September 2007 Stundie Nominations

[Mobyseven]

Well, good golly gosh, it's 'that' time of the month again, and so time for the rules and whatnot.

I'm moving around a bit this month, just so you know. Got to go to Sydney until mid-October ("What was that mum? 'Lectures'? Never heard of 'em!"), and while I'll have the interwebs I probably won't be on as often. I'll still be around though, so you'd better all adhere to dem rules...

Nominations from the JREF forums are allowing, but will not be as highly regarded as nominations from other sources, be they on or off the interwebs. The finalists will contain a maximum of 25% nominations from the JREF forums; 75-100% must be from nominations external to the JREF forums.
Nominations should always be accompanied by a link or a screenshot, to confirm that the quote exists and has not been taken out of context. (It would be wise to always have a backup screenshot, as truth movement forums are well known for deleting entire threads.)
For a nomination to be eligible, it must have a real and obvious link to conspiracy theories, but not exclusively 9/11 conspiracy theories.
Stundie nominations should 'stand alone'. Do not over-embellish introductions, but do provide comments. Do not use any blatant ad hominem attacks.
Please post the nomination under the real screenname of the nominee, and not under a slightly altered name (e.g. Killclown, Roxpup, Do-over).
The best Stundie nominations are short and sweet. As a guideline, no more than 6 lines should be included from the post. If you are giving context, highlight the actual nomination.
Entire videos or audio clips are not eligible for nomination. Specific statements or claims from videos or audio clips are eligible for nomination.
No long rants. Cut them down to the funniest bit.
No speeling mistikes or tie-pose. Everybody makes a mistake once in a while!

Remember that the truther mantra applies here - if you aren't sure about something, "Ask questions, demand answers."

So get cracking with those nominations, and say 'Hi!' to your dad from me this Sunday!

Mobyseven

Democratically Elected Tyrant

[Sword_Of_Truth]

OldSchool, for having the "higest" literacy in his class.

Took an entrance exam yesterday for a CSS "Computer Systems Specialist" at a private Technical College. On the entrance exam I recieved 90 out of 100 on every test. My literacy score was the higest with 99 out of 100. The written part of the test I recieved the highest possible grade 5 out of 5. So when push comes to shove and i'm in an acedemic setting the scores speak for themselves.

http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p=2924714&postcount=145

[Civilized Worm]

That's a perfect example of a typo that should be eligable.

[Drudgewire]

He's in rare form today. In his next comment, he invents a brand new meaning of "secret."

Any intelligence should have to report to a secret court. A secret court in which the judge is voted into his position. This judges position should be treated the same as a presidential election. All secret agencies should have to report to this court full disclosure to ensure our agencies are operating within Federal and International Law.

E: BTW that's HIS bolding. :p

[jhunter1163]

The ball is now in our court, so let us run with it.

What game are they playing?

http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_mac_mcki_070708_red_alert_3a_has_santo.htm

[Elizabeth I]

What game are they playing?

http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_mac_mcki_070708_red_alert_3a_has_santo.htm

Calvinball.

[Gravy]

OldSchool, for having the "higest" literacy in his class.
http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p=2924714&postcount=145And structure errors in sentences 1, 3, and 4. I'd hate to see the work of the person who scored loughest.

[Gravy]

He's in rare form today. In his next comment, he invents a brand new meaning of "secret."
E: BTW that's HIS bolding. :pAh, but if all the names are blanked out on the ballots....

100,000 intelligence agents having to clear their activities through a single judge? Makes sense to me.

[Gravy]

What game are they playing?
http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_mac_mcki_070708_red_alert_3a_has_santo.htm
In team handball a player can run three steps while holding the ball.

[Horatius]

OldSchool, for having the "higest" literacy in his class.

On the entrance exam I recieved 90 out of 100 on every test. My literacy score was the higest with 99 out of 100.


He got 90 out of 100 on every test, except for the one where he got 99 out of 100? I guess one of those wasn't a math test......


Is there a prize for the most Stundies in one nomination?

[rudar]

In team handball a player can run three steps while holding the ball.

True, but in team handball, there isn't an ``our'' court and a ``their'' court, the way there would be in tennis or volleyball or some other game involving a net separating the sides of the court...

[8den]

Phil Jayden over at Loose change, cracks the whole conspiracy wide open

All of America's top 500 corporations are operated by the elite. Which is why you find so many of their fancy stupid NWO symbols in their logos and such. The council of 500, which we know as the Fortune 500 companies, are staffed by the council of 33, which in turn is ruled by the top Mason in the World, Prince Phillip, the husband of the Queen.

You fools you've got it all wrong with your lizard men Phil the Greek is the leader of them all! (http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=14914)

[Mobyseven]

That's a perfect example of a typo that should be eligable.

Yep. Certainly is - I've always made exceptions for noms that are absolutely dripping with irony, though this is the first one that's passed the irony-dripping test.

[jsfisher]

I nominate the followings OldSchool excerpt wherein he comments on his own intelligence:
The institution of intelligence is the true defintition of paranoia. I have no paranoia at all.

[Hapexamendios]

Originally posted by StreetCornerPhilosopher on abovetopsecret.com

Troy, you should know the answer to that. It is no. Why dislike English people in general, they are enslaved by the same government. It's not Tom, Dick, Harry and Jane's fault. It's the ones in the palace with a higher percentage of alien DNA.

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread299689/pg3

I always thought Charles' ears didn't correspond to those of any Earth mammal....

[Henry Crun]

Found this one on LCF.
bowtononebutone just doesn´t understand why the Naudet-brothers made a documentary about firefighters doing staff and whatever - just on the day of 911. Of course this can`t be coincidence.

What logical purpose was there to filming a fire crew, doing manhole/grating repair(or whatever in the world it was they were doing), on that particular day, at that particular time, at that particular location?

To have something to applaud themselves over? To have a record of witness to their first strike?

Are the Naudet brothers complicit? Are they part of it all?Hmmm...
He´s not really sure if they`re on to be fair...
Or so it seems.

Heck yeah, something's amiss here.

Burn in Hell, the lot of them!


Source: LCF, The Lounge, Naudet-Brother-Documentary-thread

[Cl1mh4224rd]

Found this one on LCF.
bowtononebutone just doesn´t understand why the Naudet-brothers made a documentary about firefighters doing staff and whatever - just on the day of 911. Of course this can`t be coincidence.

What logical purpose was there to filming a fire crew, doing manhole/grating repair(or whatever in the world it was they were doing), on that particular day, at that particular time, at that particular location?

To have something to applaud themselves over? To have a record of witness to their first strike?

Are the Naudet brothers complicit? Are they part of it all?

Hmmm...
He´s not really sure if they`re on to be fair...
Or so it seems.

Heck yeah, something's amiss here.

Burn in Hell, the lot of them!


Source: LCF, The Lounge, Naudet-Brother-Documentary-thread


Since you can't post links yet: http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=14935

[Civilized Worm]

We will win, or die. This numbers discussion is bootless.

http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=14889&view=findpost&p=14542254


Bootless?

[Elizabeth I]

Bootless?

Bootless:

boot·less – adjective: without result, gain, or advantage; unavailing; useless.

[Origin: bef. 1000; ME bot(e)les, OE bōtléas unpardonable.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/bootless

[Myriad]

Bootless?


Archaic.

"Doth not Brutus bootless kneel?" -- Shakespeare; Julius Ceasar, act 3 scene 1

Belike its use betokens fecklessness;
Akin to "useless," or "pointless," forsooth.

Respectfully,
Myriad

[Cl1mh4224rd]

Jon Gold finally answers the question, "[W]ho is going to be part of this 'independent investigation'?"

Sort of...

That's not for me to decide. I would imagine family members would be involved in some way.

[Crungy]

Posted by A-Train in the NORAD thread.

I don't believe it. I believe the messages were broadcast by the real hijackers, who were not Arabs, but broadcast them intentionally over the freq while trying to sound like Arabs-- for the purpose of framing Arabs for the hijackings.

Stupidity such as this is only dwells in mom and dad's basement.

[Cl1mh4224rd]

Posted by A-Train in the NORAD thread.

I don't believe it. I believe the messages were broadcast by the real hijackers, who were not Arabs, but broadcast them intentionally over the freq while trying to sound like Arabs-- for the purpose of framing Arabs for the hijackings.

Stupidity such as this is only dwells in mom and dad's basement.


Why didn't they just use the voice morphing technology they used to fake the passenger calls with? :rolleyes:

[Crungy]

Here's more comedy from A-Train's parents basement.

Here's what really happened: the hijackers-- the ones who took out the pilots-- looked and dressed like you and me. They may have had pilot credentials. They gained the trust of the pilots, then quickly took them out with shots to the head from a silencer-equipped gun. On UAL93, the hijacker was probably already in the jump seat when the warning was broadcast to bar the door.

[Horatius]

Here's a good tag-team Stundie. I do so hope he brings this up in class!

Andoo Inc. at LCF (http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=14977&view=findpost&p=14553523):


Yeah, I have an engineering professor who works for FEMA. Needless to say I'm very cautious to say anything especially when he brought up the towers last week in class and how the planes destroyed the fireproofing of the steel. It's a materials class and he is teaching it, so I can't really start like trying to defend anything without bringing up white flashes and explosives.

Followed up by smeagul75 (http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=14977&view=findpost&p=14553532):

question him calmly on exactly when the periodic table of elements was proven wrong......seeing as jet fuels burning point is nowhere near steels melting point...thats just junior high science....lol

[Civilized Worm]

Bootless:

boot·less – adjective: without result, gain, or advantage; unavailing; useless.

