"boxcutters Hahahahaha" Cit Edition

[Bobert]

I came across this gem by CIT Scott Ranke and felt it deserved its own thread
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread286140/pg10#pid3274229
Pleading to emotion straw man arguments that have NOTHING to do with the north side claim.

Why were these supposedly the only 2 calls from flight 77 when there were so many from flight 93?


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At 9:12, Renee May called her mother, Nancy May, in Las Vegas. She said
her flight was being hijacked by six individuals who had moved them to the
rear of the plane.

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Show me the transcript of Renee May's conversation with her mother.

Did she really count the exact number of hijackers and report this relatively insignificant fact in her known last words to her mother?

As far as Barbara Olson goes; give me a break!

A wife of a Bush cronie and published conservative pundit??

How conveeeeeenient!

The utter ABSURDITY of the Barbara Olson coincidence is fully outlined in this article. (http://www.vialls.com/lies911/lies.htm)

[edit on 15-6-2007 by Craig Ranke CIT]


Excuse my while I go vomit.

[Slayhamlet]

I'm getting real sick of these CIT creeps throwing accusations around. I hope one of the accused, in particular Lloyd England, sues them for libel.

[Good Lt]

As far as Barbara Olson goes; give me a break!

A wife of a Bush cronie and published conservative pundit??

:eye-poppi

Yeah. She was just there, watching it unfold, as a victim and eyewitness. What the hell did she know? She like BOOSH.

She has a different political outlook than I do. She must be a lying and paid disinfo agent in the great conspiracy of our time.

It's stuff like this that discredits these dolts more than anything. Repulsive indeed.

[Bobert]

That was from page ten of that thread.
I have a feeling that if you view the proceeding 9 pages you are bound to find more filth from Ranke.
I scrolled down past what I quoted and found more filth.
sigh.... so much more to say but then I would be banned so I will leave it at that.

[Cl1mh4224rd]

I'm getting real sick of these CIT creeps throwing accusations around. I hope one of the accused, in particular Lloyd England, sues them for libel.


I hope for a lot more things to happen to them. They've earned whatever abuse comes their way, but that's all I'll say about it.

[1337m4n]

Oh God, another two people who were "in on it"?

But wait...I thought that only the "higher ups" would have to know about the plot...

The fact that this woman decided to mention the number of hijackers is proof that the hijacking never happened?

When are CIT going to realize how farfetched their little plot has become?

[Jonnyclueless]

It's funny. It's impossible that terrorists would go on a suicide mission in hopes of pleasing God and gaining eternal peace, but it's not impossible for someone with Bush connections to go on a suicide mission to help someone make some extra money.

[Normal Dude]

I hope for a lot more things to happen to them. They've earned whatever abuse comes their way, but that's all I'll say about it.

Agreed.

[Bobert]

Wow sooooo many people in on this!
Thank God we have the CIT to point this out!

[MarkyX]

Much like Holocaust Deniers, 9/11 Deniers tend to have a political motivation when it comes to their "investigations"

Holocaust Deniers tend to have a thing against Jews and most of them think Hitler wasn't that bad of a guy.

9/11 Deniers tend to have a thing against conservatives and have an anarchist or extreme left-wing mindset. I don't see the victim's political affiliation has anything to do with what happened, but CIT, Lyte, Alex, and Dylan, and many others in the movement seem to believe so.

[twinstead]

All I can say is I'll bet the senior Al Queda staff get a kick out of this stuff.

[Drudgewire]

I hope for a lot more things to happen to them. They've earned whatever abuse comes their way, but that's all I'll say about it.
I've come to the conclusion that the reason most people buy into this garbage is they can't grasp the concept of normal people. Since they never assimilated into normal society, they can't grasp that in the real world people aren't as fundamentally dishonest and self-serving as they are.

[PhantomWolf]

All I can say is I'll bet the senior Al Queda Qaeda staff get a kick out of this stuff.

I don't know. Would it be more amusing to them to have their greatest coup attributed to their enemy and the people in the US think that are a CIA front and a bunch of hopers who could organise a party in a brewery, or would it be irritating?

[CptColumbo]

I was watching a doc on Air Disasters last night on the National Geographic Channel. In it they showed the FO escaping from the cockpit, after the crash, using a "crash axe." This was a smaller turbo prop plane, but are these axes still widely used? If so, why would JDX use a fire extinguisher, when he's got an axe, to attack his hypothetical terrorists?

[defaultdotxbe]

I was watching a doc on Air Disasters last night on the National Geographic Channel. In it they showed the FO escaping from the cockpit, after the crash, using a "crash axe." This was a smaller turbo prop plane, but are these axes still widely used? If so, why would JDX use a fire extinguisher, when he's got an axe, to attack his hypothetical terrorists?
he did suggest using a crash axe to fight them off, when he was asked where the axe was (and answered, 6 feet behind the strapped-in pilot) he said equipment locations were classified and editted the post to remove the information (i think it was apathoid who pointed it out)

[CptColumbo]

he did suggest using a crash axe to fight them off, when he was asked where the axe was (and answered, 6 feet behind the strapped-in pilot) he said equipment locations were classified and editted the post to remove the information (i think it was apathoid who pointed it out)
Thanks, I didn't want to search for his dispicable ramblings. Are they still used today?

