My view of the world rather boring and sad

[waterwater]

We use to be monkeys and we evolved into humans.
We help each other, but there is evil in the world…is just like a monkey not agreeing with anthor monkey.
There is talent like a monkey who swing from branches really well or a monkey who will never be able to climb or a monkey that has work hard and now to swing from branches as well as the talented monkey.
Like clever humans, hard working humans disabled humans.

Then humans die and that is the end of there life…all the emotion they have in life doesn’t really mean anything.
What is the meaning behind life nothing?

Anything strange that happens is a coincidence

Psychologists and scientists work to help humans have a better life on earth.

Like monkeys may work together how to get more food from there trainer...

Life seems pointless…even though just like any other human it’s not at the moment.

Of the monkey theory is true why are there still monkeys…why didn’t any other animals evolved and why haven’t humans evolved into super humans?

How was the first ever human made or the first ever animal.

[Gravy]

We "use [sic] to be monkeys?" Speak for yourself. What do trolls evolve into?

[TragicMonkey]

Darling, embrace your inner monkey. It's riotously entertaining. And believe me, the people who run that Chick-fil-a will never, ever mess up my order again.

[logical muse]

Of the monkey theory is true why are there still monkeys…why didn’t any other animals evolved and why haven’t humans evolved into super humans?


The monkey theory. :D

Can we be friends?

Oh, and how do you know we aren't the super somethings, that the somethings evolved into?

[waterwater]

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its not my view its the evolutry theroy

[Cello Man]

We use to be monkeys and we evolved into humans.

(1) No, we evolved from apes. There's a difference. However apes and monkeys do share a common ancestor.

We help each other, but there is evil in the world…is just like a monkey not agreeing with anthor monkey.
There is talent like a monkey who swing from branches really well or a monkey who will never be able to climb or a monkey that has work hard and now to swing from branches as well as the talented monkey.
Like clever humans, hard working humans disabled humans.

Cest la vie.

Then humans die and that is the end of there life…all the emotion they have in life doesn’t really mean anything.

Why do you think that something finite doesn't mean anything? Beethoven's 9th Symphony lasts about 78 minutes, a paltry blip in time compared to a human lifespan, much less geological or astronomical time. But it still means something.

What is the meaning behind life nothing?

(2) Maybe there is no inherent meaning. But if nothing really matters, then it doesn't matter that nothing matters. :) Enjoy yourself.

Anything strange that happens is a coincidence

Pretty much, yeah. But what's so sad about coincidence?

Psychologists and scientists work to help humans have a better life on earth.

Like monkeys may work together how to get more food from there trainer...

Life seems pointless…even though just like any other human it’s not at the moment.

Life goes on and all. Find something you can do that makes yourself useful, and don't pass up the fun bits of life dwelling on this existential stuff too much. Also see point 2 again.

Of the monkey theory is true why are there still monkeys…why didn’t any other animals evolved and why haven’t humans evolved into super humans?

Again with the monkeys. See point 1 again. Also, evolution is super-duper slow by human timescales. And super humans? Evolution is not goal driven, it adapts organisms to suit their environment through natural selection. We're not going to be able to shoot lasers from our eyes (or whatever super human means to you) unless there is an evolutionary impetus for humans to acquire that ability through natural selection, and even then there has to be a way for it to be biologically feasible.

How was the first ever human made or the first ever animal.

The same way anything changes via evolution. Very slowly.

[Dr Adequate]

Then humans die and that is the end of there life…all the emotion they have in life doesn’t really mean anything. Non sequitur.

Anything strange that happens is a coincidence Bollocks.

Of the monkey theory is true why are there still monkeys… Word for word, you recite the dumbest creationist argument ever devised.

Of course, if you actually wanted to know the answer, you could have googled on the phrase "Why are there still monkeys?"

Here's why. (http://skepticwiki.org/index.php/Why_Are_There_Still_Monkeys%3F)

why didn’t any other animals evolved and why haven’t humans evolved into super humans? They did, we did.

How was the first ever human made or the first ever animal. Evolution, remember?

[qayak]

http://forums.randi.org/imagehosting/thum_1088046ec16f43c639.jpg

We use to be monkeys and we evolved into humans.
We help each other, but there is evil in the world…is just like a monkey not agreeing with anthor monkey.
There is talent like a monkey who swing from branches really well or a monkey who will never be able to climb or a monkey that has work hard and now to swing from branches as well as the talented monkey.
Like clever humans, hard working humans disabled humans.