[Origin: bef. 1000; ME bot(e)les, OE bōtléas unpardonable.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/bootless


Really? Ah well, you learn something new everyday.

[ktesibios]

Bootless:

boot·less – adjective: without result, gain, or advantage; unavailing; useless.

[Origin: bef. 1000; ME bot(e)les, OE bōtléas unpardonable.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/bootless

The robbed that smiles steals something from the thief;
He robs himself that spends a bootless grief.

Othello, I.iii.208-209

[TjW]

Well, I'm surprised no one else has nominated CJOKUSAP yet.
Come on guys, and the very odd gal, don't ignore me, make me shut up. It shouldn't be too hard. I'm only an ignorant, semi-literate apologist for murderous, god-less Arabs.
The fact that it's on JREF makes it even funnier: I don't believe it's actually occurred to him yet that a group with a high percentage of atheists might not use "godless" as an insult.

[Dr Adequate]

What game are they playing? I think he's just trying to say that they should grasp the nettle by the horns and strike while the bull is hot.

[Elizabeth I]

Really? Ah well, you learn something new everyday.

I know, isn't it cool?

[Cl1mh4224rd]

Well, I'm surprised no one else has nominated CJOKUSAP yet.

The fact that it's on JREF makes it even funnier: I don't believe it's actually occurred to him yet that a group with a high percentage of atheists might not use "godless" as an insult.


The "god-less Arab" thing just doesn't make any sense either, especially if he's playing off of some peoples' characterization of truthers as Islamic extremist apologists.

[Horatius]

Can we nominate a thread title? T.A.M. will love this one:


New Zombie Drug From Bogota, SCOPOLAMINE


From user "alive and still talking (http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=14962)" at LCF.

For those of you who aren't doctors, check out the wiki on Scopolamine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scopolamine)

[Civilized Worm]

Well, I'm surprised no one else has nominated CJOKUSAP yet.

The fact that it's on JREF makes it even funnier: I don't believe it's actually occurred to him yet that a group with a high percentage of atheists might not use "godless" as an insult.


An insult towards religious fanatics no less!

[Brainache]

Lyte Trip on the impossibility of air travel:

http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?postid=2930814#post2930814

The plane was on the north side of the Citgo and pull up over the highway on it's way to the Pentagon.

You can't move a plane.

[Loss Leader]

You can't move a plane.


That quote made my nose bleed.

[Belz...]

Can't move a plane...

Didn't they use to say that in 1870s or something ?

Or was that an obscure D&D reference ?

[maccy]

From the comments section of the Feathered Bastard blog:

maccy, you're hilarious. it's not up to us in the truth movement to prove that it was an inside job. of course we have a lack of evidence, simply because the government hasn't released sufficient evidence.

http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/bastard/2007/08/he_aint_no_michelle_malkin_but.php#comment-190544

[maccy]

This one is probably a bit too long for a Stundie, but it boggles my mind:

Here's the interesting thing about Coincidences and Anomalies: If you're a good Coincidence and Anomaly Theorist (CAT) you never have to admit anything.

I say 2 + 2 = 4.

CAT says no it isn't.

I take two balls and put them on the table. Then I take two more balls and put them on the table. Then I count the balls. 1, 2, 3, 4. Here's my proof, I say: 2 + 2 = 4.

CAT says no it isn't.

But I just laid it out on the table, says I. That's the proof.

CAT says no that's just a coincidence.

So I do it again. Get the same answer. Is that a coincidence too? I ask.

CAT says no that's an anomaly.

Turns out you can pile up as many coincidences as you like and CAT says that's just an anomaly. Or you can pile up a bunch of anomalies and CAT says that's just a coincidence.http://winterpatriot.blogspot.com/2007/09/cat-101-introduction-to-conspiracy-and.html

If there's anything worse than plain stupid, it's stupid trying to be clever.

[defaultdotxbe]

lyte trip, on his flyover theory

Give it up?

It happened, duder.

We have confirmed it. Your inaction speaks volumes.

craigs inaction (in not presenting his evidence to the proper authorities and sitting on his so-called "researchers edition" video while he trolls forums) of course, speaks no volumes

[Belz...]

From the comments section of the Feathered Bastard blog:



http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/bastard/2007/08/he_aint_no_michelle_malkin_but.php#comment-190544

What a beautiful cop-out.

[Horatius]

This one is probably a bit too long for a Stundie, but it boggles my mind:

http://winterpatriot.blogspot.com/2007/09/cat-101-introduction-to-conspiracy-and.html

If there's anything worse than plain stupid, it's stupid trying to be clever.



Wow, he just goes downhill from there. Here are some of the "coincidences" that he complains about:

Who scheduled all the wargames that took the Air Force away from the Eastern Seaboard that day? Did Osama bin Laden schedule the wargames?

118 first responders (fire and medical personnel) who were at Ground Zero on the mor[n]ing of 9/11, reported seeing or hearing bombs or explosions in the bui[ld]ings before they crumbled. Why is that? Is this a conspiracy o[f] eyewitnesses?

Why did Bush and Cheney insist on testifying together, and not under oath, and why did they insist that no notes of their testimony could be kept? If they weren't trying to hide anything, why would they act like they were trying to hide something?



They aren't even coincidences, at least as I uderstand the term. And of course, he seems to think that disagreeing with his interpretation of any of the above is just exactly like arguing that 2+2 doesn't equal 4.....

[Tbone]

lyte trip, on his flyover theory



craigs inaction (in not presenting his evidence to the proper authorities and sitting on his so-called "researchers edition" video while he trolls forums) of course, speaks no volumes

What action, by "us," is supposed to be undertaken anyways?

[Gravy]

What action, by "us," is supposed to be undertaken anyways?That's easy.

1) Select a 9/11 victim (other than Lloyd England: he's spoken for) who was nearly killed by the attacks.

2) Accuse that person of complicity in the attacks.

3) Sit back and enjoy being one of the nastiest creeps on the planet.

Is that too much to ask?

[qarnos]

That's easy.

1) Select a 9/11 victim (other than Lloyd England: he's spoken for) who was nearly killed by the attacks.

2) Accuse that person of complicity in the attacks.

3) Sit back and enjoy being one of the nastiest creeps on the planet.

Is that too much to ask?

I think Tbone's comment was in response to Craigs statement that skeptics don't take action. So, by "us", he meant skeptics. t'least that's how I read it.

[defaultdotxbe]

I think Tbone's comment was in response to Craigs statement that skeptics don't take action. So, by "us", he meant skeptics. t'least that's how I read it.
and i think gravy is (sarcastically) indicating that we should be taking the same action craig himself is taking

[qarnos]

and i think gravy is (sarcastically) indicating that we should be taking the same action craig himself is taking

Now I'm double confused!

*re-reads*

OK... I think I get it. :D

[Gravy]

and i think gravy is (sarcastically) indicating that we should be taking the same action craig himself is takingYes. He Whose Name Shall Not be Uttered has repeatedly requested that we join him in his despicable campaign or go down in history as being complicit in the attacks.

[Belz...]

He Whose Name Shall Not be Uttered

Hastur ?

[Belz...]

Say, Moby. Where's that Stundie finals for August thread ???

[HyJinX]

Hastur ?

No silly...Engelbert Humperdinck.

[Belz...]

Nothing's silly about the king in yellow, hyJinX.

[HyJinX]

<----- Hangs head in shame.

[Sabrina]

From Swing Dangler, in the thread (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=84473&page=83) where he's been arguing that there were enough and specific warnings for the administration to do something, and wherein Billdave gave him a mock warning that actually had MORE information than any the administration received.

You need to narrow that warning down a bit.

------------------------------------------------------------

No but if Billdave 2 tells me this guy and his friend's names, where he and his friends resides, his connections to other murders, the type of weapon he was going to use, that he had been training with the weapon of choice, how he was going to get to his target, his potential targets, that he had been under surveillance for some time, and people from around the globe were sharing similar information with me, and that this person was going to attack very soon, you darn well bet I'm going to be proactive.

Yet again proving that there is a double standard twoofers apply to us and themselves; THEY can be vague and unspecified, but let us point out that the warnings received were ALSO vague and unspecified, and look out!

[maccy]

This one is probably a bit too long for a Stundie, but it boggles my mind:

http://winterpatriot.blogspot.com/2007/09/cat-101-introduction-to-conspiracy-and.html

If there's anything worse than plain stupid, it's stupid trying to be clever.

Wow, he just goes downhill from there. Here are some of the "coincidences" that he complains about:

They aren't even coincidences, at least as I uderstand the term. And of course, he seems to think that disagreeing with his interpretation of any of the above is just exactly like arguing that 2+2 doesn't equal 4.....

Look, Horatius, there are universes where we are famous:

http://winterpatriot.blogspot.com/2007/09/cat-102-intermediate-coincidence-and.html

It's almost as good as being big in Japan.

I've left a comment clearing up his misunderstandings about the relationship between the JREF and the forum. I'll leave the comments about reading comprehension to others...

[Horatius]

Look, Horatius, there are universes where we are famous:

http://winterpatriot.blogspot.com/2007/09/cat-102-intermediate-coincidence-and.html

It's almost as good as being big in Japan.

I've left a comment clearing up his misunderstandings about the relationship between the JREF and the forum. I'll leave the comments about reading comprehension to others...



Wow! Touchy!

