitals" was attacked in his home. A woman at a club you worked in gave a speech (but no hard data presented here) stating that the mafia has a pedophile supply ring and that she has an organization
that fights it. The aforementioned billionaire does not financially support it.

Additionally, where he supports childrens hospitals, you suggest that this may be because he is a pedophile - and where he has not supported a (no offense) possibly fraudulant organization fighting a mafia controlled pedophile
ring complete with breeders it may be because he is a pedophile.

You also indicate that billionaires are quite probably all dishonest.

Nowhere do you offer proof for any assumptions or statements (proof is documentation from legitimate sources - and you have offered no sources so far that can be quickly checked (articles about Rady and any shady transactions or child assaults - or even the attack, text of speech and research on the woman and her organization, hospitals he supports, evidence that he even knows about the anti-mafia pedophile org., etc).


That is what was meant by my "what's your point" and "further data" comments.

[timhau]

How about this (http://art-bin.com/art/omodest.html) for proof?

[fuelair]

http://aftermathnews.wordpress.com/tag/elite-pedophile-rings/

http://judicial-inc.biz/marc_dutroux.htm unclear source/accuracy

http://www.talkaboutalternative.com/group/alt.mindcontrol/messages/55107.html have to go down a way - does not come up logically

None of these come up as the Mafia (Italian) last one includes military and satanism but also includes the breeder thing. None mentions an organization to help said children of the type stated.

[slingblade]

Uh, you don't think growing up in an evil compound of Mafia slaveholders is dangerous?? What happenes if you say the wrong thing, pal? You're property . . . nothing more. Open your eyes. You're just a heartbeat away from being cold meat the whole time.

Well, of course the article you linked mentions none of that. I'm sorry, but there's just no comment to make to this.



You know, I honestly would listen to this sort of response . . . if you, and others like you didn't constantly say the same thing (about seeing a doctor) . . . and THEN say, "Then KILL YOURSELF!!!" laughing, and then suggest a few methods going from least to most painful.

I have never said that to you, nor anything remotely like it. I just finished an entire year's worth of suicidal thoughts--extreme ones--and I can now say, confidently, that's I hell I wouldn't wish on even my worst enemy. Not even on my abusers, and they are legion.

Aside from that, there's the petty matter of such being firmly against forum rules. I know I have never broken that rule.

As seriously as you take yourself, you must understand that I just can't consider you a serious person when you resort to such theatrics.

I haven't done so, though. I didn't realize at the time of my first post that you are so hurt, or I wouldn't have been so flip. I apologize. But it's way, way too easy for us to use what's happened to us to get sympathy from others. I tell my stories so people here are aware they're talking to someone who has first-hand experience with certain things. I do it to illustrate empathy, NOT to get sympathy.
Sympathy will never help me get better. Sympathy forms the mud of self-pity, and I really am tired of wallowing there. Aren't you?

WTF, I'm ready to live my life, even if I'm still struggling with the hows and the whys. Aren't you?

I mean, sure I'm ********** up because I was molested but so are all the victims of Catholic Priests . . . and they won their lawsuit and got a good settlement.

All I got was a greater understanding of pain, but precious few tools to help me make it into something useful.

I'm afraid your attempt at chachter assassination has failed . . . except for the completely stupid who probably don't vote anyway.


I thought your OP was ranting, superficial, and also a massive full-frontal assault on someone else's character--someone I've never even heard of! I thought then that sauce for the goose ought to be sauce for your gander. I see my error now, and apologize again.

But your pain doesn't justify what you're doing to this man. You're doing far more than just well-poisoning; you are at least skirting the dangerous territory of libel. Think about how what I wrote made you feel, and how you obviously feel you didn't deserve it. I have no idea if this man deserves the same from you, and suggest you refrain, for your own sake.

Please go talk to someone.

[fuelair]

How about this (http://art-bin.com/art/omodest.html) for proof?
But he doesn't mention the mafia connection!!!:D

[The Central Scrutinizer]

I'm not exactly a Democrat. I voted for Arnold Schwarzenegger twice. I'm basically against corruption and incompitence . . . I'm sure that happenes with a party girl Democrat nurse or medical assistant on dope which leads to negligance (and perhaps death) just as a corrupt war profiteer high on personal power destroys a nation through his evil acts . . . while his lapdogs and mercinaries kill indiscriminately for proffit.


Ummmmm.......What???? :boggled:

[JJR]

I have not told you a thing, yet. I have asked for (indirectly) for some evidence of your assumptions - and have seen none so far. I do not recall saying anything about shady or what billionaires do with their money. I also mention that assuming what you say is correct (re:your principal) (and do not even try saying I am calling you a liar - I am not - but without documentation, I cannot assume you are accurate -not my fault or yours - just reality) that does not translate into this billionaire is doing the same thing - and , frankly, although it is a possibility, I have neither heard nor seen evidence of mafia controlled pedophile rings and it is quite possible that the woman in question is a fraud (I am not saying she is - but where is her evidence).

To be more clear, and assuming that all statements you have given as statements are correct (and leaving out all commentary/opinion you gave) this is what we have: As a six year old, you were raped by your principal and nothing was done about it with "disasterous" (not implying anything - do not know how you interpret disasterous) effects on your life. Many years later a billionaire who contributes to "children's hospitals" was attacked in his home. A woman at a club you worked in gave a speech (but no hard data presented here) stating that the mafia has a pedophile supply ring and that she has an organization
that fights it. The aforementioned billionaire does not financially support it.

Additionally, where he supports childrens hospitals, you suggest that this may be because he is a pedophile - and where he has not supported a (no offense) possibly fraudulant organization fighting a mafia controlled pedophile
ring complete with breeders it may be because he is a pedophile.

You also indicate that billionaires are quite probably all dishonest.

Nowhere do you offer proof for any assumptions or statements (proof is documentation from legitimate sources - and you have offered no sources so far that can be quickly checked (articles about Rady and any shady transactions or child assaults - or even the attack, text of speech and research on the woman and her organization, hospitals he supports, evidence that he even knows about the anti-mafia pedophile org., etc).


That is what was meant by my "what's your point" and "further data" comments.


Good point in there somewhere. No, I do not have a picture or video of this guy having sex with kids. I never said that he does that directly . . . just that his negligence contributes to it, destroying his immage of a kind man who loves kids.

I know how they operate, though. If he is a pedo, he has one or more family types with a kid or two that he uses. Wouldn't be hard to trace that down . . . using even primitive steak out methods . . . although you could certainly be accused of stalking for doing so . . . so I am not reccomending that anyone do that. Hey, that would be illegal and I'm just making a point.

As for the Mafia neighborhoods . . . typically, they have people living there who work for them and the kids play outside. The John picks one, and the deal is sealed. They controll whole apartment complexes . . . huge ones with about 20 houses.

It's pretty gross, man . . . and I'm socially liberal.

[JJR]

But your pain doesn't justify what you're doing to this man. You're doing far more than just well-poisoning; you are at least skirting the dangerous territory of libel. Think about how what I wrote made you feel, and how you obviously feel you didn't deserve it. I have no idea if this man deserves the same from you, and suggest you refrain, for your own sake.

Please go talk to someone.

I'm not accusing Rady of anything other than indifference. You are reading too much into my text.

Take a step back. Inhale and exhale.

[JJR]

http://aftermathnews.wordpress.com/tag/elite-pedophile-rings/

http://judicial-inc.biz/marc_dutroux.htm unclear source/accuracy

http://www.talkaboutalternative.com/group/alt.mindcontrol/messages/55107.html have to go down a way - does not come up logically

None of these come up as the Mafia (Italian) last one includes military and satanism but also includes the breeder thing. None mentions an organization to help said children of the type stated.


If you can believe the first link, that pedophile rings are being used by the rich and the powerful of Mexico, then you can believe it is happening in the United States.

[JJR]

Yes, all rich people are pedophiles. Why haven't people seen this connection before?!?!

I never said that directly, so your refuting of a statement that was not made is silly. You are a silly person, but sometimes silly is good.

[fuelair]

If you can believe the first link, that pedophile rings are being used by the rich and the powerful of Mexico, then you can believe it is happening in the United States.