[dudalb]

Much like Holocaust Deniers, 9/11 Deniers tend to have a political motivation when it comes to their "investigations"

Holocaust Deniers tend to have a thing against Jews and most of them think Hitler wasn't that bad of a guy.

9/11 Deniers tend to have a thing against conservatives and have an anarchist or extreme left-wing mindset. I don't see the victim's political affiliation has anything to do with what happened, but CIT, Lyte, Alex, and Dylan, and many others in the movement seem to believe so.

I don't deny what you say has truth in it,but there are also a lot of nutcase right wingers in the Truth Movement,as the seeing of Ron Paul as The Savior by a lot of the Truth movement shows.
I think that a general hatred of anybody in a position of authority is the real motivation behind the hardcore CTers. A lot of the ones who have been blinded by their hatred of the Bush Administration (and I no fan of Dubya the Dumb) will probably quit if the Dems take the White house next year,but there will be a hardcore of CTers who will simply declare that the Democrats were in on it also,and continue as usual.

[EventHorizon]

I don't know. Would it be more amusing to them to have their greatest coup attributed to their enemy and the people in the US think that are a CIA front and a bunch of hopers who could organise a party in a brewery, or would it be irritating?

I kind of think they'd be irritated by all this conspiracy nonsense. It's a good thing very few people are stupid enough to believe it. If it was a majority, it might make the terrorists try something even worse. A sort of "now do you believe we hate you?" attack. Not that I'm saying we're immune from future attacks now, but I think it would be more likely if nobody believed the first attack was theirs.

I still want to know how it's possible to believe in these conspiracy theories. It takes a special kind of stupid to think 9/11 was a hoax.

[MarkyX]

I don't deny what you say has truth in it,but there are also a lot of nutcase right wingers in the Truth Movement,as the seeing of Ron Paul as The Savior by a lot of the Truth movement shows.


I'm ain't refusing that bit either. I said most members tend to be left-wing. I'll admit, the Ron Paul argument is a good one though.

[Drudgewire]

It is, although Ron Paul is pretty much considered a pariah within the Republican party.

[Dr Harry Rein]

I hope for a lot more things to happen to them. They've earned whatever abuse comes their way, but that's all I'll say about it.

I don't believe in hell, but if I did, I hope that there is a special place in it for people like this. Like, say, they are perpetually stuck on an airliner that has been hijacked by terrorists, about to crash into a large building, and they are unable to call anyone to say goodbye.:yikes:

[Dr Harry Rein]

Why were these supposedly the only 2 calls from flight 77 when there were so many from flight 93?

Remember, that on flight 93, there were only 4 hijackers; on flight 77, as on the other flights, there were 5. Perhaps on flight 93, the hijackers could not do as good a job of preventing the passengers from using the phones, because they were undermanned.

Doesn't really matter, this fact does not mean anything. The fact that Renee May was able to convince her mother of her own identity is pretty strong evidence that the call was real. And if this call was real, why would the conspirators fake another call ?

[SpitfireIX]

I was watching a doc on Air Disasters last night on the National Geographic Channel. In it they showed the FO escaping from the cockpit, after the crash, using a "crash axe." This was a smaller turbo prop plane, but are these axes still widely used? If so, why would JDX use a fire extinguisher, when he's got an axe, to attack his hypothetical terrorists?



From the NTSB report (http://www.ntsb.gov/Publictn/1996/aar9606.pdf) (.pdf) on the crash of Atlantic Southeast Flight 529:


The captain and first officer were trapped in the cockpit by fire that had ignited on the cabin side of the cockpit door. When the first officer found it impossible to open his cockpit sliding window, he unsuccessfully attempted to chop a hole in the hardened Plexiglas side window using the airplane crash ax. It was apparently intended for use as a woodworking tool because it consisted of a blade and nail puller attached to a wooden handle. Given the resilient composition of the cockpit window material, it was difficult to make a hole in the window panel; however, if the ax had been equipped with a pry bar rather than a nail puller, the first officer might have been successful in wedging the pry bar between the window and the track or frame and prying or forcing the window open. Although regulations exist that require most passenger-carrying aircraft to be equipped with a crash ax, there is no FAA or other civil technical standard regarding the design and use of crash axes. This accident demonstrates the importance of an adequate crash ax design. [footnotes omitted][emphasis added]

[CptColumbo]

From the NTSB report (http://www.ntsb.gov/Publictn/1996/aar9606.pdf) (.pdf) on the crash of Atlantic Southeast Flight 529:

The show had a re-enactment and the axe was really just a small hatchet that eventually broke. Also the Captain had died on impact. So, I don't know if that's the same one.