[Unsecured Coins]

chucksheen convinces me

The matrix of steel was so massive in the Twin Towers that I don't believe and I'm not convinced that it lost ANY strength. Consider the fact that there were humans standing in the impact zone, where the fuel entered, and they did not melt.

http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=15120

[defaultdotxbe]

chucksheen convinces me



http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=15120
well im convinced





......that they didnt look upon the ark of the covenant
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v190/defaultdotxbe/mo_82.jpg

[Unsecured Coins]

you win

[CptColumbo]

Yes. He Whose Name Shall Not be Uttered has repeatedly requested that we join him in his despicable campaign or go down in history as being complicit in the attacks.
Which side has better cookies? All my decisions are based on this simple question.

[The Silver Shadow]

Which side has better cookies? All my decisions are based on this simple question.
I would ask which side has free food. Usually, the NWO spares no expense, but we are coming to the time of the annual budget. If the twoofers have cookies, I'm all for it!

[CptColumbo]

I would ask which side has free food. Usually, the NWO spares no expense, but we are coming to the time of the annual budget. If the twoofers have cookies, I'm all for it!Pecan Sandies please.

[Cl1mh4224rd]

Which side has better cookies? All my decisions are based on this simple question.


Well, umm... the truthers bake a special ingredient into theirs. I don't know what it is, but it apparently makes you crave more cookies.

[defaultdotxbe]

Well, umm... the truthers bake a special ingredient into theirs. I don't know what it is, but it apparently makes you crave more cookies.
no, we put that there, its what makes them see us as interdimensional lizardmen, and makes normal peopel see them are paranoid nuts (and yes, it does also make them crave more cookies, its a devious cycle)

[Belz...]

chucksheen convinces me

:jaw-dropp

Humans melt ?

I thought they spontaneously combusted under those conditions ???

[JonnyFive]

mjd1982 reminds us that nothing exists outside the internet.

i'm still waiting for actual documents. 2nd time asking....

The "actual documents" arent online. Therefore they dont exist.

[Belz...]

I do believe Mjd was being sarcastic, however.

[Sabrina]

Source? :p

[Belz...]

Well, he does claim the documents exist, I think.

[maccy]

Yes, mjd's argument is, I think:

1. The document exists
2. I've been asked for a source, but I can't find one online
3. There could be an source for the document that isn't online
Therefore:
The document exists.

Fallacious? Yes. Stundie worthy? Perhaps not.

[Mobyseven]

Say, Moby. Where's that Stundie finals for August thread ???

:) Mobyseven's Schedule :)

0800 - Wake up! It's a beautiful day!
0830 - Showered and dressed, time for breakfast!
0900 - Study...study study study study...
1030 - Leave house for a 20min walk to the train station.
1100 - Navigate the public transport system of a strange city. What a wonderful world we live in!
1300 - Arrive early at rehearsals. In spare time, study.
1400 - Rehearsals. So much singing! Study in the breaks!
2100 - Finish rehearsals. Pack up study gear, head to train station!
2300 - Arrive at house. Eat dinner - boy it's late! Study...
0000 - JREF forums. If there's time. Then sleep.

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In other words, I'm busy at the moment. Very busy. And this pattern will continue until the opera closes in October (though I may have more spare time once the show is on).

I will get around to it, but it will be very late. Alternately, if somebody would like to volunteer for the task, just PM me and we can have a guest presenter for Teh Stundies in September!

Mobyseven

Democratically Elected Tyrant

[JonnyFive]

I do believe Mjd was being sarcastic, however.

Why do you have to go and ruin my fun like that, Belz.

Is this about that thing from last month? You know, the "visual evidence" thing? :D


(In all fairness, however, it's really, really hard to tell with mjd.)

[Belz...]

Why do you have to go and ruin my fun like that, Belz.

Is this about that thing from last month? You know, the "visual evidence" thing? :D

Eternity's a very long time, Jonny.

[JonnyFive]

Eternity's a very long time, Jonny.

Ah, but it was so totally worth it! :D

[Sabrina]

We discover why Swing Dangler can't change his mind... he's actually *gasp* DEAD! (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=84473&page=85)

As a victim of murder, I would appreciate you ending this erroneous fallacy. If you chose not to, I will end civil discussion with you via the ignore button.

[Civilized Worm]

http://www.haloscan.com/comments/screwloosechange/74
31447815488638101/?a=53140#84812


I mean...the first question I had was 'three buildings?...really? It's beyond science, and you debunkers ****ing know it, and don't pretend like it's not.


Three buildings? MAGIC!

[defaultdotxbe]

http://www.haloscan.com/comments/screwloosechange/74
31447815488638101/?a=53140#84812





Three buildings? MAGIC!
i looked at the original quote because i wanted to see the context....but there is none...sure he says more words, but i have no clue what hes on about, lol

[qarnos]

:) Mobyseven's Schedule :)

0800 - Wake up! It's a beautiful day!
0830 - Showered and dressed, time for breakfast!
0900 - Stundie...stundie stundie stundie stundie...
1030 - Leave house for a 20min walk to the train station.
1100 - Navigate the public transport system of a strange city. What a wonderful world we live in!
1300 - Arrive early at rehearsals. In spare time, stundie.
1400 - Rehearsals. So much singing! Stundie in the breaks!
2100 - Finish rehearsals. Pack up study gear, head to train station!
2300 - Arrive at house. Eat dinner - boy it's late! Stundie...
0000 - JREF forums. If there's time. Then sleep.


Fixed it for you. ;) :D

[maccy]

OldSchool on Katana's evil mod powers, suspicious forum title and employment by dark federal agencies:

The fact your have a title of Illuminator and have control of this forum really does explain alot about this site. I noramally discount what any "illuminator" has to say as no more than "neo-con" or "nwo" rhetoric. Does this website actually recieve federal funding? Is this website actually an employer of the US government in an attempt to spread disinformation?

[Civilized Worm]

i looked at the original quote because i wanted to see the context....but there is none...sure he says more words, but i have no clue what hes on about, lol


How could you possibly hope to understand? It's beyond science!

[Mobyseven]

Fixed it for you. ;) :D

At first I thought I'd finally snapped...then I realised.

But anyway, how about it? Anyone want to be a guest presenter for this month? I'll still manage the nomination threads, so it's only the one finals thread.

It would help me out a lot at the moment. If I don't hear anything in the next couple of days I'll find the time somewhere, but they could be quite late!

[qarnos]

At first I thought I'd finally snapped...then I realised.

But anyway, how about it? Anyone want to be a guest presenter for this month? I'll still manage the nomination threads, so it's only the one finals thread.

It would help me out a lot at the moment. If I don't hear anything in the next couple of days I'll find the time somewhere, but they could be quite late!

I'd be willing to do it, but I have a nomination in there which, IMHO, is a ripper, so neutrality could be an issue.

What if I come up with a short-list and you can make the final selection? I'll still deal with all the presentation stuff if you like.

ETA: We are also in the same timezone, so we can still confuse those pesky North Americans :D

[jsfisher]

ETA: We are also in the same timezone, so we can still confuse those pesky North Americans :D

Confused, maybe, but pesky?

[JimBenArm]

Confused, maybe, but pesky?
Probably referring to me.

[qarnos]

Uh, guys, it was a joke :)

[jsfisher]

Uh, guys, it was a joke :)

Yup, and that's why we are poking fun at it.

[JimBenArm]

You mean I'm not pesky? Must be slipping...

[TjW]

No, I think you've stepped up to pestiferous.

[DarkMagician]

OldSchool shows off his reading skills:
56% do support a new independent investigation which is an obvious majority and ironically almost identical to Cheney impeachment support.
He didn't read the answers to the poll and just assumed that the majority is on his side.

[Slayhamlet]

OldSchool shows off his reading skills:

He didn't read the answers to the poll and just assumed that the majority is on his side.

He also appears to not know what "ironically" means.

[Sabrina]

And this surprises you? ;)

[Belz...]

:) Mobyseven's Schedule :)

0800 - Wake up! It's a beautiful day!
0830 - Showered and dressed, time for breakfast!
0900 - Study...study study study study...
1030 - Leave house for a 20min walk to the train station.
1100 - Navigate the public transport system of a strange city. What a wonderful world we live in!
1300 - Arrive early at rehearsals. In spare time, study.
1400 - Rehearsals. So much singing! Study in the breaks!
2100 - Finish rehearsals. Pack up study gear, head to train station!
2300 - Arrive at house. Eat dinner - boy it's late! Study...
0000 - JREF forums. If there's time. Then sleep.


Why is your schedule pink ?

[Belz...]

And this surprises you? ;)

Oh, by the way, Sabrina, I just happen to find a wallpaper-sized version of your avatar, completely by accident, yesterday. Of all the coincidences.

Must be a sign! ;)

[Sabrina]

*chuckles* You're going to miss this when I change it, aren't you?

[Belz...]

Not anymore ;)

[JonnyFive]

Why is your schedule pink ?

I was actually wondering the same thing.

[maccy]

RedIbis should learn when to stop digging.

Any report that talks about a phenomena was written by a semi-literate: the singular term is phenomenon.

Since you are so exceedingly literate, what would you call a phenomenon that happened more than once?

[Belz...]

So since I saw my car twice today, it's a cars ?

[JonnyFive]

mjd1982 make a similar pluralizational gaffe today with his "make simple inference" comment. But, of course, he claims he's right and everyone else is wrong.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go down floor and buy meal now.

[Drudgewire]

Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go down floor and buy meal now.
Can you grab me one? Or is carrying a meals gonna be too much of a hassle? ;)

[HyJinX]

mjd1982 make a similar pluralizational gaffe today with his "make simple inference" comment. But, of course, he claims he's right and everyone else is wrong.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go down floor and buy meal now.