I do not believe I said it is not happening in the US - as a matter of fact, it probably is. My argument is specifically Mafia run, breeding "factories" not supported - and the only source I could locate (the last I gave) is suspicious as all get out as factual - and is not Mafia.

And we still have no link to the speechmaking woman or to her organization - not even - unless I have missed something - its' name. (hint)

[JJR]

I do not believe I said it is not happening in the US - as a matter of fact, it probably is. My argument is specifically Mafia run, breeding "factories" not supported - and the only source I could locate (the last I gave) is suspicious as all get out as factual - and is not Mafia.

The mafia totally runs these compounds without walls. I find it very disturbing. Slavery was abolished by the 14th ammendment to the Constitution. Wars are started over such things.

And we still have no link to the speechmaking woman or to her organization - not even - unless I have missed something - its' name. (hint)

I could ask John, the former President of our club for the information some time. Interesting club. Multi-millionaires and billionaires frequent the Port of San Diego, and I met the voice trainer for Arnold Schwarzenegger (our Govenor) at one of our meetings.

I really do love dressing up (I wore a tie) and interacting in an official manner with important members of my community. I wish more people could experience the sense of pride one gets from communicating with different social castes and peoples.

I felt almost as good as when I was baptized and given the authority to baptize as a priest with the laying on of hands in Ward 10 of the LDS church. Jesus and the apostles were fishermen and we'd hang out in Heaven. If we wanted to, heh.

I even got to be an announcer at a Mother Goose Parade through connections made at Toastmasters meetings. That was a lot more fun than the other job I got where I opened a building for the city. It turned out to be a bathroom in La Jolla, and the event was called, "The Royal Flush".

Man, what a crappy job that was.

[JJR]

Love Slingblade. Love her.

You know, I didn't realize that San Diego was such a evil place. Moreso than anywhere else, it would seem. Billionaires here, especially those who are white....well, I shudder to think of all the things they do...

Like Joan Kroc, widow of the guy who created McDonalds...

Or Audrey Geisel, widow of Dr. Seuss....

Or Joan and Irwin Jacobs, founder of Qualcomm...


They contribute millions and millions to the "greater good" in San Diego and across the border, but I never realized it was ALL JUST A SMOKE SCREEN!

Please, they are no more all bad than I am all Chinese, as you can see from my avatar.


-A

Then why hasn't Mahommed gone to the mountain, sweetie? I'm only suggesting that he is a token "nice guy" Republican billionaire trying to make his twisted friends and himself look good . . . when in fact he is just what you think about him at a glance . . . a selfish miser.

Now, is a selfish miser "evil"? What is, "evil"? What is a, "conscience"?

When we understand this, we will understand how to move forward past such wanton avarice that slows down the progress of Mankind. We are behind scheduel, and dorks like this aren't helping.

EDIT: I don't like indifferent dirtbags. That's out.

[The Painter]

I never said that directly.



So, you admit to saying it, indirectly. Yes?

[JJR]

So, you admit to saying it, indirectly. Yes?

When you peddle flesh or support people that do the same you are immoral. The usury does not necessarilly have to involve sex. The casual disregard of the flesh and blood of our young soldiers makes you wicked enough in my book. If you're not part of the sollution, you're part of the problem.

EDIT: Plus, I really do believe that all the muscles in his lower back would clench if I dared to ask him for support for the aforementioned charity that deals with the problem of child prostitution. The lady who spoke at the party about it (she also runs it) is a very important person in our society, as are all the members of Portmasters . . . these people work for the government.

Are we not supposed to, at least to a marginal degree . . . obey the basic laws of kings and magistrates in the land we live in? Child prostitution is illegal . . . I think of England when I think of Child Labor . . . and kids with deformed skeletons from slaving at machines all day during their growth period.

[SezMe]

I felt almost as good as when I was baptized and given the authority to baptize as a priest with the laying on of hands in Ward 10 of the LDS church. Jesus and the apostles were fishermen and we'd hang out in Heaven. If we wanted to, heh.

JJR, are you an active priest in the Mormon church?

[JJR]

JJR, are you an active priest in the Mormon church?

Not at this time. I've been too busy partying with friends to go to church, but I have credentials nonetheless. It is a matter of record that I am a priest.

EDIT:Am I one of the saints, though because I'm not living strictly by the Word of God? God knows, but I still strive for perfection in whatever I do.

[Ladewig]

I agree that child prostitution is abhorrant. Everything that can be done to prevent it must be done.

The part I don't understand is why you won't give us the name of the charity that is fighting it. I am no millionaire, but I do give money to charities. Will you give us the name and address of this charity?!

[The Painter]

Not at this time. I've been too busy partying with friends to go to church, but I have credentials nonetheless. It is a matter of record that I am a priest.

I've read your posts. To busy partying for church. A Mormon? This one is the icing on the cake. You are a phony. A fake, phony and a fraud. Get off my internet.

[JJR]

I've read your posts. To busy partying for church. A Mormon? This one is the icing on the cake. You are a phony. A fake, phony and a fraud. Get off my internet.

2880 Govenor Drive, San Diego. Ward 10. It was a long year and a half (no partying) . . . but we played lots of softball.

Next you'll say that Mormons can't be Gay. You're a geeennnyus, bud.

[The Painter]

Ward 10

The psycho ward??? Dun Dun Duuun


Next you'll say that Mormons can't be Gay

Next you'll tell me Mormons can't be pedophiles

[JJR]

I agree that child prostitution is abhorrant. Everything that can be done to prevent it must be done.

The part I don't understand is why you won't give us the name of the charity that is fighting it. I am no millionaire, but I do give money to charities. Will you give us the name and address of this charity?!

It's Sunday. It would be better to call the Port tomorrow . . . unless of course I go look up the e-mail addresses of some people in the Toastmasters books in my Dad's office . . . why he loves doing taxes for people I'll never understand.

I'll get the charity's name and address.

[JJR]

The psycho ward??? Dun Dun Duuun

Family Ward. Lots of kids and Mom's and Dads. A bit boring even though some of the couples were as young as folks in the Single's Ward. I migrated to the Single's Ward shortly after I was baptized.

Like I said, it was a good time playing softball with church members. I brought in a ringer with a $200 bat and kleats.

[JJR]

Next you'll tell me Mormons can't be pedophiles

Don't be gross, dude!!! Smoke some ganja mon!! U trippin'!!! :eye-poppi

:jaw-dropp

[The Painter]

I don’t do drugs. As for you “it’s medication time”. Go take your xanax and lexapro.

[JJR]

I don’t do drugs.

I totally believe you, dude and it's all you have to say. Stay out of my threads, please. Move on, my son, move on.

Try a thread about Russia.

[a.real.girl]

OK, I'm a little unclear about w.t.f. your point might be. Can you provide names and numbers for the "lady" who might verify your story, or did she go to the mountain you speak about?

And if the Governor Drive address is the big temple, what does that have to do with anything you've said?

Oh, wait. Is there a bridge there on the grounds somewhere? That perhaps you spend time trolling beneath?

I have no problem saying some folks are not what they seem. I have no problem agreeing that some people purposely front false info.

Indeed, you seem to be just that sort of somebody.

-A

[The Painter]

I’m not your son you freak. You come on here and rant about pedophilia, and then you claim to be a priest. I ask you, who are the biggest pedophiles?? The freaking priests, that’s who. You are a phony. A fake, phony and a fraud. Get off my internet.

[JJR]

OK, I'm a little unclear about w.t.f. your point might be. Can you provide names and numbers for the "lady" who might verify your story, or did she go to the mountain you speak about?

And if the Governor Drive address is the big temple, what does that have to do with anything you've said?

Oh, wait. Is there a bridge there on the grounds somewhere? That perhaps you spend time trolling beneath?

I have no problem saying some folks are not what they seem. I have no problem agreeing that some people purposely front false info.

Indeed, you seem to be just that sort of somebody.

-A

You are incorrect. I am part of the priesthood.

[JJR]

I’m not your son you freak. You come on here and rant about pedophilia, and then you claim to be a priest. I ask you, who are the biggest pedophiles?? The freaking priests, that’s who. You are a phony. A fake, phony and a fraud. Get off my internet.

