View Full Version : Abortion clinic murder looks forward to reward in heaven
a_unique_person
2nd September 2003, 08:19 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2003/LAW/09/02/abortion.execution.ap/index.html
Wonder what rewards he was hoping for. All the virgins will be taken already.
peptoabysmal
2nd September 2003, 09:15 PM
Is it me, or does the picture in the story look a little like our old friend Jedi Knight?
subgenius
2nd September 2003, 11:20 PM
Thank Bob for the Onion archives:
"JAHANNEM, OUTER DARKNESS—The hijackers who carried out the Sept. 11 attacks on the World Trade Center and Pentagon expressed confusion and surprise Monday to find themselves in the lowest plane of Na'ar, Islam's Hell.
"I was promised I would spend eternity in Paradise, being fed honeyed cakes by 67 virgins in a tree-lined garden, if only I would fly the airplane into one of the Twin Towers," said Mohammed Atta, one of the hijackers of American Airlines Flight 11, between attempts to vomit up the wasps, hornets, and live coals infesting his stomach. "But instead, I am fed the boiling feces of traitors by malicious, laughing Ifrit. Is this to be my reward for destroying the enemies of my faith?"
http://www.theonion.com/onion3734/hijackers_surprised.html
Read the whole article for the most poignant, funny comment on the religious aspects of 9-11.
Applicable to all who kill in the name of their lord, such as the true believer in this case.
Ove
3rd September 2003, 01:45 AM
"We're very concerned that Paul Hill's call for violence may be picked up by any person to whom God speaks," said Abe Bonowitz, the head of Floridians for Alternatives to the Death Penalty. "That could be prevented. It should be."
Can't they just get Dubya to ask his pal God to keep quiet??;)
Mr Manifesto
3rd September 2003, 02:00 AM
More proof that Christians are terrorists who want to destroy the West.
richardm
3rd September 2003, 03:33 AM
To me, the strangest thing about that case is that this fellow is a convicted murderer, and on the eve of his execution they're letting him hold a press conference. Whatever for?
The Don
3rd September 2003, 04:18 AM
Could someone please explain to me the difference between someone to whom God has spoken to persuade them to kill and somebody who just hears the voices ?
repairman
3rd September 2003, 04:44 AM
Yea you could have knocked me over with a feather when I saw that piece of cr@p on TV last night calling for others to take up arms and follow his example. He even said he would he happy if his son were to do the same thing. We would never give an Islamic terrorist a platform to recruit more terrerists, but our illustrious Gov. Shrub thought it OK for this terrorist.:mad:
Silicon
3rd September 2003, 09:00 AM
That's an OUTRAGE. WHY do they give a murderer air time?!!?
That's just appalling.
Crossbow
3rd September 2003, 09:12 AM
I sincerely doubt that President Bush will be calling Hill an 'enemy of the civilized world' as he likes to do when the terrorists are of the Muslim faith.
Upchurch
3rd September 2003, 09:37 AM
Originally posted by Crossbow
I sincerely doubt that President Bush will be calling Hill an 'enemy of the civilized world' as he likes to do when the terrorists are of the Muslim faith. Agreed.
Why isn't Homeland Security investigating these fanatical right-to-lifers? Aren't they terrorists as well?
Oh, wait. That's right. The First Amendment. Why then, does it apply to terrorists of the Christian faith in this country but not to the terrorists of Muslim faith in this country? hm...
BobK
3rd September 2003, 09:38 AM
He thinks he's going to heaven???
Maybe someone should point out to him that by not appealing the sentence, which would have extended his life, his god in all likelihood considers him to be commiting suicide.
Pleasant thought anyway.
Brown
3rd September 2003, 09:38 AM
I feel about this guy's final words the way I felt about Tim McVeigh's last words. I didn't really give a $#!+ what that walking nodule of dung had to say, either.
I listened to 'em, and I said, "Okay, you've had your last words. Good-bye."
jimlintott
3rd September 2003, 09:51 AM
I'm confused. Again!
So, you can violate one of the ten commandments and still go to heaven?
I'll never understand that silly religion.
Brown
3rd September 2003, 10:10 AM
Originally posted by jimlintott
I'm confused. Again!
So, you can violate one of the ten commandments and still go to heaven?Hold onto your hat, but according to some theologians, you can violate as many commandments as there are (along with any number of other divine laws), and you can still get into heaven. All you have to do is ask forgiveness from Jesus, and he'll give it to you.
Don't bother apologizing to the people you've hurt. This is not a prerequisite to getting into heaven. Just ask forgiveness from Jesus.
Don't reimburse the people who have been damaged by your actions. Just ask forgiveness from Jesus.
Don't return the property you stole. Just ask forgiveness from Jesus.
Don't undo the damage caused by the lies you told. Just ask forgiveness from Jesus.
Don't make up to your spouse for your infidelity. Just ask forgiveness from Jesus.
Don't express regret for your rudeness to others. Just ask forgiveness from Jesus.