Make sandwich? Chicken salad good!

[Belz...]

mjd1982 make similar pluralizational gaffe today with "make simple inference" comment. But, of course, he claims right and everyone wrong.

Now, if excuse me, I'm down floor and buy meal now.

Fixed that for you.

[JonnyFive]

Fixed that for you.

Ah, thanks. :)

As a matter of fact, I had sandwich! Was good! Nefs!

[defaultdotxbe]

Ah, thanks. :)

As a matter of fact, I had sandwich! Was good! Nefs!
enough with the newspeak already

besides, the sandwich i had for lunch was doubleplusgood

[Horatius]

smeagul75 at LCF: (http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=15200&view=findpost&p=14569087)


skeppy....alex jones is ON AIR being threatend....i aint doin yer research for ya....and by the way.....you have the right to be skeptical...just as we have the right (kinda)to question the veracity of any and all dealings pertaining to september 11 2001.....now please...go big or go home. would you like the link to the fbi web site?(it says osama aint wanted) or how bout boeings spec sheet for a 747(wich states the wing span as 124 ft 10 inches)yet the 17 ft pentagon hole.....we can do this all day. PLEASE COME WITH FACTS INSTEAD OF INANE DRIVEL THAT GOOGLE WILL SHOW YOU


Yep, let's all get those facts, people!

[Slayhamlet]

Okay, I'm not nominating this or anything, I just thought it very indicative of the "Truth" movement as a whole:

Didn't gravy make death threats to someone here maybe Dylan?
I'm sure I read about it.

Is there anything these nitwits don't get ass-backwards?

ETA: forgot the link: http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=15200&view=findpost&p=14569160

[Civilized Worm]

Keep reading that thread and see "smeagul75" getting in to a heated arguement with... himself.

[Horatius]

Keep reading that thread and see "smeagul75" getting in to a heated arguement with... himself.



He was just re-enacting that bit from "The Two Towers".....

[Civilized Worm]

Youtube videos subject to the observer effect!


Again ... do you have a URL of an unedited video?
cannuck | 09.07.07 - 3:34 pm | #

And how would I know it was unedited? Or uncut?

Also don't forget that observation affects the object under observation, as well as the fact that no instrument is 100% accurate. We live in an imperfect world, in case you haven't noticed.
Boris Epstein


http://www.haloscan.com/comments/screwloosechange/8487743201772044217/?a=30869#85634

[Slayhamlet]

Youtube videos subject to the observer effect!





http://www.haloscan.com/comments/screwloosechange/8487743201772044217/?a=30869#85634

Doesn't the observer effect have to do with particle physics?

[Oliver]

"HOW DARE YOU!!!!! I started out in this movement over 4 years ago speaking to complete strangers on street corners. Most of them told me I was crazy and those were the kind ones! My girlfriend cried and begged every time I went out because she thought I would be killed! And still I went! I lost every single friend I had because they couldn't handle the truth and I couldn't just "let it go" as they suggested I do. The dreams I once had are DEAD! My business is destroyed, any chance of a normal life is gone! I've been cursed, laughed at, and banned. And still I go! If I had it to do over I wouldn't change a thing. No, I am no coward, I have faced my fear and it does not control me! But I am tired of *****s and government whores like yourself so please excuse me if I don't jump to answer your every question and fulfill you every whim. If you had a brain in your head and an ounce of courage you would do your own research and find out for yourself. You would already know what you badger me to give you, THE TRUTH!!!!"

Source: http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=15222

[e^n]

Doesn't the observer effect have to do with particle physics?

Quantum physics really, but yes he's talking rubbish.

My nomination
no one has ever produced a photo or a video of a sagging floor...

EDIT: Or an inward bowing exterior column.
http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=15210&view=findpost&p=14569702

Oh the comedy.

[Minadin]

Keep reading that thread and see "smeagul75" getting in to a heated arguement with... himself.

:eye-poppi :eek: :faint:

Holy smokes, I'm never going to open another Stundies thread at the office again - that put me into a fit of nearly uncontrollable hysterical laughter. Just the username, and the passion (CAPS!) with which he refuted himself, and the image from the movie . . .

I'm starting to smirk again and I need to stop thinking about this for at least another 20 minutes or so till the work week is over.

[Horatius]

Roxdog gives us an almost perfect example of a Strawman:

e^n asks:
Sorry to push it but can you be a bit more exact about what theory you were talking about?

Roxdog replies: (http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=15210&view=findpost&p=14569799)

The theory that sagging floors caused a modern steel highrise to "collapse" into a pile of dust....

[Civilized Worm]

The twoofers aren't out fighting for their cause because they face worse retributions that the civil rights movement:


Plus, if you read the current laws the kind of suppression that truthers can reasonably expect would dwarf all the abuses of the civil war era.
Boris Epstein | Homepage | 09.06.07 - 8:40 pm | #

http://www.haloscan.com/comments/screwloosechange/8219577574685396797/?a=25380#85247


Also, Bob Bowman is a modern day Martin Luther King:


Seeing how you compared truthers to Civil Rights cativists, who in your movement would you compare to, say, Martin Luther King Jr?
CHF | 09.07.07 - 12:55 pm | #

I would say Dr Bob Bowman makes a good comparison.
Boris Epstein | Homepage | 09.07.07 - 1:26 pm | #

http://www.haloscan.com/comments/screwloosechange/8219577574685396797/?a=25380#85555

[Mobyseven]

Why is your schedule pink ?
I was actually wondering the same thing.

Ugh. I hate explaining jokes.

I was using colours associated with happiness and joy to juxtapose the actual contents of my day, which amount to essential wake-work-travel-rehearse-travel-work-repeat.

Also for some reason there are a lot of...'effeminate' male singers in the show. The pink could be a symptom of that, too. :eek: :p

[Civilized Worm]

Oh man, Boris just gets better and better!


You didn't bother reading up on logical fallacies did you.
Civilized Worm | 09.08.07 - 10:49 am | #

To the contrary, I did. I just don't agree with the definitions presented.
Boris Epstein | Homepage | 09.08.07 - 2:08 pm | #

http://www.haloscan.com/comments.php?user=%20screwloosechange%20&comment=8219577574685396797#85993

[cmcaulif]

This is pretty funny:

Anybody who is bent on exposing Plane Fraud/Video Fakery or wants to expose Israeli involvement in 9/11 is marked down as somebody who knows "a lot".

http://imdb.com/title/tt0475276/board/thread/84635199

Although I wish the entire post could be nominated. The level of paranoia is off the charts, even for a truther.

[afinemadness]

This is pretty funny:



http://imdb.com/title/tt0475276/board/thread/84635199

Although I wish the entire post could be nominated. The level of paranoia is off the charts, even for a truther.

You evil threatening bastard. :jaw-dropp Now they know we are on to them. prepare to disappear.

[Pardalis]

When in doubt, ask anyone on the street, they'll tell you.


The implication in his comment is very clear- the proof is in the interpretation of it by laypeople.

Public opinion is the barometer of what he was talking about. It is the most reasonable measure of interpretation of what a layperson has said. This should be very very easy to understand.

[jhunter1163]

RedIbis should learn when to stop digging.

Hey, Pomeroo's quote is an insult to us semiliterates. I know the plural of "phenomenon" is "phenomena". And I know what is and ain't grammatical, too.

[fachverwirrt]

Also for some reason there are a lot of...'effeminate' male singers in the show. The pink could be a symptom of that, too. :eek: :p
For some reason? New to the business, are you?;)

[Mobyseven]

For some reason? New to the business, are you?;)

Well, yeah, but this is like buying a packet of M+Ms and every single one of them is pink!

[Belz...]

When in doubt, ask anyone on the street, they'll tell you.

Yeah, truth is a democracy. :rolleyes:

[JonnyFive]

Ugh. I hate explaining jokes.

I was using colours associated with happiness and joy to juxtapose the actual contents of my day, which amount to essential wake-work-travel-rehearse-travel-work-repeat.

Too metaphysical for my tastes. Maybe next time you could try something with fart jokes.

[Calcas]

Another brilliant explanation why AA77 couldn't have hit the Pentagon.

For the record, I don't see how a plane travelling 500 MPH could hit the outer wall at that angle (above), and penetrate anything. I would think it would have bounced off the wall, and scattered debris all over the lawn.

http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=15305

[JonnyFive]

Another brilliant explanation why AA77 couldn't have hit the Pentagon.

Ah, so he's a student of the malcolm kirman school of physics.

[maccy]

Ah, so he's a student of the malcolm kirman school of physics.

You know, I'd consider making a donation towards the establishment of such an institution, provided it was also made the subject of a Reality TV series.

[JonnyFive]

You know, I'd consider making a donation towards the establishment of such an institution, provided it was also made the subject of a Reality TV series.

Also, the school should probably be called "The Malcom Kirman Institute of Practical Physicologicalmologolyics."

[Par]

Also, the school should probably be called "The Malcom Kirman Institute of Practical Physicologicalmologolyics."



"The Malcom Kirman Institute of Practical Physicologicalmologolyics for Kids Who Can't Do Practical Physicologicalmologolyics Good".

[MortFurd]

You know, I'd consider making a donation towards the establishment of such an institution, provided it was also made the subject of a Reality TV series.

That'd be entertaining - for a little while. But only for a little while. The attrition rate would be appalling - and there'd be Darwin awards for most of the casualties.