What do you know about 2nd Nephi 5:21-25 or Mosiah 3:19? The statement I made about obeying the laws of kings and magistrates in a previous post is straight from the Articles of Faith, and you missed it.

I'd say that makes me more of an authority than you on the Book of Mormon and the DNC (Doctrine and Covenants).

You're a flamer. Get off my internet. :mad:

[a.real.girl]

Again, can you provide any way to verify any part of your story.

It's easy. Just try.

-A

P.S. Saying you're part of the priesthood doesn't exactly negate your ability to purposely front false info or you being not what you seem. Indeed, it kind of supports my idea here....

[Ryokan]

Wouldn't be hard to trace that down . . . using even primitive steak out methods . . .

Medium, rare or well done?

As for the Mafia neighborhoods . . . typically, they have people living there who work for them and the kids play outside. The John picks one, and the deal is sealed. They controll whole apartment complexes . . . huge ones with about 20 houses.

How do you know this? And why haven't you gone to the police with it?

[Ryokan]

I never said that directly, so your refuting of a statement that was not made is silly. You are a silly person, but sometimes silly is good.

My nick means 'The Great Fool' ;)

[JJR]

Again, can you provide any way to verify any part of your story.

It's easy. Just try.

-A

P.S. Saying you're part of the priesthood doesn't exactly negate your ability to purposely front false info or you being not what you seem. Indeed, it kind of supports my idea here....

My "story" is that Rady is a fraud.

To verify this . . . I guess I should write him and ask him for some money . . . when he says, "NO!!!" than I can say for sure that he is a fraud. Why do I say he is a fraud without what you call "proof"? I used to canvass for Greenpeace. I know the type that slams the door, babe.

All I'm really saying is that, as a Christian, it offends me that people care so little for starving orphans. That's what Christians are supposed to do.

[JJR]

Medium, rare or well done?

Rare.

How do you know this? And why haven't you gone to the police with it?

I've seen them. That doesn't mean I've participated in anything so obviously I have no "proof" . . . other than knowing kids who lived there. If they wanted to talk, sure.

EDIT: The expensive ones are protected. The cops are paid.

[Ryokan]

I've seen them. That doesn't mean I've participated in anything so obviously I have no "proof" . . . other than knowing kids who lived there. If they wanted to talk, sure.

If you know about this, yet do nothing, then you're just as guilty as those you are accusing. Maybe even more so.

Why do you let pedophiles go unprosecuted, JJR?

EDIT: The expensive ones are protected. The cops are paid.

I'm sure somewhere in your country there is an honest cop, federal agent or prosecutor who would love to do something about this, if he only knew about it. Not even the President of the USA is immune, witness Clinton and his blowjob.

You're just standing there, watching this and letting it happen? Can you say evil, JJR?

[The Painter]

I'd say that makes me more of an authority than you on the Book of Mormon and the DNC

My God can beat up your God

[JJR]

If you know about this, yet do nothing, then you're just as guilty as those you are accusing. Maybe even more so.

Why do you let pedophiles go unprosecuted, JJR?

I talk about the one in Santee and the one I saw in Linda Vista all the time. It's not my fault if nothing happenes because of it.

See my finger?? It's pointing!! I just mentioned them again!!

K?

Linda Vista: Comstock Street.

[JJR]

My God can beat up your God

Expect to be banned tomorrow. ;)

[Ryokan]

I talk about the one in Santee and the one I saw in Linda Vista all the time. It's not my fault if nothing happenes because of it.

See my finger?? It's pointing!! I just mentioned them again!!

K?

It's 100% your fault if you don't go forward with this. You're a pedophile-enabler, JRR. How does it feel?

I'm not even on the same continent as you, but if you're able to give me all the information you possess, I'm sure I can get in touch with someone in the state of California who can put a stop to this. If what you say is true, it's an honest person's obligation to do something about it.

I wonder why you haven't.

[The Painter]

Expect to be banned tomorrow. ;)

Why don't you just have him hit me with a bolt of lightning?

[JJR]

It's 100% your fault if you don't go forward with this. You're a pedophile-enabler, JRR. How does it feel?

I'm not even on the same continent as you, but if you're able to give me all the information you possess, I'm sure I can get in touch with someone in the state of California who can put a stop to this. If what you say is true, it's an honest person's obligation to do something about it.

I wonder why you haven't.

Not enough evidence. If I was actually a sick pervert, I would be able to bust them easily . . . though I, myself, would also be imprisoned.

[a.real.girl]

My "story" is that Rady is a fraud.

To verify this . . . I guess I should write him and ask him for some money . . . when he says, "NO!!!" than I can say for sure that he is a fraud. Why do I say he is a fraud without what you call "proof"? I used to canvass for Greenpeace. I know the type that slams the door, babe.

All I'm really saying is that, as a Christian, it offends me that people care so little for starving orphans. That's what Christians are supposed to do.


You should ask me for money...I'd say "NO!!!" and then you can say I'm a fraud and be done with it. In fact, I'll just say "NO!!!" now, and you can call me psychic, that way you know I'm a fraud.

I'll ask again. Please provide details on how one might go about supporting your "starving orphans." You'll understand if I decline any offer of sending money directly to you, I hope.

Also, how does this support the idea that Rady is somehow responsible for the trouble in the Middle East, as you assert above? Oh, never mind. It doesn't.

-A

[Ryokan]

Not enough evidence. If I was actually a sick pervert, I would be able to bust them easily . . . though I, myself, would also be imprisoned.

So? As long as you know about this, it's still all your fault that it's going on. If you were interested in stopping this, you'd go to an honest cop, federal agent or prosecutor and help him put a stop to this.

As long as you're not, you are just as guilty as those who are doing this.

But I see that talking to you is just like talking to a wall. Goodbye, pedophile-enabler.

[JJR]

You should ask me for money...I'd say "NO!!!" and then you can say I'm a fraud and be done with it. In fact, I'll just say "NO!!!" now, and you can call me psychic, that way you know I'm a fraud.

I'll ask again. Please provide details on how one might go about supporting your "starving orphans." You'll understand if I decline any offer of sending money directly to you, I hope.

Also, how does this support the idea that Rady is somehow responsible for the trouble in the Middle East, as you assert above? Oh, never mind. It doesn't.

-A


Oh, I'd need at least 4 million in order to support myself and two or three other molested kids I know so . . . no thanks. You don't have the means to assist me.

And they actually are kids, unlike me.

[JJR]

So? As long as you know about this, it's still all your fault that it's going on. If you were interested in stopping this, you'd go to an honest cop, federal agent or prosecutor and help him put a stop to this.

As long as you're not, you are just as guilty as those who are doing this.

But I see that talking to you is just like talking to a wall. Goodbye, pedophile-enabler.

I tell cops all the time that I've hung out with teen age guys that are prostitutes and have been since they were kids, but they don't give a damn. They'd rather arrest the poor in California, chief. It's something you learn quickly.

[Ryokan]

I tell cops all the time that I've hung out with teen age guys that are prostitutes and have been since they were kids, but they don't give a damn. They'd rather arrest the poor in California, chief. It's something you learn quickly.

Go to a journalist, then.

[JJR]

Go to a journalist, then.

It's a thought. I doubt much would come of it.

The kids don't want to talk. They know I know, but will not do anything to bust the baddies. It's just part of city life, really. Why should they stick their neck out? That's what they are thinking.

[a.real.girl]

So, at the risk of hearing more useless blather, please enlighten how one would assist those who you deem in need.

There's no way to reach this charity you speak of, there's no way to meet these folks you talk about, and there's nothing to be done to get the word out...at least according to you.

So.....why are you here? What is it you're seeking? Not help, not money, not ideas, not the truth...so.......what?

[Ladewig]

It's Sunday. It would be better to call the Port tomorrow . . . unless of course I go look up the e-mail addresses of some people in the Toastmasters books in my Dad's office . . . why he loves doing taxes for people I'll never understand.

I'll get the charity's name and address.

I must be missing something here, JJR. Please help me understand.

You strongly advocate for the rights of children and believe that people should be judged on their willingness to help children brutally raped by pedophiles. You also say that these victims have almost no recourse to law because police officers are bribed.

