[Split From] Creepy

[OldSchool]

I think someone is setting up that the Democrats were in on it too so the 9/11 CT crap can continue if the GOP loses power in 2008.
I would love for a CT'er to get a 9/11 CTer to get his question selected for one of these Youtube debates. (I think it is a lousy debate format,but that is another question). Watch every candidate fall over themselves do distance themselves from that crap.
And my Contempt for Old School increases with his comments on the US Military.He is starting to sound like a aging Sixties Radical trying to relive the GLory Days.

The 1960's was the greatest time in American History. Was a revolution of artistic expression and a new level of freedom. The 1990's have many similarities too the 1960's aside from the fact our Country was at war. I was lucky enough to have been at College during the late 1990's.

As my Father is a Vietnam Veteran I know first hand the horrors of the 1960's.
It's just to bad were making the same mistake all over again. He would be the first to tell you Vietnam was a mistake and Iraq isn't any different. He would make this comment even though he's very Republican.

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[SpaceMonkeyZero]

God, I'm so glad I'm Gen X, and my parents were "Depression Babies" and I didn't get any of that Baby Boomer nonsense taught to me as a kid.

Give me the nostalgia of the 80s over the 60s anyday.

[OldSchool]

God, I'm so glad I'm Gen X, and my parents were "Depression Babies" and I didn't get any of that Baby Boomer nonsense taught to me as a kid.

Give me the nostalgia of the 80s over the 60s anyday.

The 1980's were the most depressing of any decade since the 1920's. Artistic expression actually skipped a decade altogether. I've never met anybody, and I was very popular especially in College, who felt as though the 1980's intellectually progressive in anyway.

The 1960's were full of the greatest artists of our decade. Jim Morrison is still ahead of his time even today. He was no doubt a crazy man, however such as many great writers, he's misunderstood even to present day. The 1990's were an artistic explosion. Bands such as "Rage Against the Machine", "Pantera", "White Zombie", "Nine Inch Nails", "Phish", "Rusted Root", "Megadeath", "Korn", "Tool", "Pearl Jam" and "Sound Garden", to name just a few of the bands which became famous during the 1990's. I've seen all of the above live at least once as I've witnessed first hand quite variety of crowds. I find the 1960's and 1990's to be extensions of each other, neither of which were depressing by any standard.

[Dog Town]

I know this is off topic, but I had to reply to OS's nonsense!
All quotes are Old Schools!

The 1980's were the most depressing of any decade since the 1920's. Artistic expression actually skipped a decade altogether. I've never met anybody, and I was very popular especially in College, who felt as though the 1980's intellectually progressive in anyway.
I attended college 84-88, while starting my career, as a concert promoter, and producer! I think you're blinded by your own ego! The 80's saw three major new art galleries, and one large theatre for performing arts, built in Houston! That is only one city.

The 1960's were full of the greatest artists of our decade.
This is a moronic statement!
Jim Morrison is still ahead of his time even today. He was no doubt a crazy man, however such as many great writers, he's misunderstood even to present day.If being a great blues singer, and poet is ahead of one's time, then so be it! Misunderstood? Crazy? Pfft...

The 1990's were an artistic explosion. Bands such as "Rage Against the Machine", "Pantera", "White Zombie", "Nine Inch Nails", "Phish", "Rusted Root", "Megadeath", "Korn", "Tool", "Pearl Jam" and "Sound Garden", to name just a few of the bands which became famous during the 1990's. I've seen all of the above live at least once as I've witnessed first hand quite variety of crowds. I find the 1960's and 1990's to be extensions of each other, neither of which were depressing by any standard.

Sound Garden was formed in 1984, and quite famous in the 80's! A littlte band called R.E.M. was killing on stages through the 80's. The largest tours ever conceived, and paved the way for other monster shows, were implemented in the 80's! I have toured and worked with most of the bands you list, some extensively! If by variety of crowds, you mean, upper middle class white kids, then yes, quite diverse indeed! The80's rocked, and ROCKED hard! JFA, The Tubes, Circle Jerks, Fear, Ministry, Revolting Cocks, Skinny Puppy, Red Hot Chili Peppers, FishBone, and the list could go on for days! Get a grip!
The 60's had a lot of depressing times. JFK, Vietnam, Nixon , the list, again, could go on for days! Pfft!
The 90's gave us "Boy bands"! Nuff said!

