PDA

View Full Version : Why is there no mention of 7 WTC in the 9-11 Commission Report?


RBG
27th August 2007, 10:54 PM
Or very little mention, none of it dwelling on its collapse. Yet, rightly so, the twin towers get the full treatment.

I'm reading reports where CT's are seeing this as significant. As though this is somehow evidence of cover up on that building.

Is the explanation that 7 WTC was not directly attacked and therefore was just one of a number of buildings with collateral damage - albeit in this case the entire building collapsed?

Still, one might expect all the damages sustained in the attack to at least be acknowledged by a commission charged with a supreme investigation.

RBG

R.Mackey
27th August 2007, 11:00 PM
WTC 7 wasn't hit by a plane. It's collapse was essentially accidental, and the terrorists didn't care about it at all. The Commission was not an engineering body, and they don't even say all that much about the Towers.

Similarly, the 9/11 Commission didn't discuss the fate of WTC 3, 4, 5, or 6, or any of the other buildings hit. It's simply out of scope.

This topic has been discussed at least a hundred times here.

Pardalis
27th August 2007, 11:00 PM
I think it's because the 9/11 Commission focused on the attacks, there was no reason to believe WTC 7 was part of the attack.

yodaluver28
27th August 2007, 11:03 PM
The 9/11 Commission didn't mention WTC7 because it was irrelevent to their investigation. Their "mission" was to analyze the inception and growth of Al Qaeda and to trace the origins of the 9/11 plot, how it was carried out, and how and why clues about it's planning were missed or misinterpreted. WTC7 wasn't a primary target in the attacks and like WTC3, WTC4, WTC5, WTC6, and a score of other buildings that were damaged or destroyed that day, it was merely collateral damage from the primary attack. Considering that and the fact that no one was killed in the collapse, the building's collapse is a relative non-issue except for engineers who need to study it in order to make future buildings safer.The Commission included discussion of the collapses of the Twin Towers because they were the primary target of the attack. But even at that, they left the scientific and engineering details to the NIST report.

A W Smith
27th August 2007, 11:05 PM
7 was collateral damage from the attack. it was not a target anymore than the lamp posts at the pentagon or the DB building across from wtc, or the financial center.

RBG
27th August 2007, 11:18 PM
Wow. Thanks for the fast response. That will do. Now off to fight misguided evil.

RBG

Arus808
27th August 2007, 11:52 PM
Anyone have a link to the NIST interim report. RBG, you could link to that.

I had it in my bookmarks, but Firefox choked on it.

LashL
27th August 2007, 11:56 PM
Meh. Deleted.

RBG
28th August 2007, 12:02 AM
Interesting you should be asking about NIST. I'm just into that now and have a great 9-11 FAQ from them.

http:
//wtc.nist.gov/pubs/factsheets/faqs_8_2006
.htm

Haven't searched this myself yet, but betting this leads to the actual report:
http:
//wtc.nist
.gov

(Sheesh: I just encountered that silly no URLs until 15 posts rule.)

RBG

Pardalis
28th August 2007, 12:03 AM
(Sheesh: I just encountered that silly no URLs until 15 posts rule.)
RBG

We can remedy that. ;)

What does RBG stand for?

Brainster
28th August 2007, 12:24 AM
Quick now, RBG, what other two buildings (excluding the towers) were completely destroyed on 9-11? What was unique about the construction of WTC-7?

R.Mackey
28th August 2007, 12:30 AM
Anyone have a link to the NIST interim report. RBG, you could link to that.

I had it in my bookmarks, but Firefox choked on it.

Here 'tis: NIST WTC 7 Prelim (http://wtc.nist.gov/pubs/WTC%20Part%20IIC%20-%20WTC%207%20Collapse%20Final.pdf)

RBG
28th August 2007, 11:19 AM
Red Blue Green?

RBG
28th August 2007, 11:24 AM
The Deutsche Bank Building
The Borough of Manhattan Community College's Fiterman Hall
?
WTC7: It was built over a power transformer station?

