"Falling Man" Documentary

[realitybites]

Not sure if this has already been mentioned in the forums or not, but the Discovery Times Channel (http://times.discovery.com/tv-schedules/special.html?paid=141.13740.25417.0.0) is airing a documentary called "Falling Man" on September 10th at 9pm EST.

More information on the program can be found here (http://www.cbc.ca/passionateeyemonday/fallingman/index.html).

[Digest]

personally i find it a little to invasive. Cannot these people and/or families get some peace?

[realitybites]

personally i find it a little to invasive. Cannot these people and/or families get some peace?

I can understand that line of thinking. But at the same time, I also feel that the story of the jumpers was one that was too quickly swept under the rug, and therefore too easy to put out of mind.

On a day of chaos and tragic loss, they put an individuality to the horror. Something I feel is easily forgotten six years down the road.

[Digest]

they put an individuality to the horror. Something I feel is easily forgotten six years down the road.

I agree with this part 110% America has forgotten to quickly the pain and despair of that day. However how i read the description is that they are going to try and find out the Idenity of this man in the picture - just that thought of the family or families makes this too personal for me.

Talk about the jumoers - no problem - interview the family on how they now know that was daddy plummeting to his death out of despiration/acceptance/fear/saddnes is just over the line.

Sometimes i feel both sides take the propaganda war to far.

again totally my opinon.

[~enigma~]

Not sure if this has already been mentioned in the forums or not, but the Discovery Times Channel (http://times.discovery.com/tv-schedules/special.html?paid=141.13740.25417.0.0) is airing a documentary called "Falling Man" on September 10th at 9pm EST.

More information on the program can be found here (http://www.cbc.ca/passionateeyemonday/fallingman/index.html).
Essentially the media "blacked out" voluntarily all mention and never published this picture again after they published a picture and misidentified it as Norberto Hernandez. On a personal level, I don't exactly agree with showing this documentary more-so that they intentionally chose the airing to be on 9/10. I can tell you that this is one TV show I have no desire to see.

[BigAl]

I agree with this part 110% America has forgotten to quickly the pain and despair of that day.

I live in Staten Island, NY, where lots of NY firemen and police live. We still see "In memory of somebody or some firehouse" decals in the rear windows of shiny new cars. OTOH, in the big July 4th parade, there is essentially no 9//11 visibility which I take to mean that we want to deal with our own loss in private. Even the patriotic speeches by elected officials pass on the 9/11 stuff.

It's too close. Someone on stage could burst out in tears.

[jhunter1163]

I agree with this part 110% America has forgotten to quickly the pain and despair of that day. However how i read the description is that they are going to try and find out the Idenity of this man in the picture - just that thought of the family or families makes this too personal for me.

Talk about the jumoers - no problem - interview the family on how they now know that was daddy plummeting to his death out of despiration/acceptance/fear/saddnes is just over the line.

Sometimes i feel both sides take the propaganda war to far.

again totally my opinon.

I agree. It's bad enough to see that photo again, knowing that it's your husband/father/brother in the last few seconds of his life; it's terribly intrusive to be asked "how did you feel when you found out?"

[Alt+F4]

On a day of chaos and tragic loss, they put an individuality to the horror. Something I feel is easily forgotten six years down the road.

No, not in New York City.

[realitybites]

No, not in New York City.

Agreed. Especially for those in the city who lived through that day, who witnessed these events first-hand.

But for the rest of the country, the phrase "9/11" seems to have become just that.... To some extent, that is to be expected with the passage of time. Is that a good thing? At what point in time is it appropriate to move on? Does that point in time even exist?

Obviously this is probably the most emotional subject of that day. People have strong feelings on whether or not it's necessary. And I really don't think any one opinion is wrong. Each person will deal with it (or won't) in their own way.

I'm sure there are family members who don't want to know if their friend or loved one jumped. I'm sure that there are others who do. Whether it's necessary to identify the man, I'm not so sure. But I can see why some people would want to know, and others would not.

[SezMe]

I've watched this video and actually found it to be inspiring. For me, it came across as a tribute to the person and family and an excellent reminder that 911 is really the amalgamation of thousands of individual stories that are worth telling.

[Retrograde]

I'm of several minds about this. Fear of falling is deeply ingrained in me, and the thought of being in a situation so bad that jumping to certain death is preferable gives me nightmares. I will not be watching.

On the other hand, I think as a population we should not be allowed to forget that dozens, if not hundreds, of people felt compelled to this. I especially think that conspiracy theorists, especially those who maintain that there were no fires, should watch this and explain these peoples' actions in light of their so-called theories (I dare them to come up with something dismissive, like "well, maybe the wait for the elevators was too long") . For that reason, I deplore the collective media decision to erase the jumpers from collective memory: it not only diminishes their suffering but downplays the magnitude of the horror in the towers.

[fuelair]

Agreed. Especially for those in the city who lived through that day, who witnessed these events first-hand.

But for the rest of the country, the phrase "9/11" seems to have become just that.... To some extent, that is to be expected with the passage of time. Is that a good thing? At what point in time is it appropriate to move on? Does that point in time even exist?

Obviously this is probably the most emotional subject of that day. People have strong feelings on whether or not it's necessary. And I really don't think any one opinion is wrong. Each person will deal with it (or won't) in their own way.

I'm sure there are family members who don't want to know if their friend or loved one jumped. I'm sure that there are others who do. Whether it's necessary to identify the man, I'm not so sure. But I can see why some people would want to know, and others would not.
Hope not - and do not think so. I suspect it will be for most of us the equivalent of the day Kennedy was shot - we will always remember what we were doing when the news came to us - and most of the rest of that day.

[lionking]

I've watched this video and actually found it to be inspiring. For me, it came across as a tribute to the person and family and an excellent reminder that 911 is really the amalgamation of thousands of individual stories that are worth telling.
Agree 100%. Please watch this documentary and do not make judgements on it's title alone.

[LashL]

Agree 100%. Please watch this documentary and do not make judgements on it's title alone.

I also agree. The piece appears to be done for all the right reasons, and appears to have been very sensitively done.

[lkhllywd]

I also agree. The piece appears to be done for all the right reasons, and appears to have been very sensitively done.

Likewise.

This is a BBC production that was done a couple of years back. It's in no way sensationalistic.

[Rolfe]

Here is the thread discussing this documentary (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=53788) when it first aired in March 2006. I believe it was Channel 4. I still have a video of it, I think.

Rolfe.

[funk de fino]

Our friend Malcolm Kirkman actually linked a video to me in a post of a man trying to climb out and down the side of the tower, he falls to his death. He actually accused me of covering up for the killers of this man and said he would see that I faced justice for it

He never recieved a warning, yet I recieved a warning for my reply to it

[Corsair 115]

Here is the thread discussing this documentary (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=53788) when it first aired in March 2006. I believe it was Channel 4. I still have a video of it, I think.It aired in Canada also, on either CBC or CBC Newsworld (I can't recall which; it might have been both).

[Beerina]

If your announcer speaks slowly, and with enough gravity, you can do anything in the pursuit of a buck, or at least a name for yourself, so you can pursue bucks later.

[tacodaemon]

Here is the thread discussing this documentary (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=53788) when it first aired in March 2006. I believe it was Channel 4. I still have a video of it, I think.


It's also available in its entirety (assuming 71 minutes is the whole thing) as a single video on YouTube still...

[four elevener]

Out of all the images that emerged from 9/11...the planes, the crash, the collapse, the aftermath...none of them bothered me as much as the images of people falling to their deaths. It wasn't even close. I think I'll be skipping this special as well.