Then humans die and that is the end of there life…all the emotion they have in life doesn’t really mean anything.
What is the meaning behind life nothing?

Anything strange that happens is a coincidence

Psychologists and scientists work to help humans have a better life on earth.

Like monkeys may work together how to get more food from there trainer...

Life seems pointless…even though just like any other human it’s not at the moment.

Of the monkey theory is true why are there still monkeys…why didn’t any other animals evolved and why haven’t humans evolved into super humans?

How was the first ever human made or the first ever animal.

[Michael C]

We're still evolving.

[qayak]

(1) No, we evolved from apes. There's a difference. However apes and monkeys do share a common ancestor.

Apes are our cousins. We share a common ancestor with them as well as with monkeys. Monkeys are our distant cousins.

Undersecter belongs to a branch of the family tree that is even more distant and the rest of the family has agreed not to mention them in polite company. As one Chimp put it, "They weren't too bright in the first place but then you combine that with all the inbreeding and . . . well, we agreed not to mention it!"

[skeptifem]

evolution is soooooo far from boring.

[Normal Dude]

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its not my view its the evolutry theroy

Dude if you are going to harp about evolution you could at least spell it correctly.

So who's ideas have you been parroting? Because I know you didn't think these up on your own.

Lastly, this is in the wrong forum...?

[qayak]

evolution is soooooo far from boring.

Actually, if everything you learned about evolution came from the dude in your church pulpit telling you what to think, it would be pretty boring! :D

[Miss Anthrope]

Evolutionary biology and psychology explains so much about the world. Just these two branches of the tree are so incredibly fascination...and shed so much light on the world.

Answers to questions like "Why do people do this?"....REAL ANSWERS.

I know the OP is likely just making a poor, cynical attempt in the name of their faith, but I must say, delving into the scientific world can be breathtaking.

I find the notion of an invisible being allowing children to be raped and murdered depressing. The thought of people dying of ebola is depressing. So is famine and horrendous poverty. How someone can be so arrogant to believe god has chosen them over the people on this planet who are truly suffering is extremely depressing.

[waterwater]

normal dude
i didnt make the evolution theroy up obvsiouly.but i thought up the rest...no i dont say it sounds clever it was a idea.

miss anthrope
dont people blame the devil for evil like rape and murder

[Miss Anthrope]

miss anthrope
dont people blame the devil for evil like rape and murder

Atheists don't.

Do people blame the devil for hiding the shift key and failure to punctuate, I wonder?

[skeptifem]

miss anthrope
dont people blame the devil for evil like rape and murder


ive always thought that 'the devil tempts you!" thing was such ********. its just something to blame all your problems on instead of taking responsibility for them.

[Cuddles]

Of the monkey theory is true why are there still monkeys

There aren't. One day, when you are old enough, your parents will sit you down and have "the conversation", where they will explain that Santa Claus isn't real, the tooth fairy isn't real, and monkeys aren't real. At first, the realisation that you have been lied to all this time may be heartbreaking, but in time you will come to understand that there is an inherent need in the human psyche for myths about obese housebreakers, thieves of human body parts and cute little furry humans with long, wiggly tails.

[JimBenArm]

I'm still a monkey. Wanna see my tail?

[KingMerv00]

Like it or not, reality is the way it is. Wishful thinking won't help.

[Antranik1]

From the way I understood it, undersecter is trying to take the scientific view and not a religious one. That is why he's seeing life as boring, sad and pointless. I didn't think he was pushing on religious beliefs, just more-so realizing that evolution makes a lot of sense and feeling lost about the meaning of life. If I myself didn't have a belief in a spirit and life after death, I wouldn't see the point in living either. In other words suicide should be easy. At least that's how I always thought it would be if I were a strong atheist. But I really doubt that's reality cause I'm sure there's tons of strong atheists and they can't get themselves to kill themselves cause deep-down must have some sort of care for living for some reason. You know, cause survival is just what we tend to do.. all right so i'm rambling however I personally believe in metaphysical stuff deep-down so I'm not suicidal for that reason as well, haha.

