The Christian Eucharist's Gruesome Origins in Canibalism

[crocodile deathroll]

"This is my body this is my blood, take this in memory of me" according to church liturgy and is said to be invented by its founder Jesus Christ. But this was really grounded in far more gruesome witchdoctor rituals who had taken those words far more literally. They would sacrifice there own children in the practice similar to today's African "muti killings", with muti they drink their blood and share it around, because of the elleged healing forces.
Cannibalism a Religious Experience (http://www.truthbeknown.com/cannibal.htm)

This bizarre and revolting ritual was first watered down the sacrifice of lambs, which is also mentioned the church liturgy("behold lamb of God who taketh away the sins of the world"), then that was abolished altogether to the doctrine of "real presence" the belief they have actually transubstanted the bread and wine into the body of Jesus Christ. The tradition was refusing to let go of its cannibalism past.

Another recent case of ritual sacrifice (http://www.religionnewsblog.com/archives/00003898.html)

[Yahweh]

Kids, if you plan to conduct your ritual sacrifice, please sacrifice responsibly.

[zakur]

Tastes like chicken.

[crocodile deathroll]

How would a Xtian feel if he travelled back in time to scene Christ's' Last Supper and Christ was sacrificing his own baby. And said "this is my own flesh and blood, eat his body and drink his blood in memory of me"?

Here is the opening verse to a rather creepy hymm.
Sons of God
Sons of God hear his holy word
Gather round the table of the Lord
Eat his body, drink his blood
And will sing a song of love
Allelu (3) alleluia.

[reprise]

My favourite hymn contained this stanza :

And now, O Father, mindful of the love

that bought us once for all, on Calvary's tree,

and having with us him that pleads above,

we here present, we here spread forth to thee,

that only offering perfect in thine eyes,

the one true, pure, immortal sacrifice.

[Cleopatra]

Originally posted by crocodile deathroll
"This is my body this is my blood, take this in memory of me" according to church liturgy and is said to be invented by its founder Jesus Christ. But this was really grounded in far more gruesome witchdoctor rituals who had taken those words far more literally. They would sacrifice there own children in the practice similar to today's African "muti killings", with muti they drink their blood and share it around, because of the elleged healing forces.
Cannibalism a Religious Experience (http://www.truthbeknown.com/cannibal.htm)

This bizarre and revolting ritual was first watered down the sacrifice of lambs, which is also mentioned the church liturgy("behold lamb of God who taketh away the sins of the world"), then that was abolished altogether to the doctrine of "real presence" the belief they have actually transubstanted the bread and wine into the body of Jesus Christ. The tradition was refusing to let go of its cannibalism past.

Another recent case of ritual sacrifice (http://www.religionnewsblog.com/archives/00003898.html)


Do you have any idea about the nature of cannibalism? Do you think that people performed cannibalism because they were hungry or because they were bloodthirsty murderers?

[crocodile deathroll]

Originally posted by Cleopatra



Do you have any idea about the nature of cannibalism? Do you think that people performed cannibalism because they were hungry or because they were bloodthirsty murderers?

Usually neither, unless your plane crashed in the Andies or something. It was usually due to either religious superstition or primitive medicine, like muti practitioners believed the flesh of a sacrificed child was the most powerful medicine.
Not many would fit into the blood thirsty murderers category like Jeffrey Dahmer.
Cannibalistic rituals existed in Nigeria and South Africa and as far as New Guinea and Australia, so it was very widespread and the Eucharist was more than just metaphorical at one time

[crocodile deathroll]

Originally posted by reprise
My favourite hymn contained this stanza :

And now, O Father, mindful of the love

that bought us once for all, on Calvary's tree,

and having with us him that pleads above,

we here present, we here spread forth to thee,

that only offering perfect in thine eyes,

the one true, pure, immortal sacrifice.

Christians often speak of their god sacrificing his only son to save them. That would be the mindset of early Xtians felt it was quite acceptable people to sacrifice their sons in the name of religious superstitions of the day.

[arcticpenguin]

Originally posted by Cleopatra

Do you have any idea about the nature of cannibalism? Do you think that people performed cannibalism because they were hungry or because they were bloodthirsty murderers?
Cannibalism involves eating other members of your own species. We could, for the sake of the current discussion, restrict that to the human species. The details may vary from case to case, but that is the nature of human cannibalism: people eating people.

[Cleopatra]

Originally posted by crocodile deathroll


Usually neither, unless your plane crashed in the Andies or something. It was usually due to either religious superstition or primitive medicine, like muti practitioners believed the flesh of a sacrificed child was the most powerful medicine.
Not many would fit into the blood thirsty murderers category like Jeffrey Dahmer.
Cannibalistic rituals existed in Nigeria and South Africa and as far as New Guinea and Australia, so it was very widespread and the Eucharist was more than just metaphorical at one time

Cannibalism in many cases and in many civilizations is a religious practice indeed that intended to bring human in contact with the deity throught the victim that supposed to embody some of the identities of the deity at the time of the sacrifice but it wasn't the only way. That means that cannibalism wasn't the only way to commit theophagia.

In fact omophagia was the most common way and we find extended references to omophagia in the Bible , cannibalism is a rather marginal practice that describes a specific ritual that might have things in common with omophagia but it describes specifically a different practice.

So, the accurate way to refer to Eucharist in terms of social anthropology is theophagia and not cannibalism.

unless your plane crashed in the Andies or something

Oh! I thought that Americans had better examples than that :)

The Donner Party (http://members.aol.com/DanMRosen/donner/)

[Nucular]

Originally posted by crocodile deathroll


Christians often speak of their god sacrificing his only son to save them. That would be the mindset of early Xtians felt it was quite acceptable people to sacrifice their sons in the name of religious superstitions of the day. Oh God said to Abraham, Kill me your son
Abe says Maaan you must be puttin' me on
God says No
Abe says What
God says You can do what you want Abe but
The next time you see me comin' you better run

Abe says Where you want this killin' done
God says out on Highway 61

Dylan, Highway 61, 1965

My kind of hymn.

[crocodile deathroll]

Originally posted by Nucular
Oh God said to Abraham, Kill me your son
Abe says Maaan you must be puttin' me on
God says No
Abe says What
God says You can do what you want Abe but
The next time you see me comin' you better run

Abe says Where you want this killin' done
God says out on Highway 61

Dylan, Highway 61, 1965

My kind of hymn.

I am the bread of life

I am the bread of life
He who comes to me shall not hunger
He who believes in me shall not thirst
No one can come to me
Unless the father beckons
And I will raise you up(3)
On the last day.
The bread that I will give
Is my flesh for the life of the world
And if you eat of this bread
You shall live forever(2)
Unless you eat
Of the flesh of the Son of Man
And drink of his blood,
And drink of his blood,
You shall not have life within you.
I am the resurrection, I am the life
If you believe in me
Even though you die
You shall live forever.
Yes, lord I believe
That you are the Christ
The son of God
Who has come into the world.

Another hymm with cannibalistic references