[JonnyFive]

That'd be entertaining - for a little while. But only for a little while. The attrition rate would be appalling - and there'd be Darwin awards for most of the casualties.

"What do you mean 'A .50 caliber rifle will penetrate that piece of steel you're hiding behind'? That bullet is lead, and steel is harder than lead! That bullet will bounce right off of... *ping* *splat*"

[maccy]

It could be a Big Brother style elimination contest.

"Which of these ten students will survive with their sanity intact?"

[TjW]

It could be a Big Brother style elimination contest.

"Which of these ten students will survive with their sanity intact?"

If you're going to use Twoofers, I'd say that assumes facts not in evidence.

[JonnyFive]

If you're going to use Twoofers, I'd say that assumes facts not in evidence.

So just strike the last four words from the tagline and we're good to go.

[qarnos]

JoshuaBair finds a way to make an incorrect claim even wronger:

However, I didn't find much in the way of proof that metal can collapse faster than the speed of gravity.

link (http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=15405&view=findpost&p=14578030)

[JonnyFive]

JoshuaBair finds a way to make an incorrect claim even wronger:

It's like he just took a series of keywords and rearranged them randomly, then added a few connecting words to make it into a technically correct English sentence.

"I don't think metal freefall can be controlled by thermite planes. Clearly the government used C4 bombs on the aluminum! Show me the money!"

[GlennB]

Terral has been squandering bandwidth over at LCF with monumental cut+paste CT regurgitations full of gibberish, but part of this post is a Stundyesque cracker -

Terral deduces that Flt 77 was a cruise missile (http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=14796)

Scroll down to the 5th photo and read the <cough> analysis.

Having read quite a lot of Terral's "work" though, I'm half inclined to believe that he's 'aving a larf.

[maccy]

This probably isn't eligible, as it's a response to a blog post about the Penn & Teller BS episode on immigration, but I'm quoting it anyway:

thows two are basterds, they dont beleve in god and mock him, (see some of there other shows) i dont get why anyone would spend a second of there time to lissen to them rant for what they call reason. reason is the tool of the devil.http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/bastard/2007/09/penn_and_teller_********_on_im.php#comment-218770

[Unsecured Coins]

reason is the tool of the devil

I like it. I second this nomination and threaten to hold my breath until my face turns blue if it is not recognized by this council

[Belz...]

Reason is the tool of the Devil (Belz...), indeed.

But it's also the tool of everybody else who's got more than one functioning brain cell.

[Swing Dangler]

Originally Posted by Swing Dangler View Post
Source? So an engineer can do it with math but we can't do it with modern computers? How can you explain that?

kookbreakerEvil Fokker
Its already been explained to you that there is a difference between calculating events with math and modeling them on a computer.http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=92918

Computers apparently have stopped doing calculations in 2007. :big:

[kookbreaker]

Computers apparently have stopped doing calculations in 2007. :big:

Care to explain how you got that from what I said?

[rwguinn]

When the attempt was made to explain the concept of "the map is not the territory", and simulations are more complex than simple math, Swing Dangler replied:
Computers apparently have stopped doing calculations in 2007. :big:

[Horatius]

This probably isn't eligible, as it's a response to a blog post about the Penn & Teller BS episode on immigration, but I'm quoting it anyway:

http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/bastard/2007/09/penn_and_teller_********_on_im.php#comment-218770



The link was ****ed by the autocensor. You'll have to replace the **** with the well-known title of their show to get the link to work.

[Belz...]

Computers apparently have stopped doing calculations in 2007. :big:

You're not very good at this, are you ?

[maccy]

The link was ****ed by the autocensor. You'll have to replace the **** with the well-known title of their show to get the link to work.

Or find it from here:

http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/bastard/

[Alareth]

Do you have any empirical evidence showing there were no explosives used?

Short, concise, pure Stundie.

[JonnyFive]

Double post.

[johnny karate]

Computers apparently have stopped doing calculations in 2007. :big:

I like how Swing is just posting here to save us time.

[JonnyFive]

Computers apparently have stopped doing calculations in 2007. :big:

Swing, I do believe the lack of a link back to the original post makes your nomination ineligible.

[rwguinn]

I do believe the lack of a link back to the original post makes your nomination ineligible.


You gotta be talking to ol' swingy, hisself.
Being a twoofer means you have trouble with differentiating reality from computers, and instructions are written by "da man!"

[maccy]

Commenter Tony explains to us lousy skeptics the power of having a small thermite bonfire underneath a 15' steel sign:

john created at burningman a wonderful work of art that not only was visually beautiful and inspiring, but in no uncertain terms asked the viewer to question for himself how steel could collapse neatly, perfectly, from asymmetric fires burning only hydrocarbons.http://911truthburn.blogspot.com/2007/09/about-70-lbs-of-thermite-ignited.html#comment-4447407316308053848

[Swing Dangler]

Do you have any empirical evidence showing there were no explosives used?
Short, concise, pure Stundie.
Short, concise, pure Stundie.

You can easily provide the information displaying the scientific tests for chemical signatures from explosives, correct?

I didn't think so.

Your going to have to do better than that.

[Swing Dangler]

When the attempt was made to explain the concept of "the map is not the territory", and simulations are more complex than simple math, Swing Dangler replied:

This of course was a nice job of lying for a Stundie nomination which explains the lack of a link back to the original source.

[rwguinn]

You can easily provide the information displaying the scientific tests for chemical signatures from explosives, correct?

I didn't think so.

Your going to have to do better than that.
Alareth was pointing out that you just asked him/her to prove that there are no invisible pink unicorns living in your garage...I willtype it very slowly:
You can show that residue does or does not exist. Existance would be evidence that explosives were used. The fact that no residues were found is a strong indicator the other way.

[DGM]

You can easily provide the information displaying the scientific tests for chemical signatures from explosives, correct?

I didn't think so.

Your going to have to do better than that.
[whispers to swing] Explosives leave definite marks on steel when they cut, none were found.

[maccy]

We should probably ignore any more posts from Swing trying to argue about this - or take it to another thread.

[Belz...]

You can easily provide the information displaying the scientific tests for chemical signatures from explosives, correct?

I didn't think so.

Your going to have to do better than that.

Yeah, this has nothing to do with anything, but thanks for trying, twoofer.

[Civilized Worm]

What happened to Malcolm Kirkman?

[Cl1mh4224rd]

What happened to Malcolm Kirkman?


SHHHHH!!!

[JamesB]

"We're not allowed in the Port Authority but 5 of the hijackers were allowed to train at naval bases to fly airplanes"

-Unknown troofer at We Are Change rally in NYC on 9/11/2007-

[maccy]

What happened to Malcolm Kirkman?

I'm worried that he may have undertaken some grand and disastrous experiment to demonstrate that gravity does not exist in a vacuum.

[volatile]

I just fell about laughing at this gem, wherein MjD redefines the word "censorship":

The fact that artilcles have appeared doesnt do anyting to show that it hasnt been overwhelmingly censored. Public opinion shows this. And this is overwhelmingly one sided.

but then noticed it was posted in August. Just ignore me; carry on as normal.

[NYCEMT86]

I was under the impression that nukes may have been used at the WTC because of molten metal in the basement and because of the nanoparticles flying everywhere as well as victims with dripping skin.

http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=15479

[CptColumbo]

I'm worried that he may have undertaken some grand and disastrous experiment to demonstrate that gravity does not exist in a vacuum.
I still giggle when I think of that.

[Dave Rogers]

http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=15405 (sorry, I still can't figure out how to do proper links to LCF posts)

Discobee at his finest here, commenting on Keith Seffen's paper on the WTC collapses:

I don't even have to read his paper - I know the context within which it is appearing. I know its purpose and I know that its conclusions are false.

How better to sum up the truther mentality?

Dave

[Firestone]

I think I found a loophole in Mobyseven's rules. :)

So before he fixes it for next month, I nominate this bizarre evidence for 9/11 as an inside job:

9-11 is gepleegd door de Amerikaanse regering, let wel.. er zijn geen overlevenden onder de vliegtuigpassagiers.

In the unlikely case someone here doesn't understand Dutch, here a translation:

"9-11 was committed by the American government, notice ... there are no survivors among the plane passengers."

Link (http://www.nujij.nl/nieuwe-bin-laden-video-is-nep.921990.lynkx)

[Belz...]

I just fell about laughing at this gem, wherein MjD redefines the word "censorship":

So "censorship" now means that people don't believe it ?


Why was the flat earth theory censored ?????

[Belz...]

How better to sum up the truther mentality?

Yeah, they should make a sweater out of that.

Front: "I don't need facts"

Back: "I just _know_ it"

[volatile]

So "censorship" now means that people don't believe it ?


Whatever it means, it certainly doesn't mean "the information has not appeared in the press", apparently.

[Belz...]

Which in turn doesn't mean "it was prevented from being published."


I just love fundies.

[Bell]

<snip>

Link (http://www.nujij.nl/nieuwe-bin-laden-video-is-nep.921990.lynkx)

And how about the next post on that board:

En bovendien weten we al lang dat Moslims niet achter 9/11 zaten, hoe zouden die gebouw 7 kunnen neerbrengen bv.

Translation: And above all we know for a long time that Muslims were not behind 9/11, how could they have brought down building 7 for example?

[MortFurd]

What happened to Malcolm Kirkman?

This. (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?postid=2849606#post2849606)

[Spindrift]

Another brilliant explanation why AA77 couldn't have hit the Pentagon.



http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=15305

I can just see him testing his "hypothesis".