RBG

RBG
28th August 2007, 11:25 AM
Hey, 15 posts. You guys are amazing. :-)

RBG

Drudgewire
28th August 2007, 11:29 AM
Hey, 15 posts. You guys are amazing. :-)

:cool:

RBG
28th August 2007, 11:31 AM
Well, let's try out my newly acquired powers.

Kevin Ryan, a fired UL product tester, responded to NIST's FAQ

http://tinyurl.com/2nsmeh

Might there be a response to the response somewhere?

RBG

Pardalis
28th August 2007, 11:40 AM
Hey, 15 posts. You guys are amazing. :-)

RBG

Glad I could help. :)

Brainster
28th August 2007, 11:51 AM
The Deutsche Bank Building
The Borough of Manhattan Community College's Fiterman Hall
?
WTC7: It was built over a power transformer station?

RBG

Wrong on the first question; both those buildings were ruined but not destroyed on 9-11. The answer is WTC-3 (the Marriott Hotel) and St. Nick's Cathedral.

Basically correct on the second question; it's an electrical substation.

SpaceMonkeyZero
28th August 2007, 11:54 AM
Well, let's try out my newly acquired powers.

Kevin Ryan, a fired UL product tester, responded to NIST's FAQ

http://tinyurl.com/2nsmeh

Might there be a response to the response somewhere?

RBG

There was a thread about Ryan in the past 2 weeks. something about his court case being thrown out because it was baseless?

I'm sure there's talk in there about him
http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=90210&highlight=Kevin+Ryan

Drudgewire
28th August 2007, 12:08 PM
Hehehe, Kevin Ryan.

I'm hoping you're honestly trying to find the real answers RBG, because if so this thread is going to be a remarkable eye-opening and you're going to love it. Trust a reformed conspiracy nut.

If you've already made up your mind and are just looking for "close-minded debunker" answers we'll probably drive you batty. ;)

RBG
28th August 2007, 12:22 PM
Wrong on the first question; both those buildings were ruined but not destroyed on 9-11. The answer is WTC-3 (the Marriott Hotel) and St. Nick's Cathedral.

Basically correct on the second question; it's an electrical substation.

I was hoping I might have you on a technicality given that 9-11 caused these buildings to eventually be pulled down as a result, but I see your precise question gives me no room.

"...were completely destroyed on 9-11?"

Never-the-less, yours is a good piece of info to have back of mind when CTs make a big deal about 7 WTC and the twin towers supposed demolition collapse onto its own footprint.

As an aside, I've often wondered why any of these buildings would have supposedly needed to be secretly rigged with explosives. As if two fully-loaded jets flown full-speed into the twin towers wouldn't have been enough to attain the necessary ojective and effect.

RBG

NYCEMT86
28th August 2007, 12:27 PM
As an aside, I've often wondered why any of these buildings would have supposedly needed to be secretly rigged with explosives. As if two fully-loaded jets flown full-speed into the twin towers wouldn't have been enough to attain the necessary ojective and effect.

RBG



We ask ourselves that everyday when we debate or debunk conspiracy theorists.

SpaceMonkeyZero
28th August 2007, 12:33 PM
As an aside, I've often wondered why any of these buildings would have supposedly needed to be secretly rigged with explosives. As if two fully-loaded jets flown full-speed into the twin towers wouldn't have been enough to attain the necessary ojective and effect.

That Occam guy was on to something with his Razor.

Why does it have to be 200,000 people in on the biggest secret in American History from the Pres on down to FBI field agents and 1st Responders instead of 19 islamic fundamentalists funded by an exiled billionaire with a loose network and the advantage of a first strike?

And why do these nuts also tend to believe the Moon Landing was a hoax, and that there's 5 mysterious Jew Bankers and freemasons and satanic pedophiles running the world?

T.A.M.
28th August 2007, 12:33 PM
If you have read the commission report, then you are well aware from the first few pages, what their MANDATE was. Now that you know the mandate, assuming you read the report, then you know WTC7 is not important at all in terms of what the commission was tasked with.

TAM:)