Hardfire Call-In Show

[pomeroo]

The program we aired live on Tuesday is now on YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rig2VkiDQCM).

[leftysergeant]

You are so patient with some of your callers! The fire fighter who called in seemed a little traumatized, so I will be charitable too, for now in my opinion of him.

But I was wondering about the demolition project that he thought looked suspicious. Could you give us some idea what that was about? What has a small commercial demolition job to do with something so major? Could it even prove some principle of demolition that might counter the CT on the towers?

[uk_dave]

You are so patient with some of your callers! The fire fighter who called in seemed a little traumatized, so I will be charitable too, for now in my opinion of him.

But I was wondering about the demolition project that he thought looked suspicious. Could you give us some idea what that was about? What has a small commercial demolition job to do with something so major? Could it even prove some principle of demolition that might counter the CT on the towers?

You really REALLY do not want to know this. Trust me. Your mind will become boggled.

Let's just say that the individual in question is seriously traumatised and is prone to some extreme delusions.

[~enigma~]

You really REALLY do not want to know this. Trust me. Your mind will become boggled.

Let's just say that the individual in question is seriously traumatised and is prone to some extreme delusions.
Not for nothing but his "Indian Point" lunacy follows the script of Air Panic almost to a tee.

[Gravy]

You are so patient with some of your callers! The fire fighter who called in seemed a little traumatized, so I will be charitable too, for now in my opinion of him.He's not really a firefighter. He's a sometime volunteer communications worker with the FDNY Auxiliary, which is a civil defense organization that can be called on in emergencies. He is also completely batpoo crazy. He is pictured in the History Channel conspiracy documentary arguing against the truthers in 2005 and arguing with them in 2007. I'm sure the producers didn't realize it was the same person (he's lost a lot of weight). You can search his posts here as "Sentinel." He was banned for being abusive.

But I was wondering about the demolition project that he thought looked suspicious. Could you give us some idea what that was about? What has a small commercial demolition job to do with something so major? Could it even prove some principle of demolition that might counter the CT on the towers?Paul Isaac has been corrected about that more than once here. It was a well-publicized demolition of two big old gas tanks, contracted by Keyspan Energy. It has nothing to do with 9/11, and the structures are not analagous to the towers. The Loose Change idiots picked up that "evidence" from this nutjob in 2005 and stuck it in Loose Change Second Edition without doing five minutes of fact checking. Then they didn't credit him and he went on a prolonged internet tirade against them.

[Hyperviolet]

Isaac was against the truthers.... then switched sides? Is that what happened?

Or was he always a truther but just didn't like the idea of protesting on the anniversary?

[Gravy]

Or was he always a truther but just didn't like the idea of protesting on the anniversary?Ding!Ding!Ding!

He's not an ordinary truther, though. His claims are a disconnected mishmash of nonsense.........oh, wait.

[Hyperviolet]

What exactly is it he is asking you to do with him next week?
It seemed rather bizarre.

That is, if you don't mind giving that out, of course.

[CHF]

That second caller was a complete joke.

Mark: What's your source on that?
Caller: Huh?
Mark: What's your source on that?
Caller: What's my source on that?
Mark: Yeah, the 6 million barrels a day out of Iraq...
Caller: Well...perhaps you don't read the international press...Where's your information from, the CIA?

These people just make it up as they go.

[Civilized Worm]

What exactly is it he is asking you to do with him next week?
It seemed rather bizarre.

That is, if you don't mind giving that out, of course.


It sounded like he was asking him out.

[Hyperviolet]

It sounded like he was asking him out.


:jaw-dropp

oh my gawd

[The Doc]

I'm watching it now :)

This first caller is jumping from subject to subject insanely lol.

[The Doc]

Just finished watching. I would love to see another one of these shows.

[T.A.M.]

Paul is a well intentioned man, who speaks from his heart and from emotion. Unfortunately, because of this, he has allowed himself to be misguided, likely because of a dislike for Guiliani and the govt...IMO.

Great show guys.

Any chance of doing a show with questions from the internet via a chat, or email???

TAM:)

[Gravy]

Paul is a well intentioned man, who speaks from his heart and from emotion. Unfortunately, because of this, he has allowed himself to be misguided, likely because of a dislike for Guiliani and the govt...IMO.I think he's ill. The Brooklyn Public Library? The Maspeth gas tank demolition? These are the products of a troubled mind. I think his problems go back long before 9/11. If he is well-intentioned, why does he insist that I am not a tour guide and that I am a paid government agent? He says this to my face, by the way. Dude ain't right.

Great show guys.

Any chance of doing a show with questions from the internet via a chat, or email???

TAM:)Thanks! Unfortunately we didn't have to do much, but if we do it again it will hopefully be more interactive. I'm not crazy about the live chat idea, but questions via email is a great idea, especially if the studio isn't able to get more phone lines hooked up.

[uk_dave]

That second caller was a complete joke.

Mark: What's your source on that?
Caller: Huh?
Mark: What's your source on that?
Caller: What's my source on that?
Mark: Yeah, the 6 million barrels a day out of Iraq...
Caller: Well...perhaps you don't read the international press...Where's your information from, the CIA?