Hypothesis: The building was made of material denser than the airplane. So when airplane hits building it should bounce off.

Step 1) Make paper airplane.

Step 2) Throw at wall in bedroom in mom's house. Make sure to throw really hard because AA77 was going pretty fast.

Result: paper airplane bounced off wall without making a mark in the wall. Therefore AA77 should have bounced off the Pentagon.

[Horatius]

I think I've found the ultimate Stundie......Just wait for it, you'll see why:


I went to Ground Zero on 9/11 this year, and I had a great time, met tons of great people, and felt that we made a great presence overall.

The only bad thing was there was this guy with a huge sign there that said "USA DID 911". I thought this was a terrible representation of what we all stand for, and felt that he was there to make us look bad.

If that guy goes on these forums and didn't mean to misrepresent us, i'm sorry, but i don't feel that having a sign that says "USA DID 911" is a good way to introduce people to what happened on 9/11 and will only furthur instigate violence and anger among the people in NYC.



So what's so Stundielicious about this?



It was posted by the user "911wasaninsidejob (http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=15499&view=findpost&p=14580362)"

[Cl1mh4224rd]

I swear... I read that and everything got quiet. Like the whole of the universe ground to halt in sheer disbelief of itself.

[Alareth]

I think I've found the ultimate Stundie......Just wait for it, you'll see why:






So what's so Stundielicious about this?



It was posted by the user "911wasaninsidejob (http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=15499&view=findpost&p=14580362)"


http://forums.randi.org/imagehosting/1148846e8a6bda565f.png

Create you own error messages! (http://atom.smasher.org/error/)

[LashL]

This isn't actually a Stundie nomination as it doesn't quite fit within the guidelines, but I'm posting it here because of the sheer audacity, delusion, and unintended irony of Do-Over Dylan's response.

In this LCF thread about Nico Haupt:


Look, I've spoken with Nico many times. No one disputes that he's done really good research on 9/11. But that doesn't make him immune to critique of an absolutely ridiculous theory that does more harm than good.


Or the fact that accuses numerous members of the 9/11 truth movement of being either 1) government agents, 2) actors, or 3) complicit in the murder of 3,000 people.

The man needs to go. If I stooped to such a ridiculous low I'd hope people would call me on it.


So, according to Dylan Avery, it is okay for him and other members of the TruthTM movement to accuse thousands of innocent people of being "either 1) government agents, 2) actors, or 3) complicit in the murders of 3,000 people," but it's not okay to accuse members of the TruthTM movement of any of those things.

As for Dylan stooping to such a ridiculous low, he has repeatedly sunk far, far lower than that ("Boxcutters, hahahahahaha!!"; Accusing Bernard Brown of being "deeply involved in it" and "sending his son off to die" while he went and played golf; "Flight 11 and Flight 77 didn't exist"; Mark Bingham's mother is a liar; "The cell phone calls were fake, no question about it." etc., etc., etc.) and he hates that people have called him on it.

If Dylan were to apply his own standards to himself, it seems that he "needs to go" too.

Edit to add link: http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=15519 (Scroll down about 1/3 of the page for Dylan Avery's post)

[Belz...]

I think I've found the ultimate Stundie......Just wait for it, you'll see why:

So what's so Stundielicious about this?



It was posted by the user "911wasaninsidejob (http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=15499&view=findpost&p=14580362)"

I think what he meant to say is that "USA" didn't "do" 9/11, but the government did. Something like that.

[Belz...]

So, according to Dylan Avery, it is okay for him and other members of the TruthTM movement to accuse thousands of innocent people of being "either 1) government agents, 2) actors, or 3) complicit in the murders of 3,000 people," but it's not okay to accuse members of the TruthTM movement of any of those things.

For the "tm", all you need is the "sup" tag.

If Dylan were to apply his own standards to himself, it seems that he "needs to go" too.

If he applied that to himself, he'd probably vanish from existence.

[tacodaemon]

Keep reading that thread and see "smeagul75" getting in to a heated arguement with... himself.


I liked this post (http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=15200&view=findpost&p=14569165) in which smeagul copy-pastes some text from somewhere as though it's his own words, but leaves the author blurb tagline at the end.

[Belz...]

Ah, truthers. Always ready to lie to support their agenda.

[Gravy]

Lash, I forwarded your post to Avery with the title "Keep up the good work!"

[Dumb All Over]

I'm not sure this has been nominated yet. From http://www.wearechange.org/deptintelligence.html (http://www.wearechange.org/deptintelligence.html),
More info on the Department of Intelligence comming soon...

[Drudgewire]

I'm not sure this has been nominated yet. From http://www.wearechange.org/deptintelligence.html (http://www.wearechange.org/deptintelligence.html),
I meant to but it's a hectic work day. http://www.lethalwrestling.com/upload/doh.gif

[Unsecured Coins]

there goes any chance I had of my "People Didn't Melt" nomination winning

[Dave Rogers]

http://www.motherjones.com/news/featurex/2007/09/homeland-insecurity-myths-and-facts.html

A couple of responses to Alferd Packer from the comments section stood out. From "Disheartened":

There was molten metal photographed and taped at the site. Molten metal means.... drumroll... melted steel.

It's official - copper, lead, aluminium and all the other non-ferrous metals no longer exist.

From Daniel Brady:

Let us just focus on the twin towers. Let us use some basic logic and reasoning. It is clear that the towers did NOT collapse only because of the planes hitting them. First the buildings, as they stood, are symetrical systems. Second the planes "input" into these systems was asymetrical. The logical conclusion is that the "output" or the buildings collapse would also have to be asymetrical. The fact that the "output" was symetrical is proof that the planes "input" "did the job. It could not have. The towers could not have collapsed in the way they did unless there was "additional input" to make that happen. There is no escape from that logic. An even number plus an odd number always yeilds an odd number. That is a matter of mathematical simplicity, yet applying such pure reasoning has escaped almost everyone or so it would seem.

It's all so simple!

Dave

[Dumb All Over]

I meant to but it's a hectic work day. http://www.lethalwrestling.com/upload/doh.gif
Drudgewire, it's your find. You deserve and will get all the credit if it wins.:)

[Drudgewire]

Drudgewire, it's your find. You deserve and will get all the credit if it wins.:)

Thanks. I'll at least provide the screenshot in this thread. :)

Screenie (http://www.lethalwrestling.com/upload/twooferintelligence.JPG)

[afinemadness]

http://www.motherjones.com/news/featurex/2007/09/homeland-insecurity-myths-and-facts.html

A couple of responses to Alferd Packer from the comments section stood out. From "Disheartened":



It's official - copper, lead, aluminium and all the other non-ferrous metals no longer exist.

From Daniel Brady:

Quote:
Let us just focus on the twin towers. Let us use some basic logic and reasoning. It is clear that the towers did NOT collapse only because of the planes hitting them. First the buildings, as they stood, are symetrical systems. Second the planes "input" into these systems was asymetrical. The logical conclusion is that the "output" or the buildings collapse would also have to be asymetrical. The fact that the "output" was symetrical is proof that the planes "input" "did the job. It could not have. The towers could not have collapsed in the way they did unless there was "additional input" to make that happen. There is no escape from that logic. An even number plus an odd number always yeilds an odd number. That is a matter of mathematical simplicity, yet applying such pure reasoning has escaped almost everyone or so it would seem.

It's all so simple!

Dave

There are 2 threads asking about the dumbest claim. This could be a third one. This may not be a Stundie it may go beyond that and become a Malcolm.

[Alareth]

For the "tm", all you need is the "sup" tag.



Or you can just uses "Alt+0153" ™

[Belz...]

From Daniel Brady:

Let us just focus on the twin towers. Let us use some basic logic and reasoning. It is clear that the towers did NOT collapse only because of the planes hitting them. First the buildings, as they stood, are symetrical systems. Second the planes "input" into these systems was asymetrical. The logical conclusion is that the "output" or the buildings collapse would also have to be asymetrical. The fact that the "output" was symetrical is proof that the planes "input" "did the job. It could not have. The towers could not have collapsed in the way they did unless there was "additional input" to make that happen. There is no escape from that logic. An even number plus an odd number always yeilds an odd number. That is a matter of mathematical simplicity, yet applying such pure reasoning has escaped almost everyone or so it would seem.

Holy universal water canopy! Some people should admit their ignorance of the subject rather than fancy themselves experts and put three whole feet in their mouths like that.

[LashL]

For the "tm", all you need is the "sup" tag.

Thanks. I was experimenting to see if I could make the TM smaller in the superscript position by adding some other tag ~ and in the preview, it looked like it worked, but I didn't look again after posting it, and obviously, it did not work.

Or you can just uses "Alt+0153" ™

Aha, that's the look I was aiming for. Truth™ ~ Thanks!

Lash, I forwarded your post to Avery with the title "Keep up the good work!"


http://forums.randi.org/imagehosting/1110346e749b5b24ec.gif

[tacodaemon]

Forums newcomer "matrixcutter", one of those Bermas types who believe every conspiracy theory they hear, redefines the word "secretive" (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?postid=2959942#post2959942):

They are bringing in a global system, right out in the open, instead of having to rely on a series of interconnected organisations which control various national systems from behind the scenes, secretively (but technically not secretively, because they do publish information, but most people don't read it because it hasn't got Harry Potter in the title, or any sex/romance.)


Y'see, y'see, we know that they're keeping their nefarious plans secret, because friendly non-secretive organizations put bodice-ripping covers on their research reports and whitepapers, and they spice up the pages and pages of charts and graphs with the occasional sex scene or Quidditch match.