You claim that the only resource available to help the victims of these horrible, horrible crimes is this specific charity. Yet you do not have the name, address, URL, or e-mail address. I am amazed almost the point of speechlessness.

[fuelair]

Then why hasn't Mahommed gone to the mountain, sweetie? I'm only suggesting that he is a token "nice guy" Republican billionaire trying to make his twisted friends and himself look good . . . when in fact he is just what you think about him at a glance . . . a selfish miser.

Now, is a selfish miser "evil"? What is, "evil"? What is a, "conscience"?

When we understand this, we will understand how to move forward past such wanton avarice that slows down the progress of Mankind. We are behind scheduel, and dorks like this aren't helping.

EDIT: I don't like indifferent dirtbags. That's out.
OK, now we know you like communism ("When we understand this, we will understand how to move forward past such wanton avarice that slows down the progress of Mankind.")

But you keep suggesting. Where is your proof? How do you know (if there actually is an organization like you claim the woman said she had) that the guy does not contribute to it (though based on earlier responses you made I assume you would then say "he did it to hide his pedophilia!" as you "suggested" re: hospital donations. You are still running your keyboard and providing NO EVIDENCE OF ANY KIND. That goes for you statement about the mafia (and if not clear from many of my other posts, I would happily help take mafia members out without waste of court time) BUT I have found NO evidence of Mafia connected pedophile rings in US or otherwise and no evidence of any organization fighting same here in the US on the net - and I am not a bad hunter where research is involve. That's why I ask for your info on it since you still are not providing anything but "I say it."
No evidence, I do not believe you.

[JJR]

So, at the risk of hearing more useless blather, please enlighten how one would assist those who you deem in need.

There's no way to reach this charity you speak of, there's no way to meet these folks you talk about, and there's nothing to be done to get the word out...at least according to you.

So.....why are you here? What is it you're seeking? Not help, not money, not ideas, not the truth...so.......what?

Hey, there's nothing wrong with being fiscally conservative sometimes. I'll take money. If Rady wanted to pay me 4 million I'd be a lot happier and plus he would prove me wrong.

Logical, interesting, etc etc.

Yeah. I'd take the money. Of course.

[JJR]

I must be missing something here, JJR. Please help me understand.

You strongly advocate for the rights of children and believe that people should be judged on their willingness to help children brutally raped by pedophiles. You also say that these victims have almost no recourse to law because police officers are bribed.

You claim that the only resource available to help the victims of these horrible, horrible crimes is this specific charity. Yet you do not have the name, address, URL, or e-mail address. I am amazed almost the point of speechlessness.

Whatever. Everyone knows the vice is everywhere, man. You're kind of in an Ivory Tower there aren't ya? That's coffee you smell btw.

[JJR]

OK, now we know you like communism ("When we understand this, we will understand how to move forward past such wanton avarice that slows down the progress of Mankind.")

But you keep suggesting. Where is your proof? How do you know (if there actually is an organization like you claim the woman said she had) that the guy does not contribute to it (though based on earlier responses you made I assume you would then say "he did it to hide his pedophilia!" as you "suggested" re: hospital donations. You are still running your keyboard and providing NO EVIDENCE OF ANY KIND. That goes for you statement about the mafia (and if not clear from many of my other posts, I would happily help take mafia members out without waste of court time) BUT I have found NO evidence of Mafia connected pedophile rings in US or otherwise and no evidence of any organization fighting same here in the US on the net - and I am not a bad hunter where research is involve. That's why I ask for your info on it since you still are not providing anything but "I say it."
No evidence, I do not believe you.

It would be difficult to get evidence. I mean, you'd have to have a child and whore him out, meeting people and remembering names. Obviously it could be done.

Someone like me could then visit the breeder family plants (operatives) and make general observations. Observations about the actual size of the compound, general layout, and the way illegal business procedes.

What an interesting idea. :D

EDIT: Hey, pal you're the Bob Weir of posting. By that I mean innovative if weird. Never chuck your ability to make the intuitive leap. The royal road to creativity.

[Ladewig]

Whatever. Everyone knows the vice is everywhere, man. You're kind of in an Ivory Tower there aren't ya? That's coffee you smell btw.

I have no idea why you think I am in an ivory tower. I never exprressed doubt as to your claim that children are abused. I didn't even questioned your claim that the police officers are bribed. So why are you accusing me of being out of touch?!

My only question is why do you not have information about the only resource capable of helping children at your fingertips to pass on to everyone who might consider donating to this charity.

[a.real.girl]

Well, that clears things up considerably.

No. Evidence. Whatsoever. For anything you've said.

I'm all done here.

[JJR]

I have no idea why you think I am in an ivory tower. I never exprressed doubt as to your claim that children are abused. I didn't even questioned your claim that the police officers are bribed. So why are you accusing me of being out of touch?!

My only question is why do you not have information about the only resource capable of helping children at your fingertips to pass on to everyone who might consider donating to this charity.

Because I don't work for them. I'm just passing along information. Like everyone, I work for myself, and for the government when I pay tax.

The fight against child prostitution is everywhere, just as vice is everywhere. The organization I mentioned is one of many.

Just pick one, man.

[JJR]

Well, that clears things up considerably.

No. Evidence. Whatsoever. For anything you've said.

I'm all done here.

Only because the sociological situation is such that people are not motivated to talk. Things change, especially when we do the right thing . . . I strongly believe that this disease will be cured through exposure and awareness.

People know.

[Sir Robin Goodfellow]

This thread is bizarre. It makes little sense.

[JJR]

This thread is bizarre. It makes little sense.


THE ARTICLES OF FAITH
of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints

1 . .
2 . ..
. . .

10 We believe in the literal gathering of Israel and in the restoration of the Ten Tribes; that Zion (the New Jerusalem) will be built upon the American continent; that Christ will reign personally upon the earth; and, that the earth will be renewed and receive its paradisiacal glory

11 . . .

12 We believe in being subject to kings, presidents, rulers, and magistrates, in obeying, honoring, and sustaining the law.

13 . . .

Well, at least something was accomplished.

[Ladewig]

Because I don't work for them. I'm just passing along information.

That claim might be better received if there were even a scintilla of useful information in any of your posts.

The fight against child prostitution is everywhere, just as vice is everywhere. The organization I mentioned is one of many.

Just pick one, man.

Of course. There are many charities that help child victims of organized crime.

This thread is useless. I invite JJR and all other posters to mock me mercilessly if I return to this thread.

[JJR]

Well, I thought it was a fun debate. We discussed the possibility of a loophole existing for the rich that enables them to appear charitable when, in reality, they may not be. We discussed organized crime (which may lead people to finding - and funding - worthy charities on the net) and we discussed Toastmasters International, a non-proffit organization that helps people improve their public speaking skills. Communication is very important (many people post for the same reason folks go to Toastmasters - to improve their debating skills) and so is networking with young urban professionals . . . since they run things.

I really did state exactly where the charity I mentioned was discussed - at the Port of San Diego . . . their, "Portmasters" club. Anyone can use information (the phone - dial 411) and call the Port and ask a few questions if they so desire.

Just . . . don't be too weird if you call the Port. It is, after all, a government building with government employees working there.

[Darth Rotor]

Ernest Rady is the enemy, man. Those kids he pretends to love are his human shield, nothing more. If I asked him for some money for, say . . . freeing children from mafia controlled pedophile rings he would laugh in my face.

Hyperbole and reductionist analysis noted, though I do like your "kids as his human shields" metaphor. Nice turn of phrase. Too bad it can't disguise cloudy thinking.

Since you haven't asked him to help with "freeing children from mafia controlled pedophile rings" (not sure how his money would help, but if it would, he might contribute to so worthy a cause) I wonder at how you come to this conclusion.

DR

[JJR]

Hyperbole and reductionist analysis noted, though I do like your "kids as his human shields" metaphor. Nice turn of phrase. Too bad it can't disguise cloudy thinking.

Thanks . . . I think . . . and since I never obfuscated I see no need to form the assertion that my thinking has clouds. Perhaps your deductive logic that led you to this unfounded conclusion is faulty. Go back to square one and procede back to here step by step.