Logically and morally speaking, if one commits a sin that hurts another person, the one who ought to have the power to grant forgiveness is the person who has been hurt. As a matter of logic and moral justice, one should not be allowed exoneration from wrongdoing merely by muttering "magic words."
But there we go again, trying to apply logic and morality to religion.
I should add that some Christian groups emphasize the importance of a sinner making things right with the persons who have been affected by the wrongdoing. Making things right with those who have been hurt, however, is not a prerequisite to entry into Paradise.
Bentspoon
3rd September 2003, 11:15 AM
That is the most pressing question on this entire thread.
Why this guy? What makes him different?
It is his cause and I think that though many christians will react in horror at what he did and would never do such a thing themselves, many would secretly applaud it. There are many and one was in control here. That person arranged for this and probably did it because the message was righteous. When you are righteous, you can do no wrong.
Just the purest speculation on my part.
But why?
Bentspoon
HarryKeogh
3rd September 2003, 12:17 PM
Originally posted by Brown
Logically and morally speaking, if one commits a sin that hurts another person, the one who ought to have the power to grant forgiveness is the person who has been hurt. As a matter of logic and moral justice, one should not be allowed exoneration from wrongdoing merely by muttering "magic words."
But there we go again, trying to apply logic and morality to religion.
I should add that some Christian groups emphasize the importance of a sinner making things right with the persons who have been affected by the wrongdoing. Making things right with those who have been hurt, however, is not a prerequisite to entry into Paradise.
Brown, well said. (as usual)
Ipecac
3rd September 2003, 01:43 PM
He looks forward to his reward in heaven.
I look forward to him being dead.
I see the execution as a win/win situation.
SRW
3rd September 2003, 02:45 PM
Originally posted by Upchurch
Why isn't Homeland Security investigating these fanatical right-to-lifers? Aren't they terrorists as well?
Are you sure that they are not investigating them? I do not know about Homeland Security but I know for a fact that the FBI has been investigating anti-abortion groups. And some other domestic fanatics.
So besides catching and killing them like they did with this guy, what are you suggesting?
Ove
3rd September 2003, 10:33 PM
I see the execution as a win/win situation.
Unfortunately it isn't. He will forever stand out as a martyr for his cause and he'll inspire a lot of other people to do the same. If he had been locked up forever and just kept out of the media he would have been forgotten (he was until this press conference what bumbling idiot arranged that??). Now he is certain to inspire a lot of others.:mad:
But on another note, the guy was obviously insane. Did you see his eyes? He was stark raving mad.:crazy:
subgenius
3rd September 2003, 10:58 PM
I didn't know he was given a press conference.
This issue should be followed up to the max.
Zep
3rd September 2003, 11:02 PM
I suggest he be sentenced to life in purgatory, not death in any so-called "heaven".
For the rest of his life, he should be made to face the results of his fanaticism.
For the rest of his life, he should be made to listen to the sorrow and pain he has caused families for his belief's stupidities. It should be on a tape that plays endlessly through the night in his cell.
For the rest of his life, he should be made to work where the results of his belief's stupidities hit hardest - morgue attendant, perhaps.
Death is too good for him.
MRC_Hans
3rd September 2003, 11:12 PM
Well, if he goes to Heaven, that's one more reason not to want to go there. :rolleyes:
Hans
athon
4th September 2003, 12:28 AM
I once had an idea for a story where Hell was essentially full of religious people who thought they were going to Heaven, but did some criminal act in the name of religion, which God hates. They get p*ssed at God because they are essentially 'duped', and turn against him more than any atheist could.
Gives more of a reason why Hell would rise against Heaven.
Athon
Ove
4th September 2003, 01:09 AM
Devil: "And over here we have the Christians, could you please line up here"? "Ahh yes, im sorry....... you see the Jews were right".
"Next we have all the people who have seen "The life of Brian" "... "No i'm sorry he don't have a sense of humour".
:dl: :dl:
a_unique_person
4th September 2003, 05:16 PM
http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2003/09/04/1062548961022.html
1. Good reason for not having the death penalty, it only makes a martyr of him.
2. Having a press conference in which he urges more people to kill.
Nine years after he calmly shot and killed an abortion doctor and his bodyguard outside a Florida clinic, Paul Jennings Hill has died by lethal injection. His supporters yesterday described him as a martyr and warned that they might repeat his actions.
Hill, 49, a former Presbyterian minister, is the first killer of an abortion provider to be executed in the US.
He had not tried to prevent his death, which took place at Florida State Prison, just after 6pm on Wednesday local time as lightning flashed across a nearly black sky.
Abortion advocates fear what Hill's followers have hinted at for months: that his death will spur a wave of violence against abortion clinics.
Addressing reporters in a final interview on Tuesday, Hill made the same prediction.
"I believe in the short and long term, more and more people will act on the principles for which I stand," he said.
Hill also said that while it was not his choice to die, "I'm willing and I feel very honoured that they are most likely going to kill me for what I did".
Last month, Florida Attorney-General Charlie Crist and two prison officials received death threats in letters that contained bullets.
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