[dudalb]

I think Matrixcutter's whole "Microchip Implant" thread should be nominated. Seldom have I seen so much insanity in one thread.
Yeah,he never met a Conspiracy theory he did not like.
And,sadly,he makes libelious statements about groups ranging from The Catholic Church to the Masons.

[tacodaemon]

Y'see, y'see, we know that they're keeping their nefarious plans secret, because friendly non-secretive organizations put bodice-ripping covers on their research reports and whitepapers, and they spice up the pages and pages of charts and graphs with the occasional sex scene or Quidditch match.


Remember kids, a report from a shadowy, evil organization looks like this:

http://i9.tinypic.com/4ktxyfl.png


...while a report from a friendly, virtuous organization that operates openly looks like this:

http://i14.tinypic.com/66953lx.jpg

[Dave Rogers]

matrixcutter has been working hard to earn a nomination, and I think he's finally cleared the bar here.

If the NWO is as clever and all-pervasive as it's claimed to be and predates the League of Nations, why aren't we all walking around with chips in our heads today? :confused:

Because they have long-term agendas, with steps that they must go through one by one, including normalising certain behaviour e.g. the use of modern technologies, which may take several years. Steps cannot be missed out or bypassed, or rushed. The people at the top work in centuries. John Dee was talking about using things like "free trade" and "favoured nation status" to bring in a world system in the 16th century.

So the NWO has been planning to implant microchips in everyone's head since the 16th Century - and microelectronics was invented when?

Dave

[8den]

there goes any chance I had of my "People Didn't Melt" nomination winning

I symapthise I've had a couple of jems be taken out of the running by hope diamonds donated by other troofers.

Also I caught the OP by "Mark Dice" re bull horning n driving. Not that it matters, the important thing it got nominated. By Unsecured Coins. I'm fine. No. Really I am. fine. honest.

[tacodaemon]

I wonder if I should send that second "Rebuilding America's Defenses" cover I made to the PNAC to use for the next edition of the report.

[dudalb]

matrixcutter has been working hard to earn a nomination, and I think he's finally cleared the bar here.





So the NWO has been planning to implant microchips in everyone's head since the 16th Century - and microelectronics was invented when?

Dave

I am sure the answer would be that the NWO knew about these things centuries ago,but hid them until the proper moment.
I think matrixcutter might be the most "Out THere" CT I have yet seen on JREF.

[Digest]

Title:
My Theory:media Controlling U.s. Government Via, Multimedia/Mind Control 2 sites confirm

When watching C-SPAN last night, viewing Betrayus and Crocker, a thought crossed my mind : Why does this whole government seem to be a cast of actors?
There are some actors like Governor Arnold Swartzinegger, right? Well what if they are all just actors? Reading from a script, designed and carried out by the ones who are actually in charge? Not the government controlling the media but the other way around, the media, main stream, and movie industry controlling the government!

Linky:
http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=15676

[Alareth]

I think matrixcutter might be the most "Out THere" CT I have yet seen on JREF.


No, I'm going to have to go with Ace Baker for that title.

[jsfisher]

No, I'm going to have to go with Ace Baker for that title.


Ace can't hold a candle to Malcolm...and then there's ChristopherA...

[Civilized Worm]

nesNYC on why the twoofers have failed to produce any proper peer reviewed parers:


We're not talking about the latest trendy scientific hypothesis here, we're talking about a massive crime! This crime needs a real investigation and not some pin head devising a theory.

http://www.haloscan.com/comments.php?user=screwloosechange&comment=3171556274423319189#87757

[Crungy]

From the "Which truther has most hurt the "truth" movement?" thread.

The pancake theory is at least equally justifiable to controlled demolition.

There is so far no official explanation of what caused the collapse of WTC 7 so there isn't even a competing theory with CD.

These two statements show what an exercise in futility it is to have a rational debate with the truth crowd. To quote Kelly Bundy, "The mind wobbles."

[tacodaemon]

MaGZ demonstrates (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?postid=2961287#post2961287) his thoroughgoing knowledge of the people he hates so much:


That is why there is so much intermarriage with Gentiles. There are not enough plastic surgeons to go around and fix all the noses.

[Belz...]

Remember kids, a report from a shadowy, evil organization looks like this:

http://i9.tinypic.com/4ktxyfl.png


...while a report from a friendly, virtuous organization that operates openly looks like this:

http://i14.tinypic.com/66953lx.jpg

Well, it IS more of an attention-catcher. :D

[Belz...]

Title:
My Theory:media Controlling U.s. Government Via, Multimedia/Mind Control 2 sites confirm



Linky:
http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=15676

These truthers really like their "what if"'s, don't they ?

They're like kids in a summer camp, telling themselves horror stories around the campfire with a flashlight.

The difference is they believe it.

[Belz...]

From the "Which truther has most hurt the "truth" movement?" thread.



These two statements show what an exercise in futility it is to have a rational debate with the truth crowd. To quote Kelly Bundy, "The mind wobbles."

You need a link to make it eligible, I think.

[JonnyFive]

Remember kids, a report from a shadowy, evil organization looks like this:

http://i9.tinypic.com/4ktxyfl.png


...while a report from a friendly, virtuous organization that operates openly looks like this:

http://i14.tinypic.com/66953lx.jpg

Chapter 12: Absent a Catalyzing Event

Scarlett O'America watched Sam Patriot's broad shoulders heave as he steered the plow through the dark, rich soil. She had been watching him for some time, but he hadn't noticed, as he was deeply embroiled in the productive, wholesome labor of the land. She wanted to run to him, to throw her arms around his muscular frame and caress his full-bodied beard.

Her heart skipped a beat; he was walking towards her. She looked down and remembered that she had been sent to bring him a pitcher of water ten minutes ago. As Sam walked up to Scarlett, she took a quick breath and held the pitcher of water up a bit, beckoning him to come and slake his thirst with the cool, crisp water.

"Projects like the Joint Strike Fighter and Future Combat System are necessary for the American military to maintain its combat advantage in the years to come," she heard his deep, rich voice but could scarcely believe he was actually speaking to her.

As Sam took the water and drank, Scarlett found her voice and replied, "But, absent a catalyzing event, the process of change is likely to be a slow one."

Sam smiled at her; a knowing, friendly smile, and his voice rolled over Scarlett again, "But with proper planning and resource allocation, the future effectiveness of the American military can be ensured."

Scarlett felt faint. "Take me," she whispered, and she ripped open her dress.

[Horatius]

Two nominations in one. One Stundie, and one TLA. JonnyFive, that was great!

Now the Stundie:


Then people will find out that guns are powerless against far superior weaponry e.g. neutrino bombs.

[Dave Rogers]

Chapter 12: Absent a Catalyzing Event

Curse you, JonnyFive, you should mark that sort of thing NSFW! I nearly ruptured myself trying to keep a straight face!

Dave

[Belz...]

neutrino bombs

OH NO!!! They're going to bombard us with SO MANY neutrinos that it's going to ACTUALLY become dangerous.

I wonder how many supernovae they intend to cause in order to get that done!

[Dave Rogers]

Now the Stundie:


Originally Posted by matrixcutter http://forums.randi.org/helloworld2/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?p=2962453#post2962453)
Then people will find out that guns are powerless against far superior weaponry e.g. neutrino bombs.


Comment from your neighbourhood physicist: :jaw-dropp :jaw-dropp :jaw-dropp

Even better than neutron bombs - they don't harm people, yet leave buildings still standing!

Dave

[JonnyFive]

Two nominations in one. One Stundie, and one TLA. JonnyFive, that was great!

Thanks. :)

If there's an audience for Pokemon-themed erotic fanfiction, there's an audience for anything.

Curse you, JonnyFive, you should mark that sort of thing NSFW! I nearly ruptured myself trying to keep a straight face!

Just wait 'til you have to explain to your co-workers what you're laughing at. :D

[Horatius]

Comment from your neighbourhood physicist: :jaw-dropp :jaw-dropp :jaw-dropp

Even better than neutron bombs - they don't harm people, yet leave buildings still standing!

Dave



I'm not quite the physicist you are, but I at least know what a neutrino is. This reminds me of the patent application I worked on - the guy said he could see neutrinos!

[Dave Rogers]

This reminds me of the patent application I worked on - the guy said he could see neutrinos!

"Moving around like regular neutrons. They don't see each other. They only see what they want to see. They don't know they're neutrinos."

Dave

[Belz...]

If there's an audience for Pokemon-themed erotic fanfiction, there's an audience for anything.

Did you make that up or did humanity suddenly drop a notch in my view ?

[Sabrina]

Rule 34, Belz.

If it exists, there's porn of it somewhere on the internet.

I have yet to stump anyone when it comes to producing porn of something; something that has caused me a significant amount of mental anguish when confronted with some of the things people come up with. *shudders*

[JonnyFive]

Did you make that up or did humanity suddenly drop a notch in my view ?

I really wish I was just joking about that, but it's true.

There's a site called fanfiction.net that hosts a ton of fanfic, which is always good for a laugh. While they recently cleaned it up somewhat, they used to allow pretty much anything on, albeit with a rating system to filter content. Used to be that searching the Pokemon section for anything rated "NC-17" resulted in far too many hits.

Now, I don't know how many people were/are reading that crap as a serious venture, but there was enough interest in the subject for several people to devote large chunks of their time to writing it.