[Macoy]

From the way I understood it, undersecter is trying to take the scientific view and not a religious one. That is why he's seeing life as boring, sad and pointless. I didn't think he was pushing on religious beliefs, just more-so realizing that evolution makes a lot of sense and feeling lost about the meaning of life. If I myself didn't have a belief in a spirit and life after death, I wouldn't see the point in living either. In other words suicide should be easy. At least that's how I always thought it would be if I were a strong atheist. But I really doubt that's reality cause I'm sure there's tons of strong atheists and they can't get themselves to kill themselves cause deep-down must have some sort of care for living for some reason. You know, cause survival is just what we tend to do.. all right so i'm rambling however I personally believe in metaphysical stuff deep-down so I'm not suicidal for that reason as well, haha.

Are you seeing life from a religious view?

[Gravy]

We're still evolving.
Evidence to the contrary:

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its not my view its the evolutry theroy

normal dude
i didnt make the evolution theroy up obvsiouly.but i thought up the rest...no i dont say it sounds clever it was a idea.

miss anthrope
dont people blame the devil for evil like rape and murder

[ynot]

Santa Claus isn't real, the tooth fairy isn't real, and monkeys aren't real. .
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!

[Antranik1]

Are you seeing life from a religious view?

I just go by what I've experienced and what feels like truth. I don't follow any religion. Why the question?

[Macoy]

I just go by what I've experienced and what feels like truth. I don't follow any religion. Why the question?

Because you said: "If I myself didn't have a belief in a spirit and life after death, I wouldn't see the point in living either."

This strikes me as a potentially religious view.

[fishbob]

normal dude
i didnt make the evolution theroy up obvsiouly.but i thought up the rest...no i dont say it sounds clever it was a idea.

The gibberish you posted bears very little resemblance to the theory of evolution.

[qayak]

If I myself didn't have a belief in a spirit and life after death, I wouldn't see the point in living either.

One must truly be a pathetic, empty shell of a human being with a pathetic, empty shell of a life in order for an imaginary, hateful and vengeful being to be one's life purpose.

One would hope there were no bridges or tall buildings in the area that such a sorry individual lived.

[waterwater]

From the way I understood it, undersecter is trying to take the scientific view and not a religious one. That is why he's seeing life as boring, sad and pointless. I didn't think he was pushing on religious beliefs, just more-so realizing that evolution makes a lot of sense and feeling lost about the meaning of life. If I myself didn't have a belief in a spirit and life after death, I wouldn't see the point in living either. In other words suicide should be easy. At least that's how I always thought it would be if I were a strong atheist. But I really doubt that's reality cause I'm sure there's tons of strong atheists and they can't get themselves to kill themselves cause deep-down must have some sort of care for living for some reason. You know, cause survival is just what we tend to do.. all right so i'm rambling however I personally believe in metaphysical stuff deep-down so I'm not suicidal for that reason as well, haha.
Thats exactly what i mean...Even though i dont belive in god i still dont want to kill myself.
I would love for there to be a god...or some sort of after life but i think that is very unlikley.

[PogoPedant]

From the way I understood it, undersecter is trying to take the scientific view and not a religious one. That is why he's seeing life as boring, sad and pointless. I didn't think he was pushing on religious beliefs, just more-so realizing that evolution makes a lot of sense and feeling lost about the meaning of life. If I myself didn't have a belief in a spirit and life after death, I wouldn't see the point in living either. In other words suicide should be easy. At least that's how I always thought it would be if I were a strong atheist. But I really doubt that's reality cause I'm sure there's tons of strong atheists and they can't get themselves to kill themselves cause deep-down must have some sort of care for living for some reason. You know, cause survival is just what we tend to do.. all right so i'm rambling however I personally believe in metaphysical stuff deep-down so I'm not suicidal for that reason as well, haha.

If the hundred dollars I hold in my hand are all the money I have, I may as well just set fire to it and never have money at all. But if the hundred dollars I hold in my hand is just a tiny sample of the millions of dollars I have in the bank, then the hundred dollars I hold in my hand are valuable and must be cherished.

Huh?

Enjoy this life now.

[kevsta]

One must truly be a pathetic, empty shell of a human being with a pathetic, empty shell of a life in order for an imaginary, hateful and vengeful being to be one's life purpose.

One would hope there were no bridges or tall buildings in the area that such a sorry individual lived.

but there are so many of them out there, who bizarrely enough dont seem to all throw themselves off of tall things at every opportunity, even though they "know" it will be better in the next place. :boxedin:

[brodski]

There aren't. One day, when you are old enough, your parents will sit you down and have "the conversation", where they will explain that Santa Claus isn't real, the tooth fairy isn't real, and monkeys aren't real. At first, the realisation that you have been lied to all this time may be heartbreaking, but in time you will come to understand that there is an inherent need in the human psyche for myths about obese housebreakers, thieves of human body parts and cute little furry humans with long, wiggly tails.

