9/11, Ed Brown and We Are Change

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The recent We Are Change “truthfest” announced that one of the featured speakers would be anti-tax nut and convicted felon Ed Brown. Does anyone know if Ed spoke his manifesto? It would have been over the phone of course, due to the fact he’s been barricaded in his home for months to avoid arrest.

Yesterday four Brown supporters were arrested and charged with obstruction of justice and various weapons charges.

The four men, who were arrested outside of New Hampshire, include Cirino Gonzalez, the longtime Brown blogger who boasted of bringing a .50-caliber rifle to the house; Daniel Riley, the Albany electrician who was Tasered by marshals in June after stumbling upon a surveillance team while walking the Browns' dog. The other two men are Robert Wolffe and Jason Gerhard.

The four men have all spent time at the Browns' fortified concrete home over the last eight months while the couple has refused to surrender to authorities.

Might Luke Rudowski be next?

In the photo below (from left to right) are Jason Gerhard (wearing a rifle on his right shoulder), Cirino Gonzalez (weapon over left shoulder), Ed Brown, and Luke Rudowski.
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p78/altf4_photo/brownsupport.jpg

Then today:

A pipe bomb was seized at the home of one of four men arrested Wednesday on charges of aiding two fugitive tax resisters, law enforcement authorities said. The bomb, a rifle, ammunition and anti-government literature were found during a raid on the basement bedroom of Jason Gerhard, 22, in Brookhaven, N.Y., the authorities said.

Why is John Feal and others who say they are raising money for 9/11 first responders associating with We Are Change who supports Ed Brown, a man who has said on many occasions he will shoot any law enforcement officials who attempt to arrest him?

Last time I looked many, many first responders are/were working in law enforcement.

Mod, sorry...not sure if this belongs in conspiracy or not.

Links:
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/14/nyregion/14bomb.html?ref=nyregion
http://www.concordmonitor.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070913/FRONTPAGE/709130379

[SpaceMonkeyZero]

It's certainly a CT that people think the 16th Amendment was never ratified.

[Drudgewire]

We Are Change who supports Ed Brown, a man who has said on many occasions he will shoot any law enforcement officials who attempt to arrest him?

Arrests...include Cirino Gonzalez, the longtime Brown blogger who boasted of bringing a .50-caliber rifle to the house

Well, there's your proof wearechange doesn't have their Department of Intelligence up and running yet. :D

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Here's some details on the acutal charges:

Of the four men arrested, Gerhard was charged with the most crimes: conspiracy to impede an officer of the United States, conspiracy to commit an offense against the United States, accessory after the fact and five counts of possession of a firearm in furtherance of a crime of violence. According to his grand jury indictment, which was unsealed yesterday, Gerhard is accused of working with other Brown supporters to install surveillance systems on the property and of purchasing a number of firearms, including two .50-caliber rifles, weapons capable of piercing tanks and body armor, in addition to making statements supporting their threats against law enforcement figures. According to the U.S. marshal, three of those charges carry mandatory minimum sentences of 25 years in prison.

I wonder how Luke would like it if someone followed him around with a video camera and screamed these indictments in his face?

Linky: http://www.concordmonitor.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070914/FRONTPAGE/709140384

[nlarosa]

I asked Feal why he supports the truth movement and his reply was he has nothing against anyone asking questions.

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I asked Feal why he supports the truth movement and his reply was he has nothing against anyone asking questions.

Asking questions is one thing, a .50 caliber rifle and pipe bombs is something else entirely.

[T.A.M.]

I would suspect he (Feal) was given a very softened version of the "truth movement" along the lines of...

"We, like so many family members from the victims that days, are simply asking questions about various aspects of the attacks."

I suspect if he knew the full depth of depravity and dispicableness that is involved in the movement, he would re-think.

TAM:)

[Alt+F4]

I suspect if he knew the full depth of depravity and dispicableness that is involved in the movement, he would re-think.

TAM:)

If we can figure it out why can't he and everyone else associated with We Are Change?

[Viper Daimao]

Anyone else see trouble if the truthers start merging with these anti-tax, anti-govt nuts? The anti-tax, anti-govt nuts have the guns and training, the truthers have the angry disaffected youth. This could spell trouble along the lines of Timothy McVeigh.

[Drudgewire]

This could spell trouble along the lines of Timothy McVeigh.

You mean more NWO patsies?? :eek:

[Viper Daimao]

You mean more NWO patsies?? :eek:

You're right, ole timmy was a once in a lifetime patsy. He not only planned it, did it, admitted to doing it, and acted proud of it, he had friends that corroborated his story, all the while never once intimating that it was the nWo behind it all.

