Why was Shane Warne taking a diuretic?

[edthedoc]

He took a pill given to him by his mother which contained a well-known banned substance which is used to treat conditions such as heart failure, oedema and fluid retention in premenstrual syndrome.

As far as I know it is a completely crap way of treating excess weight, which seems to be his reason for taking it.

Either he is extremely stupid, extremely desperate or both.

From a medical point of view, what do you think?

[arSenic]

I know that in sports with weightclasses the practice was(is?) very common. It's important to reach the optimal muscle/non-muscle ratio while staying just in your weight class. I've once read a biography of one of our country's judokas who said she had to diet and dehydrate herself to an almost critical state before contests to just fit inside her weight class.

However, as a permanent way of losing weight it's almost useless (unless you're really retaining water, as people with heart-failure or lungdiseases do, which is very dangerous), because what comes out, must come in again, and a continuous state of dehydration is fairly unpleasant (as opposed to taking a healthy diet for a few months).

[spoonhandler]

I believe the suggestion is that if he was taking steroids to speed up his recovery from the dislocated shoulder injury, he would then use the diuretic to help flush traces of the steroid out of his system prior to his comeback match. It is possible the drug testers, being clued up to this practice, selected Warne for a random test following the match. That the diuretic showed up instead is possibly due to bad timing.

His argument that he did not take steroids but did take one of his mother's 'fluid tablets' perscribed to her for high blood pressure control, is flimsy at best. He insists he didn't take it as a masking agent and that he wasn't using it to control his weight or appearance. So why did he take it?

He's in deep poo I think and his track record in credibility is not good.

[a_unique_person]

why do they always come up with the most pathetic story about why they took it?

[shemp]

Who the f*ck is Shane Warne?

[DogB]

Originally posted by shemp
Who the f*ck is Shane Warne?

The greatest spin bowler in history.

Also a great example of the fact that you don't need to be smart to play cricket.

[shemp]

Originally posted by DogB


The greatest spin bowler in history.

Also a great example of the fact that you don't need to be smart to play cricket.

Is that like a "spin doctor"?

Cricket is just a fruity version of baseball.

[DogB]

Originally posted by shemp


Is that like a "spin doctor"?

Cricket is just a fruity version of baseball.


Baseball is cricket for those of us with short attention spans

:)

[Jon_in_london]

Originally posted by shemp


Is that like a "spin doctor"?

Cricket is just a fruity version of baseball.

Watch out. Im in a bad mood and anti-cricketism will not be tolerated.

He was taking them because hes fat. Hes fat because he drinks beer and eats pies. Hes actually a very nice guy.

[BillyJoe]

Just some facts about Shane Warne and cricket.....
(just so you know)

(1) Shane Warne is a really nice guy
(2) Shane Warne id the best spin bowler that ever lived
(3) Cricket is the best game in the world.

but, he is also stupid, stupid, stupid

Stupid, if he was taking diuretics for weight loss
Stupid, if he was taking diuretics to reduce swelling around his shoulder joint.
Stupid, if he was taking diuretics to hide use of steroids.

I hope somehow he is not lost to cricket.

[The Whether Man]

What I find baffling is that a supposedly professional sportsman put something into his body without knowing the effects. (Full benefit of doubt allocated here.) Something he got from his mother. What sports medical qualifications does she have?

[edthedoc]

Please let's stay away from the cricket is great/cricket is ***** debate and stick with the issue of why he took diuretics.

From a medical point of view I think he may have been using diuretics to keep his weight down. This is something he has an issue with but using diuretics for this is a completely false and ineffective (even dangerous) method. Also, using someone elses prescribed medicine is frankly unethical. In otherwords he's stupid.

If he was using diuretics to mask the use of steroids (which may explain his rather unusually rapid return to fitness) then he is even more stupid as he of all people should know both steroids (d'oh) and diuretics (d'oh d'oh) are banned substances in sport.

Also, didn't he think that officials would be likely to test him in view of his amazing recovery from a serious shoulder injury (I've heard medical experts express great doubt that he would recover and they said this before it was known he was using diuretics).

Is there any genuine innocent reason for his use of diuretics?

[The Don]

The only one I can think of is to reduce the amount of liquid accumulating in joints. Some old ladies have to do this so conceivably SW may have to have.

But taking one of yer mum's pills is just plain stupid unless it was prescribed by the team doctor and mum is just being used to cover tracks.

[BillyJoe]

Originally posted by edthedoc
Is there any genuine innocent reason for his use of diuretics? I thought he might have used it to reduce post-operative swelling around his shoulder joint on the advice of his mother.
(Such a nice guy isn't he - but stupid!)
But, no, he has ruled out that explanation....

Shane Warne has said that he didn't take the diuretic as part of his shoulder treatment That leaves.....

- weight loss
- premenstrual tension
- covering up the use of steroids

I guess that means his defence will be....
"Me mum gave them to me to help me lose weight"

****, I think he's done for.

[Jon_in_london]

Lets stop messing about. He was taking them to lose weight because hes fat. Is that so difficult to understand?

[BillyJoe]

Hey Jon, have you got me on ignore as well?.......

Originally posted by BillyJoe
I guess that means his defence will be....
"Me mum gave them to me to help me lose weight"

:D

[sadluxation]

Originally posted by shemp



Cricket is just a fruity version of baseball.

Baseball is a girls game in the UK. Only under 12's and girls play it.
They don't wear helmets either.

:p

[sadluxation]

Originally posted by Jon_in_london
Lets stop messing about. He was taking them to lose weight because hes fat. Is that so difficult to understand?

I doubt that, as diuretics remove water, not burn calories.
Every time he'd drink some fluids, he'd put the weight back on.

So we're left with:
1) Masking a banned substance.
2) Stupid git.

[Jon_in_london]

Im not saying he took them to catually permanently lose weight to improve his fitness- just temporary to look cool on the pitch.

So I guess stoopid fits the bill :p

[spoonhandler]

I completely agree that Warne is an exceptionally talented player, but why are so many posts here convinced he's a nice guy?

BTW Jon: he has publicly denied taking diuretics to lose weight even though this might have allowed the authorities to go easier on him. He's left himself without that particular excuse in the forthcoming proceedings.

We await the results of the B sample test...

[Jon_in_london]

Met him once- wont say where. The rest of the Aussie team were inside drinking mineral water and eating healthy, Warney was outside, round the corner, chugging beer, having a crafty smoke and generally shooting the ***** with joe public.

Guy like him would be welcome at any pissup.