:D :D nominated.

[Ladewig]

I can't help you with the sad part, but I can help you with the boring part. Go read some science magazines. Amazing research is being done in every field. Every year medical researchers are coming up with new, imaginative ways to fight diseases. Physics researchers are discovering new ways to manipulate substances on the atomic level. Astronomers are seeing things that have never been seen before.

I consider these fields to be orders of magnitude more interesting than stories from scriptures. Every December, hundreds of millions of Christians listen to pastors tell the same story they told last year and the year before. The advent story is kind of exciting the first time one hears, it but after 20, 30 or 40 times, the bloom is off the rose.

[cyborg]

You've realised meaning is synthetic and that your concept of god as the source of meaning is therefore also synthetic.

It may take a little while to absorb that about-face conceptualisation about yourself.

[Dr. Imago]

We use to be monkeys and we evolved into humans.

This statement, by itself, demonstrates that you do not understand the process of evolution. Homo sapiens sapiens never "use to be" monkeys.

-Dr. Imago

[Sleepy]

http://dotsub.com/films/dancemonkeys/index.php?autostart=true&language_setting=none_404

[krazyKemist]

From the way I understood it, undersecter is trying to take the scientific view and not a religious one. That is why he's seeing life as boring, sad and pointless. I didn't think he was pushing on religious beliefs, just more-so realizing that evolution makes a lot of sense and feeling lost about the meaning of life. If I myself didn't have a belief in a spirit and life after death, I wouldn't see the point in living either. In other words suicide should be easy. At least that's how I always thought it would be if I were a strong atheist. But I really doubt that's reality cause I'm sure there's tons of strong atheists and they can't get themselves to kill themselves cause deep-down must have some sort of care for living for some reason. You know, cause survival is just what we tend to do.. all right so i'm rambling however I personally believe in metaphysical stuff deep-down so I'm not suicidal for that reason as well, haha.

Huhhh, you need to believe in the metaphysical to have a reason to live ? :boggled: Funny, I had no idea... Somehow, I must have forgotten to get depressed after I stopped believing these things... Must be from being too impressed with what the universe actually is... Church was utterly boring, the universe, never.

the Kemist

[Jimbo07]

We use to be monkeys and we evolved into humans.

No.

We are apes

Look up taxonomy. Recent genetic information has helped reform our branches of the bush (Wikipedia notes superfamily, subfamily and tribe), but in Family/Genus/Species order, you'll find some variation of

Human: Hominidae/Homo/Sapiens
Apes: Hominidae/Pan/Troglodytes
Gorillas: Hominidae/Gorilla/Gorilla

[qayak]

but there are so many of them out there, who bizarrely enough dont seem to all throw themselves off of tall things at every opportunity, even though they "know" it will be better in the next place. :boxedin:

So, are they believers or closet atheists? Inquirering minds want to know! :D

[qayak]

No.

We are apes

Thank you for correcting me as well. My earlier statement should have been that "OTHER apes are our cousins" not "apes are our cousins."

[Ben Tilly]

evolution is soooooo far from boring.

Indeed. Attempting to achieve evolutionary success can be a lot of fun. :D

[Jimbo07]

Thank you for correcting me as well. My earlier statement should have been that "OTHER apes are our cousins" not "apes are our cousins."

And I read back and have to correct myself.

No.

We are apes

Look up taxonomy. Recent genetic information has helped reform our branches of the bush (Wikipedia notes superfamily, subfamily and tribe), but in Family/Genus/Species order, you'll find some variation of

Human: Hominidae/Homo/Sapiens
Apes: Hominidae/Pan/Troglodytes
Gorillas: Hominidae/Gorilla/Gorilla

I think I meant Chimpanzees (for Troglodytes)...

Biology is my weakest science (i.e. did not study a single biology class at university).

[Ysidro]

First thing to do when dealing with existential dread of atheism is to learn the actual science and not just what you think is science.

Second step is...umm...????

Third step is profit.

[illogical]

welcome to nihilism buddy. and life is too short to listen to eggheads. but you already know that. :-)

[illogical]

But it still means something. [9th symphony]

because it was created by humans.

[UnrepentantSinner]

Actually Humans are fish (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?p=2401135#post2401135). :p