Since you haven't asked him to help with "freeing children from mafia controlled pedophile rings" (not sure how his money would help, but if it would, he might contribute to so worthy a cause) I wonder at how you come to this conclusion.

DR

Again, I was a canvasser for Greenpeace for a year and a half. I've had many doors slammed in my face. I was even attacked by a dog once . . . fortuneately I was wearing combat boots and knew from my childhood that mildly tough dogs turn into whimpering puppies when popped in the nose.

The point is that I know the type that won't listen. No matter how much we shock the system with minor displays of discontent (political activism - what some call "ecoterrorism" and "counterproductive") some idiots can't condescend to speak to those who really need the money for nothing but good works.

I say things like . . . "Well, uh . . . Toastmasters can work with that inner confidence thing, guy," but am not heard . . . sometimes it's frustrating. You've heard the expression, "Well, why don't you just write your Congressman instead of being crazy?" . .. well, it's standard procedure to ask for signatures for petitions and to hand out pre-typed letters at the door when canvassing for Greenpeace. . . so people can write their congressman!!! We are political activists - not salesmen. If we can't get a standard donation we go for less . . . for change if need be, then we ask for stamps. After all, we write a lot of letters . . . to our congressman and other public servants. Sometimes we're really glad we asked people for stamps.

I'd take a roll of stamps any time. They are very usefull.

Don't forget to vote, freshmen!!! Oh, and are you registered for the draft? It's the law, you know. ;)

Thank you.

[Darth Rotor]

Thanks . . . I think . . . and since I never obfuscated I see no need to form the assertion that my thinking has clouds. Perhaps your deductive logic that led you to this unfounded conclusion is faulty. Go back to square one and procede back to here step by step.
Having read the entire thread before I posted, I find that you have done a lot of foaming at the mouth in this thread, which indicates to me a pattern of cloudy thinking, complete without substantiation of the charges you make.
Again, I was a canvasser for Greenpeace for a year and a half. I've had many doors slammed in my face. I was even attacked by a dog once . . . fortuneately I was wearing combat boots and knew from my childhood that mildly tough dogs turn into whimpering puppies when popped in the nose.
What does this have to do with your charge that this billionaire enables pedophilia?
The point is that I know the type that won't listen. No matter how much we shock the system with minor displays of discontent (political activism - what some call "ecoterrorism" and "counterproductive") some idiots can't condescend to speak to those who really need the money for nothing but good works.
My irony meter just cracked. Thanks for nothing, Mister "Transmit Mode Only."
You've heard the expression, "Well, why don't you just write your Congressman instead of being crazy?" . .. well, it's standard procedure to ask for signatures for petitions and to hand out pre-typed letters at the door when canvassing for Greenpeace. . . so people can write their congressman!!! We are political activists - not salesmen. If we can't get a standard donation we go for less . . . for change if need be, then we ask for stamps. After all, we write a lot of letters . . . to our congressman and other public servants. Sometimes we're really glad we asked people for stamps.
Not relevant to the discussion at hand, though your energy in activism is appreciated for its own sake. Now, what have you done to approach Mr Rady to garner support for this charity that allegedly pursues the Mafioso Pedophilse?
Don't forget to vote, freshmen!!! Oh, and are you registered for the draft? It's the law, you know. ;)
This has to do with what, excatly, in the case of Mr Rady and pedophiles?

I will guess that you realize required registration for "the draft" is a sexist, discriminatory statute, since

females are not so required to register

but

are not penalized for not so doing via denial of access to student loans.

The Fourteenth Amendment wept. :p

Hey, look, I can follow you into the Off Topic gutter. Guess I'd better stop.

DR

[The Central Scrutinizer]

This thread is bizarre. It makes little sense.

I haven't figured out a damn thing JJR is saying. It's jibberish.

Others seem to be able to figure it out though. At least a little.

[JJR]

Having read the entire thread before I posted, I find that you have done a lot of foaming at the mouth in this thread, which indicates to me a pattern of cloudy thinking, complete without substantiation of the charges you make.

I'm only stating that Mr. Rady is indifferent to the plight of molested children, myself included.

What does this have to do with your charge that this billionaire enables pedophilia?

What does my experience in Greenpeace have to do with my charge that Rady is indifferent and self-absorbed . . . indirectly causing crime against children to occur because of his not donating to a charity that prevents it? Well, Greenpeace is charity, so I'm stating that I have experience begging for money, basically and know who is going to fork over some change and who is going to use his cell phone and call the cops if he is approached. Working for charity is one of my chosen professions, sir.

I am a Medical Assistant, a Greenpeace canvasser, and a priest in the LDS church. That's what I do, buddy.

My irony meter just cracked. Thanks for nothing, Mister "Transmit Mode Only."

I'm right here. I'm hearing you on FM.

Not relevant to the discussion at hand, though your energy in activism is appreciated for its own sake. Now, what have you done to approach Mr Rady to garner support for this charity that allegedly pursues the Mafioso Pedophilse?

Word gets around. Who knows? He could know about what I've said about him right now.

This has to do with what, excatly, in the case of Mr Rady and pedophiles?

What does attempting to get young male citizens to register for the draft have to do with Ernest Rady, the wimpy aristocrat? Well . . . nothing.

I just wanted to express my support of our troups, if not the way they are being used. This war stupid and is getting 18 year old . . . babies . . . killed in bayonette charges because they are full of hormones.

They should be back home getting girls I know pregnant.

I will guess that you realize required registration for "the draft" is a sexist, discriminatory statute, since

females are not so required to register

but

are not penalized for not so doing via denial of access to student loans.

The Fourteenth Amendment wept. :p

Hey, look, I can follow you into the Off Topic gutter. Guess I'd better stop.

DR

You said it, not me. ;)

[JJR]

I haven't figured out a damn thing JJR is saying. It's jibberish.

Others seem to be able to figure it out though. At least a little.

:blush: You can't buy a rainbow, sweetie!! :blush:

:) :D :)

There! A positive, definate statement. How could THAT be jibberish?

And it's cute.

[JJR]

Maybe Rady would feel better about life dealing him a sour (but not fatal!!!!) blow if he knew that my friends all plot against me daily. We then joke about it and plot against another companion. Sometimes we make movies about basing on each other and put it on Youtube.

Webcams are fun. Chin up, there mayte!! ;)

[JJR]

Rich folks? Yuck. The only way they're going to stop from hating them is to make me one of them.

Yup.

Money would ease the abrasion considerably, though I'll never be comfortable in some kind of huge palace. The only way is if I got the stained wood stone-age looking tables and chairs I saw at a tikki statue carving place here in San Diego.

All the preparation and fuss involved with all the pomp rich folks enjoy just seems so French. It's impossible for me to feel completely at ease (like with family) in such habitats. Feels more official. I come from simple folk like my Grandma, Bonnie Rose (Scottish Rose Clan) who always had a humble table filled with good healthy food. Educating herself because of her limited (eighth grade) education, she studied astronomy so she could stimulate the minds of her children . . . by just going outside and watching the sky!

Instead of telivision we robbed the bees (spinning out the honey in a centrifuge after de-capping the little hexagonal cells with an electric hot knife) and chewed honeycomb instead of gum. We got about a 70 pound yield, and made home-made ice cream with peaches fresh off the tree, strawberries from the garden, and lots of honey!!!

Mmmmm mmmm good! ;)

[JJR]

Ah, the myth of "white slavery".

Pedophiles tend to molest within their ethnic group.

[slingblade]

Well, I thought it was a fun debate. We discussed the possibility of a loophole existing for the rich that enables them to appear charitable when, in reality, they may not be.

"loophole?" That's a term normally used for things like laws: things that are supposed to be binding, but can actually be gotten around, if you know how.

By your logic, we're all guilty of such a loophole as you describe. Just about everyone has appeared, at one time or another, to be something or someone he is not.


We discussed organized crime (which may lead people to finding - and funding - worthy charities on the net) and we discussed Toastmasters International, a non-proffit organization that helps people improve their public speaking skills. Communication is very important (many people post for the same reason folks go to Toastmasters - to improve their debating skills) and so is networking with young urban professionals . . . since they run things.