These people just make it up as they go.


You need more space to accurately convey just how stumped that caller was at being asked for his sources.....

Caller: Well.................. .......................................... ..............................
................perhaps you don't read the international press..................... ............................. .........................
..................Where's your information from, the CIA?

[nicepants]

LOL that was great. Great work, guys! I only wish your shows were a full hour instead of just 30.

PLEASE do another one of these.

I would suggest picking a somewhat narrow subject so that you don't have these moronic CTers spouting off lie after lie in rapid succession. (On second thought, that's going to happen regardless of the topic)

That last caller took the cake...Exxon Mobil owns the president! LOL

[A-Train]

It only takes Ronald Wieck 80 seconds to set the fraudulent tone of the whole discussion:

"If I thought that George Bush and Dick Cheney masterminded the deaths of 3000 civilians, why on earth would I want them to get away with it?"It is a common tactic of defenders of the official story to pronounce that truth activists believe the attacks were "masterminded" by Bush and Cheney. Having set up this straw man, they relentlessly knock it down, while excluding other more probable theories.

I'd like to see these two contend with the much more likely possiblity that the attacks were masterminded by a professional intelligence agency overseas; with Cheney guilty of no more than passive complicity; and Bush completely oblivious.

[Par]

All right.

"If I thought that George Bush and Dick Cheney a professional intelligence agency overseas masterminded the deaths of 3000 civilians, why on earth would I want them to get away with it?"

[Slayhamlet]

It only takes Ronald Wieck 80 seconds to set the fraudulent tone of the whole discussion:

It is a common tactic of defenders of the official story to pronounce that truth activists believe the attacks were "masterminded" by Bush and Cheney. Having set up this straw man, they relentlessly knock it down, while excluding other more probable theories.

I'd like to see these two contend with the much more likely possiblity that the attacks were masterminded by a professional intelligence agency overseas; with Cheney guilty of no more than passive complicity; and Bush completely oblivious.

Sorry, the vast majority of Truthers believe Bush and Cheney to have a central role in their imaginary conspiracy. Only the marginalized anti-Semitic nuts go with the "Jews/Israelis did it" canard. Attacking the most prominent theory is most certainly not a strawman argument.

PS: Have you posted your theories at Stormfront yet?

[Civilized Worm]

That's a strawman! We don't think the jews did it we think the space lizards did it!

[ckent2]

I loved the show... remarkably entertaining. The Paul caller definitely sounded "special." I was listening to the show, working at the same time, and when I heard him go off on his "Brooklyn Library" tangent, I had to stop the playback and rewind it... I was certain I had missed something. Nope...

And the last caller was priceless. Such wonderful unintentional comedy.

[T.A.M.]

welcome to the forum ckent2

TAM:)

[ckent2]

Thanks. I'm a long time lurker. Good to finally show my face, so to speak.

[mjd1982]

It only takes Ronald Wieck 80 seconds to set the fraudulent tone of the whole discussion:

It is a common tactic of defenders of the official story to pronounce that truth activists believe the attacks were "masterminded" by Bush and Cheney. Having set up this straw man, they relentlessly knock it down, while excluding other more probable theories.

I'd like to see these two contend with the much more likely possiblity that the attacks were masterminded by a professional intelligence agency overseas; with Cheney guilty of no more than passive complicity; and Bush completely oblivious.
Well, and also the obvious nonsense that we are well aware he/they dont think Bush et al did it, which is the point.

A ridiculous thing for him to say.

[DGM]

Well, and also the obvious nonsense that we are well aware he/they dont think Bush et al did it, which is the point.

A ridiculous thing for him to say.
Obvious how? This was a televised public program. The whole world knows his view? Think!

[Civilized Worm]

Many twoofer accuse us of knowing that Bush (or whoever) did it but trying to cover up for them.

[ckent2]

Many twoofer accuse us of knowing that Bush (or whoever) did it but trying to cover up for them.

Yeah, I don't know about you, but I'm close friends with the prez. I call him G.W. He calls me Hoss.

[pomeroo]

It only takes Ronald Wieck 80 seconds to set the fraudulent tone of the whole discussion:

It is a common tactic of defenders of the official story to pronounce that truth activists believe the attacks were "masterminded" by Bush and Cheney. Having set up this straw man, they relentlessly knock it down, while excluding other more probable theories.

I'd like to see these two contend with the much more likely possiblity that the attacks were masterminded by a professional intelligence agency overseas; with Cheney guilty of no more than passive complicity; and Bush completely oblivious.


My mistake. Your imaginary agency would have the necessary clout to cow into silence those thousands of researchers, forensic examiners, air traffic controllers, demolition specialists, seismologists, police and fire departments, the Boeing Corporation, United Airlines, American Airlines, the FBI, NORAD, the FAA...

Yup, your fantasy is a "much more likely possiblity [sic]" than the Bush/Cheney operation the other loons rave about. I can see that I'd have to get up pretty early in the morning to slip anything past you. You seem to have a nose for "probable theories."