Sometimes I hate the internet, but it's mostly because it shows me that people can be real freaks. :)

[tacodaemon]

Sometimes I hate the internet, but it's mostly because it shows me that people can be real freaks. :)


It took me way too long to get the fake brass foil on that romance novel cover to look right, but your effort made it all worthwhile...

[dudalb]

The way matrixcutter is going with the woo,he might already qualify,only having been here a week,for a lifetime achievement award.

[Belz...]

Rule 34, Belz.

If it exists, there's porn of it somewhere on the internet.

Rule 34a: if you search for something on Google, you'll come up with porn, somehow.

Now, I don't know how many people were/are reading that crap as a serious venture, but there was enough interest in the subject for several people to devote large chunks of their time to writing it.

I can understand when they do it with 'people' from animated shows... but Pokémon ?

[lapman]

Can you nominate yourself for a stundie?

[Drudgewire]

I can understand when they do it with 'people' from animated shows... but Pokémon ?
It would horrify me, but I became pretty jaded after the first brush with Rugrats porn. http://www.lethalwrestling.com/upload/barf.gif

[JonnyFive]

It would horrify me, but I became pretty jaded after the first brush with Rugrats porn.

To me, Rugrats porn is worse than Pokemon porn (they are goddamn toddlers?! Are you people effing insane?!), but this is kind of like a contest of evil between Hitler and Super Hitler... they're not technically the same, but there's really no distinction on any kind of practical level.

[Alareth]

I'm still trying to scub the artwork involving dragons and cars that Skankarella found and shared in IRC the other night.

Curse you Jas!!!!

[JamesB]

Here are two nominations from Galileo in the SLC comments:

http://www.haloscan.com/comments.php?user=%20screwloosechange%20&comment=6097452767751585888

Dick Clark's Rocking WTC7 Countdown

Dude, there was a huge crowd of people chanting the WTC 7 countdown. With all those witnesses, what would be the point of constantly repeating the obvious.

The next thing you know Prison Planet will be calling JK Rowling a "mainstream journalist".

You've got to be kidding, comparing schlock journalism like Harry Potter to a masterwork like Loose Change.

[tacodaemon]

From the Seattle alt-weekly "The Stranger" (famous for being the point of origin of Dan Savage's weekly sex column), in an article (http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/Content?oid=309650) that concludes the twoofers are valuable because they question the Evil Bush Administration or something:

In many ways, Truthers represent a step forward, in part because of the high value they place on reason—nothing to sneeze at in a religious age.

[Bell]

I think they confuse reason with reason. The troofers reason is "9/11 was an inside job so the evil gubmint/j00s/NWO could take over the world". And indeed, they place high value on that.

[Hyperviolet]

8bitagent on alien propaganda, hitler, crop circles, nwo deception and child sacrifices.

While it's true everyone from Henry Kissinger to Gorbachev to General Macarthur to Reagan himself spoke of how if there was an "alien threat", people would have to come together under a one world government...leading people to think someday the nwo could stage a manufactured "alien" threat as the ultimate false flag....

.......

I dont believe that aliens are
at all intergalactic "aliens", nor government black budget projects. The phenomenon is too widespread, and too wild for that.
No, I believe theres a much darker and troubling explanation.
Why do so many crop circles are of very occult symbolism?

One that shows WHY elites like Adolf Hitler had a keen interest in UFOs, and believed that he was being controlled by an extraterrestrial, not unlike Crowley.
....

Now I am no Christian, but this fits the pattern of exactly what the global elites behind 9/11, child sacrifices, globalization, war, genocide, etc are into.
It's all about deception, trickery, deceit, and leading people down the path of false religions and false promises.

http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=14793


EDIT: Arghh damn, i see this was actually posted on August 31st. Does this mean it's void?
:(

[jsfisher]

Can you nominate yourself for a stundie?


No. Your own nomination, in and of itself, would be a contradiction of true Stundieism. You could not nominate yourself. That might be sufficient. But as soon as you nominate yourself, recognizing the insanity, then how can we believe you are insane?

Twisted, I know, but thems the rules.

[defaultdotxbe]

EDIT: Arghh damn, i see this was actually posted on August 31st. Does this mean it's void?
:(
no it should be fine, as long as it wasnt nominated last month

[Crungy]

As was pointed out to me, I forgot to provide a link in my intial post. So here's the linky...

From the "Which truther has most hurt the "truth" movement?" thread.

http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?p=2961112#post2961112

The pancake theory is at least equally justifiable to controlled demolition.

There is so far no official explanation of what caused the collapse of WTC 7 so there isn't even a competing theory with CD.

These two statements show what an exercise in futility it is to have a rational debate with the truth crowd. To quote Kelly Bundy, "The mind wobbles."

[Digest]

I WIN!!!! I WIN!!!!

Title:

I Was Thinking This Morning (early) That Dylan, Could be a U.S. President when 35y.o

Snippet:

I had to wake up real early this morning and was thinking about the weeks events and something crossed my mind : It was the topic about dylan not wanting to "Lead" in the 911 or related subject of 911, but it was said, (Idon't know who or where I heard this will have to think for a while), that he wanted to be a Director of films or something like that.
And I more or less said to myself, I bet he might or could be president some day if he wished, along with his other friends on the loose change crew.

I know I would trust him to be our President.

Who else seconds the motion, here, here.

Hey I'm not joking.
I think he could hands down, all jokes aside. Really.

even earlier if the law was changed to be President under 35.
The law could be changed.

linky:
http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=15770

[JamesB]

Damn, I was just coming here to nominate that one. You beat me to it.

[Drudgewire]

I WIN!!!! I WIN!!!!

Title:

I Was Thinking This Morning (early) That Dylan, Could be a U.S. President when 35y.o

To quote the days of politically incorrect cartoons:

"Now I've seen everything." http://www.lethalwrestling.com/upload/suicide.gif

[Redtail]

Rule 34a: if you search for something on Google, you'll come up with porn, somehow.


{derail}When I was in grad school one of my fellow grads decided to google Dick's Sporting Goods. He typed in "dicks" and figuring that since Dick's Sporting Goods is the biggest sporting store he knew he clicked on the first link without looking. The computer did not have a pop up blocker. Hilarity ensued.{/derail}

[Gravy]

I WIN!!!! I WIN!!!!

Title:

I Was Thinking This Morning (early) That Dylan, Could be a U.S. President when 35y.oNormally I'd say wait until the end of the month, but there's no doubt in my mind that you did win! There's no need for a September vote.

Think of the billions the U.S. could save on defense if Avery were president. He'd just instruct the military to laugh in the face of the enemy.

[Digest]

Normally I'd say wait until the end of the month, but there's no doubt in my mind that you did win! There's no need for a September vote.

Think of the billions the U.S. could save on defense if Avery were president. He'd just instruct the military to laugh in the face of the enemy.


I already have cleared off a spot on the mantle...I figured it would look perfect right next to my Jew of the Year award from the ADL.

[Bell]

I hope Dylan becomes president! Really!

That way he can spill the beans on where Elvis is locked up!

[chippy]

Caracho, in response to my comment that the collapse of the twin towers was slower than free fall speed:

yeah maybe like 5 seconds more than freefall, YOU WOULD EXPECT ALOT MORE THAN THAT IF YOU DROPPED 2 CARS ON TOP 8 OTHER CARS THEY WOULD ALL JUST VANISH INTO DUST IN 10-15 SECONDS RIGHT! LOL

http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=15784&st=0#entry14588588

Yes, 2 cars falling on 8 cars is exactly like the collapse of one of the heaviest structures in the entire world.

[chippy]

Oh man, this one is even better! Once again, Caracho, this time on the work done by controlled demolition companies:

so why do controlled demoltion companies even exist?, just bomb a few floors and gravity will make the building vanish within 10- 20 seconds. LOL

His supporting statement, a few posts later:

they dont wire only 10% of the building, they place charges on like every other floor, fool.

http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=15784

I love it.

[Dog Town]

An excited SLC blogger,Boris Epstein,commenting on the availability, of voice morphing.
Too bad the creator of that technology says you're full of s*^t.
CHF | 09.15.07 - 12:29 pm | #


Nomination>>>Ala, Boris
who would that be? And why there would be only one such creator?


Only One Such Creator? Is that a question? REALLY?
http://www.haloscan.com/comments.php?user= screwloosechange &comment=2804369033405755703

[JonnyFive]

But Dylan can't become US President. To do that, he'd have to join the Bohemian Grove and worship Moloc or something, and I don't think Alex Jones will allow that.

[Travis]

The day Dylan becomes President is the day I immigrate to Australia taking all the dollars (that go up in value after the economy collapses) gold, silver, twine and other essentials of survival with me.

[uk_dave]

The day Dylan becomes President is the day I immigrate to Australia taking all the dollars (that go up in value after the economy collapses) gold, silver, twine and other essentials of survival with me.

At first I read that as 'twins' and thought now that's a party! :D

ummmmm ahem :blush:

[Disbelief]

The day Dylan becomes President is the day I immigrate to Australia taking all the dollars (that go up in value after the economy collapses) gold, silver, twine and other essentials of survival with me.

Won't we be trading in Ameros by then?

[JonnyFive]

Won't we be trading in Ameros by then?

I keep telling you people, Pan-American SuperMoneyMoney is a better name for them.

Or do we have to wait until we absorb Canada and most of South America before we can use that name?

[Disbelief]

I keep telling you people, Pan-American SuperMoneyMoney is a better name for them.

Or do we have to wait until we absorb Canada and most of South America before we can use that name?

That's in the next ten years of the step-by-step plan. I forgot, will we be speaking Esperanta (?) by then?