None of which affects me in any way, shape, or form. I frankly had little idea that's what we were talking about.

I really did state exactly where the charity I mentioned was discussed - at the Port of San Diego . . . their, "Portmasters" club. Anyone can use information (the phone - dial 411) and call the Port and ask a few questions if they so desire.

Just . . . don't be too weird if you call the Port. It is, after all, a government building with government employees working there.

I'm not calling anyone. Nothing you've said makes any sense, nor is there any evidence I could show anyone about the frankly looney accusations you've made.

I just hope you can find someone to talk to.

Oh, and thanks for apologizing for your accusation that I've urged you to commit suicide.




Yes, I know you didn't apologize.


You really should.

[Darth Rotor]

I just hope you can find someone to talk to. Oh, and thanks for apologizing for your accusation that I've urged you to commit suicide. . . . snip with malicious glee for humorous intent . . .

You really should.
There, fixed it to read good, like a thought bubble should.

So glad sling's evil twin isn't real. :D

DR

[slingblade]

Oh, Darth, I mostly love you, but please, please don't.

[jab712]

I would like to say interesting thread but I am not sure.

My thoughts....

If Rady wants to give all of his money to one charity and not the others that is completely his choice and that doesn't mean he is evil for doing so.

If he gave all of his money to this Children's Hospital it does not mean:
1) he hates women because he didn't give to the Battered Women's Shelter.
2) he hates animals because he didn't give to the Humane Association.
3) he is athiest because he didn't give to the church.

It only means that he liked this Children's Hospital. I could read lots of things into it but it serves no purpose at all.

I have worked as an administrator on 3 large private foundations. Each one of them was very different in terms of how they approved grants.

1) Large with very strict rules about who they gave to. There were deadlines, exclusions (ie not giving to medical research) They wanted to target a certain areas. They didn't want to spread the money thin, they wanted more of an impact with the money they donated. So they weren't apt to giving small dollar amounts. They wouldn't write 4000 checks of $1000 to the local charities. They instead researched and picked charities that fit their criteria.

2) The second foundation wasn't as strict and didn't have as many funds. They liked to give to a specific area though (Animals and Cultural Arts...period.) Only rare occassions that they would break out of the Animal and cultural arts bubble. They didn't mind putting out little dollar amounts to many organizations if they fit within their criteria.

3) The third (my favorite) had no real rules. All you had to do with this one, tug at the heart strings. You do that, you get your grant.

Now to my point. These three foundations were controlled by VERY rich people. They can't spend their money in their lifetime. It isn't possible. Are these people good people? For the most part, yes. They can be very generous, can be nice, etc. But they can also be jerks...just like everyone else. These people are not evil because they don't give to everything. They aren't pedophiles, rapists, or murderers. Because they give to one organization and not another? Please....get a grip.

I would like you to try and imagine what it is like giving away money to charity. It is wonderful, really, but it isn't easy. It isn't easy to decide who you give to and who you reject.

Say for example you have a foundation valued at $100M. One hundred million dollars is a lot of money. Oh boy, a lot. You are required to distribute 5% to keep your exempt status. More than likely you have your funds invested conservatively. You would NOT go aggressive on a foundation in terms of investing. You want income/growth to maintain your foundation and grow your assets so you have more to give. With that, on your conservative investments you are getting a return of 7-10%....maybe. 5% MUST be given away. You then have 2-5% for growth, or to give away. So on a year of good return on your investments you have 8% to give away. That is $8M.

Now with your assets of $100M you are on the foundation database as having large assets. It is a matter of public record. They see that you have $100M, you are about to get lots of requests. You aren't going to get the mailers asking for $100 - $1000 donations, you are getting requests on capital campaigns. Second Harvest Food Bank needs a new warehouse, they have asked for $5M, Brenner's Children's Hospital needs a new cancer wing and are asking for $10M, the YMCA is asking for a new building for the inner city Youth Center, they are asking for $3M.

You have $8M to give, but $18M in requests. Now that is just three. There are at least 25 other requests, (more like 100 really). All of the requests are legit and worthy causes. How do you decide?

You can sit there and say exactly what you would do, but you don't know. What I find incredibly appalling is that you jump to the conclusion of evil because Rady didn't give to this mafia pedophile organization when clearly he likes kids because he gave to the children's hospital.

Regardless whether or not this organization is legit, which sounds a bit out there to me (I would like to see a copy of the determination letter of 501(c)3 status), it was his choice to make and it doesn't make him a bad person.

[Solus]

Is JJR friends with LCL? They should have a get together.

[Darth Rotor]

Oh, Darth, I mostly love you, but please, please don't.
Yeah, sorry, that was on the edge of misbehaving and trying to use your for cover.

Not gallant, certainly.

My bad. :(

DR

[SezMe]

I am a Medical Assistant, a Greenpeace canvasser, and a priest in the LDS church. That's what I do, buddy.

A combination, when combined with his foaming at the mouth (thanks, DR) in this thread I find to be a frightening thing. :jaw-dropp

[Darth Rotor]

A combination, when combined with his foaming at the mouth (thanks, DR) in this thread I find to be a frightening thing. :jaw-dropp
I don't know, it seems about right to me for California, the land of fruits and nuts. (Note: both of my kids born in SD County.)
I am a Medical Assistant, a Greenpeace canvasser, and a priest in the LDS church.
Is this a great country or what? Anything is possible. :D

DR

[The Painter]

Hey, what do you know. I have not been hit with a bolt of lightning or banned. I'd just like to repeat one thing, this guy is from...

The psycho ward??? Dun Dun Duuun

[Foolmewunz]

I know the board (like all boards) has a disclaimer about the posts being the opinions of the writers, but this really borders on libel, and should probably be locked away.

I'm quite sure that someone like Rady has a "clipping" service looking for his name in the news. I'd only hope they don't see this wild-eyed speculation.

There is no evidence for calling this man a pedophile other than some ill-concevied notion by the OPer.

Guggenheim, Rockefeller, Gates, etc.... Anyone who has money and founds or gives to a charity is subject to the same ridiculous paranoid connect-the-invisible-dots logic.

[JJR]

"loophole?" That's a term normally used for things like laws: things that are supposed to be binding, but can actually be gotten around, if you know how.

By your logic, we're all guilty of such a loophole as you describe. Just about everyone has appeared, at one time or another, to be something or someone he is not.

I don't see why you don't understand what I am doing. Rady is a fine example of a Republican attempting to make himself look like a kind man, and I am attempting to disprove it. Nothing more is going on here.

Again, stop reading so much into my text.

None of which affects me in any way, shape, or form. I frankly had little idea that's what we were talking about.

See above.

I'm not calling anyone. Nothing you've said makes any sense, nor is there any evidence I could show anyone about the frankly looney accusations you've made.

Uh . . . my only accusation is that he is indifferent. I think you're looking for all of the wrong emotions.

See above.

I just hope you can find someone to talk to.

Take up thy stethescope and walk. ;)

Oh, and thanks for apologizing for your accusation that I've urged you to commit suicide.

I never accused you of that.

Yes, I know you didn't apologize.

True, because I never said it.

You really should.

Appologise for what I never said? I'd rather quote Shakespeare if it's to be drama.

Fortuneately for you I only have the bibles next to me. :cool:

[JJR]

I know the board (like all boards) has a disclaimer about the posts being the opinions of the writers, but this really borders on libel, and should probably be locked away.

Pornography = prostitution specious logic. How can accusing someone of being indifferent be libel? If your rant relates to sex or some other kind of personal habbit, sure. Caught being indifferent is not humilliating like being caught naked.

I'm quite sure that someone like Rady has a "clipping" service looking for his name in the news. I'd only hope they don't see this wild-eyed speculation.

Uh, he is indifferent. The proof is in the pudding.

There is no evidence for calling this man a pedophile other than some ill-concevied notion by the OPer.

I never said that he is one.

Guggenheim, Rockefeller, Gates, etc.... Anyone who has money and founds or gives to a charity is subject to the same ridiculous paranoid connect-the-invisible-dots logic.

Not really. The law requires facts in order to prosecute. Relax and trust the system.