What a trooper.

[dudalb]

You're right, ole timmy was a once in a lifetime patsy. He not only planned it, did it, admitted to doing it, and acted proud of it, he had friends that corroborated his story, all the while never once intimating that it was the nWo behind it all.

What a trooper.

Yeah,he took the needle for the NWO....

[LashL]

<snip>the basement bedroom of Jason Gerhard, 22,

Well, that comes as no surprise...

[Alt+F4]

I wonder if they are going to request a free lawyer paid by tax dollars.

[Alferd_Packer]

From the N.Y. Times:

The bomb, a rifle, ammunition and anti-government literature were found during a raid on the basement bedroom of Jason Gerhard, 22, in Brookhaven, N.Y.,

Uh, Oh, Mom's going to be mad, the cops tracked mud all over the basement floor.

How do I get the laughing dog up?

LOL

ETA, Damn Lash you beat me to it. LOL

[~enigma~]

Well, that comes as no surprise...
I was gonna LOL but that hurts my incision :)

[nlarosa]

wasn't Luke running a fund raiser for the Browns?

[T.A.M.]

you know what really rots me about most of these anti-tax guys...

They could care less about whether it is constitutional or not, whether it violates their rights...

They are all basically greedy a-holes who want to have all of their earnings free and clear, without giving back...IMO.

Harsh, but I think it is true.

TAM:)

[Arkan_Wolfshade]

you know what really rots me about most of these anti-tax guys...

They could care less about whether it is constitutional or not, whether it violates their rights...

They are all basically greedy a-holes who want to have all of their earnings free and clear, without giving back...IMO.

Harsh, but I think it is true.

TAM:)
What, apparently, doesn't click in their minds is that if the Fed isn't collecting taxes to pay for roads, SS, Medicare, etc; then they would be footing the cost as individuals (true libertarianism at the local level). They want to eat their cake and have it too.

[nlarosa]

http://www.makethestand.com/

Has a video of the call from Ed Brown at the truther event from wearechange.

It sounds like he wants to start a revolution and is recruiting members for it at the truther event.

[Alferd_Packer]

update:

September 20

Jason Gerhard, one of four supporters of Ed and Elaine Brown arrested last week, faces a maximum sentence of more than 125 years if he is convicted on all charges.

Gerhard, 22, of Brookhaven, N.Y., was arraigned yesterday on an updated indictment that charges him with nine federal felonies.


http://www.concordmonitor.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070921/NEWS01/709210366/1043/NEWS01

Jason Gerhard of Brookhaven, New York, 22, is facing two counts of conspiracy, one count of being an accessory and several charges related to possession of a firearm.


http://www.seacoastonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070921/NEWS/709210460

What's that? He is part of a conspiracy?

[leftysergeant]

Da Twoof IS the conspiracy.

[dudalb]

http://www.makethestand.com/

Has a video of the call from Ed Brown at the truther event from wearechange.

It sounds like he wants to start a revolution and is recruiting members for it at the truther event.

Why the hell would any halfway competent revolutionary WANT to have a bunch of loosers like the Truthers in his circle?

[Alferd_Packer]

Well it sounds like the truthers have finally managed a self fufilling prophacy.

You have to figure they are on some FBI radar screen by now.

[leftysergeant]

Why the hell would any halfway competent revolutionary WANT to have a bunch of loosers like the Truthers in his circle?

Have you read The Turner Diaries? They know they will not have the numbers by themselves to overhrow our civilization, so they need a bunch of useful idiots as bullet catchers.

Picture this: They send the howling monkeys into the streets demanding their rights, plant a few bombs here and there while the cops are busy whacking on Jason and Dylan, then scream about the bombs being an inside job to draw attention away from what they did to the poor little twoofer snot.

Now you have a whole lot of civil libertarians angry enough to rush to the barricades in support of the poor, persecuted twoofers while the Organization goes about more false-flag operations, perhapsp laying the blame back on the twoofers. Not to worry if a few twoofers get whacked. The Organization can recruit replacements for them, just because the public will be turning against the Establishment with every head crushed by a police baton.

Kind of like the way the Army is finding it impossible to kill off all the insurgents in iraq right now.

[nlarosa]

Why the hell would any halfway competent revolutionary WANT to have a bunch of loosers like the Truthers in his circle?

Ask Ed Brown that, did you listen to his speech?