DT

[PhantomWolf]

The 60's had a lot of depressing times. JFK, Vietnam, Nixon, the list, again, could go on for days! Pfft!

Nixon wasn't depressing till the 70's. Of course the 60's were the golden age of manned space exploration. Watching my brand spanking new Apollo 17 DVDs I was a little depressed to hear Harrison "Jack" Schmitt issue the challenge to the next generation to add our footprints to theirs, knowing that it would not be the feet of my generation who would next walk on the moon, but those of our children.....

[Redtail]

To take a page from dogtown... (And put a little color in it :D)


The 1980's were the most depressing of any decade since the 1920's.


Your using the 20's may be an attempt on a "play on words" so to speak, but since you go on to speak artistically....

Um... Jazz? The Blues? Ragtime? The Harlem Renaissance? James Weldon Johnson? Any of these ring a bell?



Artistic expression actually skipped a decade altogether. I've never met anybody, and I was very popular especially in College, who felt as though the 1980's intellectually progressive in anyway.

Well The role of women in the work place increased greatly, ACT UP was formed, Child abuse awareness was greatly raised. (Granted as mom said "BOY YOU GOT TO MAKE TO THE PHONE FIRST!!!)

The 1960's were full of the greatest artists of our decade.


The 60's were full of the greatest artists of the 80's? Or did you mean 2001-10?

Jim Morrison is still ahead of his time even today. He was no doubt a crazy man, however such as many great writers, he's misunderstood even to present day.

He was high/drunk as hell, and couldn't carry a tune with handles

The 1990's were an artistic explosion. Bands such as "Rage Against the Machine", "Pantera", "White Zombie", "Nine Inch Nails", "Phish", "Rusted Root", "Megadeath", "Korn", "Tool", "Pearl Jam" and "Sound Garden", to name just a few of the bands which became famous during the 1990's.

Public Enemy, BDP, Parliament-Funkidellic. Not into that? Queen, U2, Bon Jovi. Still no? Prince, Micheal Jackson. (I know I know but some of y'all know damn well you had that zipper jacket)

I've seen all of the above live at least once as I've witnessed first hand quite variety of crowds. I find the 1960's and 1990's to be extensions of each other, neither of which were depressing by any standard.

Yeah the country was overjoyed by Vietnam and the shooting of JFK in the 60's and in the 90's the WTO was roundly welcomed by all, and reality TV will save the world.:rolleyes:

[PhantomWolf]

The 60's were full of the greatest artists of the 80's? Or did you mean 2001-10?

No, the 60's were full of the greatest artists of the 60's. ;)

[Dog Town]

To take a page from dogtown... (And put a little color in it :D)


Hey I mentioned Fish Bone! One of the monster tours I eluded to, was The Jackson Victory tour. It was Michaels show for all intensive purposes.:D
No I never owned the Jacket.:p

[Redtail]

Hey I mentioned Fish Bone! One of the monster tours I eluded to, was The Jackson Victory tour. It was Michaels show for all intensive purposes.:D
No I never owned the Jacket.:p

Holy Blue Monkeys! I read Fish Bone as Phish! (Dang fiancee what with her being from Vermont.:o)

[OldSchool]

I know this is off topic, but I had to reply to OS's nonsense!
All quotes are Old Schools!


I attended college 84-88, while starting my career, as a concert promoter, and producer! I think you're blinded by your own ego! The 80's saw three major new art galleries, and one large theatre for performing arts, built in Houston! That is only one city.


This is a moronic statement!
If being a great blues singer, and poet is ahead of one's time, then so be it! Misunderstood? Crazy? Pfft...



Sound Garden was formed in 1984, and quite famous in the 80's! A littlte band called R.E.M. was killing on stages through the 80's. The largest tours ever conceived, and paved the way for other monster shows, were implemented in the 80's! I have toured and worked with most of the bands you list, some extensively! If by variety of crowds, you mean, upper middle class white kids, then yes, quite diverse indeed! The80's rocked, and ROCKED hard! JFA, The Tubes, Circle Jerks, Fear, Ministry, Revolting Cocks, Skinny Puppy, Red Hot Chili Peppers, FishBone, and the list could go on for days! Get a grip!
The 60's had a lot of depressing times. JFK, Vietnam, Nixon , the list, again, could go on for days! Pfft!
The 90's gave us "Boy bands"! Nuff said!