[JJR]

A combination, when combined with his foaming at the mouth (thanks, DR) in this thread I find to be a frightening thing. :jaw-dropp

Okay, but I've been happy and relaxed the whole time I've been posting. I have warm feelings about you and most of the people here.

Warm and fluffy. :rolleyes:

[JJR]

I would like to say interesting thread but I am not sure.

My thoughts....

If Rady wants to give all of his money to one charity and not the others that is completely his choice and that doesn't mean he is evil for doing so.

If he gave all of his money to this Children's Hospital it does not mean:
1) he hates women because he didn't give to the Battered Women's Shelter.
2) he hates animals because he didn't give to the Humane Association.
3) he is athiest because he didn't give to the church.

It only means that he liked this Children's Hospital. I could read lots of things into it but it serves no purpose at all.

. . .

You can sit there and say exactly what you would do, but you don't know. What I find incredibly appalling is that you jump to the conclusion of evil because Rady didn't give to this mafia pedophile organization when clearly he likes kids because he gave to the children's hospital.

Regardless whether or not this organization is legit, which sounds a bit out there to me (I would like to see a copy of the determination letter of 501(c)3 status), it was his choice to make and it doesn't make him a bad person.

You are incorrect. If I was asking him to take money away from the hospital you would have something, but you do not because I am only asking for a fraction of what he gave to the hospital . . . he can just give a tiny bit more . . . without taking anything away from the kids at the hospital.

We do not have to choose between protecting our children from molestation and their need to be healed. Frankly, the two are often related. Oh, and if I was asking for the same ammount that the hospital got you might be right again . . . at least things would get hazy at that point. Choosing a side there would be dicey.

I think my humble request for SOME money is a good way to reveal the truth. I could easily be too provocative and create what you are worried about, but I am restraining myself.

Remember, a Greenpeace canvasser is trained to ask for money, then pocket money, and then stamps or envelopes. If someone won't even give that, then they must have a problem with environmentalists since they give it to squatters.

That's why canvassing is so facinating. It's like doing a survey while you do the first job - educating the public and asking for donations.

[slingblade]

Uh, you don't think growing up in an evil compound of Mafia slaveholders is dangerous?? What happenes if you say the wrong thing, pal? You're property . . . nothing more. Open your eyes. You're just a heartbeat away from being cold meat the whole time.



You know, I honestly would listen to this sort of response . . . if you, and others like you didn't constantly say the same thing (about seeing a doctor) . . . and THEN say, "Then KILL YOURSELF!!!" laughing, and then suggest a few methods going from least to most painful.

As seriously as you take yourself, you must understand that I just can't consider you a serious person when you resort to such theatrics. I mean, sure I'm ********** up because I was molested but so are all the victims of Catholic Priests . . . and they won their lawsuit and got a good settlement.

I'm afraid your attempt at chachter assassination has failed . . . except for the completely stupid who probably don't vote anyway.


See that bolded part?

You want to tell me again that you never said it?

You don't get to dictate to me how I read you. If I'm not understanding you, the fault is with how you express yourself. It is not with my comprehension.

[slingblade]

Yeah, sorry, that was on the edge of misbehaving and trying to use your for cover.

Not gallant, certainly.

My bad. :(

DR

It's okay. That sort of reply is why I mostly love you. :)

[Darth Rotor]

It's okay. That sort of reply is why I mostly love you. :)

I feel a lot of love in this room.
I'm afraid your attempt at chachter assassination has failed . . . except for the completely stupid who probably don't vote anyway
And, unfortunately, a lot of stupid.

WTF is a chachter? Is that like a catheter (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catheter), without the wit? Oops, sorry, we are dealing with JJR Foreskin, my bad: being redundant. :boggled:

DR

[Segnosaur]

Remember, a Greenpeace canvasser is trained to ask for money, then pocket money, and then stamps or envelopes. If someone won't even give that, then they must have a problem with environmentalists....

Uhhh... no. Just because someone doesn't give to Greenpeace does not mean they have a problem with environmentalists in general, or are not in favour of protecting the environment. Its quite possible that someone just doesn't like the tactics of the organization, or doesn't trust that the money will be well spent. I myself would never give to Greenpeace, but would be quite willing to give to other environmental charities (such as The Nature Conservancy).

Similarly, some people would be totally unwilling to give to an animal rights group like PETA, not because they don't like animals, but because they disagree with things like PETA's support of arsonists. However, they may be willing to give to organizations like the local Humane society.

Just because this Rady individual didn't donate to your favorite charity does not mean that he does not feel that stopping the exploitation of kids is not a worthy goal. Likely he may not suffer from the same delusion that you do that 'all' the police are bribed.

[JJR]

See that bolded part?

You want to tell me again that you never said it?

You don't get to dictate to me how I read you. If I'm not understanding you, the fault is with how you express yourself. It is not with my comprehension.

The misunderstanding we have here comes from your apparent inexperience with silly people forums. I usually post on gaming forums and it's either kids or immature adults who love to say, "Dude, just slit your wrists!!! It could work out for the best!!!"

So . . . even when I said that people like you say that it wasn't as serioius as you think I was being. K?

Just relax.

[JJR]

Uhhh... no. Just because someone doesn't give to Greenpeace does not mean they have a problem with environmentalists in general, or are not in favour of protecting the environment. Its quite possible that someone just doesn't like the tactics of the organization, or doesn't trust that the money will be well spent. I myself would never give to Greenpeace, but would be quite willing to give to other environmental charities (such as The Nature Conservancy).

Similarly, some people would be totally unwilling to give to an animal rights group like PETA, not because they don't like animals, but because they disagree with things like PETA's support of arsonists. However, they may be willing to give to organizations like the local Humane society.

Just because this Rady individual didn't donate to your favorite charity does not mean that he does not feel that stopping the exploitation of kids is not a worthy goal. Likely he may not suffer from the same delusion that you do that 'all' the police are bribed.

I'd say it's highly probable that the man in question is phony . . . which is what this thread is titled. Not, "Is he a child molester?" because that's just too silly.

I think he does not really love kids. Again, I am only accusing him of indifference and I have . . .

1. A reason for doing it (he won't give to a charity I know).
2. A cure for the reason (just giving to the charity, dude).

[slingblade]

The misunderstanding we have here comes from your apparent inexperience with silly people forums. I usually post on gaming forums and it's either kids or immature adults who love to say, "Dude, just slit your wrists!!! It could work out for the best!!!"

So . . . even when I said that people like you say that it wasn't as serioius as you think I was being. K?

Just relax.

I feel so awful for you. I really, really do.

[Segnosaur]

Uhhh... no. Just because someone doesn't give to Greenpeace does not mean they have a problem with environmentalists in general, or are not in favour of protecting the environment. Its quite possible that someone just doesn't like the tactics of the organization, or doesn't trust that the money will be well spent.
...
Just because this Rady individual didn't donate to your favorite charity does not mean that he does not feel that stopping the exploitation of kids is not a worthy goal. Likely he may not suffer from the same delusion that you do that 'all' the police are bribed.


I'd say it's highly probable that the man in question is phony . . . which is what this thread is titled. Not, "Is he a child molester?" because that's just too silly.

I think he does not really love kids. Again, I am only accusing him of indifference and I have . . .

1. A reason for doing it (he won't give to a charity I know).
2. A cure for the reason (just giving to the charity, dude).

As of yet, you have not posted any information on this charity that is supposed to be helping children (despite being asked for that information several days ago). For all we know, this 'charity' could be a scam, or it could be totally ineffective in actually acomplishing its stated goals.

This board is geared towards skepticism. Skeptics demand information and proof. You have not provided any regarding this 'charity'. I know I certaily wouldn't trust it based on what you've told me so far.

Once again... failure to contribute to YOUR favorite charity does not mean that the individual does not support the goals of the charity. They may simply not like the tactics of the charity, or view the charity as inefficient in accomplishing its goals.

[JJR]

As of yet, you have not posted any information on this charity that is supposed to be helping children (despite being asked for that information several days ago). For all we know, this 'charity' could be a scam, or it could be totally ineffective in actually acomplishing its stated goals.

