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Digest
29th August 2007, 04:16 AM
Please look at this - especially the 9/11 victims section.

Do these people know they are being associated with the theory that the government is complicent in the 9/11 attacks?

snippett:
Many 9/11 survivors and many 9/11 victim family members have expressed significant criticism of the 9/11 Commission Report. Several even allege government complicity in the terrible acts of 9/11.

I dont disagree with the first sentence but the second I have issues with.
There is even people listed who were killed on that day (ie: Edna Cintron) as supporting this.
That alone SICKENS me.:mad:

LINK HERE:
http://www.patriotsquestion911.com/survivors.html

ref
29th August 2007, 04:22 AM
Many of those people don't even know they are listed on that kind of site. Many would not want to be there, if they knew how their names are being used.

Those people running that site cherry-pick statements, that make it seem like these individuals support conspiracy theories, and just cut and paste them to their site.

They even have Frank A. DeMartini listed there as an architect/engineer questioning the 9/11 commission report. How can he question the commission report? He died on 9/11. He was a construction manager of WTC, when it was built. He is listed on that site, because he once stated, that the towers would withstand airplane impacts.

Digest
29th August 2007, 04:24 AM
does this not strike you as just morally wrong? no matter what side of the fence you are on.

ref
29th August 2007, 04:25 AM
Of course it does. It's plain wrong.

uk_dave
29th August 2007, 04:29 AM
[truther fascist] Zeee ends justify zeee means [/truther fascist]

leftysergeant
29th August 2007, 04:30 AM
About the only people on that site with any credibility are just there to question whether or not the administration acted like they could pour gravel out of a boot, and most said not a chance.

That would be the military peoplel speaking on the subject of Able Danger.

Wonder how they feel about being listed on the same roster with Stubblebine the bubble brain.

T.A.M.
29th August 2007, 04:52 AM
Digest:

It depends on your definition of "Several" Bill Doyle, a family member of a victim, has gone full blown truther MIHOP from what I have read, so he fits into the second statement, as horrible as it seems. The Jersey Girls while not as MIHOP, might fit into the "Several" category listed in the second line as well.

TAM:)

Digest
29th August 2007, 05:29 AM
Digest:

It depends on your definition of "Several" Bill Doyle, a family member of a victim, has gone full blown truther MIHOP from what I have read, so he fits into the second statement, as horrible as it seems. The Jersey Girls while not as MIHOP, might fit into the "Several" category listed in the second line as well.

TAM:)


Yes I know some do support the CT - but asking for a new investigation or having questions about the commission report is NOT tantamount to saying "THE GOVERNMENT PERPETRATED 9/11"

and I dont care what anyone thinks -- using someone who was killed that day to further your cause - equates you to nothing better then a piece of ****

If i ever see my cousins name on a site like this I will bring down heaven to find out who thought that was a good idea.

The Doc
29th August 2007, 05:32 AM
and I dont care what anyone thinks -- using someone who was killed that day to further your cause - equates you to nothing better then a piece of ****


Well said, but I would have gone lower than a piece of [8]. Not even a piece of feces would do this kind of thing if it had the brain power to do so.

ref
29th August 2007, 05:48 AM
The piece of whatever, that created this BS is Alan Miller.

Drudgewire
29th August 2007, 05:52 AM
Par for the course with the movement we're talking about, unfortunately. :(

SpaceMonkeyZero
29th August 2007, 06:14 AM
does this not strike you as just morally wrong? no matter what side of the fence you are on.

Are you implying that truthers have a conscience to question their motives?

They are despicable. Plain and simple. They would trot around a dead 9/11 victim's body if they thought they could find a way to avoid grave robbing charges.

kookbreaker
29th August 2007, 06:51 AM
Many of those people don't even know they are listed on that kind of site. Many would not want to be there, if they knew how their names are being used.


Indeed. And since its a cherry-picked involuntary membership the troofers almost constantly refer to it as if it were some kind of vindication.

Skeptic: "...so you can see that there is no physical evidence of explosives being used, and that thermite is just plain impossible, furthermore..."

Troofer: patriotsqustion911!!!!! patriotsquestion911 OMFG! PWNED!!!!

~enigma~
29th August 2007, 07:36 AM
does this not strike you as just morally wrong? no matter what side of the fence you are on.
Yes it is reprhensible but it isn't a surprise.

Comsat Angel
29th August 2007, 08:42 AM
The piece of whatever, that created this BS is Alan Miller.

"Miller"? Wrong employment-derived surname. Should be "Muckraker". I take it he doesn't dare to actually use real peoples names, does he?

Unsecured Coins
29th August 2007, 08:45 AM
it wouldn't bother me so much if they said "look at this situation, and ask questions based off of this" instead of "Deceased Person X openly questions the official 9/11 account due to ..." whatever.

tacodaemon
29th August 2007, 10:45 AM
It just sickens me any time they start defaming Edna Cintron's memory by pretending that those photos of her, with her life having crashed down around her, are some kind of support for their kooky theories. In fact, some LCFer's mockery of those photos back in spring of '06 was what motivated Gravy to get so wholeheartedly involved in 9/11 CT debunking.

defaultdotxbe
29th August 2007, 11:01 AM
I dont disagree with the first sentence but the second I have issues with.
There is even people listed who were killed on that day (ie: Edna Cintron) as supporting this.
That alone SICKENS me.:mad:

LINK HERE:
http://www.patriotsquestion911.com/survivors.html
i seem to recall a truther theory about edna cintron, the reason she was standingnear the edge of th ebuilding wasnt because she was hoping to be rescued, or because of the fires, she was there waving because she was trying to tell people of the bombs, therefore she supports the truth movement

and yes, its sickening

T.A.M.
29th August 2007, 01:02 PM
Yes I know some do support the CT - but asking for a new investigation or having questions about the commission report is NOT tantamount to saying "THE GOVERNMENT PERPETRATED 9/11"

and I dont care what anyone thinks -- using someone who was killed that day to further your cause - equates you to nothing better then a piece of ****

If i ever see my cousins name on a site like this I will bring down heaven to find out who thought that was a good idea.

I agree it is not tantamount to accusation, but to believe that WTC7 was brought down by CD, and WTC1/2 as well, and to say no plane hit the pentagon, is getting damn close.

The rest of your comments, I am totally in support of, especially your second paragraph.

TAM:)