DT

Actually I had meant too say Century.
The 1980's were boring. Once Again I was in Elementary and Junior High during the 1980's. Even listened too Rush Limbaugh during those days.
Ministry's a good group and Red Chili Peppers aren't bad. Beyond those two bands I'm not familiar with any of the others. REM was actually the first band I ever listened too followed by Nirvana.
Jim Morrison was crazy and he'd would have agreed with me too.

[CurtC]

The80's rocked, and ROCKED hard! JFA, The Tubes, Circle Jerks, Fear, Ministry, Revolting Cocks, Skinny Puppy, Red Hot Chili Peppers, FishBone, and the list could go on for days!
You could actually go on listing bands I've never heard of for days?

Though to be completely honest, I have heard of one of the bands in your list, largely from their appearance on The Simpsons.

[kookbreaker]

Bah, every decade had its mass of mediocrity as well as its shining moments.

I looked up the day I was born, in the 60's. Do you know what song was #1 that day? IT wasn't a tune by Jimmy Hendrix or some psychadelic Beatles tune, it was 'Windy'. As in 'Ev-ree-one-knows-its-Win-deeeee'. A bastion of bubblegum rock, that one, and it was hardly a rare moment if you look at the charts of those days.

In turn, the 60's also gave us some pioneers of rock. Some great efforts, and some massively overrated. But they were changing and developing music.

In the 70's, you had a tide of mediocrity in the charts. Such wonders as 'Afternoon Delight', 'The Pina Colada Song', 'Convoy' were staples of that era and showed that taste could be as bland as the color schemes from that decade.

But that same era also gave us Progressive Rock (which was truly experimental at times when it wasn't overly pretentious) Arena Rock (powerful, but eventually overplayed by 'Classic Rock' stations) and in the late part of the decade, Punk Rock. Punk showed that music could have some real anger behind (not just angry lyrics, but angry singing) it and still have good qualities.

The Eighties were a little odd. They started off with remnants of the 70's but then as MTV took over talent counted less than appearance. It was a decade where Eddie Murphy and Don Johnson made the charts with truly forgettable songs. Here was a moment where style was far more important than substance.

But in the same decade, you had the inventive and clever New Wave movement that played on MTV themes while still being at least partially decent. Also, at the same time Eddie and Donny were on rapid rotation on MTV the beginnings of a serious rock enema were forming with early grunge and 'alt' bands. One should remember that the 80's produced the Pixies, Mission of Burma (started in 1979, however), and load of other good music. The problem was that this music wasn't placed in front of you on MTV, you had to look for it.

The 90's started with the very influencial and mostly decent grunge music. But as it fell by the wayside Boy Bands and other dreck (Spice Girls anyone?) rose up in place. By the time the 90's ended there were a million subgenres of music. Anyone want to go to that Shoegazer/Goth/Rave/Trance club?

With music now available everywhere, and with technology allowing you to sample it at bit before buying, if you cannot find music you like you are doing something wrong.

Me? My the last two CDs I bought won the game of 'Stump iTunes'. Says something about me....and it may not be good!:boxedin:

[SpaceMonkeyZero]

"Pantera" - Formed in 1981
http://www.rockdetector.com/officialbio,6710.sm
"Nine Inch Nails" Funny how I had bought Pretty Hate Machine in 1989, and his influences came from 70s and 80s, and not 60s music.
"Phish" Oh God. Crappy Grateful Dead Wannabes.
"Rusted Root" See Phish
"Megadeath" Gee, ALSO formed in the 80s with their best stuff being released pre-1990. Dave Mustaine was a part of Metallica. Hardly a 90s band considering their best stuff was pre-1990.
"Tool" - I love the song Sober... But the rest sounds like crap.
Rage Against the Machine. Figures you'd be a RATM fan. Yes musically they were excellent... Lyrically they were idiots. Especially Zach. I bet you have a love affair with your Che Guevera. Ask a REAL CUBAN what they think of Che. My buddy Pedro used to beat the crap out of losers like you in the 90s for wearing Che t-shirts.

[SpaceMonkeyZero]

Old School grew up in Sacramento.

Figures... Public schools are failing kids left and right in California these days.

http://www.morganquitno.com/edrank06.htm

Look at that... ranked 47th... out of 50.

[dudalb]

Old School grew up in Sacramento.

Figures... Public schools are failing kids left and right in California these days.

http://www.morganquitno.com/edrank06.htm

Look at that... ranked 47th... out of 50.

God,Old School makes me ashamed to live in Sacramento.