This board is geared towards skepticism. Skeptics demand information and proof. You have not provided any regarding this 'charity'. I know I certaily wouldn't trust it based on what you've told me so far.

Once again... failure to contribute to YOUR favorite charity does not mean that the individual does not support the goals of the charity. They may simply not like the tactics of the charity, or view the charity as inefficient in accomplishing its goals.

The charity is run by another Republican who is also a government employee. It's unlikely that he thinks of it the way he may think of Greenpeace. If he did, it would just mean that he was insane and suffering from delusions because employees of the Federal Government don't usually act like annoying sabotours . . . ecoterrorists. His being insane would win my argument perfectly since depraved indifference is certainly a cracked up state of mind.

I don't have to post a link to the charity here because:

1. Rady lives in San Diego and what the government folks want is well known. He knows where to find us, he just chooses not to do so every day. As I said, he won't listen. He turns a deaf ear to the truth and a blind eye to the atrocity of White slavery for his own reasons.

2. I already mentioned an easily verifiable source - The Port of San Diego. You can call them any time and ask if they ever had a, "Portmasters" - A Toastmasters International club meeting there. They will prove that I am not lying by transfering you to someone who has something to do with the club (a club officer) and that person may be able to direct you to the lady who runs the charity.

EDIT: Just thought of an option that doesn't involve the telephone. Toastmasters International undoubtably has a web site. Somewhere on that site is probably a listing of clubs in San Diego, California. One of them is, "Portmasters".

Option B.

[JJR]

I feel so awful for you. I really, really do.

Kthxbye.

[Solus]

Kthxbye.

Do you have a reason for typing like a l33t kiddy?

[JJR]

Do you have a reason for typing like a l33t kiddy?

Oh that. It helps to avoid uber p:ownage or whatever on gaming forums.

Kids r dumb. ;)

[Segnosaur]

The charity is run by another Republican who is also a government employee. It's unlikely that he thinks of it the way he may think of Greenpeace.

He doesn't have to think of it as "Greenpeace" to consider the charity as being not worthy of receiving donations. He just has to consider it as being less effective at helping children than other charaties.


I don't have to post a link to the charity here because:

Note: This is different than your earlier claims where you said you WERE going to post a referenc to the charity (but were going to do it after the weeked). so, what's changed? You want us to believe Rady doesn't like kids because there's a worthwhile charity that helps stop certain types of child abuse, you have to at LEAST show that such a charity exists.

1. Rady lives in San Diego and what the government folks want is well known. He knows where to find us, he just chooses not to do so every day.

Why should it be up to Rady to 'try and find you'?

As I said, he won't listen. He turns a deaf ear to the truth and a blind eye to the atrocity of White slavery for his own reasons.

Uhhh... no. Your arguments are based on rather shakey premises, such as how the police won't do anything because they're corrupt. I wouldn't give you a dime either based on your insane rantings here.

2. I already mentioned an easily verifiable source - The Port of San Diego. You can call them any time and ask if they ever had a, "Portmasters" - A Toastmasters International club meeting there.

Uhhh... no.

YOU made the claim, YOU provide the evidence. That's the way it works. I have no intention of wasting my time trying to track down phantom leads all in the hope of trying to verify something that you were responsible for in the first place.

[JJR]

Dude, I'm not going to jump through that hoop for you. Google can provide you with a link to Toastmasters International, and then to Portmasters. You don't have to leave your chair in front of your monitor to verify this. It's the friggin' PORT OF SAN DIEGO for the love of MIKE, man!!! What the duce?? It's a highly guarded government installation where billionaires and city officials conduct meetings to debate proposals for everything from water conservation to street maintenence . . . lots of matters important to the city.

It's so strange how your "logic" seems to paint a picture of me retreating from providing evidence I promised to deliver when the damn structure is a solid as solid as a rock squat there right by the airport. It's not goin' anywhere, man until the big one, maybe.

You are the perfect example of a man blinded by the miopia of logical fallacy. The woll is over your eyes, but not mine!!!

My GOD man! :eye-poppi :jaw-dropp :rolleyes:

[Segnosaur]

Dude, I'm not going to jump through that hoop for you.

And I'm not going to jump through hoops for YOU. Once again, you make the claim, you provide the evidence. Its a simple concept and one you should understand when participating on a forum populated with skeptics.


Google can provide you with a link to Toastmasters International, and then to Portmasters.

What if I told you I did a search and found that the only charity I could find was actually a front for a scam artist who lied about "white slavery" rings in order to bilk money from people?


You don't have to leave your chair in front of your monitor to verify this. It's the friggin' PORT OF SAN DIEGO for the love of MIKE, man!!!

If its so easy, then you should be doing it, to satisfy the demands for evidence provided by multiple people on this forum.


It's so strange how your "logic" seems to paint a picture of me retreating from providing evidence I promised to deliver when the damn structure is a solid as solid as a rock squat there right by the airport.

During the weekend, you promised you'd provide a reference to the charity. Now, you are saying you will not.

Therefore, you retreated.


You are the perfect example of a man blinded by the miopia of logical fallacy. The woll is over your eyes, but not mine!!!

Nope, I'm a man who, when presented with a rather bizarre claim, demands evidence to back up the claims. You did not provide that evidence.

[slingblade]

Do you have a reason for typing like a l33t kiddy?


He apparently thinks I'm 12, instead of 12 times 4. It's okay. Getting mad at him won't help anyone. He deserves pity, and I do, indeed, pity him greatly.

[JJR]

http://maps.google.com/maps?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4DKUS_enUS233US233&um=1&q=port+of&near=San+Diego,+CA&fb=1&cid=0,0,6220320142843278230&sa=X&oi=local_result&resnum=1&ct=image

http://www.portofsandiego.org/

It couldn't be simpler. :boggled:

[JJR]

He apparently thinks I'm 12, instead of 12 times 4. It's okay. Getting mad at him won't help anyone. He deserves pity, and I do, indeed, pity him greatly.

Okay there bud.

[Segnosaur]

http://maps.google.com/maps?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4DKUS_enUS233US233&um=1&q=port+of&near=San+Diego,+CA&fb=1&cid=0,0,6220320142843278230&sa=X&oi=local_result&resnum=1&ct=image

http://www.portofsandiego.org/

It couldn't be simpler. :boggled:

Nope, nothing on those links about your mythical anti-white slavery charity. I'm beginning to think that, like bigfoot, it doesn't exist. Where's the charity name and/or reference that you promised on the weekend? Do you regularly make a habit of breaking promises? Does your god smile on you when you lie like that?

[JJR]

Ridiculous. All of the information is available on the web and could be retrieved through e-mail. That's the bottom line.

[Foolmewunz]

Ridiculous. All of the information is available on the web and could be retrieved through e-mail. That's the bottom line.

Nope. Nothing on there about "portmasters", either. I see Aaron Neville's coming to town, though. Why not go ask him if he's going to save mafia-abducted children?

[fuelair]

Oh that. It helps to avoid uber p:ownage or whatever on gaming forums.

Kids r dumb. ;)
Ys u sem 2b!
the fact that there is a Portmaster in SD is in no way proof of an organization like you described or even that the person you described is not sufficient. No such organization as you describe has web/net presence, no posts, no site, no nuthin'. So, she was lying, you are lying or you are wrong - unless you can present proof to the contrary.

And, to verify, neither site you give (one is a google map proving, I guess, that the San Diego Port exists -the other its organization and related info). No pedophiles there. Or pedophile charities either!

[Segnosaur]

Ridiculous. All of the information is available on the web and could be retrieved through e-mail. That's the bottom line.

Once again, since you seem to be a little slow on the uptake..

you made the claim, you provide the evidence.

Given the fact that you seem to be a supporter of the charity yourself, how can you NOT know the name? It would have taken less time for you just to type the name of the charity rather than bombard us with useless links.

More and more you're looking like a troll.

Just out of curiosity, when Rady was approached about giving to this charity, did anyone actually tell him the name of it, or give any information? Or did they (as you are doing) just say "give me some money... you can use the internet to find what the charity actually does".

[Billdave2]

Bump.

Still hoping to find out where to send my donations to free the poor Mafia abducted children.